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India (364 & 298/8 dec) defeat England (391 & 120) by 151 runs to take a 1-0 lead in the series

OldWarHorse said:
Why the hell we didnt pick Siraj for WTC?!
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I wanted him too but it was a tough call

even if we played 4 pacers,Thakur would have played ahead of Ashwin

On form Bumrah deserved to be dropped but it was never gonna happen
 
Indian captains to win the Lord's Test
1986: Kapil Dev
2014: MS Dhoni
2021: Virat Kohli
 
gani999 said:
KL Rahul : 'With two competitive teams you're going to see a lot of heart and great skills and some words. We don't mind a bit of banter, but if you go after one of our guys all eleven will come right back."

It's this spirit that I've been longing to see among Indians ever since I started following cricket in the 1980s.

I'm happy it is finally there.
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Thats Kohli’s stamp on the team right out there! The other day somebody in the crowd threw Chmpagne cork on Rahul, Kohli told him to throw it back on the offenders. No meekness in this Kohli team, reminds me of Imran’s team or Steve Waugh’s team.
 
A heroic performance from the Indian bowlers helped the visitors seal a 151-run victory against England at Lord's to go 1-0 up in the five-match series.

India resumed play on day four at 181/6 with Rishabh Pant and Ishant Sharma at the crease. The onus was always going to be on Pant to extend the overnight lead of 154 but Ollie Robinson struck in the fourth over of the day, inducing an edge off a ball going across the southpaw.

Four overs later, Robinson trapped Ishant Sharma in front of the stumps to send him packing and it looked like it was a matter of time before England wrapped up the tail. But what followed was a resolute show from the tailenders.

Mohammad Shami and Jasprit Bumrah came together and strung an unbeaten 89-run partnership to not only bail India out of trouble but also to put them in a position where they could chase a win in the final innings.

Bumrah faced some chin music and a few verbal volleys but managed to keep the scoreboard ticking, albeit with the help of a few edges going to the boundary. Shami on the other hand went after the bowling, throwing his bat whenever he got a chance and soon brought up his second Test fifty with a six off Moeen Ali. India went into lunch at 286/8 with a lead of 259.

Virat Kohli decided to declare the innings an over and a half after the break, setting England a target of 272 to chase in 60 possible overs.

After rescuing India with the bat, Bumrah and Shami came together to wreak more havoc, this time with the ball. Calamity struck early for England in their second innings as their opening woes continued with Rory Burns and Dom Sibley both getting out for a duck.

Haseeb Hameed stuck around for a patient knock of 9 before he was trapped in front of the stumps by Ishant Sharma in his very first over. Joe Root and Jonny Bairstow then steadied the ship for the hosts, before Kohli successfully reviewed an lbw call on the final delivery before tea, as Ishant dismissed Bairstow for 2.

India started the final session on top as Joe Root perished against Bumrah for 33 as the visitors sniffed a victory. England could have been in even more trouble, but Kohli dropped Buttler on 2 off the bowling of Bumrah. Buttler joined by Moeen Ali on the crease, then adopted a defence-first approach, as the Indian bowlers tried to achieve another breakthrough to have a crack at the English tail.

Mohammed Siraj's over then blew the game wide open, as he picked up Moeen Ali and Sam Curran in back-to-back deliveries.

Buttler and Robinson resisted for a long period, re-igniting England's hopes of salvaging a draw. But Bumrah's clever innovation of using the slower ball from round the wicket got him the dismissal of Robinson through an LBW.

It was the man of the moment, Mohammed Siraj who then sealed a famous victory for India. First inducing the edge from Buttler, he then bowled James Anderson in the same over as the Indian team erupted to seal a famous 151-run victory, going 1-0 up in the five-match series.
 
Siraj was fire today, all heart! Absolutely loved that stare he gave to Robinson today and Bumrah went back to his 2016-18 trailblazing form.
 
Excellent performance by India.

A deserved win.

They rattled England, they got under their skin, they did what England do to other teams in their own conditions and England couldn't cope.

Aggression is a key part in professional sport and this Indian team not only has skill, but has aggression and a solidarity.
 
Saj said:
Excellent performance by India.

A deserved win.

They rattled England, they got under their skin, they did what England do to other teams in their own conditions and England couldn't cope.

Aggression is a key part in professional sport and this Indian team not only has skill, but has aggression and a solidarity.
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England it appears are scared to give green tops against India knowing full well Shami, Bhumra, Ishant, Siraj will wreck way more havoc vs their Anderson dependent attack
 
A very fine victory, the match in the normal course of events should have been drawn so bit surprised the way it unfolded.
Congratulations to Indians.

English team have enough time off till next match and will try to find some answers to playing the Indian pace attack. Need to do better with Bat.
Definitely Bairstow Buttler Moeen Curran are more established bats than Bumrah shami and Ishant yet couldnt save the test. No excuse to lose entire batting unit in under two sessions.

Critical points of this match in that order were
1) Root toss decision
2) KL Rahul batting on day one under very trying conditions.
3) Roots brilliant counter attack
4) Bumrah and Siraj batting heroics
5) Quality pace bowling after day 5 lunch

Slip catching of Rohit and Kohli, an ultra safe late declaration and poor form of Kohli in batting and Jadeja in bowling have been off target and may count as negatives for India.

Positives - return of form of Rohit Sharma,
Bumrah and Sirajs fiery spell
Pujara Rahane - finally showing some spine

Test #3 will be a cracker of a match. Cant wait to see that one.
 
Cryin Out Loud said:
Yeah I don’t know who got that, but a world war 2 tragic like me did.

I guess the enemy Messerschmitts managed to shoot down the Lancaster? Hopefully the Channel recovery ‘boats’ manage to pick up the pilots for the next Test. Unless they flew right over the white cliffs and landed in some farmer’s field.

Because it’s freezing down there in the waters!
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Great analogy!. Add me to that tragic group too. A'la Dunkirk
 
OldWarHorse said:
Why the hell we didnt pick Siraj for WTC?!
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Saurav said:
even if we played 4 pacers Thakur would have been selected.
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No, Siraj would’ve played over Thakur.

Remember the pre-WTC-final press conference where Kohli & Shastri had a hot mic incident. Kohli and Ravi didn't know they were live, they were discussing ongoing ENGvNZ match.

Kohli says- 'hum inko round the wicket dalwayenge, Left handers hai inke, Lala Siraj sabko start se hi laga denge.'
 
Nov15 said:
No, Siraj would’ve played over Thakur.

Remember the pre-WTC-final press conference where Kohli & Shastri had a hot mic incident. Kohli and Ravi didn't know they were live, they were discussing ongoing ENGvNZ match.

Kohli says- 'hum inko round the wicket dalwayenge, Left handers hai inke, Lala Siraj sabko start se hi laga denge.'
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and then he didnt play Siraj

what he says means nothing.Biggest flip flop ever.
 
Junaids said:
This series doesn’t count - it’s just a calendar filler after the main event.

The New Zealand Test was the only cricket match in 2021 which matters. Every other game is just trivial.
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You do know the is the next WTC cycle game to try play for the Championship again, right? If not, here's your education for the day.
 
Amazing!

I posted before I went to be at India only 25% to save the game, I gave them zero chances of winning it.

This must go as one of their greatest away victories.

Hats off to them.

Just watching the replays now- these guys are going to be rated as one of the great quick attacks if they keep this up...
 
Junaids said:
It’s just horrible scheduling. The WTC Final should have been the climax of the season, not near the beginning. (Which would have been fairer on India too).

It’s very hard to get excited about eating a McDonalds cheeseburger half an hour after having a three course meal.

I much prefer red ball cricket to white ball cricket and today was the first day of this series that I have even watched - and I didn’t watch Pakistan’s Test either.

After a World Cup Final - including a Test one - that format should not be played again that season. I’d rather watch England and India play T20’s or tiddlywinks.
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Its okay. You can watch and like what you want.
We like India winning matches in any format. Anyways we have IPL also coming in September/October so we will enjoy that as well.
Hopefully you enjoyed Indian victory yesterday.
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
Its okay. You can watch and like what you want.
We like India winning matches in any format. Anyways we have IPL also coming in September/October so we will enjoy that as well.
Hopefully you enjoyed Indian victory yesterday.
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I went to bed to be honest, I just can’t motivate myself to watch Test cricket so soon after the WTC Final.

I congratulate India on being able to motivate themselves to try to win these trivial little matches after the disappointment of being beaten WTC finalists.

And I have no respect for the ECB in scheduling such an anti-climactic and pointless series straight after the WTC Final.
 
Junaids said:
I went to bed to be honest, I just can’t motivate myself to watch Test cricket so soon after the WTC Final.

I congratulate India on being able to motivate themselves to try to win these trivial little matches after the disappointment of being beaten WTC finalists.

And I have no respect for the ECB in scheduling such an anti-climactic and pointless series straight after the WTC Final.
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As i said, no one is forcing you to watch so not sure why you have to motivate yourself.
I do not watch Pakistan matches much, let alone waking up late night as I don't care personally most of the time.
For us Indian victories matter, for you it may be something else.
 
hoshiarpurexpress said:
As i said, no one is forcing you to watch so not sure why you have to motivate yourself.
I do not watch Pakistan matches much, let alone waking up late night as I don't care personally most of the time.
For us Indian victories matter, for you it may be something else.
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To be honest I didn’t watch Pakistan’s Test either. I’m actually English, and I couldn’t be bothered to watch this series.

India can only beat whatever they are faced with. I congratulate them on motivating themselves to care about this silly little series.

India has done nothing wrong. I’m pleased for them.
 
Junaids said:
To be honest I didn’t watch Pakistan’s Test either. I’m actually English, and I couldn’t be bothered to watch this series.

India can only beat whatever they are faced with. I congratulate them on motivating themselves to care about this silly little series.

India has done nothing wrong. I’m pleased for them.
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Yes. As runs and Victories and England or Sri Lanka may not matter for other nations but I matters for India and Indians.

As it will help us get some vital points in WTC, maintain our test rankings at the top of the layer. So we will watch this series and more teams will also be really wanting to tour and play Test Cricket with India, as it is evident with India getting 4 and 5 test matches and playing minimum 3 Test Series with most nations.
 
So great to see Sam Curran being put in his place in this series so far.

He was the difference between both teams in 2018. We won't have lost that series but for him.
 
If they sort out batting weaknesses and choose in form players, I don't think we need to compromise with Jadeja as a spinner for Ashwin. Ashwin will make this bowling attack even more stronger.
 
Balthazar said:
If they sort out batting weaknesses and choose in form players, I don't think we need to compromise with Jadeja as a spinner for Ashwin. Ashwin will make this bowling attack even more stronger.
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Yeah, it's just to mask their own inefficiencies as batsmen, they are playing Jadeja as a specialist 'batsman'. Otherwise Ashwin is miles ahead of Jadeja as a spinner in overseas conditions.
 
As it is, Jadeja has taken just a single wicket (Southee) on this England trip.
 
MP2011 said:
Yeah, it's just to mask their own inefficiencies as batsmen, they are playing Jadeja as a specialist 'batsman'. Otherwise Ashwin is miles ahead of Jadeja as a spinner in overseas conditions.
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Yeah, especially Pujara and Rahane in the batting line-up. And Ashwin can be a threat to Root.
 
Wow, that was *fantastic*! Edge of the seat stuff all day, particularly from 2pm onwards.

One of the great Lord’s Test matches, and one of the finest of all Indian victories. Fully merited and deserved, and they were quite magical.

England pulverised on the final day by a brilliant team. Some positives to take from the game — the performances of Root, Bairstow, Buttler, Moeen, Wood, and Anderson — but greatly outweighed by the collective negatives, particularly Root’s disastrous captaincy, and the atrocious top order which is making Test matches simply unwinnable: that’s two draws and five losses in the last seven Test matches now, and no win since the beginning of February.

Many England fans were highly realistic about the balance of quality ahead of the series, and they predicted that India would win 2-1 or 3-1 (I went for 3-1 to India) — this is looking well on track, as I do think England will win one of the matches either to keep things interesting or as a consolation at least. Possibly at the Oval.

But it is patently obvious that even with England making changes then India have the better side here: better bowlers, better batters, better togetherness, better captaincy, better tactics, deeper team spirit, more experience, and the list goes on.

A particularly heavy defeat (the 1-3, a 0-3, or even a 0-4) would leave Joe Root under serious pressure to resign his captaincy.

Congratulations to India on the Test match win! :)
 
Balthazar said:
And Ashwin can be a threat to Root.
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Ashwin will be a threat to any good batsman as he has shown so many times in his career. Has great affinity to take out best opposition bats like Sanga, Smith, Stokes, Root etc.
 
Balthazar said:
If they sort out batting weaknesses and choose in form players, I don't think we need to compromise with Jadeja as a spinner for Ashwin. Ashwin will make this bowling attack even more stronger.
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Jadeja is scoring a 50 every 3 innings.He'll play entire series even if he goes wicketless.If anything he deserves a promotion

You drop the least performing batsman,which is not him
 
I can’t escape the thought that Root got suckered on the fifth morning. Should have brought up four slips and pitched the ball up. Shami and Bumrah would have been got out. Instead he treated it like a T20, trying to hold the runs down. He let the bowlers lose their heads too with Anderson grumping away. Kohli won the psychological battle and the match.
 
Robert said:
I can’t escape the thought that Root got suckered on the fifth morning. Should have brought up four slips and pitched the ball up. Shami and Bumrah would have been got out. Instead he treated it like a T20, trying to hold the runs down. He let the bowlers lose their heads too with Anderson grumping away. Kohli won the psychological battle and the match.
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I agree, India messed with the mentality of the England players and out-classed them in all departments.

Root made a big mistake and let the game slip out of his hand.

England is a very average test team nowadays, their openers are walking wickets for teams to exploit, and apart from Root, everyone is short of runs.

I would expect India to win this series, unless their top order stops giving good starts.
 
Robert said:
I can’t escape the thought that Root got suckered on the fifth morning. Should have brought up four slips and pitched the ball up. Shami and Bumrah would have been got out. Instead he treated it like a T20, trying to hold the runs down. He let the bowlers lose their heads too with Anderson grumping away. Kohli won the psychological battle and the match.
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It was quite foolish from Joe Root. Out of Root, Paine and Wiliamson , only KW played it smart. In such conditions, you just need to out skill us for longer periods of time as Williamson showed both in NZ and in the WTC final.

Dont turn it into a slugfest because this Indian team will put you on the mat faster than you could spell "rope-a-dope" . The Aussies actually have the attack to do that and they failed on 2 successive home tours .
 
What kind of pitch can we expect in Leeds?

ENG doctored with a green seamer at TB and that didn't pan out well. But for rain, India would probably be going 2-0 up into the 3rd test.

They did well to course correct and left a mostly lifeless deck at Lord's to negate India's pace bowling superiority. No joy.

Let's see what they serve up for the 3rd test. Their associate level batting makes it a bit of a conundrum for them.
 
Junaids said:
I went to bed to be honest, I just can’t motivate myself to watch Test cricket so soon after the WTC Final.

I congratulate India on being able to motivate themselves to try to win these trivial little matches after the disappointment of being beaten WTC finalists.

And I have no respect for the ECB in scheduling such an anti-climactic and pointless series straight after the WTC Final.
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Full test series is more important than a one-off test, especially if it is scheduled overseas. WTC format is flawed right now, you can't have a 2 year cycle with multiple 4 and 5 test series only for the winner to be decided by sudden death. Also top team from the cycle must get some advantage. NZ have done nothing to prove they are the best test side, played the final ahead of Australia because of lucky scheduling. They haven't drawn a test in India in their last 4 tours, can't challenge Bangladesh in Bangladesh today.

To be a top test side the only proof is how you do in places like India, NZ, England, Australia.
 
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Brilliant from India! And dare I say, a tactical win for Kohli? People keep talking about swagger and body language, all a load of nonsense, Kohli won the tactical battle...he has never not had swagger or body language.

Kohli realised he had enough runs on the board and attacked from ball one. Ishant did the simple trick of pushing everything into the batsman's stumps, making him play, especially Buttler. SIraj was a bit wider and Shami got the ball to talk just enough, while Bumrah...well he bowled ok and the number of wickets is greater reflection of what was happening at the other end. EIther way a great 4 man performance from a bowling line up which has desperately needed to win matches abroad.

Yet let us not forget what set up this one, a gritty, bull headed batting performance by India, guys who played ball after ball after ball. They batted like test batsmen, while the English batted like schoolboys.
 
India and England were involved in an intense and pulsating contest in the just-concluded second Test, at the Lord's Cricket Ground, London which ended on Monday (August 16). Being asked to bat first, India posted 364 riding on KL Rahul's 129 before Joe Root's 180 not out took England to 391, taking a slender 27-run lead.

India were down and out in the second essay, being reduced to 181-6 at stumps on Day 4, with their overall lead being only 154. Thus, it seemed like England would walk past India on the final day at Lord's and they started with a bang, removing both Rishabh Pant and Ishant Sharma in quick succession.

Nonetheless, the England team tried to get under the skin of Jasprit Bumrah and Mohammed Shami, particularly targetting Bumrah for his barrage of bouncers to James Anderson, and lost the plot trying to unsettle the Indian pacers. As a result, Bumrah-Shami stitched a memorable 89-run unbeaten stand for the ninth-wicket to take India to 298/8 declared, with a lead of 271.

Eventually, Root & Co. fell like nine pins in the end as they were bundled out for 120 against a charged-up Indian team in the final hour of the game. Former cricketer and cricket expert Geoffrey Boycott has, thus, slammed England for not relying on basics and erring with their tactics to lose the grip on the match when it was their game to lose.

In his column for The Telegraph, Boycott slammed Root-led England and said, "This Test match has proved two things. Firstly, if you are stupid you do not deserve to win Test matches. As much as we love Joe Root for his magnificent batting, he cocked up with his tactics. Secondly, England cannot keep relying on Joe for all their runs. There has to be an improvement from the top three very soon because it is getting beyond a joke," Geoffrey Boycott stated.

"Joe had been doing well with his field placings and captaincy but seeing Jasprit Bumrah at the crease was like a red rag to a bull. He encouraged Mark Wood to just pepper him with fast short balls. It is obvious the England captain and some of his players wanted payback for the working over Bumrah gave James Anderson in the first innings. Heated words were exchanged as England seemed more intent on hitting Bumrah and Mohammad Shami instead of getting them out," Geoffrey Boycott concluded.

The third Test gets underway at Headingley from August 25.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...ot-led-england-as-hosts-err-in-tactics/800024
 
James said:
Wow, that was *fantastic*! Edge of the seat stuff all day, particularly from 2pm onwards.

One of the great Lord’s Test matches, and one of the finest of all Indian victories. Fully merited and deserved, and they were quite magical.

England pulverised on the final day by a brilliant team. Some positives to take from the game — the performances of Root, Bairstow, Buttler, Moeen, Wood, and Anderson — but greatly outweighed by the collective negatives, particularly Root’s disastrous captaincy, and the atrocious top order which is making Test matches simply unwinnable: that’s two draws and five losses in the last seven Test matches now, and no win since the beginning of February.

Many England fans were highly realistic about the balance of quality ahead of the series, and they predicted that India would win 2-1 or 3-1 (I went for 3-1 to India) — this is looking well on track, as I do think England will win one of the matches either to keep things interesting or as a consolation at least. Possibly at the Oval.

But it is patently obvious that even with England making changes then India have the better side here: better bowlers, better batters, better togetherness, better captaincy, better tactics, deeper team spirit, more experience, and the list goes on.

A particularly heavy defeat (the 1-3, a 0-3, or even a 0-4) would leave Joe Root under serious pressure to resign his captaincy.

Congratulations to India on the Test match win! :)
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Thanks - yep was compelling viewing...
Just shows test cricket are the ultimate pinnacle in the sport
Cheers for your wishes...good sport
 
I haven't seen such a stunning and bold performance from a team against a top test team for quite a while. What a turnaround! Congratulations to all the Indians. Your team is out there to rule the cricket world for a long long time.
 
AMSS said:
What kind of pitch can we expect in Leeds?

ENG doctored with a green seamer at TB and that didn't pan out well. But for rain, India would probably be going 2-0 up into the 3rd test.

They did well to course correct and left a mostly lifeless deck at Lord's to negate India's pace bowling superiority. No joy.

Let's see what they serve up for the 3rd test. Their associate level batting makes it a bit of a conundrum for them.
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TB is always green, ever since Hadlee’s days at Notts. It’s all the rain they get up there.

Lord’s surprised me - it is usually a slow seamer. Why MCC produced that deadie when England have the world’s best seam bowler is beyond me.

Modern Headingley is usually chock full of runs with good bounce and carry.
 
There will be plenty of runs in the pitch at my local ground in Leeds.

We used to expect a tricky seaming track for Test matches at Headingley, which would reward quality and patient batting performances against the lateral movement on offer (and incidentally was also a graveyard for spin bowlers).

Nowadays however, it’s just a flat dry pitch, albeit with a bit of pace in it, and it is also worth picking a spinner for later on in the match.

Given the expected conditions, I see no objective reason why India cannot continue their dominance in this series after the teams have had their week off. Siraj, Shami, Bumrah, and Ishant are all looking excellent.

Although, there is some slight spiritual hope for England in the sense that Leeds has been the site of the wildly famous “Botham’s Headingley” and “Stokes’s Headingley” Tests in the past. Moreover, Root and Bairstow are both in form, and they are likely to put up a strong dual resistance with the bat on their home ground — they could potentially craft a big partnership together at some point.
 
James said:
There will be plenty of runs in the pitch at my local ground in Leeds.

We used to expect a tricky seaming track for Test matches at Headingley, which would reward quality and patient batting performances against the lateral movement on offer (and incidentally was also a graveyard for spin bowlers).

Nowadays however, it’s just a flat dry pitch, albeit with a bit of pace in it, and it is also worth picking a spinner for later on in the match.

Given the expected conditions, I see no objective reason why India cannot continue their dominance in this series after the teams have had their week off. Siraj, Shami, Bumrah, and Ishant are all looking excellent.

Although, there is some slight spiritual hope for England in the sense that Leeds has been the site of the wildly famous “Botham’s Headingley” and “Stokes’s Headingley” Tests in the past. Moreover, Root and Bairstow are both in form, and they are likely to put up a strong dual resistance with the bat on their home ground — they could potentially craft a big partnership together at some point.
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I expect that England will come hard at Indians this time. That bit of needling done by VK and Bumrah will have fired up the English team as well. They lost their heads while the match was on but this week of rest will allow them to draw up a strategy on better bowling and field placements.

Regarding Leeds, India and England have historically been even in victories. In 2002, India handed England an innings defeat. I wouldn't read too much into all that as Botham's Headingley and Stokes Headingley as well as India's Innings win of 2002 don't matter now. It was all in the past.
 
I was saying at start of match thread, india have very good chance to force a result, and bumrah will come good. And wicket of Root was a game changer. If he had stayed, england would have played out the remaining overs. Test cricket too good
 
VVS says this test win is on par with Gabba win.

I beg to differ. This win is special, all away wins are. However, that win was one for the ages, this win can't rival that feeling.
 
MP2011 said:
VVS says this test win is on par with Gabba win.

I beg to differ. This win is special, all away wins are. However, that win was one for the ages, this win can't rival that feeling.
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A series decider at Aus’s fort is obviously way ahead of this one.

That was a WC level happiness.
 
JaDed said:
A series decider at Aus’s fort is obviously way ahead of this one.

That was a WC level happiness.
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True, that win was something else. That's why I was really surprised to hear VVS saying this win is equal to that win. May be he went with the flow.
 
India are now only the second team ever to win a test match after declaring their innings after lunch on the final day.

NZ did this the only other time against SL in 1984.
 
MP2011 said:
VVS says this test win is on par with Gabba win.


I beg to differ. This win is special, all away wins are. However, that win was one for the ages, this win can't rival that feeling.
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True! Gabba was the biggest test win ever for India. I will even put 2001 Eden Gardens win against all odds against Australia, that Dravid and Laxman himself architected and turned around the series, to be bigger than this one.

Laxman is just feeling the proximity recency effect. That’s Ok.
 
Babbar said:
True! Gabba was the biggest test win ever for India. I will even put 2001 Eden Gardens win against all odds against Australia, that Dravid and Laxman himself architected and turned around the series, to be bigger than this one.

Laxman is just feeling the proximity recency effect. That’s Ok.
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I beg to differ. I think our Eden Gardens win was our best ever test win (despite coming at home) as it came when,

1) We were playing against arguably best ever test side which won 16 tests on the trot prior to that test,
2) We were following on,
3) Our talisman was dismissed cheaply in both the innings,
4) We were 0-1 down till that point.

As special as Gabba win was, I won't put it ahead of Eden Gardens win.
 
MP2011 said:
VVS says this test win is on par with Gabba win.

I beg to differ. This win is special, all away wins are. However, that win was one for the ages, this win can't rival that feeling.
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Yeah, absolutely.
Gabba was definitely far better win as it gave us a series victory and under very difficult conditions.
Lords was a special one too but impact wise it is just one test and the rest of the series still remains.
 
MP2011 said:
VVS says this test win is on par with Gabba win.

I beg to differ. This win is special, all away wins are. However, that win was one for the ages, this win can't rival that feeling.
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I agree, it's just recency bias and extreme exaggeration from VVS. Gabba victory was a near miracle, whereas England basically self destructed in 4th day with by letting India score 300 runs in 3rd innings. Australia is also a much stronger side at home.
 
Joseph Gomes said:
I agree, it's just recency bias and extreme exaggeration from VVS. Gabba victory was a near miracle, whereas England basically self destructed in 4th day with by letting India score 300 runs in 3rd innings. Australia is also a much stronger side at home.
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True. The Lord's victory isn't anywhere near Gabba win which was what you call a win against all odds, all possible odds! Period.
 
Sharjah 1998, Eden 2001, - 2007 and 2011 wc , 2021 Aus series.

those are my fav moments of Indian cricket.(seen live)

Lowest: 2007 Odi WC, 8-0 against Aus eng, home series loss to England.
 
MP2011 said:
I beg to differ. I think our Eden Gardens win was our best ever test win (despite coming at home) as it came when,

1) We were playing against arguably best ever test side which won 16 tests on the trot prior to that test,
2) We were following on,
3) Our talisman was dismissed cheaply in both the innings,
4) We were 0-1 down till that point.

As special as Gabba win was, I won't put it ahead of Eden Gardens win.
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Have to agree with you. 2001 Eden Gardens win against an all conquering Aussies was very special. Eden Gardens win and 1983 World Cup win would be up there for me followed by Gabba win.
 
The only reason I can think of why anyone would rate Gabba and Lords wins over Kolkota would be that the former two were complete team efforts. Almost everyone contributed to the win, especially Lords. Kolkota was basically three men army (Laxman, Dravid and Harbhajan). In fact the whole series was basically a four man army (add Tendulkar to above) vs mighty Aussies. It is rated highly for right reasons but it isn't a benchmark for a team performance
 
Sir Alex said:
The only reason I can think of why anyone would rate Gabba and Lords wins over Kolkota would be that the former two were complete team efforts. Almost everyone contributed to the win, especially Lords. Kolkota was basically three men army (Laxman, Dravid and Harbhajan). In fact the whole series was basically a four man army (add Tendulkar to above) vs mighty Aussies. It is rated highly for right reasons but it isn't a benchmark for a team performance
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Kolkata marked Indians dominance at Hime whereas Gabba marked it in away from home.
If Kolkata was played with 4 players Gabba was played with replacement players.
So that way I rate Gabba higher. It just happens that Kolkata was the first among many that are to come India’s way.

Lords was amazing but I am not rating the Lords test as best yet primarily because the series is not over and there are chances that India might lose the series afterall
 
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