India [252] defeat New Zealand [217] by 35 runs to win the 5th ODI and win series 4-1

[Bubby]

You do realize Kane started trying out bowlers when he could have bowled India out for 100 again?

but TBH, there is no justification for letting ur opponents from to 252 that is a big let off.
18/4

 

[jnaveen1980]

That is done Despite NZ having 10 batsmen India defended very welll

 

[battler]

[MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION], You basically lost without India playing their top 3 odi players in Kohli, Kuldeep and Bumrah at your home. Must be embarrassing!

 

[JattMaula]

Good outing for middle order.

Pandya has improved out of sight yet again.

 

[Oligochaetes]

Good outing for middle order.

Pandya has improved out of sight yet again.

Pandya should have Koffee more often.

 

[jnaveen1980]

[MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION], You basically lost without India playing their top 3 odi players in Kohli, Kuldeep and Bumrah at your home. Must be embarrassing!

MThat too by deliberately opting to field first giving advantage to NZ and defended total in dew conditions.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Chahal what a bowler

 

[JattMaula]

Pandya should have Koffee more often.

Don't think Pandya will ever touch that dark stuff again.

 

[Aman]

Test out what? All NZ bowlers except Boult are pie throwers. India had an off day last match.

Munro, CdG and Neesham all started bowling when India were looking to rebuild.

In a proper game he would have bowled Henry and Boult in tandem with Santner, Astle or CdG, those are the most likely to get wickets.

It wasn't Kane being an idiot, they didn't get a chance to see much of them last game so the middle overs this match to see what they could do.

 

[Aman]

but TBH, there is no justification for letting ur opponents from to 252 that is a big let off.
18/4

They literally only got to 250 because they wanted to see how the A/Rs could bowl.

If he wanted to bowl India out, he would have likely bowled India out for under 120.

 

[yuvi]

Munro, CdG and Neesham all started bowling when India were looking to rebuild.

In a proper game he would have bowled Henry and Boult in tandem with Santner, Astle or CdG, those are the most likely to get wickets.

It wasn't Kane being an idiot, they didn't get a chance to see much of them last game so the middle overs this match to see what they could do.

Rayudu & Shankar were playing Boult, Henry comfertably as the ball got older so KW was forced to save them for later.

 

[Aman]

Rayudu & Shankar were playing Boult, Henry comfertably as the ball got older so KW was forced to save them for later.

This wasn't a game plan lmao.

Santner bowled 3 overs the entire game, he's a first choice bowler who almost always bowls out.

Astle had bowled a couple of overs before he was brought back to bowl at the death.

Munro who rarely gets a bowl, bowled 10 overs...

 

[JustNotAFanOfThings]

Although series was already sealed, this was by far the most satisfying win of the series.

 

[jnaveen1980]

They literally only got to 250 because they wanted to see how the A/Rs could bowl.

If he wanted to bowl India out, he would have likely bowled India out for under 120.

That is speculation I say India could have thrashed you around for 20 overs straight in the backend and reached 300 . They got lucky with 2 top order wits. Once Vijay carted bout through mid wicket he took him off.
Ambati Rayudu biggest strength is playing against spin how can you claim they would have made difference

 

[yuvi]

This wasn't a game plan lmao.

Santner bowled 3 overs the entire game, he's a first choice bowler who almost always bowls out.

Astle had bowled a couple of overs before he was brought back to bowl at the death.

Santner looked ineffective on the moist pitch. Kane was forced to try other options.

 

[Oligochaetes]

Winning from 18-4 doesnt happen too often in ODI's

 

[Aman]

That is speculation I say India could have thrashed you around for 20 overs straight in the backend and reached 300 . They got lucky with 2 top order wits. Once Vijay carted bout through mid wicket he took him off.
Ambati Rayudu biggest strength is playing against spin how can you claim they would have made difference

The part timers and A/Rs bowled 22 overs between them. 2 bowlers who are expected to bowl 20 overs bowled 8.

You watched the game, you know what was going on.

No captain would let a team rebuild unless he had another motive (trying out bowlers)>

India were the same looking to bat again after the last game, despite conditions being good for bowling.

 

[deep82]

Kiwis smashed black and blue !!

Even without our three key players and after being 18/4, top performance to win it with ease at the end....

 

[Hasan123]

Didn't expect India to win 4-1. That's an amazing effort. England won 3-2 in NZ.

Kohli has made India more ruthless.

 

[yuvi]

The part timers and A/Rs bowled 22 overs between them. 2 bowlers who are expected to bowl 20 overs bowled 8.

KW felt his seam bowler more likely to trouble batsmen than the spinners on this pitch. Even Munro was very economical initially. Anyways NZ spinners didn't look like making much impact today.

 

[jnaveen1980]

The part timers and A/Rs bowled 22 overs between them. 2 bowlers who are expected to bowl 20 overs bowled 8.

You watched the game, you know what was going on.

No captain would let a team rebuild unless he had another motive (trying out bowlers)>

India were the same looking to bat again after the last game, despite conditions being good for bowling.

your spinners 8 overs 53 runs Monroe 10 overs 47 runs lol your spinners are average spinners S

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Rohit, dhawan, dhoni got out intentionally to check our middle order and still you couldn't win

 

[ekpakistani]

They literally only got to 250 because they wanted tjo see how the A/Rs could bowl.

If he wanted to bowl India out, he would have likely bowled India out for under 120.

You seem to know better than Kane W.... Fact is NZ lost the match... Everything else is moral victory

 

[Aman]

I just want Indian fans to remember it was us that got Rayudu on that plane to England. It'll come in handy in 4 months time.

 

[jnaveen1980]

CDG took 3 wats last match But Aman thinks his pie chucking spinners were deliberately kept out lol most comical excuse

 

[Kaptan]

They literally only got to 250 because they wanted to see how the A/Rs could bowl.

If he wanted to bowl India out, he would have likely bowled India out for under 120.

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yea, and Rohit also wanted to see how our middle order bats under pressure.

if he wanted, he could have easily scored 200 alone.

 

[Kaptan]

[MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] is behaving like a desi mom today.
" mera beta bahut teez hai bus mehnat nhi karta, agar ye chahe to IIT nikal le"

 

[Aman]

[MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] is behaving like a desi mom today.
" mera beta bahut teez hai bus mehnat nhi karta, agar ye chahe to IIT nikal le"

Here's the difference, there's zero expectations of this team. No one expects them to do anything, nor will they get much attention as it's on the other side of the world. It's also a RWC year.

It hurts a lot more when you're a contender and have realistic hopes of winning. India have expectations on them with a billion Indians behind them. If the fail, it's gonna hurt. NZ go out in the group stage, semis or whatever, no big deal. It's overachieving + their's the AB's potentially three-peating left which is the big one for the year.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Aman is having a melt down He was preparing himself to gloat when India was 18/4 Didn’t happen so lol

 

[jnaveen1980]

Here's the difference, there's zero expectations of this team. No one expects them to do anything, nor will they get much attention as it's on the other side of the world. It's also a RWC year.

It hurts a lot more when you're a contender and have realistic hopes of winning. India have expectations on them with a billion Indians behind them. If the fail, it's gonna hurt. NZ go out in the group stage, semis or whatever, no big deal. It's overachieving + their's the AB's potentially three-peating left which is the big one for the year.

Why do you resort to trolling by giving excuse for each and everything.

 

[Stalin]

Here's the difference, there's zero expectations of this team. No one expects them to do anything, nor will they get much attention as it's on the other side of the world. It's also a RWC year.

It hurts a lot more when you're a contender and have realistic hopes of winning. India have expectations on them with a billion Indians behind them. If the fail, it's gonna hurt. NZ go out in the group stage, semis or whatever, no big deal. It's overachieving + their's the AB's potentially three-peating left which is the big one for the year.

Okay.
Whatever makes you feel better.

 

[Aman]

Why do you resort to trolling by giving excuse for each and everything.

I'm calling it how it is.

If we were to lose in RWC, that would hurt.

That 2007 loss to France in the QF was heartbreaking. I still remember small details from that day

 

[Stalin]

Oh man it's going to be so sweet when you get knocked out.

What a sad and a pathetic life you're living!
Hope you find better ways to keep yourselves alive.

 

[Kaptan]

Here's the difference, there's zero expectations of this team. No one expects them to do anything, nor will they get much attention as it's on the other side of the world. It's also a RWC year.

It hurts a lot more when you're a contender and have realistic hopes of winning. India have expectations on them with a billion Indians behind them. If the fail, it's gonna hurt. NZ go out in the group stage, semis or whatever, no big deal. It's overachieving + their's the AB's potentially three-peating left which is the big one for the year.

You are 3rd in ICC rankings, playing against a 2nd ranked team in home conditions. You are expected to win.

 

[Aman]

You are 3rd in ICC rankings, playing against a 2nd ranked team in home conditions. You are expected to win.

I expected us to do better, but India are in great form and have most of their bases sorted. We still have issues and are trying to fill gaps.

You can look back to posts form last year where I said we would finish 5th or 6th in the GS.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

This result flatters NZ. Rohit chose to bat first to test our batting. There was enough moisture in the pitch and we would have murdered NZ had we chase. Still, a good win.

 

[Cricketlover11vns]

I'm calling it how it is.

If we were to lose in RWC, that would hurt.

That 2007 loss to France in the QF was heartbreaking. I still remember small details from that day

If it doesn't concern you,then why are you here at pakpassion..only passionate cricket lovers come here

 

[Aman]

If it doesn't concern you,then why are you here at pakpassion..only passionate cricket lovers come here

I post on multiple forums.. and I'm a realist.

I'm aware of how far off we are and that the chances of us doing much in the WC are bleak.

 

[Aman]

Banter aside, India are looking good for the WC.

Still not convinced on that middle order, but if they minimize the work they have to do, India can win with their bowling attack and top 3 covering to make up for the deficiency. It's the best A/R attack by far, Chalal and Yadav will trouble plenty of teams.

 

[leatherface58]

We just needed someone to bat till the end. Terrible performance. Neesham should make the WC XI based on his performance in this series. Surely, Munro should be binned after this.

Guptill
Nicholls
Kane
Taylor
Latham
Neesham
Santner
CDG/Bracewell
Southee/Ferguson/Henry
Astle
Boult

 

[Aman]

We just needed someone to bat till the end. Terrible performance. Neesham should make the WC XI based on his performance in this series. Surely, Munro should be binned after this.

Guptill
Nicholls
Kane
Taylor
Latham
Neesham
Santner
CDG/Bracewell
Southee/Ferguson/Henry
Astle
Boult

The good thing is expectations will be rock bottom, if they go out of the GS no one will be surprised.

As long as we finish above 6th, I'm good. Anything lower should be considered a failure.

Too many players are out of form or don't have the experience of winning games. Tonight was an opportunity for Neesham and he messed it up.

 

[leatherface58]

The good thing is expectations will be rock bottom, if they go out of the GS no one will be surprised.

As long as we finish above 6th, I'm good. Anything lower should be considered a failure.

I am hoping for a semi final finish at least.

This was bad but this was literally the best side in the world bashing us. On a normal day, we should be able to beat everyone except probably England and India. But then again, there are rarely normal days in a World Cup.

 

[Aman]

Too many players are out of form or don't have the experience of winning games. Tonight was an opportunity for Neesham and Latham, both messed it up.

Guptill and Kane's form are also a big concern.

 

[Aman]

I am hoping for a semi final finish at least.

This was bad but this was literally the best side in the world bashing us. On a normal day, we should be able to beat everyone except probably England and India. But then again, there are rarely normal days in a World Cup.

We're not making the SFs, it would be a miracle if we do that and even if we do, we'd be easy beats. I'd rather that spot go to a team who can actually go somewhere with it (Pakistan).

Too many players out of form or lack the experience of winning games. Gotta be realistic.

 

[MenInG]

India recovered from four down in the first 10 overs to post a competitive 252 courtesy Ambati Rayudu's 90 and Hardik Pandya's 22-ball 45 in the fifth one-day international against New Zealand.

New Zealand were bowled out for 217 and conceded the game by 35 runs to lose the series 4-1 on Sunday, 3 February, in Wellington.

With India 18/4 inside 10 overs, and all of Rohit Sharma, Shikhar Dhawan, Shubman Gill and Mahendra Singh Dhoni back inside, a repeat of the previous game, where they were bowled for 92, seemed likely. Fortunately for the visitors, Rayudu and Vijay Shankar combined for a match-saving 98-run stand for the fifth wicket.

Vijay, in his fourth ODI but his first time coming out to bat, looked assured, allowing his senior to bat around him. Rayudu took his time initially, settling down and then knocking the ball around in the gaps.

The No.4 brought up his half-century off 86 balls with four fours and two sixes, but that was not before he was involved in an unfortunate mix-up with Shankar, who was run-out on 45.

India were again in a bit of trouble at 116/5 in the 32nd over, but Kedar Jadhav played the perfect foil to Rayudu. The settled batsman took a few risks and upped the ante, hitting Colin Munro for two sixes and a four in the 40th over, then smashing Matt Henry for three fours in two overs to move into the 90s.

He could not reach his hundred, though, as he miscued a Henry delivery and found Munro at deep cover.

Neesham kept New Zealand in the hunt with his 44 off 32 balls Neesham kept New Zealand in the hunt with his 44 off 32 balls
It was a blessing in disguise for India, as Pandya walked out at No.8. Even though he lost Jadhav (34) soon, he took the attack to New Zealand at the death. He hit Todd Astle for three consecutive sixes in the 47th over and then Boult for one more before taking Neesham for two fours and a six in the penultimate over.

His five sixes and two fours before being dismissed in the final over had given India a total to defend.

Chasing 253 runs, the hosts did not get the best of starts with Mohammed Shami having Henry Nicholls (8) caught by Jadhav at short mid-wicket in the fourth over.

Rayudu top scored for India with 90 runs Rayudu top scored for India with 90 runs
And while Colin Munro (24) threatened by hitting Bhuvneshwar Kumar for consecutive boundaries, his stay was cut short by Shami as well, as he chopped on to his stumps. When Ross Taylor (1) was trapped lbw by Pandya in his first over, New Zealand were in trouble at 38/3.

Captain Kane Williamson (39) took it upon himself to resurrect the innings. Taking a cue from Rayudu's book, he batted patiently to add 67 runs with Tom Latham to take New Zealand past 100.

However, just when it looked like he had got his eye in, he mistimed a Jadhav delivery straight to Shikhar Dhawan at deep mid-wicket. Latham followed soon after, misreading a Yuzvendra Chahal googly and New Zealand were reduced to 119/5.

Hardik Pandya smashed 45 runs off just 22 balls Hardik Pandya smashed 45 runs off just 22 balls
When Colin de Grandhomme was trapped in front, too, it looked all but over for the hosts. But Neesham, getting a hit for the first time in the series, took the attack to the Indian pacers, hitting Pandya for a six in the 34th before taking Shami for two fours in the 35th to make it a run-a-ball in the last 15 overs.

When Bhuvneshwar Kumar conceded 10 off two balls, it looked like Neesham had put the hosts back in with a shot. That was not to be, though, as street-smart fielding by Dhoni behind the stumps sent him back. Dhoni leaped towards the ball and broke the stumps even as Neesham was distracted by an lbw appeal and was out of his crease.

The last three New Zealand wickets added 44 runs, but it wasn't enough. Chahal finished with 3/41 and Shami and Pandya returned with two wickets apiece.

For New Zealand, Boult (3/39) and Henry (4/35) had been the pick of the bowlers. Boult got Dhawan caught in the deep and breached Dhoni's defence even as Henry got one through Sharma and made Gill drive at a wide one, only to lob a catch to short cover.

Unlike last time, though, there would be no repeat of the middle-order collapse for India.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1046546

 

[happydavy]

Where was this excuse when you were beating Aus without their 2 best batsmen?

Excuse is to be given when someone loses, why would anyone give an excuse for winning? Time to polish your vocabulary.

 

[Swashbuckler]

Very happy that our MO got a workout today in the middle. And Shami is back, great to see.

 

[fitCricFan]

but TBH, there is no justification for letting ur opponents from to 252 that is a big let off.
18/4

This is at least the 2nd time Indians have won from such a precarious situation. The last time was in the 1983 WC when KapilDev scored 175 not out against Zimbabwe when they were, I think, 17/5.
The rest is history as they sent on to win the WC

 

[MenInG]

New Zealand have slipped to fourth place in the ICC ODI Team Rankings after they lost to India in the the fifth one-day international by 35 runs in Wellington.
New Zealand have slipped behind South Africa to fourth place in the MRF Tyres ICC ODI Team Rankings after their 4-1 series loss to India.

New Zealand are now on 111 points, the same as South Africa but behind on decimal points, even as second-placed India have gained one point to bridge the gap with ICC Cricket World Cup 2019 hosts England. England lead the table with 126 points while India have reached 122.

India and New Zealand would have remained on their pre-series tally of 121 and 113 points, respectively, had the home side pulled off a victory in the last match in Wellington on Sunday for a 3-2 series result.

Pakistan, who lost a close series to South Africa 3-2 last week, are in fifth position with 102 points while World champions Australia are in sixth place with 100 points.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/media-releases/1046561

 

[mystical man]

Banter aside, India are looking good for the WC.


Still not convinced on that middle order, but if they minimize the work they have to do, India can win with their bowling attack and top 3 covering to make up for the deficiency. It's the best A/R attack by far, Chalal and Yadav will trouble plenty of teams.

Agree only thing missing is a player like Yuvraj but other than that we have bowling all rounders like Hardik and Vijay along with quality spinners and a fantastic pace attack

 

[Banter]

I just want Indian fans to remember it was us that got Rayudu on that plane to England. It'll come in handy in 4 months time.

Rayudu only looks bad because he's compared to ODI stud batsmen all around him. He's any day better than the likes of Nichols, Latham, Guptill, Munro etc.

He's a quality batsman who'd be a surefire starter for any ODI team in the world except India and England.

And FWIW I hope he plays against NZ in the WC and puts the boot in.

 

[jnaveen1980]

This is at least the 2nd time Indians have won from such a precarious situation. The last time was in the 1983 WC when KapilDev scored 175 not out against Zimbabwe when they were, I think, 17/5.
The rest is history as they sent on to win the WC

India won against Austarlia sometime back from 11/3 . Pandya made 80 or something even then

 

[urnotserious]

I just want Indian fans to remember it was us that got Rayudu on that plane to England. It'll come in handy in 4 months time.

I just want you to remember that this Rayudu will walk into an ALL time **** ODI eleven even with only 50 odd ODIs under his belt. He is already better than Miandad and everyone you consider under his ability in Pakistan history.

 

[rhony]

Oh man..Such golden banter and I missed it last night. Looks like [MENTION=147687]Shandarchowka[/MENTION] and [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] were ripped to shreds AMan tried every excuse in the book but can't explain Kane's shot

Watched the replay today and this Shankar dude looks a good batsman. Rayudud finally played an innings of substance and is a lock for No.4 unless he flops horribly in the Aussie series and IPL. I here chatter that Rahana might be in the reckoning for Aussie series. As I said earlier, Shubman is not ready yet. Fantastic comeback and bowling performance by this champion bowling unit that was missing it's two best bowlers- Bumrah and Kuldeep. This Indian middle order though weaker than England's and probably NZ's is experienced and street smart. They will win chases as they've shown time and again. They challenged themselves in this game and have destroyed Kiwis in this series. 4-1 huh..who would have thought [MENTION=140806]jnaveen1980[/MENTION]

 

[BaankeJi]

[MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION], You basically lost without India playing their top 3 odi players in Kohli, Kuldeep and Bumrah at your home. Must be embarrassing!

Lost or got thrashing of a lifetime?

 

[rhony]

Munro, CdG and Neesham all started bowling when India were looking to rebuild.

In a proper game he would have bowled Henry and Boult in tandem with Santner, Astle or CdG, those are the most likely to get wickets.

It wasn't Kane being an idiot, they didn't get a chance to see much of them last game so the middle overs this match to see what they could do.

Rayudu plays spin well. He can't handle pace. Also, Rayudu got out to CDG in the last game. Kane was trying to choke India through these dibbly dobblers. Other than Boult, rest are pie throwers. I'm wondering how this NZ team got to 3rd ranking with this bowling unit. Henry was ok this game. Overall a poor series for NZ in batting and bowling barring the 4th ODI where Boult did his customary thing that he does once in a series.

 

[TheSensible]

Oh man..Such golden banter and I missed it last night. Looks like [MENTION=147687]Shandarchowka[/MENTION] and [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] were ripped to shreds AMan tried every excuse in the book but can't explain Kane's shot

Watched the replay today and this Shankar dude looks a good batsman. Rayudud finally played an innings of substance and is a lock for No.4 unless he flops horribly in the Aussie series and IPL. I here chatter that Rahana might be in the reckoning for Aussie series. As I said earlier, Shubman is not ready yet. Fantastic comeback and bowling performance by this champion bowling unit that was missing it's two best bowlers- Bumrah and Kuldeep. This Indian middle order though weaker than England's and probably NZ's is experienced and street smart. They will win chases as they've shown time and again. They challenged themselves in this game and have destroyed Kiwis in this series. 4-1 huh..who would have thought [MENTION=140806]jnaveen1980[/MENTION]

Gotta be a lil easy on Gill. His fall of wickets weren't for a lack of technique, but for shot selection. You should consider the precarious position he came in both times as wickets were falling left and right.

I'll give him a few more chances before sending him off to A team or lower ranks to re-build something he may already possess.

 

[latecut]

Rayudu plays spin well. He can't handle pace. Also, Rayudu got out to CDG in the last game. Kane was trying to choke India through these dibbly dobblers. Other than Boult, rest are pie throwers. I'm wondering how this NZ team got to 3rd ranking with this bowling unit. Henry was ok this game. Overall a poor series for NZ in batting and bowling barring the 4th ODI where Boult did his customary thing that he does once in a series.

There are many fans here who start getting this doubt after a team plays India and loses. Such doubts are quickly dispelled after this team plays their next series and starts winning again.

We saw Australia regaining their winning tough against Sri Lanka. New Zealand too will be back to their winning ways in their next ODI series which is against Bangladesh, the second strongest team in Asia (according to their fans).

 

[BaankeJi]

There are many fans here who start getting this doubt after a team plays India and loses. Such doubts are quickly dispelled after this team plays their next series and starts winning again.

We saw Australia regaining their winning tough against Sri Lanka. New Zealand too will be back to their winning ways in their next ODI series which is against Bangladesh, the second strongest team in Asia (according to their fans).

True.

India win -> There must be something wrong with opposition.
India lose -> India are not good enough.

It is always lose lose situation for Indian team and their supporters.