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India (150 & 487/6d) beat Australia (104 & 238) by 295 runs in the 1st Test of Border-Gavaskar Trophy 2024-25

SpiritOf1903 said:
seems like arm has to be at a right angle to draw suspicion

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If that's not chucking, then whst is. That elbow bend is beyond 10-15 degrees.
 
So Aussies are trying to play with Bumrah's psyche now as they obviously see him as a huge threat.

Not happening mate
 
Champ_Pal said:
-> Has the mind of a newly born Giraffe.
-> Heart of a Kitten
-> Self belief of a deer caught in Tiger's jaws.

The man is supremely talented. He is his own enemy. He has no one to blame but himself. You can see his attitude in IPL too. Too much negativity in his approach and shuts down the shop if a couple of wickets falls around him.
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If there was one word in the dictionary that I would like to erase, it is the word “talent”

A person is only as valuable as their output
 
Ahmed216 said:
So Aussies are trying to play with Bumrah's psyche now as they obviously see him as a huge threat.

Not happening mate
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Have you seen the Cummins celebration after pant wicket? They are rates pant ,Bumrah and virat ( Not current form) very very high
 
At the end of the day batting is important. That is what let us down against NZ not to mention Rohit dropped 6 catches.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
If that's not chucking, then whst is. That elbow bend is beyond 10-15 degrees.
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He can bend 90° backward if he can, thats and thats not chucking..

In a report by scientists commissioned by the ICC it was shown that Pakistani bowler Shoaib Akhtar and Indian bowler R. P. Singh were seen to extend their elbow joints by a negative angle with respect to the upper arm. This phenomenon, also known as hyperextension, can give the illusion of throwing. In the report it was seen that R. P. Singh maintained this negative angle throughout his delivery stride, while Akhtar sometimes bowled a quicker delivery by flexing this hyperextension. These actions are not considered to be chucking as they are due to the distinctive architecture of their elbows, possibly a congenital condition. Since these cricketers have no control over this hyperextension, any degree of hyperextension (past zero) is not included in the 15-degree extension tolerance threshold.

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Smbhayi said:
He can bend 90° backward if he can, thats and thats not chucking..

In a report by scientists commissioned by the ICC it was shown that Pakistani bowler Shoaib Akhtar and Indian bowler R. P. Singh were seen to extend their elbow joints by a negative angle with respect to the upper arm. This phenomenon, also known as hyperextension, can give the illusion of throwing. In the report it was seen that R. P. Singh maintained this negative angle throughout his delivery stride, while Akhtar sometimes bowled a quicker delivery by flexing this hyperextension. These actions are not considered to be chucking as they are due to the distinctive architecture of their elbows, possibly a congenital condition. Since these cricketers have no control over this hyperextension, any degree of hyperextension (past zero) is not included in the 15-degree extension tolerance threshold.

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It will go way over the head.
 
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Smbhayi said:
He can bend 90° backward if he can, thats and thats not chucking..

In a report by scientists commissioned by the ICC it was shown that Pakistani bowler Shoaib Akhtar and Indian bowler R. P. Singh were seen to extend their elbow joints by a negative angle with respect to the upper arm. This phenomenon, also known as hyperextension, can give the illusion of throwing. In the report it was seen that R. P. Singh maintained this negative angle throughout his delivery stride, while Akhtar sometimes bowled a quicker delivery by flexing this hyperextension. These actions are not considered to be chucking as they are due to the distinctive architecture of their elbows, possibly a congenital condition. Since these cricketers have no control over this hyperextension, any degree of hyperextension (past zero) is not included in the 15-degree extension tolerance threshold.

Throwing (cricket) - Wikipedia

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Sad. It was made to accommodate chucking. I put Bumrah in that category.
 
Dropping Ashwin and Jadeja had to be one of the biggest call in Indian history. 800 plus wickets between them. Both can bat..both have done well in OZ. Both in top 10 ranking. Not saying it is a bad move. But one can see transition happening.
 
Why can't Bumrah be tested? That's the question.

Shoaib Akthar got tested. Murali got tested. Why should Indian players get special treatments?
 
sweep_shot said:
Why can't Bumrah be tested? That's the question.

Shoaib Akthar got tested. Murali got tested. Why should Indian players get special treatments?
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Are u saying Indian players have never been tested?

Or are you saying we should test anyone who looks "suspicious from fans point of view"?

Which is it ?
 
sweep_shot said:
Why can't Bumrah be tested? That's the question.

Shoaib Akthar got tested. Murali got tested. Why should Indian players get special treatments?
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Go test him. The umpires have not reported him. Even if you claim the umpires have been bought, why didn't Aleem dar or other pakistani umpires ever reported him?
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Are u saying Indian players have never been tested?

Or are you saying we should test anyone who looks "suspicious from fans point of view"?

Which is it ?
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Which Indian bowler was tested in recent times? I am talking about past 12 years when BCCI had a significant influence.

Bumrah's action is unusual and I feel he should be tested based on some of the footages. Not sure why it is a taboo to question Indian actions. Are they immune from criticism?
 
I have one question though.

How is Bumrah suppose to bowl? His elbow will bend anyway? That's genetic? He can't straighten it by any means?

So you guys just want him banned?

The difference between ajmal and Bumrah is that ajmal was throwing it while Bumrah genuinely can't help it.

I have a family member who's similar to Bumrah. His elbow also usually bends when he raises his arms and pushes it down.
 
sweep_shot said:
Which Indian bowler was tested in recent times? I am talking about past 12 years when BCCI had a significant influence.

Bumrah's action is unusual and I feel he should be tested based on some of the footages. Not sure why it is a taboo to question Indian actions. Are they immune from criticism?
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The Indian domestic infrastructure is actually good. Such players are already corrected at under 19 level or Ranji level and never make it to international cricket
 
mominsaigol said:
I have one question though.

How is Bumrah suppose to bowl? His elbow will bend anyway? That's genetic? He can't straighten it by any means?

So you guys just want him banned?

The difference between ajmal and Bumrah is that ajmal was throwing it while Bumrah genuinely can't help it.

I have a family member who's similar to Bumrah. His elbow also usually bends when he raises his arms and pushes it down.
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There us one female cricketer with similar condition. Don't recall her name.
 
sweep_shot said:
Which Indian bowler was tested in recent times? I am talking about past 12 years when BCCI had a significant influence.

Bumrah's action is unusual and I feel he should be tested based on some of the footages. Not sure why it is a taboo to question Indian actions. Are they immune from criticism?
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Oh you can question all you want.

I was just wondering why he should be tested based on fans opinion or questions.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
There us one female cricketer with similar condition. Don't recall her name.
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These types of people can't really help it.

Like my family member that I'm talking about, Due to his elbow extension, he can put both his arms behind his back and literally bring them over his head to the front.

If I or you did that, we'd break our bones.

That elbow extension is automatic
 
mominsaigol said:
I have one question though.

How is Bumrah suppose to bowl? His elbow will bend anyway? That's genetic? He can't straighten it by any means?

So you guys just want him banned?

The difference between ajmal and Bumrah is that ajmal was throwing it while Bumrah genuinely can't help it.

I have a family member who's similar to Bumrah. His elbow also usually bends when he raises his arms and pushes it down.
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I think people are saying let’s have him tested - no harm in that…..unless of course…
 
sweep_shot said:
Which Indian bowler was tested in recent times? I am talking about past 12 years when BCCI had a significant influence.

Bumrah's action is unusual and I feel he should be tested based on some of the footages. Not sure why it is a taboo to question Indian actions. Are they immune from criticism?
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Please start the petition, I am sure Jay Shah would be influenced by your distrust
 
TheSultan said:
I think people are saying let’s have him tested - no harm in that…..unless of course…
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I wouldn't mind having him tested. But I don't think Bumrah Is a chucker tbh. In the same way I don't really believe murli is a chucker.

I do believe harbajan was a chucker 200% though. The dude use to even wear full sleeves to cover his tracks.
 
Murli, Shoaib and Bumrah are all those who give the illusion of chucking because of hyperextension.

None of them are actual chuckers.
 
mominsaigol said:
These types of people can't really help it.

Like my family member that I'm talking about, Due to his elbow extension, he can put both his arms behind his back and literally bring them over his head to the front.

If I or you did that, we'd break our bones.

That elbow extension is automatic
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I have my thumb like that. It is called hitchhikers thumb. Both my thumbs are abnormally flexible. But it doesn't give me any advantage though. I use it do trick for kids. That's about it
 
sweep_shot said:
Which Indian bowler was tested in recent times? I am talking about past 12 years when BCCI had a significant influence.

Bumrah's action is unusual and I feel he should be tested based on some of the footages. Not sure why it is a taboo to question Indian actions. Are they immune from criticism?
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BCCI even now has added names to the list of bowlers who they think have suspect actions.

Pragyan Ojha was called and his action was modified.

Even 2 days ago, Deepak Hooda, Saurabh Dubey and KC Cariappa were added to a list of bowlers with suspect actions.

So, why should there be any doubt about bowlers playing for India ?
 
mominsaigol said:
I wouldn't mind having him tested. But I don't think Bumrah Is a chucker tbh. In the same way I don't really believe murli is a chucker.

I do believe harbajan was a chucker 200% though. The dude use to even wear full sleeves to cover his tracks.
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Personally speaking and in all honesty, I do think it is hyper extension.

But shoaib had the same problem, but the level of scrutiny was on another level. He was tested multiple times.

Just want an even playing field my brother.

In fact, a lot of Indian posters should be apologising to shoaib. Some of these lowlives still call shoaib a chucker and start crying when Bumrah’s action is questioned.
 
If you look at both units Australian bowlers have 250 plus wickets every one of them. Lyon 500 as well.
 
TheSultan said:
I think people are saying let’s have him tested - no harm in that…..unless of course…
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The people who actually understand cricket like Mr. Aleem Dar and other pakistani umpires didn't ever find anything off.
TheSultan said:
Personally speaking and in all honesty, I do think it is hyper extension.

But shoaib had the same problem, but the level of scrutiny was on another level. He was tested multiple times.

Just want an even playing field my brother.

In fact, a lot of Indian posters should be apologising to shoaib. Some of these lowlives still call shoaib a chucker and start crying when Bumrah’s action is questioned.
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So these accusations are revenge based?
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Dropping Ashwin and Jadeja had to be one of the biggest call in Indian history. 800 plus wickets between them. Both can bat..both have done well in OZ. Both in top 10 ranking. Not saying it is a bad move. But one can see transition happening.
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To be honest the treatment of Ashwin has been disrespectful. Picking Washington over is disrespectful to the experience Ashwin possesses. He’s a top spinner anywhere in the world.
 
Bhaijaan said:
To be honest the treatment of Ashwin has been disrespectful. Picking Washington over is disrespectful to the experience Ashwin possesses. He’s a top spinner anywhere in the world.
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Yea when they dropped sarfrax who atleast made 100 Las series but retained kohli who was a mega failure
 
Only lowlife Indian trolls call Shoaib Akhtar a chucker.

Only lowlife Pakistani and some Bangaladeshi trolls call Bumrah a chucker.

It's 2024. Players and Umpires know how hyper-extension works and how it's biologically impossible to chuck a ball with a slingy action like Bumrah's. Rest all is just time pass on anonymous internet forums for those who have minimal social lives.
 
TheSultan said:
Personally speaking and in all honesty, I do think it is hyper extension.

But shoaib had the same problem, but the level of scrutiny was on another level. He was tested multiple times.

Just want an even playing field my brother.

In fact, a lot of Indian posters should be apologising to shoaib. Some of these lowlives still call shoaib a chucker and start crying when Bumrah’s action is questioned.
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People called sohaib a chucker 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. But I'm not surprised, Indian posters are very hypocritical and I've pointed this out lol.

Sohaib Akhtar is not a chucker by any means.
 
mb3407 said:
The people who actually understand cricket like Mr. Aleem Dar and other pakistani umpires didn't ever find anything off.

So these accusations are revenge based?
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Not at all - it’s consistency. I actually think it is hyper extension. However, we need confirmation. It will actually be better for Bumrah to get cleared otherwise there will always been asterisk to his career. I’m looking out for jasheet
 
FearlessRoar said:
Warning:

Guys, let's stick to the match discussion - please avoid discussing Bumrah's bowling action here
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You should have come a bit earlier buddy. The entire thread is derailed by conspiracy theorists and no one is actually discussing the match.
 
sweep_shot said:
Which Indian bowler was tested in recent times? I am talking about past 12 years when BCCI had a significant influence.

Bumrah's action is unusual and I feel he should be tested based on some of the footages. Not sure why it is a taboo to question Indian actions. Are they immune from criticism?
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Even if he gets tested and passed, you will still cry saying ICC = BCCI.

You guys also questioned Ashwin's action for years when he was bowling in his prime. So basically any good Indian bowler had to be tested to satisfy Pak and BD posters? Waah.
 
Rajdeep said:
You should have come a bit earlier buddy. The entire thread is derailed by conspiracy theorists and no one is actually discussing the match.
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Fox cricket & CSK fans are bringing up bumrah chucking.. tbh all I can see is a bent elbow.
 
Rajdeep said:
I have watched the entire game in Fox...never they ever mentioned him chucking. Stop lieing.

And CSK fans? LOL
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Should I make a thread for Bumrah's action? This thread has been derailed?

It's just I don't want Indian posters to rush me again and accuse me 🤣🤣.

But otherwise I'm willing to make it to get people off over here.
 
Rajdeep said:
I have watched the entire game in Fox...never they ever mentioned him chucking. Stop lieing.

And CSK fans? LOL
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Fox kept showing his action whenever they could.

This ain’t the only cricket forum in the world you know.
 
Can you ever chuck with slingy action? You have to first bend and then straighten the arms to chuck. Meaningless discussion.

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Hope Aus adds some runs to get close to Indian total. Bumrah may be the best pacers by far in world right now, he can't bail Ind out each time. Next 13 Aus wickets need to score runs. India batting is not great and not a settled line up.
 
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Rajdeep said:
Yeah. Remember how we intentionally lost the Eng game in 2019 WC to get Pakistan out of world cup or how Afghanistan never plays against India with full intensity due to IPL?

These guys are masters of conspiracy theories. No wonder state of their respective cricket teams.
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yes , a few deluded fans live by conspiracy ...
 
Rajdeep said:
Even if he gets tested and passed, you will still cry saying ICC = BCCI.

You guys also questioned Ashwin's action for years when he was bowling in his prime. So basically any good Indian bowler had to be tested to satisfy Pak and BD posters? Waah.
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I am still not understanding why Indians respond to possibly the worst contributor of this forum
 
A real enjoyable day of test cricket in regards to bowling on display. The batting was substandard yes.

Instead people are crying over bowling actions etc..
 
SO many bizzarre things happened today. one of the under-rated one was Labu's innings. 2 runs in 52 balls lol
 
jnaveen1980 said:
SO many bizzarre things happened today. one of the under-rated one was Labu's innings. 2 runs in 52 balls lol
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I actually thought we were gonna see some gem of an innings like an irritating 50 of 200 balls that would stretch the game out till day 3, but nope. He had no plan.

One of the worst test innings I've ever watched.
 
mominsaigol said:
I actually thought we were gonna see some gem of an innings like an irritating 50 of 200 balls that would stretch the game out till day 3, but nope. He had no plan.

One of the worst test innings I've ever watched.
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He barely middled a ball in the two-ish hours he hung around. Very strange innings.
 
Red-Indian said:
He barely middled a ball in the two-ish hours he hung around. Very strange innings.
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He caught himself in a situation where he was hoping for bowlers getting tired a bit or ball getting old a bit. He inadvertently left a few, some got beaten, some mistimed. That didn't happen at all. Only reason he survived that long was Bumrah's spell came to an end and other two guys took time to hit their strap.
 
I was listening to an Australian youtube channel where they made a comment about Kohli

"Fadin players are like old houses. You fix one problem you get another problem". Couldn't have said it better. As they said they couldn't recognize the batsman they saw in the 2014 tour. "He looks like Kohli. But he doesn't bat like Kohli". Not sure how many people have to tell him.
 
I only posted pictures of his action as the commentators seemed loathe to directly say it but pictures paint a thousand words
 
SpiritOf1903 said:
I only posted pictures of his action as the commentators seemed loathe to directly say it but pictures paint a thousand words
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They were talking about release point not about action. Imagine weather man is discussing about weather on TV, you say "they are indirectly suggesting the monitor displays has dead pixels".That is how absurd what you say is. Identical release point analysis has been done to death. At no point nobody remotely made a mention of action. Bishop has done similar analysis as well. What do you think they should show to analyze release point? Bumrah's head?
 
Pant's scores in Australia so far


25, 28, 36, 30, 39, 33, 159*, 29, 36, 97, 23, 89*, 37

There is not an innings where he didn't get a start.

8 tests 13 innigns 661 runs 60.09 average so far 70.09 strike rate
 
jnaveen1980 said:
They were talking about release point not about action. Imagine weather man is discussing about weather on TV, you say "they are indirectly suggesting the monitor displays has dead pixels".That is how absurd what you say is. Identical release point analysis has been done to death. At no point nobody remotely made a mention of action. Bishop has done similar analysis as well. What do you think they should show to analyze release point? Bumrah's head?
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The considerable kink in his arm what I noticed
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Good join the 9 other people in the world who have noticed it.
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I know Indians are great statisticians but I assure you, that's not a correct figure.

Be proud of your boy from Lagaan. Why so easily triggered?. I don't go on Indian forums as I'd know what to expect. I have and it's the pits
 
SpiritOf1903 said:
I know Indians are great statisticians but I assure you, that's not a correct figure.

Be proud of your boy from Lagaan. Why so easily triggered?. I don't go on Indian forums as I'd know what to expect. I have and it's the pits
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In a match thread one guy is whining about action when the entire Australian fast bowling fraternity is showering praise on him without any innuendos. Even the hardcore patriotic commentator Mark waugh was stunned by the spell. Between the two who is getting triggered. You or the Actual fans of the team that he bowled against?
 
jnaveen1980 said:
In a match thread one guy is whining about action when the entire Australian fast bowling fraternity is showering praise on him without any innuendos. Even the hardcore patriotic commentator Mark waugh was stunned by the spell. Between the two who is getting triggered. You or the Actual fans of the team that he bowled against?
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Doth protest too much
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Good you are free to complain. It would be nice if you do that in dedicated Bumrah thread instead of match threads? my two cents.
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I posted it in the match thread as it came up on my feed. Indians keep reviving it. Adios.

An Australian victory now would be beautiful to shut Indians and their hubris up once more. Go Aussies!
 
I hope bumrah can wrap up tails very quickly .

But i fear they will add around 50 more runs .
 
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