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And how many times we've hoped for that, wholesale changes that never came. Nothing will change. They'll somehow find a way to blame anything but themselves and nothing will change.It's probably better for Pakistan in the long run not to qualify for the next round. The humiliation might provoke changes however unlikely it might seem.
Couple of nice days for Babar fans.
Pakistan lost in both matches but Amir got the blame in 1st one and Imad in 2nd one.
Babar, Rizwan as usual were heroes in the loss.
To be honest, PAK should have won this. PAK won the toss and chased and that was 70 % of the game. I'm surprised India with their geriatric lineup defended 119. Scarcely believable.Brother remember what I told you last game?
No matter how many times you overrate Pakistan by claiming they won't lose to USA ans then prematurely congratulating Pakistan for winning, This team will keep going lower and lower and lower for you.
Bro you said this for USA.To be honest, PAK should have won this. PAK won the toss and chased and that was 70 % of the game. I'm surprised India with their geriatric lineup defended 119. Scarcely believable.
Losing to Ireland will be okay. As they have lost them before as well. But Canada will be tricky. While Pakistan may seem to have good individuals to overcome Canada. Canada will absolutely be charging in and grabbing this win while the team is mentally shot.Canada and Ireland will be licking there lips at the prospect of playing us
Bumrah is exceptional bowler but he bowled those full tosses in crucial moments. i would say usual batters would put them in standsYes bhai chacha is very average but the majority of bumrahs bowling was magnificent he looked the best bowler on display today. Interestingly I didnt realise he hyperextends his bowling arm just like shoaib Akhtar.
Pakistan need to accept this humble pie and rebuild for next World Cup - through honest reflection and hard work .
I honestly think Canada n Ireland could beat this team
If you can be bothered yes, but the old man Iftikhar was probably looking forward to his nightly cocoaBumrah is exceptional bowler but he bowled those full tosses in crucial moments. i would say usual batters would put them in stands
Ireland is the weakest team in the group bro, I have been telling everyone canada beating Ireland is not an upset.Losing to Ireland will be okay. As they have lost them before as well. But Canada will be tricky. While Pakistan may seem to have good individuals to overcome Canada. Canada will absolutely be charging in and grabbing this win while the team is mentally shot.
It's just really tricky. Right now it seems that USA, Canada, Ireland and Pakistan are all very close to each other. USA looks the better of course.Ireland is the weakest team in the group bro, I have been telling everyone canada beating Ireland is not an upset.
Ireland use to be gun because before they were a test nation they benefitted of county, but when they became a test nation, that ended and they lack the infrastructure now. Their gun players that may even represent England at one point are gone and dead in the water.
Their batting maybe > Canada but they don't have any bowlers and unlike Canada and USA they aren't familiar with the conditions. Canada scored 137 in NY against them, Despite it being a minefield pitch, it does not help that they have no one besides mark adair. Azam was slapping them black and blue.
USA > Canada > Ireland as teams currently, Trector is also out of form.
You are right. But both Canada captain and coach seem very dumb to be honest. They played Nikhil Dutta - the worst excuse of a spinner I have ever seen( barely club level) ahead of Junaid Siddique? Had they played Junaid, they could have beaten USA and had a real chance to qualify.Bro you said this for USA.
I have told you, Pakistan will dissappint you, Abhi Canada ko anei do
Canada and USA is debatable because Canada didn't choose the correct squad and didn't read conditions properly, They rectified this with Ireland choosing the correct bowlers.It's just really tricky. Right now it seems that USA, Canada, Ireland and Pakistan are all very close to each other. USA looks the better of course.
Hard for me to call a clear winner between Pakistan and Canada game.
For me turning point was Rizwan Saab defended against everyone and tried to attack Bumrah first ball when he was brought back to take wicket of rizwan.Couple of nice days for Babar fans.
Pakistan lost in both matches but Amir got the blame in 1st one and Imad in 2nd one.
Babar, Rizwan as usual were heroes in the loss.
And these are supposed to be your best batters. Usman was the worst pick up ever. Based on 4 psl performances.For me turning point was Rizwan Saab defended against everyone and tried to attack Bumrah first ball when he was brought back to take wicket of rizwan.
Has to be Rizwan to bat moree than 25 balls and have a strike rate off less than 100 is unforgivableIfti for me was the wost. Messed up in the field (again) and missed 3/4 full tosses (out of which, one was a free-hit). For a "finnisher" that's not a great look
There was a time once when we REALLY understood how to close a game out. Whether that was when we are bowling or chasing.
The game has moved on granted...but that knowledge and understanding of how to read situations being lost is inexcusable.
That could happen bhai but I am old enough to remember when we were a really great side, so I try n remain optimistic on the art of the possible.You can try to rebuild for the next 10 WCs, with these clowns it will always be the same, high time people need to start watching other sports, these clowns will always let you down.
Great victory for Indians but it's time to say good bye to Yadav. Dubey looks very dubious as well. Indian middle order looks very brittle with these two
That’s your comeback having already ordered a massive cake to celebrate tonight in the 15th over of the first innings?You had full faith in Imad Wasim screwing it up for Pakistan. I’m impressed with your faith in his mediocrity.
I don’t need any comebacks. Imad Wasim fans are cooked for life.That’s your comeback having already ordered a massive cake to celebrate tonight in the 15th over of the first innings?
I think dube has the edge of bowling too so right call i guessIndia should've selected Rinku over Dube.
Acha? Babar’s PZ fans are not?I don’t need any comebacks. Imad Wasim fans are cooked for life.
I'm pretty sure the dumb heads were looking at Dubey's slow medium pace as an asset. Rinku could have been an X factor along with PantIndia should've selected Rinku over Dube.
Babar Azam is Pakistan’s captain and will remain so.Acha? Babar’s PZ fans are not?
How does that change the fact that you were celebrating in the 15th over of the first innings?Babar Azam is Pakistan’s captain and will remain so.
Imad “Garbage” Wasim will be back in the trash can after this World Cup.
My fault that I forgot how crap Imad is.How does that change the fact that you were celebrating in the 15th over of the first innings?
I bet I am older than you , I was a teenager when we were simultaneously World champions of 4 sports. It's good to be optimistic but got to live in real world as well.That could happen bhai but I am old enough to remember when we were a really great side, so I try n remain optimistic on the art of the possible.
You thought Babar and Rizwan will stay and chase this til the 20th over? You didn’t even think Imad would be needed. That’s what you said tagging me and some other guys. Now you have found a scapegoat in Imad?My fault that I forgot how crap Imad is.
I actually thought he will be able to see off India when all he had to is rotate the strike with the RRR around the 6 mark.
But I give credit it to you for knowing that Imad was going to bottle this. You had great faith in his mediocrity.
Lol Rizwan Babar Imad all were terrible today..My fault that I forgot how crap Imad is.
I actually thought he will be able to see off India when all he had to is rotate the strike with the RRR around the 6 mark.
But I give credit it to you for knowing that Imad was going to bottle this. You had great faith in his mediocrity.
to be fair, when Imad failed to play Axar nad played 5 dots on the trot, our @Rana bhai had to quickly jump in and say that well bowled Axar. Even though Axar was not spinning the ball, but Rana was pretending as if Axar was bowling like Shane Warne. Infact, @Rana and the highfive gang went to the extent by saying only chance Pakistan has of winning this if IMad stays till the end. ANd imad stoof there till the end and we lost.My fault that I forgot how crap Imad is.
I actually thought he will be able to see off India when all he had to is rotate the strike with the RRR around the 6 mark.
But I give credit it to you for knowing that Imad was going to bottle this. You had great faith in his mediocrity.
Bumrah is a sardar too..Don't worry Pakistan fans sardarji is bowler
That’s your comeback having already ordered a massive cake to celebrate tonight in the 15th over of the first innings?
I don’t need to find a scapegoat, Imad presented himself as one like a prostitute on the streets of Amsterdam.You thought Babar and Rizwan will stay and chase this til the 20th over? You didn’t even think Imad would be needed. That’s what you said tagging me and some other guys. Now you have found a scapegoat in Imad?
No one panicked, you went personal and to s new low today.to be fair, when Imad failed to play Axar nad played 5 dots on the trot, our @Rana bhai had to quickly jump in and say that well bowled Axar. Even though Axar was not spinning the ball, but Rana was pretending as if Axar was bowling like Shane Warne. Infact, @Rana and the highfive gang went to the extent by saying only chance Pakistan has of winning this if IMad stays till the end. ANd imad stoof there till the end and we lost.
After that the highfive gang just panicked and started to spam rizwan rizwan rizwan in everythread.
Has their ever been a single conversation where you haven't gotten personal or made vulgar remarks?I don’t need to find a scapegoat, Imad presented himself as one like a prostitute on the streets of Amsterdam.
Imad is cooked for life. Accept it and move on.It's the job of 11 players to win the game.
However, clearly 2 players are hated so they are always at fault for a Pakistani loss.
Funnily enough, the coward who leads those remaining 10 players gets applauded and is considered a world class batsmen even though barring a few knocks, he has NEVER finished a match for Pakistan.
Every batsmen failed today including Rizwan who simply had to nudge to a victory.
But hey, let's blame Imad because I crush on Babar.
you dont want to blame Imad because its easier to blame 11 guys so that your faovurite can get away.It's the job of 11 players to win the game.
However, clearly 2 players are hated so they are always at fault for a Pakistani loss.
Funnily enough, the coward who leads those remaining 10 players gets applauded and is considered a world class batsmen even though barring a few knocks, he has NEVER finished a match for Pakistan.
Every batsmen failed today including Rizwan who simply had to nudge to a victory.
But hey, let's blame Imad because I crush on Babar.
Imad is cooked for life. Accept it and move on.
He did not prove to be the great winner as you proudly called him not so long ago.
but but but imad hit boundaries against Afhganistan and is a match winnerImad is cooked for life. Accept it and move on.
He did not prove to be the great winner as you proudly called him not so long ago.
just like how rizwan couldn't connect pies and clear boundaries when only 2 fielders were outside the 30 yard circleA 15 year old here thinks that a guy who couldnt spin the ball and was bowling simple straight balls with none of them staying low, as very difficult balls to justify his favorites 65% striker rate.
The lengths to some fans will go...... A spinner with no spin balls a straight delivery, "omg wow unplayable stuff".
its like they think we are not watching the game.
Absolute trash the shot Rizwan got out for, he clearly didn’t even want to see where Bumrah was bowling.just like how rizwan couldn't connect pies and clear boundaries when only 2 fielders were outside the 30 yard circle
you dont want to blame Imad because its easier to blame 11 guys so that your faovurite can get away.
120 was a score that even if hte RR went to 8, it was winnable to matter what. You only need 1 good over of 15-20 runs and the game was ours.
When Rizwan got out, Imad came in at no.5 and 45 was needed off 45. It was run a ball. What the top 4 had done till than was irrelevent, because they had survived out there and played what they could. It was the lower orders job to strike the ball.
Had imad pulled off a victory, this 11 men bull crap would never be posted here, than it would had been all Imad this and Imad that.
Anyways, Imad was facing Axar who was bowling pies. No his ball did not stay low, it stayed at a normal height that a good striker would be able to hit. Imad not only missed 5 shots, he also didnt want to take runs as he was more interested in being the glory boy. When Shaheen came into bat, Shaheen ran for it and he was look at Imad that why Imad is not running to the other end, and it was because Imad wanted to take all the glory by hogging the strike.
Babar gets his fair share of blame for his poor captaincy, but you still cannot accept that Imad is rubbish and there was a reason why he was kicked out of the team. Iftikhar is also to be blamed aswell as Shadab because these 3 along with Usman did nothing.
how dare you say that apparently he's better than kohli smith maxwell root butler rohit etc...Absolute trash the shot Rizwan got out for, he clearly didn’t even want to see where Bumrah was bowling.
That’s how club level batsmen play against medium pacers.
when we started the required run rate was 5 an over when imad come in the required rate was nearly touching 7 an overyou dont want to blame Imad because its easier to blame 11 guys so that your faovurite can get away.
120 was a score that even if hte RR went to 8, it was winnable to matter what. You only need 1 good over of 15-20 runs and the game was ours.
When Rizwan got out, Imad came in at no.5 and 45 was needed off 45. It was run a ball. What the top 4 had done till than was irrelevent, because they had survived out there and played what they could. It was the lower orders job to strike the ball.
Had imad pulled off a victory, this 11 men bull crap would never be posted here, than it would had been all Imad this and Imad that.
Anyways, Imad was facing Axar who was bowling pies. No his ball did not stay low, it stayed at a normal height that a good striker would be able to hit. Imad not only missed 5 shots, he also didnt want to take runs as he was more interested in being the glory boy. When Shaheen came into bat, Shaheen ran for it and he was look at Imad that why Imad is not running to the other end, and it was because Imad wanted to take all the glory by hogging the strike.
Babar gets his fair share of blame for his poor captaincy, but you still cannot accept that Imad is rubbish and there was a reason why he was kicked out of the team. Iftikhar is also to be blamed aswell as Shadab because these 3 along with Usman did nothing.
Make one comment against Misbah, I dare you. Once you start doing so, maybe people will follow suit. Until then stay still.you dont want to blame Imad because its easier to blame 11 guys so that your faovurite can get away.
120 was a score that even if hte RR went to 8, it was winnable to matter what. You only need 1 good over of 15-20 runs and the game was ours.
When Rizwan got out, Imad came in at no.5 and 45 was needed off 45. It was run a ball. What the top 4 had done till than was irrelevent, because they had survived out there and played what they could. It was the lower orders job to strike the ball.
Had imad pulled off a victory, this 11 men bull crap would never be posted here, than it would had been all Imad this and Imad that.
Anyways, Imad was facing Axar who was bowling pies. No his ball did not stay low, it stayed at a normal height that a good striker would be able to hit. Imad not only missed 5 shots, he also didnt want to take runs as he was more interested in being the glory boy. When Shaheen came into bat, Shaheen ran for it and he was look at Imad that why Imad is not running to the other end, and it was because Imad wanted to take all the glory by hogging the strike.
Babar gets his fair share of blame for his poor captaincy, but you still cannot accept that Imad is rubbish and there was a reason why he was kicked out of the team. Iftikhar is also to be blamed aswell as Shadab because these 3 along with Usman did nothing.
Babar gets his fair share of criticism for his poor captaincy. Infact, i was against his captiancy since 2021, but the likes of @Rana used to bash me that because Misbah didnt like his captaincy thats why i have issues with it, and today same rana whines about babar.This whataboutism isn't helping.
You yourself said Ifti, Shadab and Usman did nothing.
I already said Imad played a poor knock.
I don't defend poor performances.
However, there is an increasing trend on this forum to ignore Babar and Rizwan and just focus on players you hate and try to blame every loss on them.
I won't accept this discrimination.
yeah that he has some more friends to be kicked out from the team along with him lolFinally Azam Khan felt very happy
At least we have an environment that propels several of each to represent us in each sphere....India's strike bowlers are a mullah and a sardar? Talk about ready made scapegoats lol
Azam will get kicked out forever after this cup, that's a givenyeah that he has some more friends to be kicked out from the team along with him lol
1. RizwanHere is my one cent suggestion:
Drop these from your team: ifti Chacha, shadab, usman Khan. These guy are not made for intl cricket.
Replace above with: Abdullah shafiq, Salman ali, Saud Shakeel.
Pakistan bowling is OK.