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India [154/2] defeat Bangladesh [153/6] by 8 wickets to win 2nd T20I; 3-match series level 1-1

Indias ODI unite Rohit Dhawan Kohli Bumrah , at home yeah many but overall just 4 and all of them except Dhawan have failed many times in KO matches..

Looking for some nerves of steel, that can make us win against Non-Asian teams in final..
 
Indias ODI unite Rohit Dhawan Kohli Bumrah , at home yeah many but overall just 4 and all of them except Dhawan have failed many times in KO matches..

Looking for some nerves of steel, that can make us win against Non-Asian teams in final..

Dhawan has a poor record in T20 worldcup.
 
If Aminul Islam turns out to be half as good as Rashid Khan, I'd say that we've finally got a decent leg spinner.
 
Infact Ashwin played in world t20 2016, played in world cup 2015. Played CT 2017. All failed. Ash did well in 2013 CT.

I think you are being a bit harsh on Ashwin. He did well in the 2015 World Cup, even in the SF where Aussies posted 330 he was in a different class. In 2016 WT20 he won us a must win game against Bangladesh where we almost lost, was MOM there but compared to the previous WT20 edition where he was the best obviously he didn't do that well. His only real failure was the 2017 CT, honestly since 2016's ICC rule changes finger spinners are becoming extinct in white ball format and Ash/Jaddu aren't exceptions. Coming to Ash check his ICC record, you will be surprised how valuable he has been in the big tournaments.
 
Rohit stands at 398 sixes now. Equalled Baz in maximum international sixes. 3rd in the list. Will go past in the next match or two.
 
Indias ODI unite Rohit Dhawan Kohli Bumrah , at home yeah many but overall just 4 and all of them except Dhawan have failed many times in KO matches..

Looking for some nerves of steel, that can make us win against Non-Asian teams in final..
What has dhawan done in KO matches.
All i remember is that he failed against pakistan in ct, failed against aus in wc 2015,failed in ct 2013 final.
Has close to zero memorable performances in t20 world cup.
 
BAN 153/6 (20.0)
IND 154/2 (15.4) CRR: 9.83
India won by 8 wkts
 
When Rohit gets going, it is going to be a complete blow out for opposition. Otherwise reasonably competed by BD/
 
But BD as a T20 team needs a lot of fire power. Their inability to take the attack to the cleaners in the backend on a flat wicket exposed their weakness.
 
I am not sure about who gets into the team but we can safely discard Krunal, Khaleel forever.
 
Iyer can, KL Rahul can.

Iyer can only bash spinners. KL will be out soon from the team, just wait. By that logic, Liton, Soumya, Mahmudullah, Afif and Mossadek are enough for fire power. Maybe add Sabbir as well.
 
Iyer can only bash spinners. KL will be out soon from the team, just wait. By that logic, Liton, Soumya, Mahmudullah, Afif and Mossadek are enough for fire power. Maybe add Sabbir as well.

At top gear KL Rahul can be as destructive as anybody in the world. Proved many times. You are talking about form and other things. BD players even at their very best form cannot be that destructive.
 
At top gear KL Rahul can be as destructive as anybody in the world. Proved many times. You are talking about form and other things. BD players even at their very best form cannot be that destructive.

I understand your point about Rahul but i am not sure the management will stick with a player who performs once in a blue moon any longer. Personally i have had enough of this KL's talent nonsense.
 
Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli
Iyer
Pant/Samson
Dubey
Hardik
Washington
Chahal/Kuldeep
Shami/Bhuvi
Bumrah

Bench: Rahul, Gowtham, Chahar, Saini

Pretty solid line up for next year wc.
 
At top gear KL Rahul can be as destructive as anybody in the world. Proved many times. You are talking about form and other things. BD players even at their very best form cannot be that destructive.

Proved many times? You mean in IPLs? When was the last time KL destructive in internationals? I guess it was his T20 ton against ENG in ENG. It's been ages already and I haven't seen a destructive Rahul in international cricket for a long time. Heck! Even Kedhar Jadhav had some notable and matchwinning performances than this timid fake opener! Had enough of this talent nonsense.
 
Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli
Iyer
Pant/Samson
Dubey
Hardik
Washington
Chahal/Kuldeep
Shami/Bhuvi
Bumrah

Bench: Rahul, Gowtham, Chahar, Saini

Pretty solid line up for next year wc.

Top 4 batsman are good. Rest consist of some overhyped players and some untested ones like Dubey. KL Rahul should be kicked. Plays like a sheep these days. Can't even dominate Bangladesh C side. :inti
 
At top gear KL Rahul can be as destructive as anybody in the world. Proved many times. You are talking about form and other things. BD players even at their very best form cannot be that destructive.

Lol at top gear. Do you even watch cricket these days? We have already seen his batting under pressure. He is a sheep and there is no place for him in Indian team now. Keep him in your IPL. Can't believe people were actually comparing him with Babar Azam. :inti
 
Proved many times? You mean in IPLs? When was the last time KL destructive in internationals? I guess it was his T20 ton against ENG in ENG. It's been ages already and I haven't seen a destructive Rahul in international cricket for a long time. Heck! Even Kedhar Jadhav had some notable and matchwinning performances than this timid fake opener! Had enough of this talent nonsense.

That's the problem with some indian fans these days. They want to keep giving players like Pant/Rahul chances after chances after 1-2 good innings but will discard a player like Samson after just 1 T20. These fans are indian versions of Umar Akmal fans. :inti
 
Scintillating knock of 85 from 43 balls from Rohit Sharma led India to a thumping eight-wicket win over Bangladesh in the second T20I, at Rajkot.

Rohit, who is standing in as skipper for India in the absence of Virat Kohli this series, led from the front in a chase of 154, striking six sixes and the same number of fours to have victory all but sealed when he was dismissed by Aminul Islam in the 13th over of the innings.

The opener enjoyed a 118-run opening partnership with Shikhar Dhawan, who contributed 31 in a partnership that was dominated by Rohit. At one point, the 32-year-old let loose with three sixes from the first three balls of a Mosaddek Hossain over. It seemed as if he was set to bring up T20I century No.5, but a miscued shot allowed Bangladesh some respite.

From there, KL Rahul bided his time while Shreyas Iyer went to 24 from 13 as India sealed victory with 4.2 overs to spare.

Rohit’s spectacular innings followed on from a top-heavy performance from Bangladesh as a number of players registered useful starts without being able to take their innings to another level in the vein of Rohit.

Liton Das (29 from 21) enjoyed a bit of luck when Rishabh Pant administered a stumping, but only after he had gathered the ball from in front of the stumps. Having also survived a dropped catch, he was eventually dismissed with 60 runs on the board for Bangladesh after Pant ran him out.

Mohammad Naim (36 from 31), Soumya Sarkar (30 from 20) and Mahmudullah (30 from 21) were the others unable to truly go big, and Bangladesh failed to find much success at the death.

For India, Yuzvendra Chahal starred, picking up 2/28 from his allocation of four overs. But it was another day all about Rohit’s excellence.

The series-decider will take place in Nagpur on Sunday.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1487064
 
What positives for Bangladesh from this game?
 
That's the problem with some indian fans these days. They want to keep giving players like Pant/Rahul chances after chances after 1-2 good innings but will discard a player like Samson after just 1 T20. These fans are indian versions of Umar Akmal fans. :inti

Let's keep Samson aside, some of them have discarded Vijay Shankar already calling him he's not cut for international cricket. I would take players like Shankar any day over these Pants, Rahuls and Dubey who're just show-offs. Give consistent chances to Shankar like they're giving for pant and he'll definitely flourish.
 
Top 4 batsman are good. Rest consist of some overhyped players and some untested ones like Dubey. KL Rahul should be kicked. Plays like a sheep these days. Can't even dominate Bangladesh C side. :inti

I have high hopes for Dubey, been following his career for over a year, he is a beastly hitter when on song and has some really impressive FC and list A performances under his belt, he is already 26 so this is the best time to have him in the team. I think we should persist with him. Can be a decent 6th bowling option as well.

KL is a mystery, dude has all the talents in the world but going through a seriously rough patch for quite a long time, still averages 42 striking at an impressive 145+, I would keep him in t20 and hope he finds his mojo. Just too good a player to be discarded from all formats.

Wonder what would be your XI as of now for the WC next year?
 
The day Sharmaji middles it, he is actually unstoppable - can’t blame our boys today. I think, it’s safe to say we are not going to defend much against India with a dart base attack, and definitely not in D/N games with dew pouring like rain. May be in future we’ll develop the wicket taking ability while defending, but right now one of Indian top 3 can chase any target almost alone.

Only silver lining is the leggi who seems (didn’t watch) to have bowled unbelievably good with a wet ball at that Rajkot ground against that rampant opening pair, perfectly set and in revenge mood. If he can maintain this bowling effort and keep improving, he’ll be like find of the decade, because kid can bat and bat quite well; not a blaster, but very reliable no. 5 in Domestic cricket. We are trying to develop a leggi and there are at least half a dozen trying their luck at academy, but this kid can bat as well, others are like no. 11 both with bat & leg-spin😩

And yes, the series is still alive and we must have to chase at Nugpur, probably one of the wettest ground in India under lights. Need to kick Mustafiz out of the playing XI though, and while batting one should remember that may be 1.5 Indian bowlers of this series will go to WC (Sundar is the 0.5; Chahal is comfortably 2nd best leggi after Rashid) - and they are squeezing a good start in middle overs effortlessly.
 
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I wouldnt feel too bad of I were a bangla fan. They could very well have made a match of it.
But Rohit does this quite often these days.
Its like if he fires on all cylinders he the other 21 fellows become totally irrelevant.
The pitch, the situation, the run rate, the pressure everything gets muted against the symphony of his batting masterclass.
The only other player who comes close in this regard is Butler.
Such is his prowess.
Sharma ji ka ladka is doing his parents proud quite frequently these days.
 
At top gear KL Rahul can be as destructive as anybody in the world. Proved many times. You are talking about form and other things. BD players even at their very best form cannot be that destructive.

Please don’t make me open the kl rahul vs babar thread again. Whatever I’ve said in that thread has been absolutely true. Kl rahul is a mediocre batsman only good for brill cream ads.
 
Please don’t make me open the kl rahul vs babar thread again. Whatever I’ve said in that thread has been absolutely true. Kl rahul is a mediocre batsman only good for brill cream ads.

In T20 he still has a decent average and strike rate 42 and 145. 2 centuries to go with.
 
Rahul should still get chances in T20Is. He should not play ODIs anytime soon though, India doesn't need him.
 
Rohit
Dhawan
Kohli
Iyer
Pant/Samson
Dubey
Hardik
Washington
Chahal/Kuldeep
Shami/Bhuvi
Bumrah

Bench: Rahul, Gowtham, Chahar, Saini

Pretty solid line up for next year wc.

Good line up. Rahul needs some time off, his approach and shot selection is beyond poor.
 
krunal is trash lol.
khaleel I will give him little more time but I see nothing special.
dubey has a good record in domestic tournaments but he needs to increase his pace by atleast 5 km/hr. trundling at 126 isn't good enough.
batting wise he seems like a big hitter.

sundar is quality
I wo
 
Please don’t make me open the kl rahul vs babar thread again. Whatever I’ve said in that thread has been absolutely true. Kl rahul is a mediocre batsman only good for brill cream ads.

KLs stats are actually comparative to Babar’s - you can check, while aesthetically, even Kohli will struggle to match him.

I am a fan of Babar, and not aware of what you wrote, but as of today, there are not much differences. Babar might move ahead in future and KL might be dropped from Indian squad for the competition he faces, but as of now, here are the stats

Test:
Babar: 21 Tests, 1235 runs @ 35/52 with 1/11 conversion. Highest 127* against Kiwis at UAE.

KL: 36 Tests, 2006 runs @ 35/56 with 5/11 conversion. Highest 199, and he has 4 of his 5 hundreds in Australia, UK, SRL & WIN.

Very similar stats (though Babar’s conversion rate is unacceptable), but considering most (I believe entire) runs of KLs are scored as opener, his stats are actually better.

ODI:
Babar: 74 ODI, 3359 runs @54/87, with 11/15 conversion & highest of 125*
KL: 23 - 704 @ 39/79, 2/4 and highest of 111

Considering most of KL’s runs are soft (Babar also has roosted on that line, but to a lesser extent), I’ll give it to Babar by some margin

T20:
Babar: 35 - 1399 - 52/128 - 0/12 - 97*
KL: 30 - 922 @ 42/145 - 2/5 - 110*

Again, I’ll give it to Babar, but this time marginally - PAK’s T20 ranking is a by product of opponents resting their key players, particularly bowlers, partially benefiting Babar as well. But, KL is also a beneficiary of that to a lesser extent, and he never got the chance to roost on Jason Mo’s WI or SRL reserves and that mighty World XI. Considering the batting productivity (Average & SR combination), KL actually isn’t far behind.

Overall, Babar is ahead and has a chance to fulfil his potential which KL failed to do so far, but his time isn’t over - his basics are brilliant, just needs a steady run.

Babar might move beyond KLs reach, but I spent so much time here only because of a little memory - sometimes in 2014-15, I watched an Indian domestic game (Dulip Trophy Final may be), and KL scored a pair of hundreds - then & then I knew that kid will go to Australia. It’s unfortunate that he couldn’t reach where he should have been, for some reasons, but that time I genuinely believed he’ll force Kohli to go down in batting order - he is just 27, still enough time left. In recent times, I have seen Indian batsmen coming back strong at mature age - Pujara, Dhawan, Sharma are different beasts after reaching 27-28, Rahane debuted at 25-26, Agarwal at 28, Behari at 25 and looks to stay there for a decade.... KLs time isn’t over yet. On contrary, Babar had the luck of having Arthur (instead of Basit Alis), to mentor him for three years, which has so far saved him from usual second year syndrome of PAK batsmen, but now he is alone - have to carry his batting guru Misbah as well!!!!!

Days have changed - PAK fans have to be more disciplined & cultured these days in blogs. I would really love to see what actually you wrote in that thread.
 
KLs stats are actually comparative to BabarÂ’s - you can check, while aesthetically, even Kohli will struggle to match him.

I am a fan of Babar, and not aware of what you wrote, but as of today, there are not much differences. Babar might move ahead in future and KL might be dropped from Indian squad for the competition he faces, but as of now, here are the stats

Test:
Babar: 21 Tests, 1235 runs @ 35/52 with 1/11 conversion. Highest 127* against Kiwis at UAE.

KL: 36 Tests, 2006 runs @ 35/56 with 5/11 conversion. Highest 199, and he has 4 of his 5 hundreds in Australia, UK, SRL & WIN.

Very similar stats (though BabarÂ’s conversion rate is unacceptable), but considering most (I believe entire) runs of KLs are scored as opener, his stats are actually better.

ODI:
Babar: 74 ODI, 3359 runs @54/87, with 11/15 conversion & highest of 125*
KL: 23 - 704 @ 39/79, 2/4 and highest of 111

Considering most of KLÂ’s runs are soft (Babar also has roosted on that line, but to a lesser extent), IÂ’ll give it to Babar by some margin

T20:
Babar: 35 - 1399 - 52/128 - 0/12 - 97*
KL: 30 - 922 @ 42/145 - 2/5 - 110*

Again, IÂ’ll give it to Babar, but this time marginally - PAKÂ’s T20 ranking is a by product of opponents resting their key players, particularly bowlers, partially benefiting Babar as well. But, KL is also a beneficiary of that to a lesser extent, and he never got the chance to roost on Jason MoÂ’s WI or SRL reserves and that mighty World XI. Considering the batting productivity (Average & SR combination), KL actually isnÂ’t far behind.

Overall, Babar is ahead and has a chance to fulfil his potential which KL failed to do so far, but his time isnÂ’t over - his basics are brilliant, just needs a steady run.

Babar might move beyond KLs reach, but I spent so much time here only because of a little memory - sometimes in 2014-15, I watched an Indian domestic game (Dulip Trophy Final may be), and KL scored a pair of hundreds - then & then I knew that kid will go to Australia. ItÂ’s unfortunate that he couldnÂ’t reach where he should have been, for some reasons, but that time I genuinely believed heÂ’ll force Kohli to go down in batting order - he is just 27, still enough time left. In recent times, I have seen Indian batsmen coming back strong at mature age - Pujara, Dhawan, Sharma are different beasts after reaching 27-28, Rahane debuted at 25-26, Agarwal at 28, Behari at 25 and looks to stay there for a decade.... KLs time isnÂ’t over yet. On contrary, Babar had the luck of having Arthur (instead of Basit Alis), to mentor him for three years, which has so far saved him from usual second year syndrome of PAK batsmen, but now he is alone - have to carry his batting guru Misbah as well!!!!!

Days have changed - PAK fans have to be more disciplined & cultured these days in blogs. I would really love to see what actually you wrote in that thread.

I actually agree with you, but you have to understand that comparison between Babar and KL rahul hurts pakistanis mentally because KL rahul is on verge of getting kicked out of indian team for good while Babar Azam is day and night above all the rest of pakistani batsmen and possibly even the greatest pakistani batsmen ever. Its just like how bangladeshis would feel if we compare krunal pandya with shakib
 
I actually agree with you, but you have to understand that comparison between Babar and KL rahul hurts pakistanis mentally because KL rahul is on verge of getting kicked out of indian team for good while Babar Azam is day and night above all the rest of pakistani batsmen and possibly even the greatest pakistani batsmen ever. Its just like how bangladeshis would feel if we compare krunal pandya with shakib

KL Rahul has become timidity personified. I just switch off when he walks in. And while i hate to admit it, Babar would have well and truly arrived in the big league by the end of AUS tour.
 
KLs stats are actually comparative to Babar’s - you can check, while aesthetically, even Kohli will struggle to match him.

I am a fan of Babar, and not aware of what you wrote, but as of today, there are not much differences. Babar might move ahead in future and KL might be dropped from Indian squad for the competition he faces, but as of now, here are the stats

Test:
Babar: 21 Tests, 1235 runs @ 35/52 with 1/11 conversion. Highest 127* against Kiwis at UAE.

KL: 36 Tests, 2006 runs @ 35/56 with 5/11 conversion. Highest 199, and he has 4 of his 5 hundreds in Australia, UK, SRL & WIN.

Very similar stats (though Babar’s conversion rate is unacceptable), but considering most (I believe entire) runs of KLs are scored as opener, his stats are actually better.

ODI:
Babar: 74 ODI, 3359 runs @54/87, with 11/15 conversion & highest of 125*
KL: 23 - 704 @ 39/79, 2/4 and highest of 111

Considering most of KL’s runs are soft (Babar also has roosted on that line, but to a lesser extent), I’ll give it to Babar by some margin

T20:
Babar: 35 - 1399 - 52/128 - 0/12 - 97*
KL: 30 - 922 @ 42/145 - 2/5 - 110*

Again, I’ll give it to Babar, but this time marginally - PAK’s T20 ranking is a by product of opponents resting their key players, particularly bowlers, partially benefiting Babar as well. But, KL is also a beneficiary of that to a lesser extent, and he never got the chance to roost on Jason Mo’s WI or SRL reserves and that mighty World XI. Considering the batting productivity (Average & SR combination), KL actually isn’t far behind.

Overall, Babar is ahead and has a chance to fulfil his potential which KL failed to do so far, but his time isn’t over - his basics are brilliant, just needs a steady run.

Babar might move beyond KLs reach, but I spent so much time here only because of a little memory - sometimes in 2014-15, I watched an Indian domestic game (Dulip Trophy Final may be), and KL scored a pair of hundreds - then & then I knew that kid will go to Australia. It’s unfortunate that he couldn’t reach where he should have been, for some reasons, but that time I genuinely believed he’ll force Kohli to go down in batting order - he is just 27, still enough time left. In recent times, I have seen Indian batsmen coming back strong at mature age - Pujara, Dhawan, Sharma are different beasts after reaching 27-28, Rahane debuted at 25-26, Agarwal at 28, Behari at 25 and looks to stay there for a decade.... KLs time isn’t over yet. On contrary, Babar had the luck of having Arthur (instead of Basit Alis), to mentor him for three years, which has so far saved him from usual second year syndrome of PAK batsmen, but now he is alone - have to carry his batting guru Misbah as well!!!!!

Days have changed - PAK fans have to be more disciplined & cultured these days in blogs. I would really love to see what actually you wrote in that thread.

Wish PP had like button 👆
 
KLs stats are actually comparative to Babar’s - you can check, while aesthetically, even Kohli will struggle to match him.

I am a fan of Babar, and not aware of what you wrote, but as of today, there are not much differences. Babar might move ahead in future and KL might be dropped from Indian squad for the competition he faces, but as of now, here are the stats

Test:
Babar: 21 Tests, 1235 runs @ 35/52 with 1/11 conversion. Highest 127* against Kiwis at UAE.

KL: 36 Tests, 2006 runs @ 35/56 with 5/11 conversion. Highest 199, and he has 4 of his 5 hundreds in Australia, UK, SRL & WIN.

Very similar stats (though Babar’s conversion rate is unacceptable), but considering most (I believe entire) runs of KLs are scored as opener, his stats are actually better.

ODI:
Babar: 74 ODI, 3359 runs @54/87, with 11/15 conversion & highest of 125*
KL: 23 - 704 @ 39/79, 2/4 and highest of 111

Considering most of KL’s runs are soft (Babar also has roosted on that line, but to a lesser extent), I’ll give it to Babar by some margin

T20:
Babar: 35 - 1399 - 52/128 - 0/12 - 97*
KL: 30 - 922 @ 42/145 - 2/5 - 110*

Again, I’ll give it to Babar, but this time marginally - PAK’s T20 ranking is a by product of opponents resting their key players, particularly bowlers, partially benefiting Babar as well. But, KL is also a beneficiary of that to a lesser extent, and he never got the chance to roost on Jason Mo’s WI or SRL reserves and that mighty World XI. Considering the batting productivity (Average & SR combination), KL actually isn’t far behind.

Overall, Babar is ahead and has a chance to fulfil his potential which KL failed to do so far, but his time isn’t over - his basics are brilliant, just needs a steady run.

Babar might move beyond KLs reach, but I spent so much time here only because of a little memory - sometimes in 2014-15, I watched an Indian domestic game (Dulip Trophy Final may be), and KL scored a pair of hundreds - then & then I knew that kid will go to Australia. It’s unfortunate that he couldn’t reach where he should have been, for some reasons, but that time I genuinely believed he’ll force Kohli to go down in batting order - he is just 27, still enough time left. In recent times, I have seen Indian batsmen coming back strong at mature age - Pujara, Dhawan, Sharma are different beasts after reaching 27-28, Rahane debuted at 25-26, Agarwal at 28, Behari at 25 and looks to stay there for a decade.... KLs time isn’t over yet. On contrary, Babar had the luck of having Arthur (instead of Basit Alis), to mentor him for three years, which has so far saved him from usual second year syndrome of PAK batsmen, but now he is alone - have to carry his batting guru Misbah as well!!!!!

Days have changed - PAK fans have to be more disciplined & cultured these days in blogs. I would really love to see what actually you wrote in that thread.

Post of the year. :bow:
 
I actually agree with you, but you have to understand that comparison between Babar and KL rahul hurts pakistanis mentally because KL rahul is on verge of getting kicked out of indian team for good while Babar Azam is day and night above all the rest of pakistani batsmen and possibly even the greatest pakistani batsmen ever. Its just like how bangladeshis would feel if we compare krunal pandya with shakib

The comparison shouldn’t heart at all - why, I have explained. And that comparison was made at least couple of years back. It hurts PAK fans because of attitude problem and a feeling of entitlement, nothing else.

If any intellectual compares KPandeya with Shakib, I’ll feel pity on that guy and move on - he doesn’t deserve my attention. Just like I did in couple of such threads which discuss comparison between Shakib and the prodigy all-rounder Shadab Khan.
 
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