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India (404 & 258/2d) defeat Bangladesh (150 & 324) by 188 runs to win the 1st Test

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IND 278/6 (90) CRR: 3.09
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Shreyas Iyer was unbeaten on 82 as India posted 278 for 6 on the opening day of the first Test match against Bangladesh at the Zahur Ahmed Chowdhury Stadium, Chattogram.

Earlier, Cheteshwar Pujara scored 90 runs, stitching a 149-run partnership with Shreyas Iyer for the fifth wicket. Taijul Islam claimed three wickets while Mehidy Hasan Miraz struck twice.

Khaled Ahmed got the remaining one wicket that fell on the first day. India's stand-in skipper KL Rahul had won the toss and opted to bat against the Shakib Al Hasan-led side. Regular India skipper Rohit Sharma misses the game due to a thumb injury therefore KL Rahul is captaining the side
 
Kohli averages 25 in tests during last 3 years.

Will anyone finally dare to kick him out of our test team? He is anyway leeching out on our LoI teams for long and has already mutilated them beyond recognition.
 
MP2011 said:
Kohli averages 25 in tests during last 3 years.

Will anyone finally dare to kick him out of our test team? He is anyway leeching out on our LoI teams for long and has already mutilated them beyond recognition.
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His PR team won't let our selectors drop him. His inning against Pakistan has added 3 more years to his career. :inti
 
Pollack said:
No vested interest. This is business. Nobody wants to watch Pujara bat while kohli will attract crowd even if he averages 20.
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Business is vested interest too, no?

As for Pujara not being watchable, what matters is if a team is winning or not.

If it's not winning, it's not watchable.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Kishan would have scored a daddy hundred here. He is a good replacement for Dhawan. Having watched top class Indian batsmen for so many years it seems the standards have fallen drastically. Scores of 40 something are called good performances. :inti
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Kishan in test r u serious? What pant have done wrong in test?
 
Rohit is yet to captain India in a test match since he became India's captain in all formats in 2021 and we are already approaching the end of 2022.
 
When Pujara retires, he will thank Rishabh Pant for helping him overcome the struggle he went due to lack of runs and form after 2018 Australia series.

His two knocks that he played vs Australia in 2020 or his knock vs England at home in first test or his knock today all have come in partnership with Pant who allows him to take that extra time required to settle himself while the scoreboard keeps moving due to Pant's aggressive batting and puts opposition under pressure. This has basically helped Pujara overcome his failures since 2019 and ensured his spot remain safe even now in 2022.

What Pant does for Pujara is exactly same as what Sehwag did for Dravid in 2000s and that is why both the partnerships complemented really well for India during their period.
 
KL Rahul is an impact test batsman. His impact less LOI career shouldn't be confused with his test career where he has helped India won test matches in England, South Africa and at home vs Australia.
 
Virat Kohli is non replaceable in tests. There is no test player in the country that can replace him today.

Gill has got his chances and he is yet to make his mark, Shaw is struggling with fitness, technical weakness and fielding due to which Eswaran has overtaken him for opener spot, Vihari has failed to make his mark too and Iyer seems a subcontinent track suited batsman. There is simply no replacement available for Kohli and hence one cannot raise any question against his place based on one failure.
 
Ab Fan said:
Virat Kohli is non replaceable in tests. There is no test player in the country that can replace him today.

Gill has got his chances and he is yet to make his mark, Shaw is struggling with fitness, technical weakness and fielding due to which Eswaran has overtaken him for opener spot, Vihari has failed to make his mark too and Iyer seems a subcontinent track suited batsman. There is simply no replacement available for Kohli and hence one cannot raise any question against his place based on one failure.
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Lol one failure. And him being irreplaceable!

So averaging 25 across 3 years is courtesy one failure! Well done, you'll surely excel in mathematics!
 
Cheteshwar Pujara & Rishabh Pant partnerships in Tests:

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MP2011 said:
Lol one failure. And him being irreplaceable!

So averaging 25 across 3 years is courtesy one failure! Well done, you'll surely excel in mathematics!
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Unfortunately we are not discussing mathematics here. Mathematics will tell you that Kumar Sangakkara is a better batsman than Sachin Tendulkar based on averages but that is not enough to make a conclusion.

Kohli's class is at another level to most batsman in the country and he has shown it time and again. There is simply no other batsman in the country who is anywhere close to the standards he has set for himself. Form and tough phases are part and parcel of life, even the legendary Messi was going through a rough patch couple of years ago and had decided to even take retirement but look where he is now, that's the class of GOATs.
 
Ab Fan said:
Virat Kohli is non replaceable in tests. There is no test player in the country that can replace him today.

Gill has got his chances and he is yet to make his mark, Shaw is struggling with fitness, technical weakness and fielding due to which Eswaran has overtaken him for opener spot, Vihari has failed to make his mark too and Iyer seems a subcontinent track suited batsman. There is simply no replacement available for Kohli and hence one cannot raise any question against his place based on one failure.
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Mayank is a better player of spin than Virat currently. He didn't deserve to get dropped because he's atleast a good player in Asian conditions.
 
India must groom Washington Sundar for middle order spot. He has shown good temperament and technique against spin and pace in his short career.
 
Ab Fan said:
Unfortunately we are not discussing mathematics here. Mathematics will tell you that Kumar Sangakkara is a better batsman than Sachin Tendulkar based on averages but that is not enough to make a conclusion.

Kohli's class is at another level to most batsman in the country and he has shown it time and again. There is simply no other batsman in the country who is anywhere close to the standards he has set for himself. Form and tough phases are part and parcel of life, even the legendary Messi was going through a rough patch couple of years ago and had decided to even take retirement but look where he is now, that's the class of GOATs.
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Then don't just cite this one failure, no?

At another level to all other budding Indian batsmen, right? How about at least giving them chance to prove themselves instead of comparing Kohli to Messi (which I think is such a poor comparison)?

How about giving a chance to Sarfaraz? How many runs does he need to make to get even a single chance in Indian team?

You may be fine with mediocrity in Indian team, I'm not. However, as things stand currently, mediocrity is indeed ruling the roost in Indian cricket and the same shows in our results over last 15 months or so.

So Kohli (and Rahul, Rohit, Dhawan etc) will keep leeching off Indian cricket for another few years.
 
Btw, even at the fag end of his career, Messi has led his team to reach the pinnacle of football WC. What has Kohli done for Indian team in world events even when he was at his pinnacle?
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Mayank is a better player of spin than Virat currently. He didn't deserve to get dropped because he's atleast a good player in Asian conditions.
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Kohli has always been ordinary against spin, save against Lyon and when England visited us in '16.
 
MP2011 said:
Then don't just cite this one failure, no?

At another level to all other budding Indian batsmen, right? How about at least giving them chance to prove themselves instead of comparing Kohli to Messi (which I think is such a poor comparison)?

How about giving a chance to Sarfaraz? How many runs does he need to make to get even a single chance in Indian team?

You may be fine with mediocrity in Indian team, I'm not. However, as things stand currently, mediocrity is indeed ruling the roost in Indian cricket and the same shows in our results over last 15 months or so.

So Kohli (and Rahul, Rohit, Dhawan etc) will keep leeching off Indian cricket for another few years.
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I didn't compared Kohli to Messi. Just an analogy in their respective sports. There won't be another Messi, although you can compare Kohli with Ronaldo, neither of the two I like personally.

We have a lot of mediocrity to work on, need to fix them first before we discuss about batsman who have shown their class and ability for so long and have been our best batsman for a decade with SENA average almost 10+ higher than anyone else from his team.
 
MP2011 said:
Lol one failure. And him being irreplaceable!

So averaging 25 across 3 years is courtesy one failure! Well done, you'll surely excel in mathematics!
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He is the same guy who said "we shouldn't try Umran, Kishan and Samson in ODIs before the world cup" two weeks later Kishan forced him to change his mind. :inti
 
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BD went with 2 pacers! Is this a spinning wicket. Even then need 3 pacers minimum for test!
 
Ab Fan said:
I didn't compared Kohli to Messi. Just an analogy in their respective sports. There won't be another Messi, although you can compare Kohli with Ronaldo, neither of the two I like personally.

We have a lot of mediocrity to work on, need to fix them first before we discuss about batsman who have shown their class and ability for so long and have been our best batsman for a decade with SENA average almost 10+ higher than anyone else from his team.
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How are you going to fix this mediocrity without even giving consistent chances to young players and resting non performing senior players? :inti
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
He is the same guy who said "we shouldn't try Umran, Kishan and Samson in ODIs before the world cup" two weeks later Kishan forced him to change his mind. :inti
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Backbiting??

Can you care to list your XI for ODI World Cup because if we play 50 players before the World Cup then how will we decide which XI should we select for the World Cup? How will we develop the best 15 players for the World Cup if we randomly pick one set of players in one series and then another set of players in another series? Or you are not gonna answer these questions and randomly enter a discussion and start back bitting just because someone has served you enough humiliations in your PP career that you are still not over it?

:inti
 
Ab Fan said:
I didn't compared Kohli to Messi. Just an analogy in their respective sports. There won't be another Messi, although you can compare Kohli with Ronaldo, neither of the two I like personally.

We have a lot of mediocrity to work on, need to fix them first before we discuss about batsman who have shown their class and ability for so long and have been our best batsman for a decade with SENA average almost 10+ higher than anyone else from his team.
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Poor analogy, if ever there was one.

Yeah, having a poor top order in all formats of the game is nothing to worry about.

Resting on past laurels? No wonder, we haven't won anything in last decade!
 
Ab Fan said:
Backbiting??

Can you care to list your XI for ODI World Cup because if we play 50 players before the World Cup then how will we decide which XI should we select for the World Cup? How will we develop the best 15 players for the World Cup if we randomly pick one set of players in one series and then another set of players in another series? Or you are not gonna answer these questions and randomly enter a discussion and start back bitting just because someone has served you enough humiliations in your PP career that you are still not over it?

:inti
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Lol at backbiting. I have said it on your face too. Go and read that thread first. You always run away with your tail between your legs when the going gets tough and when you are proven wrong. :rabada2

And where did we try 50 players? If some players are not performing then we shouldn't take them to the world cup just for the sake of it. Kishan, Umran, Samson, Gill all of them should get proper chances, this is what I said when you were laughing like an idiot. And don't talk about humiliations here when you are the one who keeps hiding away from me. :inti
 
If Kohli is our best batsman of last decade in SENA countries, give him life long pension instead of keep persevering with him in all formats under this garb.
 
MP2011 said:
Poor analogy, if ever there was one.

Yeah, having a poor top order in all formats of the game is nothing to worry about.

Resting on past laurels? No wonder, we haven't won anything in last decade!
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We should have also selected Shikhar Dhawan and Ajinkya Rahane for this test series against Bangladesh. :facepalm :inti
 
MP2011 said:
If Kohli is our best batsman of last decade in SENA countries, give him life long pension instead of keep persevering with him in all formats under this garb.
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Exactly. I don't get this hero worshipping. Your current form determines whether you are good enough to be playing or not. He never plays Ranji Trophy or Duleep Trophy. So he has no real practice against spin bowling, no real rhythm while playing on slow, low turning surfaces. Several domestic players are way better than him in these conditions
 
Shreyas Iyer received a massive slice of luck late on day one of the first Test against Bangladesh in Chattogram on Wednesday.

The Indian middle-order batter was on 77 when Ebadot Hossain breached his defence to hit the stumps. However, to Bangladesh's dismay, the bails failed to dislodge and rested back on the stumps, giving Iyer a life.

Shreyas Iyer had a slice of luck when Ebadot Hossain bowled him, but the bails failed to dislodgeShreyas Iyer had a slice of luck when Ebadot Hossain bowled him, but the bails failed to dislodge
According to Law 29.1 of the MCC Laws of cricket, the bail has to be fully dislodged for a batter to be given out.

29.1 The wicket is broken

The wicket is broken when at least one bail is completely removed from the top of the stumps, or one or more stumps is removed from the ground.

Incidentally, the bail was replaced only three balls earlier when it failed to light up, causing a delay in play. To Iyer's luck, it was this exact bail that failed to come off when Ebadot hit the stumps.

Bangladesh, however, managed a wicket in the very next over to break a solid 149-run partnership between Iyer and Cheteshwar Pujara. The latter was cleaned up by Taijul Islam with a sharp delivery that turned square and beat the defensive push by the Indian No.3 batter.

Axar Patel was dismissed off the final ball of the day to give Bangladesh a bit of relief. Iyer remained unbeaten on 82 at stumps with India six down for 278 at the close of play.

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Good comeback by India, thanks to woeful fielding by bangla tigers.

Expecting Ashwin and Axar to bundle them within 200.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
I have seen three times as far as i can remember where bails failed to dislodge.
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jnaveen1980 said:
Exactly. I don't get this hero worshipping. Your current form determines whether you are good enough to be playing or not. He never plays Ranji Trophy or Duleep Trophy. So he has no real practice against spin bowling, no real rhythm while playing on slow, low turning surfaces. Several domestic players are way better than him in these conditions
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Good point on playing domestic cricket.

This guy is so stubborn and egoistic that despite his pedestrian form of last 3 years he just doesn't play domestic cricket as if it's beneath his Himalayan sized ego.
 
"Not Bothered About Not Getting a Three-Figure Mark": Cheteshwar Pujara

Cheteshwar Pujara doesn't regret missing out on his 19th Test hundred in the first Test against Bangladesh as he would happily take his 90-run knock on a "difficult track" which he says will get worse by the day. Pujara along with Shreyas Iyer (82 batting) added 149 runs for the fifth wicket before India lost the dependable No. 3. All-rounder Axar Patel also fell in quick succession with Indian ending the opening day on 278 for 6. "It is not an easy pitch to bat on so I am really happy with the way I batted today. Sometimes more than three figure, you look at trying to put team in a winning situation," Pujara said at the post-match media conference.

Pujara hasn't scored a century for nearly four years but in recent times, this is probably the most assured he has looked against any bowling attack.
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"I am really happy today and not bothered about not getting a three-figure mark. I have been batting well and if I carry on like this, it will come soon," said the player, who is a month and half shy of his 35th birthday.

For Pujara, the track at the Zahur Ahmed Chowdhury Stadium is a result-oriented one with spinners set to play a big part in the final outcome.

"Looks like there will be a result and we needed runs on board. My partnership with Shreyas was important and also with Rishabh as there was a time when we had lost three wickets," Pujara said.

While he admitted that he might not have got too many runs but a first innings total of 350 could prove to be decisive.

"If we would have ended the day at 4 or even 5 wickets, things would have been better. I still feel if we get 350 in the first innings, it will be a good score on this track as there is turn (on offer) and we have three spinners.

"Even when fast bowlers are bowling, the odd one is staying low. It will keep getting worse as time progresses," Pujara said providing his take on the track.

The biggest challenge as the pitch wears on will be the variable bounce.

"There was variable bounce and odd ball was keeping low even with the second new ball. It is easy once the ball gets older as bowlers also get tired. They can't keep bowling same areas for longer time.

"We all know in case of Kookaburra, the first 30 overs are important. Once you get through that phase, it is still slightly easier. But still you need to concentrate hard," he added.

The worry for batters will be the odd ball that is turning sharply.

"It is not like all deliveries are turning. One ball per over is turning and that is even more dangerous. That odd ball that will turn back or away will get you leg before or bowled. You can't relax on this track," Pujara concluded.

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Low and slow pitch. Iyer’s weakness against short ball will not be exposed here. Ball is not bouncing above kneecap.

Take all these runs with a pinch of salt. He will struggle in SENA countries to score in Test cricket.
 
Champ_Pal said:
Low and slow pitch. Iyer’s weakness against short ball will not be exposed here. Ball is not bouncing above kneecap.

Take all these runs with a pinch of salt. He will struggle in SENA countries to score in Test cricket.
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Sort ball is one of the easier weaknesses to fix. But he is strong against spin, and for some reason we have been pathetic against spin lately. So, will take him for the home season.

Hopefully he can improve for the next SENA tours which is at least an year away.
 
A few short balls followed by a full delivery and Iyer is cleaned up.

This man needs to play domestic cricket and sort out his problems. Test cricket is not his cup of tea even though he scores 87 runs. Looked uncomfortable against short ball.
 
Sidilicious said:
Sort ball is one of the easier weaknesses to fix. But he is strong against spin, and for some reason we have been pathetic against spin lately. So, will take him for the home season.

Hopefully he can improve for the next SENA tours which is at least an year away.
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Opponents will not bowl spin to him. Imagine Starc, Cummins and Haz bowing to this guy. He will be laughed off the pitch. He can stick to ODI cricket.
 
Champ_Pal said:
Low and slow pitch. Iyer’s weakness against short ball will not be exposed here. Ball is not bouncing above kneecap.

Take all these runs with a pinch of salt. He will struggle in SENA countries to score in Test cricket.
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Stil so many chances( two dropped catch and bails not getting dislodged multiple times) and he got out at 86.. Not a very good inning considering his struggle with second new ball.
 
Champ_Pal said:
Opponents will not bowl spin to him. Imagine Starc, Cummins and Haz bowing to this guy. He will be laughed off the pitch. He can stick to ODI cricket.
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With this weakness, he won't stand a chance of performing vs Australia at home. He can score vs Lyon who is an off spinners by the way but Aussies won't feed Lyon to him for sure next year.
 
Kuldeep Yadav at No.7 is a joke. He should be 10 or 11. The tail is too long for India. Works against BD. But against England, Aus and SA, they will look like clowns.
 
Ab Fan said:
With this weakness, he won't stand a chance of performing vs Australia at home. He can score vs Lyon who is an off spinners by the way but Aussies won't feed Lyon to him for sure next year.
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How can selectors include this guy in Test cricket with such blatant weakness? Iyer is wasting away the debut of some youngster who is better than him.
 
Champ_Pal said:
Kuldeep Yadav at No.7 is a joke. He should be 10 or 11. The tail is too long for India. Works against BD. But against England, Aus and SA, they will look like clowns.
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He is batting at 9 not 7 .Thats fine but umesh is every good for slog so he should have came ahead of kuldeep at 9
 
Champ_Pal said:
How can selectors include this guy in Test cricket with such blatant weakness? Iyer is wasting away the debut of some youngster who is better than him.
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Gill should have been tried at 5 instead. Hopefully,in Australia, when Rohit and Rahul opens then Gill replaces Iyer at 5 because I don't see Iyer surviving whole series vs Aussies pacers.
 
MP2011 said:
Ashwin is so good down the order.
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Asian pitches bully..outside Asia, he is atrocious. From this generation, Kohli is head and shoulders above rest when it comes to SENA conditions.
 
Ab Fan said:
Asian pitches bully..outside Asia, he is atrocious. From this generation, Kohli is head and shoulders above rest when it comes to SENA conditions.
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So we should stop playing tests in Asia, right?
 
As for Kohli, he is done for close to 2 years now. Don't know why you like to flog the dead horse.
 
Ab Fan said:
Asian pitches bully..outside Asia, he is atrocious. From this generation, Kohli is head and shoulders above rest when it comes to SENA conditions.
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He is still valuable as an all rounder considering none of Indian bowlers can hold a bat.
 
Ab Fan said:
Gill should have been tried at 5 instead. Hopefully,in Australia, when Rohit and Rahul opens then Gill replaces Iyer at 5 because I don't see Iyer surviving whole series vs Aussies pacers.
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Hell no. Rohit is done in international cricket and is just being dragged by BCCI for him being nominated as captain in all formats while Rahul....Lets not start...
 
MP2011 said:
So we should stop playing tests in Asia, right?
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How did you concluded that?

Now, tell me what is bigger? Winning only in Asia or winning in Asia and overseas both? We used to win in Asia in 70s and 90s too. What did we improve with Ashwin's inclusion? :facepalm
 
MP2011 said:
Hell no. Rohit is done in international cricket and <B>is just being dragged by BCCI for him being nominated as captain in all formats</B> while Rahul....Lets not start...
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That means Rohit if fit will play.
 
MP2011 said:
Hell no. Rohit is done in international cricket and is just being dragged by BCCI for him being nominated as captain in all formats while Rahul....Lets not start...
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I agree. Rahul is not a new ball player in Test cricket. He knicks of way too often for an opener. he should come down the order. May be an attacking player to partner Gill.

Rohit is done. He is like Dhoni now. Dragging his career at the expense of Team.
 
Ab Fan said:
How did you concluded that?

Now, tell me what is bigger? Winning only in Asia or winning in Asia and overseas both? We used to win in Asia in 70s and 90s too. What did we improve with Ashwin's inclusion? :facepalm
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Ashwin wasn't played in a single test in England test series.

So we should forget about winning in Asia? And how far is our next test outside Asia? One year from now? Should we start preparing for that test and forget about whole lot of tests we'll be playing in Asia before that?
 
Champ_Pal said:
He is still valuable as an all rounder considering none of Indian bowlers can hold a bat.
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In Asian pitches, yes!

Outside Asia, No. We struggled for 4th innings wickets in South Africa which costed us the series after leading 1-0.
 
MP2011 said:
Ashwin wasn't played in a single test in England test series.

So we should forget about winning in Asia? And how far is our next test outside Asia? One year from now? Should we start preparing for that test and forget about whole lot of tests we'll be playing in Asia before that?
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Ashwin wasn't played because he was outperformed by a mediocre Thakur, that is how bad he was. In Jadeja's absence, we struggled for 4th innings wickets vs SA in SA which costed us the series after leading 1-0. Ashwin is the one to blame for that being an experienced campaigner.

We should all stand and deserve standing ovation to Kohli and Shastri for not considering Ashwin in England inspite of Ashwin trying to become an attention seeker by posting irrelevant stuffs in Twitter indicating he has no work to do but just sit on shades. :91:
 
Ab Fan said:
In Asian pitches, yes!

Outside Asia, No. We struggled for 4th innings wickets in South Africa which costed us the series after leading 1-0.
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It’s the pacers failure. Ashwin is not suited for SENA conditions, but so is Jaddu and rest of the pie throwers.
At least Ashwin can survive a few overs and become a reliable partner for some middle order batsman. Same goes for Jaddu. Rest of the spinners and pacers can be bundled out in under 5 overs.
This is the reason why England wins. They bat deep and give the top and middle order batsmen the freedom to play attacking cricket. India must look to emulate them as much as they can.
 
Kohli, Pant, Jadeja and Bumrah have been the only major warriors as far as India's test success overseas is concerned in last 5 years. Ashwin had been great in Asia but atrocious overseas.
 
Ab Fan said:
Ashwin wasn't played because he was outperformed by a mediocre Thakur, that is how bad he was. In Jadeja's absence, we struggled for 4th innings wickets vs SA in SA which costed us the series after leading 1-0. Ashwin is the one to blame for that being an experienced campaigner.

We should all stand and deserve standing ovation to Kohli and Shastri for not considering Ashwin in England inspite of Ashwin trying to become an attention seeker by posting irrelevant stuffs in Twitter indicating he has no work to do but just sit on shades. :91:
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lol in Jadeja's absence. Jadeja is even worse in away tests as a spinner.
 
Ab Fan said:
Kohli, Pant, Jadeja and Bumrah have been the only major warriors as far as India's test success overseas is concerned in last 5 years. Ashwin had been great in Asia but atrocious overseas.
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So PuRane and Ashwin played no part in our series win in Australia in '20-21!

Well done on your cricketing knowledge.
 
Champ_Pal said:
It’s the pacers failure. Ashwin is not suited for SENA conditions, but so is Jaddu and rest of the pie throwers.
At least Ashwin can survive a few overs and become a reliable partner for some middle order batsman. Same goes for Jaddu. Rest of the spinners and pacers can be bundled out in under 5 overs.
This is the reason why England wins. They bat deep and give the top and middle order batsmen the freedom to play attacking cricket. India must look to emulate them as much as they can.
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Indeed. That series loss is on Bumrah & Shami especially the former. Ashwin too can't go blameless but those 4th/5th day pitches were tailormade for Bumrah to win us that series but he couldn't.
 
Champ_Pal said:
It’s the pacers failure. Ashwin is not suited for SENA conditions, but so is Jaddu and rest of the pie throwers.
At least Ashwin can survive a few overs and become a reliable partner for some middle order batsman. Same goes for Jaddu. Rest of the spinners and pacers can be bundled out in under 5 overs.
This is the reason why England wins. They bat deep and give the top and middle order batsmen the freedom to play attacking cricket. India must look to emulate them as much as they can.
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Kumble was great in 1992 in South Africa. Jadeja took a 6-fer in South Africa but Ashwin has nothing to show in SA. He has never picked a 5-fer in SENA and never won India a test match there too.

Great bowlers will find a way of winning test matches in alien conditions. Ashwin hasn't. If you are happy with the mediocrity of Ashwin then it is upto you but I have always been disappointed with his performance in SENA. Even Kuldeep picked a 5-fer in Sydney in 2018 don't forget.
 
Ab Fan said:
Kohli, Pant, Jadeja and Bumrah have been the only major warriors as far as India's test success overseas is concerned in last 5 years. Ashwin had been great in Asia but atrocious overseas.
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Did you forget Ashwin's role in 2021 Australia series
 
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