India (404 & 258/2d) defeat Bangladesh (150 & 324) by 188 runs to win the 1st Test

[Ab Fan]

So PuRane and Ashwin played no part in our series win in Australia in '20-21!

Well done on your cricketing knowledge.

What did Ashwin do there? Please highlight. We were talking about Ashwin. He didn't played in Gabba.

Sundar played instead and won us that test match by playing an important role with both bat and bowl.

All Sundar needed was one game to outperform Ashwin overseas. Jadeja outperformed Ashwin in Sydney too by picking 4 wickets while Ashwin went wicketless there.

 

[Ab Fan]

Indeed. That series loss is on Bumrah & Shami especially the former. Ashwin too can't go blameless but those 4th/5th day pitches were tailormade for Bumrah to win us that series but he couldn't.

You may be happy with Ashwin's mediocrity but the standards are higher for me and as per my benchmark- Kohli, Bumrah, Pant and Jadeja all have done better than Ashwin overseas. 1-2 performances in 10 games isn't enough to cover up the mediocrity.

 

[MP2011]

Now Kuldeep reverse sweeps one to the boundary!

 

[MP2011]

What did Ashwin do there? Please highlight. We were talking about Ashwin. He didn't played in Gabba.

Sundar played instead and won us that test match by playing an important role with both bat and bowl.

All Sundar needed was one game to outperform Ashwin overseas. Jadeja outperformed Ashwin in Sydney too by picking 4 wickets while Ashwin went wicketless there.

So only Gabba mattered in that series?

We'd have lost SCG test if not for Ashwin's (and Vihari/Pujara's) heroics!

 

[MP2011]

You may be happy with Ashwin's mediocrity but the standards are higher for me and as per my benchmark- Kohli, Bumrah, Pant and Jadeja all have done better than Ashwin overseas. 1-2 performances in 10 games isn't enough to cover up the mediocrity.

Same Kohli who is averaging 25 over last 3 years in test cricket?

Same Jadeja & Bumrah who go AWOL whenever they feel like?

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Bangladesh against India is similar to Afghanistan against Pakistan. Will get hammered by just about every other team, but against that particular team they will compete like giants.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

You may be happy with Ashwin's mediocrity but the standards are higher for me and as per my benchmark- Kohli, Bumrah, Pant and Jadeja all have done better than Ashwin overseas. 1-2 performances in 10 games isn't enough to cover up the mediocrity.

Bro, are you being serious? Say what you will about Ashwin's limited-overs career but he is an elite test match spinner...arguably the best in the world whose track-record of consistency speaks for itself. He is the one who played one of the most important roles in India's Australia series victory by regularly getting the wickets of Australia's most dangerous batter: Steve Smith. It is because Ashwin kept him quiet all series that India rarely felt his wrath the same way that they did in 2014/15.

 

[Ab Fan]

Same Kohli who is averaging 25 over last 3 years in test cricket?

Same Jadeja & Bumrah who go AWOL whenever they feel like?

Ashwin also go AWOL whenever they feel like. We saw how awful he was in T20 World Cup.

Atleast Kohli and Bumrah performed in overseas tests. Ashwin has gone AWOL there also.

 

[MP2011]

So only Gabba mattered in that series?

We'd have lost SCG test if not for Ashwin's (and Vihari/Pujara's) heroics!

If not for Rahane & Ashwin (and Bumrah & Jadeja), we'd have lost MCG test too immediately after 36 all out at Adelaide. That's when Kohli chose to leave the sinking ship.

 

[MP2011]

Bro, are you being serious? Say what you will about Ashwin's limited-overs career but he is an elite test match spinner...arguably the best in the world whose track-record of consistency speaks for itself. He is the one who played one of the most important roles in India's Australia series victory by regularly getting the wickets of Australia's most dangerous batter: Steve Smith. It is because Ashwin kept him quiet all series that India rarely felt his wrath the same way that they did in 2014/15.

This. If someone is arguing against Ashwin, the test player just because he didn't play (due to him being peppered by Starc & co in the previous test which Ashwin saved against all odds in company of Vihari) at decider in Gabba then it means he knows nothing about that series.

 

[Ab Fan]

So only Gabba mattered in that series?

We'd have lost SCG test if not for Ashwin's (and Vihari/Pujara's) heroics!

In SCG game, Pujara, Jadeja and Pant played bigger role than Ashwin did. Ashwin went AWOL with bowl there like he had all his career in SENA. Jadeja saved us as he ensured Australia collapse from 204-1 from 330 all out with 4 wickets and a run out.

What cricketing knowledge you have? Do you even remember the game?

 

[MP2011]

Ashwin also go AWOL whenever they feel like. We saw how awful he was in T20 World Cup.

Atleast Kohli and Bumrah performed in overseas tests. Ashwin has gone AWOL there also.

Well done on invoking mickey mouse cricket in a discussion concerning test cricket. Means you don't have any argument left!

Thank you!

 

[MP2011]

In SCG game, Pujara, Jadeja and Pant played bigger role than Ashwin did. Ashwin went AWOL with bowl there like he had all his career in SENA. Jadeja saved us as he ensured Australia collapse from 204-1 from 330 all out with 4 wickets and a run out.

What cricketing knowledge you have? Do you even remember the game?

For all they did in that test, we'd have still comfortably lost that test with a session to spare if not for Vihari & Ashwin taking blows on their bodies for entire session.

This is what your cricketing knowledge tells you?

 

[Ab Fan]

It is a myth that Ashwin saved us Sydney test. Here is the link, look at his bowling figures:-

https://m.cricbuzz.com/live-cricket...-ind-3rd-test-india-tour-of-australia-2020-21

Ashwin 0-74
Jadeja 4-62

This is what they did in first inning in Sydney. Just because Ashwin managed to block one session with Vihari, people think it is Ashwin who saved us that test.


[MENTION=147527]MP2011[/MENTION] [MENTION=147292]RedwoodOriginal[/MENTION]

Tell me know about the Sydney figures:-

Ashwin 0-74
Jadeja 4-62

 

[Blackbradman]

Two spinners frustrating Bangladesh team with their Anti Bazball approach

 

[sweep_shot]

Bangladesh against India is similar to Afghanistan against Pakistan. Will get hammered by just about every other team, but against that particular team they will compete like giants.

BD do not get hammered at home. Only Pakistan hammered them at home. Other sides either lost or had to work hard for their wins.

Again, I am referring to home performances of last 5 years. They are obviously very ordinary when they play away.

 

[sweep_shot]

India - 331/7.

I think Bangladesh would take this. Chittagong tend to be a good batting track.

 

[sweep_shot]

Shakib only bowled 12 overs out of 115 overs. Why?

 

[sweep_shot]

India's run-rate: 2.91.

Kind of slow.

 

[Champ_Pal]

India's run-rate: 2.91.

Kind of slow.

They are trying to get to 350 first. If Kuldeep gets out, Ashwin will go into God mode

 

[Champ_Pal]

Shakib only bowled 12 overs out of 115 overs. Why?

Commie was saying he may be nursing some injury.

 

[Ab Fan]

It is a myth that Ashwin saved us Sydney test. Here is the link, look at his bowling figures:-

https://m.cricbuzz.com/live-cricket...-ind-3rd-test-india-tour-of-australia-2020-21

Ashwin 0-74
Jadeja 4-62

This is what they did in first inning in Sydney. Just because Ashwin managed to block one session with Vihari, people think it is Ashwin who saved us that test.


[MENTION=147527]MP2011[/MENTION] [MENTION=147292]RedwoodOriginal[/MENTION]

Tell me know about the Sydney figures:-

Ashwin 0-74
Jadeja 4-62

Adding further to this,

Washington Sundar got Smith out too in Gabba and scored a lot more useful runs helping his team win the game. All he needed was one game to deliver that match winning performance which Ashwin lacked in SENA.

Stats in Australia:

Ashwin bat AVG 24, bowl AVG 42
Jadeja bat AVG 45, Bowl AVG 23

Jadeja has a 6-fer in South Africa and a hundred in decider in England alongwith a match winning spell in Oval.

Ashwin has nothing to show in South Africa except the two times he failed to pick 4th inning wickets in 2022 tour which costed us the series 2-1. He also failed to pick 4th innings wicket way back in 2014 when South Africa were chasing 458 and ABD-Faf were inching close to chasing that total.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Darters will get lot of wickets on this pitch. Ball is keeping low quite a bit. Axar will enjoy this pitch.

 

[MP2011]

Kuldeep growing in confidence.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Match slowly drifting away from BD. I feel it’s already out of their reach. 350 will be a very good first innings score. India in drivers seat.

 

[sweep_shot]

Commie was saying he may be nursing some injury.

I see.

He shouldn't have played then. Another spinner could've played.

 

[sweep_shot]

India - 348/7 (120 overs).

Lunch.

 

[dravidthewall]

Good 55 runs partnership between kuldeep and ashwin . One stage India looks like allout for 300 or 310.

 

[Champ_Pal]

I see.

He shouldn't have played then. Another spinner could've played.

He will walk into BD team just on his batting alone.

 

[SamNJ]

India playing anti-bazball cricket. The turn is on slow side it seems. Can be negotiable.

 

[jnaveen1980]

playing 1970s cricket

 

[MP2011]

playing 1970s cricket

If it helps us winning this test then why not?

Not every team is capable of playing Bazball especially on such low and slow pitches with so many passengers!

 

[MP2011]

Let’s see if Ashwin can score a 50 and drag India to 350.

350 crossed.

 

[MP2011]

If it helps us winning this test then why not?

Not every team is capable of playing Bazball especially on such low and slow pitches with so many passengers!

Besides, batting positively rests on the batsmen not on the tailenders. Our top order is shockingly poor for us to even think of doing bazball on our opposition.

 

[sweep_shot]

Ashwin is on 49*.

India - 360/7 (122.2 overs).

 

[sweep_shot]

50 for Ashwin.

 

[dravidthewall]

50 for ashwin . Well played

 

[MP2011]

50 for Ashwin.

Well done.

 

[Msd_7]

Most 50+ scores for India at no.8 in Tests:

13 - Kapil Dev
9 - R Ashwin
8 - Ravindra Jadeja

#BANvIND

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Ashwin 57* and Kuldeep 34*

 

[dravidthewall]

Umesh Six

 

[MenInG]

Guys please just dont post scores - need some comments/analysis also

 

[Devadwal]

9 down . hopefully siraj give strike to umesh so we can see 2,-3 six

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

India playing anti-bazball cricket. The turn is on slow side it seems. Can be negotiable.

This is what KL said before the match:

“There is a Test championship (final) qualification so we will also have to be aggressive. We know where we stand and what we need to do to qualify for the final," Rahul had said during the media interaction.

And this was Karthik's response:

However, India wicketkeeper-batter Dinesh Karthik completely disagreed with Rahul's statement and said that Team India cannot adapt to England's 'Bazball' style as the pitch at Chattogram is slow, which makes it difficult for the batters to show their attacking side.

“For me, as I said, it is very evident that these are kind of wickets that sometimes end up not producing a result. As the Test match carries on, the wear and tear makes it slow. If the quality of the batsmanship is not great, you will end up seeing batsmen make mistakes. If your temperament is strong, you won't need a great technique to stay at the wicket. For starters, India cannot play the Bazball kind of cricket because right now, it's not a part of our DNA to do something like that," said Karthik on Cricbuzz.

https://sports.ndtv.com/bangladesh-...es-with-kl-rahuls-aggressive-approach-3607391

 

[jnaveen1980]

133 overs bowled primarily with just 4 bowlers. Ebadot has picked up a niggle seemingly. Either that or he is taking res. Been a while since he bowled. Marathon spell by Taijul. Low bounce continues happening from time to time. You have to be watchful.

 

[dravidthewall]

400 up for india . Another six umesh

 

[Devadwal]

Sira should have take a single instead of slogging as Umesh has power to clear any rope

 

[jnaveen1980]

11 batsmen have batted. Lowest scorer is Kohli lol Must be a special humiliation for him.

 

[Suleiman]

Bangladesh have such an intense mental block Vs India. Every time they’re in a winning position they throw it away. Saw the same pattern in the ODI series despite winning

 

[Sidilicious]

The next 45 minutes till tea will be key. We get a couple of wickets and I think we can get them all by lunch tomorrow.

They stick around till tea and not lose any wicket, Bangladesh can bat out till the end of day 3, and give them a chance of a draw.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Good total by India eventually. Need to blast them out quickly. Bat at a frenetic pace to add 200-250 odd more and give bowlers enough time bowl then out again . This pitch tends to flatten out .

 

[MP2011]

Siraj gets one first ball.

 

[MP2011]

11 batsmen have batted. Lowest scorer is Kohli lol Must be a special humiliation for him.

Not only that. He also wasted a review to hide his inefficiency.

 

[MP2011]

That was good low catch by Pant.

 

[MP2011]

Another one bites dust.

 

[MP2011]

Bangladesh have such an intense mental block Vs India. Every time they’re in a winning position they throw it away. Saw the same pattern in the ODI series despite winning

BD have never been competitive against us in tests, save their first ever test when they scored over 400 in their first innings.

 

[gani999]

Wow, 2 wickets down already and the score is yet to touch two digits. Well done, India!

 

[Sidilicious]

If Bilal was a Hindu, he would say, I hope Bangladesh lose badly, but Litton scores a century.

 

[Suleiman]

BD have never been competitive against us in tests, save their first ever test when they scored over 400 in their first innings.

Y’all are in their head in all 3 formats. The 2016 t20 game is the biggest Eg. This recent ODI series also looked chokeable in games BD looked to have an upper hand.

Not to say Pakistan doesn’t have a block Vs India these days, but BD’s is on another level.

 

[MP2011]

Siraj getting flayed by Litton.

 

[MP2011]

Y’all are in their head in all 3 formats. The 2016 t20 game is the biggest Eg. This recent ODI series also looked chokeable in games BD looked to have an upper hand.

Not to say Pakistan doesn’t have a block Vs India these days, but BD’s is on another level.

I'd say, we choked in the ODI series, not them!

However, I agree with you overall.

 

[MP2011]

Y’all are in their head in all 3 formats. The 2016 t20 game is the biggest Eg. This recent ODI series also looked chokeable in games BD looked to have an upper hand.

Not to say Pakistan doesn’t have a block Vs India these days, but BD’s is on another level.

We have similar mental block against NZ.

 

[MP2011]

2 4s in Ashwin's first over.

Aggressive intent shown by these 2, augurs well for us.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

BD do not get hammered at home. Only Pakistan hammered them at home. Other sides either lost or had to work hard for their wins.

Again, I am referring to home performances of last 5 years. They are obviously very ordinary when they play away.

When was the last time Bangladesh won a series at home against even a half decent test side? From what I recall they have lost home series to a team like Afghanistan that started playing test cricket 4 years ago. They drew series against West Indies and Zimbabwe. And while they have managed to cause upsets in singular matches against England and Australia, they have not been able to close series.

I think only Pakistan rivals Bangladesh at this point at being absolute garbage in their home conditions.

 

[daytrader]

Ban 37/2 (10 ov)

Day 2, Session 2: Ban trail by 367 runs

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

It is a myth that Ashwin saved us Sydney test. Here is the link, look at his bowling figures:-

https://m.cricbuzz.com/live-cricket...-ind-3rd-test-india-tour-of-australia-2020-21

Ashwin 0-74
Jadeja 4-62

This is what they did in first inning in Sydney. Just because Ashwin managed to block one session with Vihari, people think it is Ashwin who saved us that test.


[MENTION=147527]MP2011[/MENTION] [MENTION=147292]RedwoodOriginal[/MENTION]

Tell me know about the Sydney figures:-

Ashwin 0-74
Jadeja 4-62

When did I even mention the Sydney test? I was talking about his performance throughout the series. A series in which he got Steve Smith thrice. And a series in which he took 12 wickets at 28.3, which is nothing short of incredible for an Asian spinner in Australia.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

This. If someone is arguing against Ashwin, the test player just because he didn't play (due to him being peppered by Starc & co in the previous test which Ashwin saved against all odds in company of Vihari) at decider in Gabba then it means he knows nothing about that series.

From what I recall, watching the documentary series about this series (no pun intended), Ashwin was injured/having spasms which is why he didn't play.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Liton Das is the most exciting prospect in this Bangladesh side. Perhaps the only young player who has the potential to be truly world-class.

 

[MP2011]

From what I recall, watching the documentary series about this series (no pun intended), Ashwin was injured/having spasms which is why he didn't play.

Absolutely correct. It was not that he was dropped or something from the decider.

However, we can't complain. His replacement Sundar, gave a very good account of himself in that test and helped us winning that test and series.

 

[MP2011]

Siraj bowls Litton.

 

[dravidthewall]

Siraj Strikes. Litton gone

 

[MP2011]

Liton Das is the most exciting prospect in this Bangladesh side. Perhaps the only young player who has the potential to be truly world-class.

He may be that but these pretty 20s and 30s won't cut in tests.

 

[dravidthewall]

Mohamad siraj strikes . Indian best all format bowler.

 

[Msd_7]

Siraj on fire

 

[MP2011]

Siraj gets his 3rd wickets.

 

[Ab Fan]

When did I even mention the Sydney test? I was talking about his performance throughout the series. A series in which he got Steve Smith thrice. And a series in which he took 12 wickets at 28.3, which is nothing short of incredible for an Asian spinner in Australia.

Jadeja has a career average of 23 in Australia, what would you call that then? A series average of 28 is not anything exceptional. Yes he did well in that series but overall career his record is not good in SENA.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

They are going to lose by an inning it seems.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

So Ashwin 39*(128) didn't save the sydney test? Who saved it then?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Jadeja has a career average of 23 in Australia, what would you call that then? A series average of 28 is not anything exceptional. Yes he did well in that series but overall career his record is not good in SENA.

Good to know that you are looking at overall career record in SENA. I was under the impression that you only care about stats in Australia and ignore performances in NZ, SA and Eng.

 

[dravidthewall]

kuldeep looks threatening.