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India (148/5) defeat Pakistan (147) by 5 wickets in the 2nd Match of the ACC Asia Cup

Geil said:
I think its more with being aware and sharp on the field and making the right decisions on the field and making a good plan before the game, I dont see that with PAK team,

Pak has good players but they are not guided rightly by whoever takes those decisions be it coach, captain
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If you are indian fan , you can expect logical and well thought out decisions.

But with Pakistan it is simply doesnt exist ever..
 
Geil said:
I feel that was very smart by India by not bein flashy and gifting wickets like how Pak did at the end, very smartly done by India by taking it till the end and winning it.

I dont expect such thing from Pak, they could be incredible individual performance but not smart play from PAK
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India played well. Congrats to Pandya for clever and gutsy performance.
Team batting second always has that advantage chasing a below par total vs team setting the score. This is specially true in Dubai where team batting 2nd has a huge advantage as seen recently in the T20 World Cup played here where chasing team won all the games.
Pak team was shooting for 170+ looking at this batting Indian line up. I guess Pak team should have reassessed par total given there was help in the wicket and stayed in the game to get to 160ish. That would have been winning score, but Pak panicked there a bit.
Also Pak bowlers cramped more than Indian bowlers, which for me was the difference.
Full respect to Pandya/Jadeja but fully fit Naseem and Haris could have been a diff story? But is it down to diff in fitness? Can we assume that?
Curious to know if anyone has a medical POV? Not sure if it is down to fitness or it is down to weather getting more humid as the day went on. Rauf, Naseem seem pretty fit, and fitter than Arshdeep and Bhuvi. But that’s obviously looking fitter on face value.
 
ask_analyse_act said:
If you are indian fan , you can expect logical and well thought out decisions.

But with Pakistan it is simply doesnt exist ever..
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Yes, that is what made my hopes high that Ind is going to chase this, if it was any other top team other than Pak then i wouldn't have had my hopes high
 
Zerotohero said:
Rahul is the weakest link, either better to make pant open and retain same batting order. Hooda to replace avesh Khan. It will add more depth to batting and he can bowl a few overs
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One bad match for Rahul and he is the weakest link lol? Pant with a strike rate of 125 should open? Waah bhai Zerotozero :facepalm :inti
 
Zerotohero said:
Rahul is the weakest link, either better to make pant open and retain same batting order. Hooda to replace avesh Khan. It will add more depth to batting and he can bowl a few overs
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Ashwin will be picked over Avesh I think. There is enough for spinners in UAE.
 
Great match and also a great thread with posters we dont see regularly here. Really enjoyed the match and emotions with the fellow posters on this thread. If we win against Hong Kong, will be back here to enjoy it with you guys.

I dont watch regular cricket matches and only limted myself to ICC tournaments or Pak vs India
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
Naseem got cramps and I think Rauf as well else they could have closed the game. Awesome effort though from this young attack. Congratulations Pakistan really played well. Tough luck. I am happy for India win but that bowling effort was spectacular and only Pakistan pacers can produce such magic
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Sounds like poor fitness more than anything.
This is their limitations when you go all out like morons in the opening 2 overs. Won't work every time.
 
Geil said:
10 runs of the last over of Dahani, 11 runs in the last over by Naseem and 14 runs in the last over of Rauf, smart batting by India at the end there, Pak bowlers always going to leak runs at he end, when the heat is on, Pakk fails
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Only Rauf bowled badly and even he wasn't fully fit.

Naseem was bowling on one leg and still proved to be a handful.

Dahani was good too except couple of wides.

Can't blame the bowlers today, 147 was never enough. Pakistan made a match out of nothing and probably could've even won it if the bowlers were fully fit in the end.

I was expecting a demoralised bowling performance from Pakistan after an underwhelming batting inngs....something similar to how India bowled in that 152/0 game....so it was pleasant to see the bowlers fight it out till the end, especially in the absence of Shaheen.
 
Farabi said:
India played well. Congrats to Pandya for clever and gutsy performance.
Team batting second always has that advantage chasing a below par total vs team setting the score. This is specially true in Dubai where team batting 2nd has a huge advantage as seen recently in the T20 World Cup played here where chasing team won all the games.
Pak team was shooting for 170+ looking at this batting Indian line up. I guess Pak team should have reassessed par total given there was help in the wicket and stayed in the game to get to 160ish. That would have been winning score, but Pak panicked there a bit.
Also Pak bowlers cramped more than Indian bowlers, which for me was the difference.
Full respect to Pandya/Jadeja but fully fit Naseem and Haris could have been a diff story? But is it down to diff in fitness? Can we assume that?
Curious to know if anyone has a medical POV? Not sure if it is down to fitness or it is down to weather getting more humid as the day went on. Rauf, Naseem seem pretty fit, and fitter than Arshdeep and Bhuvi. But that’s obviously looking fitter on face value.
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No they are just physically weak and unfit. That's why they cramped.
 
Moeey said:
Sounds like poor fitness more than anything.
This is their limitations when you go all out like morons in the opening 2 overs. Won't work every time.
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It's not poor fitness....its August-end in UAE.

There's a reason that the FIFA WC in Qatar is being held in Nov-Dec and not the traditional June-July
 
Very entertaining match . I thoroughly enjoyed a lot. Clear difference is Hardik Pandya. He is different class. Barring Pandya almost all the batsmen from both the sides struggled to score runs in this tough pitch. Almost Two Evenly matched sides . Indian have slightly edged due to allround depth of Pandya . Not easy to beat India when they r chasing. They r a great chasing side. Pakistan of late have also become a good chasing side but less experienced than India. Looking forward to super 4 contest again between these 2 sides
 
There is no place for KL Rahul as opener in T20Is especially in high profile tournament games. If you have to play him then his spot is only in middle order.

Next game would be vs weak opponent so maybe persist with KL but I would want a change in strategy. Go with Rohit and Kohli at the top, Kohli is best in powerplays vs pace( doesn't matter even if it is 140+). SKY at 3 can change games at that position, then a left hander Pant at 4, Pandya at 5 and Jadeja at 6. DK to play as finisher at 7.

Also bring Ashwin instead of Avesh. There is something in it for spinners and Ashwin has improved his hitting too. Unfortunately no place for Rahul especially as opener, maybe play him in middle order of you want to stick with him.
 
For me the biggest takeaway was the difference in the fitness level between the two teams. A 19 year old cramping in his debut match is not done, should have better fitness levels than that. Plus not having a 6th bowler by pakistan was a mistake.

Nonetheless a great game of cricket. India had the advantage of knowing the target, so they could pace their innings better. Would be an interesting match in the finals.
 
Ashmal said:
It's not poor fitness....its August-end in UAE.

There's a reason that the FIFA WC in Qatar is being held in Nov-Dec and not the traditional June-July
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Then why dint Indian players go down. It is poor fitness.
 
Congrats India on this win and Congrats to Pak to taking this match to the last over inspite of not putting up a big score .
 
Moeey said:
Then why dint Indian players go down. It is poor fitness.
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It got more humid in the evening.

Also, Indian bowlers playing today were not express fast bowlers....the likes of Naseem and Rauf have more demanding actions and put more strain on their bodies than Bhuvneshwar & Arshdeep
 
Ashmal said:
It got more humid in the evening.

Also, Indian bowlers playing today were not express fast bowlers....the likes of Naseem and Rauf have more demanding actions and put more strain on their bodies than Bhuvneshwar & Arshdeep
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Hardik pandya bowled 140 plus regularly and with bounce too. Better than all Pakistani bowlers.
 
Moeey said:
Hardik pandya bowled 140 plus regularly and with bounce too. Better than all Pakistani bowlers.
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Rauf and Naseem were comfortably faster.
It is more humid in the night which could have been at play there
 
Match was turned in favor of India when Jadu hit 6 off Naseem.

Those 2 balls should have been given to Khushdil, he wouldn't have gone for six I think.
 
I think they lost the game becouse they gave away to many extras and to many missfields and Rauf over was poor.However good to see the young bowlers giving thier 100%.
 
Maliq_Mudasir said:
Match was turned in favor of India when Jadu hit 6 off Naseem.

Those 2 balls should have been given to Khushdil, he wouldn't have gone for six I think.
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Yeah and Naseem's expressions told the whole story. He was feeling helpless because he had to bowl, any other match he would have not let him score a six off his bowling. Great find for Pakistan. :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Yeah and Naseem's expressions told the whole story. He was feeling helpless because he had to bowl, any other match he would have not let him score a six off his bowling. Great find for Pakistan. :inti
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He even bowled 4 dots in that over, bowling literally on one leg.
 
shamaan said:
Avesh bowled 2 overs not 4.
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And had an economy of 9.5. Avesh also bowled against the weakest batting line up in Pakistan's T20I ever. Haris on the other hand was bowling against the star studded batting line up of India and conceeded 8.8 rpo still even after getting cramps.

Now you know why I was saying that this Pak team will lose to India? Your batting is pretty weak and you were missing Shaheen. You still made a match out of it though. :inti
 
Moeey said:
Hardik pandya bowled 140 plus regularly and with bounce too. Better than all Pakistani bowlers.
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Credit to Pandya for that.

But even he doesn't have the best fitness record and has been unfit for almost half his career so far.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Yeah and Naseem's expressions told the whole story. He was feeling helpless because he had to bowl, any other match he would have not let him score a six off his bowling. Great find for Pakistan. :inti
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Yes because he has poor fitness. Not the first time he has pulled something. That too at 20 years age. Very poor fitness level. Don't see any future unless he really gets strong and fitter.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
And had an economy of 9.5. Avesh also bowled against the weakest batting line up in Pakistan's T20I ever. Haris on the other hand was bowling against the star studded batting line up of India and conceeded 8.8 rpo still even after getting cramps.

Now you know why I was saying that this Pak team will lose to India? Your batting is pretty weak and you were missing Shaheen. You still made a match out of it though. :inti
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Indian batting is even worse than Pakistan. Stop overrating Indian batsmen rofl.

Rohit is no spring chicken. He is well past it.
Kohli is washed up has been.
KL rahul is a fraud as an opener. He recently failed vs Zimbabwe of all teams. He is a middle order bat at best.

This is indias worst batting unit in their hisotry. Calling this joke of a batting unit star studded to make your bowlers look good is weak buddy. Weak attempt.
 
Great match that could have gone any way. No problem seeing India win when we dropped a catch and had our misfields again. 9/10 times the batting team will get the runs when they have a good batsman at the crease in the end overs. Hardik won it for them today. Although I do not believe that the Indian batting is that much better then ours only that today one of their top boys clicked.
 
Moeey said:
Indian batting is even worse than Pakistan. Stop overrating Indian batsmen rofl.

Rohit is no spring chicken. He is well past it.
Kohli is washed up has been.
KL rahul is a fraud as an opener. He recently failed vs Zimbabwe of all teams. He is a middle order bat at best.

This is indias worst batting unit in their hisotry. Calling this joke of a batting unit star studded to make your bowlers look good is weak buddy. Weak attempt.
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According to you
Rohit
Rahul
Kohli
Sky
Pandya
Karthik
Jaddu

are worse than

Babar
Rizwan
Zaman
Iftikhar
Khushdil
Shadab
Asif Ali

:91: :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
And had an economy of 9.5. Avesh also bowled against the weakest batting line up in Pakistan's T20I ever. Haris on the other hand was bowling against the star studded batting line up of India and conceeded 8.8 rpo still even after getting cramps.

Now you know why I was saying that this Pak team will lose to India? Your batting is pretty weak and you were missing Shaheen. You still made a match out of it though. :inti
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Rauf over stil cost Pakistan thou.
 
Why did Babar gave last over to a spinner? Not that I am complaining but looks like bad captaincy.
 
Rajdeep said:
Why did Babar gave last over to a spinner? Not that I am complaining but looks like bad captaincy.
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it was bad captaincy. they were either saving him for Karthik or didnt want to risk him against Pandya as Pandya can strike spinners very well.

If they wanted to save a spinner, Shadab would had been the better option. But pacers should bowl the last few overs
 
Congratulations to India. Deserved to win the game on balance.

A little disappointed in our fielding. Also, three players getting cramp is a bit much. Naseem Shah was outstanding.

Plenty of room for improvement but time to get it.
 
Rajdeep said:
Why did Babar gave last over to a spinner? Not that I am complaining but looks like bad captaincy.
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All the commentary panel was in agreement with the call of taking it deep. It would have worked if Pakistan had dismissed Pandya before 20th over.
 
Sending Jadeja at 4 was a master stroke

He caused at least 10 runs through extras and he also nullified the threat of the left arm spinner
 
I think the the heat humidity increasing and the fact our bowlers are faster contributed to the loss congrats to India it was a close match and they won fair and square. Maybe in future we should only go 2 pacers and bring in qadir because this wicket and humidity gonna be hard for fast bowlers and especially pakistan is the only side with express pace in Asia so we should go with spinner route
 
Also I think no azam khan or sharjeel is missing a trick esp azam khan because even Rizwan was struggling let some runs go that costed us the match as well
 
Babar as captain needs to learn to think on his feet rather than going in with a set formula.

When India sent Jadeja up the order, Babar should have given 1-2 overs to Iftikhar for his off spin.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
According to you
Rohit
Rahul
Kohli
Sky
Pandya
Karthik
Jaddu

are worse than

Babar
Rizwan
Zaman
Iftikhar
Khushdil
Shadab
Asif Ali

:91: :inti
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Rohit is 34 and washed up
Kohli is finished and is no longer a proper batsman
Rahul is mentally weak and a vastly overrated player
Sky? What has he done vs any quality attack?
Pandya is class. Ok one good player
Karthik is pushing close to 40 and is washed up. Has been
Jaddu is good and he is 34 himself.

So 2 players. 3 if u had pant.

Pakistan has much better batting and they also bat deeper.
 
Hardik pandya is the best all-rounder the game has ever seen after Jacques Kallis.
 
Major said:
it was bad captaincy. they were either saving him for Karthik or didnt want to risk him against Pandya as Pandya can strike spinners very well.

If they wanted to save a spinner, Shadab would had been the better option. But pacers should bowl the last few overs
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The reason was Jadeja. Left arm spinner bowling into a leftie batsman is not a good strategy when the leftie was sent for quick runs. It's still a. Wrong strategy to keep him until 20th
 
Ashmal said:
It got more humid in the evening.

Also, Indian bowlers playing today were not express fast bowlers....the likes of Naseem and Rauf have more demanding actions and put more strain on their bodies than Bhuvneshwar & Arshdeep
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With humidity expected to increase during the 2nd innings, he should have been pulled out for a few overs, rested and should have been hydrated. He is not a clutch fielder anyways so getting him off should have been fine. Yes, fitness does have some part to play in this. Naseem is too young and too early in his career to be going down with cramps. It was also stupid for the team mgmt to continue with him when he was in obvious pain
 
Ab Fan said:
That over will decide the game!
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19.4 Mohammad Nawaz to Hardik Pandya, SIX, Hardik Pandya - swag, nonchalance and the finishing punch! Cool as a cucumber, sits back and smashes this quicker delivery over long-on for a flat maximum. Cracking pull shot and India have sealed a nervy thriller!
 
Pandya will not perform like this in every match

India vs Pakistan next Sunday

Who will be the man the match let’s see
 
It was a good match but a pretty scratchy performance from India. After 128/9 letting them get away with 20 more runs and then crawling to the target doesn’t instill any confidence. I will take the win but hope they do better
 
Ami said:
Pakistan will lose next game too...but will beat India in the final.
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Which Asia Cup are you watching than the rest of us, lol? There is only 2 games for each team in the first round before semi-final.

If Pak looses the next game, it's pack your bags up and go home. But it's against Hong Kong so highly unlikely
 
Dear Pakistan Your quota of Winning Against India Once in a 4 year was already over last year,
2014 Asia cup
2017 Champion trophy
2021 World T20

😂😂
 
India-Pakistan combined T20 all time XI after today's match:-

Rohit
Babar
Kohli
Yuvraj
Dhoni(c/wkt)
Pandya
Afridi
Harbhajan
Amir
Gul
Bumrah

India have won more T20s so India will have more players no questions as far as that is concerned.
 
Well anyway, it was good game overall, typical pak player blunders that could have altered the game. The top order all getting out on bouncers was painful to watch. No one really set in and carried the team, heavy reliance on Barbar which was clearly evident today. The blinder of an innings from Dhani brought some life back into the game. To me, the play that set the tone of the game was kholis dropped catch. Getting 2 top players out in one over would have had a huge psychological impact on the Indian batting lineup. But watching fakhar fumble that catch made it very clear that it just wasn't Pakistans day today.

Still, the bowlers bowled extremely well. Naseem shah is my favorite bowler right now lol. Debut game and that too against India and he didn't show an ounce of pressure. He will be the one to watch in the world cup. I have high expectations from him.
 
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India's Top 3 struggling for form and yet winning the match; Once these guys are in form, it's curtains for the opposition
 
Great game. Thrilled to see us finally prevailing after all that harakiri by our top order for the umpteenth time.
 
Kind of weird that MeninG edited my post. Reminded me why i stopped coming here. Anyway, good luck with your website. Can't deal with the excessive censorship for no reason whatsoever. This post will get deleted too but whatever ✌️
 
TheNeutralist said:
India's Top 3 struggling for form and yet winning the match; Once these guys are in form, it's curtains for the opposition
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They aren't coming back to form especially Rahul and Kohli, the latter was done at least 2 years back and is just playing because Indian selectors don't have guts to drop him.

Rahul, he is so selfish and timid, i don't who in their right mind can choose someone like him for a pressure game like India-Pakistan game.
 
Babar Presser:


On Pandya:

"He did very well in bowling and in batting as he finished off the game was great. According to me, he is a very good all-rounder," said Babar Azam said in a post-match press conference.

"Our only game plan was to take the game as deep as possible. Naseem Shah bowled very well and took crucial wickets for the team. Unfortunately, we couldn't finish but I think Nawaz should be given credit for performing well in the pressure game. The shortfall remained with our partnership. The toss doesn't matter, the team's efforts matter. And my team performed very well. It was a big match for Naseem Shah but still, he did very well. It was his confidence, the way he has shown his progress"
 
Well bowled Pakistani pacers, especially Naseem. But what shocking fitness levels from them!
 
What a great game Pandya had! Don't know about rest of the world, but he is our MVP in T20s by far.

Only if we could have a similar player in our test setup too!
 
Ab Fan said:
India-Pakistan combined T20 all time XI after today's match:-

Rohit
Babar
Kohli
Yuvraj
Dhoni(c/wkt)
Pandya
Afridi
Harbhajan
Amir
Gul
Bumrah

India have won more T20s so India will have more players no questions as far as that is concerned.
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Bhuvi did better than Bumrah against Pakistan in every format. Also replace Bhajji with Ashwin.
 
This is my opinion too. Rahul should be done no place for him if he cannot play zimbos he will never play with Pakistan. Be gone rahul


Ab Fan said:
There is no place for KL Rahul as opener in T20Is especially in high profile tournament games. If you have to play him then his spot is only in middle order.

Next game would be vs weak opponent so maybe persist with KL but I would want a change in strategy. Go with Rohit and Kohli at the top, Kohli is best in powerplays vs pace( doesn't matter even if it is 140+). SKY at 3 can change games at that position, then a left hander Pant at 4, Pandya at 5 and Jadeja at 6. DK to play as finisher at 7.

Also bring Ashwin instead of Avesh. There is something in it for spinners and Ashwin has improved his hitting too. Unfortunately no place for Rahul especially as opener, maybe play him in middle order of you want to stick with him.
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