India close Day 2 on 54/1, 249 runs ahead after bowling England out for 134 in 2nd Test in Chennai

[sensible-indian-fan]

And that 4-1 was lot closer than it looks.

Imagine Rahane in that series.

Kohli has to go man.

 

[Ab Fan]

England should try Broad from other end. They haven't shown any faith on him.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

IMO we'll brush aside England easy. They don't have enough fuel in the tank to last these long series in Ind/Aus beyond a solitary win or draw here or there.

Maybe but we shouldn't underestimate them.

Especially that Anderson.

We gotta be ruthless.

 

[Mesozoic]

Impressive, we pretty much beat this India team to a pulp in 2018 4-1

"We".... )

 

[MP2011]

Imagine Rahane in that series.

Kohli has to go man.

Yeah. One thing is for certain. It won't have been 4-1 for sure.

 

[Manunited18]

At home on doctored pitches and with a Dukes ball in hand. Big deal. Let's see what England do in the Ashes later this year.

When were they doctored pitches, no England test pitches were exploding after the ball pitched on the first day of play.

 

[MP2011]

Maybe but we shouldn't underestimate them.

Especially that Anderson.

We gotta be ruthless.

Yeah. Anything less than 3-1 will be counted as a failure on our part.

 

[Varun]

When were they doctored pitches, no England test pitches were exploding after the ball pitched on the first day of play.

They were doctored enough for Anderson to play all tests, and not chicken out like in this one.

 

[Saurav]

Imagine Rahane in that series.

Kohli has to go man.

Still remember Pujara dropped in first 2 Tests

Comes back to score a ton in Southampton

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Impressive, we pretty much beat this India team to a pulp in 2018 4-1

True. And in 2016?

 

[Belawal2014]

Match is going to be over within 3 days. Pretty poor pitch by any standards tbh.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

When were they doctored pitches, no England test pitches were exploding after the ball pitched on the first day of play.

England make pitches to suit their strengths. Pitches that offer seam movement throughout have been the norm for a few years now We all know what happens to English bowlers on true wickets with a kookaburra in hand. And it's not like England cant make batting wickets. In the 2005-2014 period, the pitches were consistently batter friendly. And England lost 4 series at home in that period. So much for preparing and doing well on sporting pitches.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Still remember Pujara dropped in first 2 Tests

Comes back to score a ton in Southampton

And a match winning 70 in Trent Bridge I think.

 

[PassionForPak]

It'll go to day 4 in any case with india batting 1-2 session or entire day or England batting 3rd session and goes to full day.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

And a match winning 70 in Trent Bridge I think.

The match winning innings were played by Kohli (102 and 98) Pujara's knock was a good support knock much like kohlis 83 at mcg.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Still remember Pujara dropped in first 2 Tests

Comes back to score a ton in Southampton

That was totally justified.
Pujara was awful in south africa and averaged in teens in county cricket.

Once India dropped Sehwag bcoz his away outputs weren't good enough.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

For me as long as the bounce is even, dont care if it spins from day one first ball. If you cant play the spinning ball, your skills are not up to it. The key is even bounce. And having said that 1-4 in 2018 was super close and another day, it could very easily have been 2-2. Lastly, 2016 -4-0 was a much more comprehensive towelling on wickets that had regular scores of 300/350 + which shows they were not rank turners. The problem is the same old tired perception and narrative that we 'prepeare/doctor/sabotage' bunsen mambas....And this perception/imagery will take a few gen to fade away...

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

That was totally justified.
Pujara was awful in south africa and averaged in teens in county cricket.

Once India dropped Sehwag bcoz his away outputs weren't good enough.

Pujara helped us win the 3rd test in SA just before the tour. Played a critical role.

And he was really really solid in first test there on a dangerous pitch.

Was the most assured bat of the lot in that test (before Kohli masterclass in 2nd test).

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

The match winning innings were played by Kohli (102 and 98) Pujara's knock was a good support knock much like kohlis 83 at mcg.

Of course Kohli was the star.

The point is that he did well in 2 tests in that tour.

 

[Robert]

Excellent cricket by India and especially Rohit making hay when the wicket was tamer.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Match will go to day 4. India would like to declare with a lead of atleast 400 if we don't get bowled out.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

gee whiz...windies bt Bangladesh....2-0 ..amazing...

 

[Saurav]

That was totally justified.
Pujara was awful in south africa and averaged in teens in county cricket.

Once India dropped Sehwag bcoz his away outputs weren't good enough.

But Pujara was dropped for Dhawan

 

[PassionForPak]

This was not the first time that umpire gave call for no shot offered.
Same thing happened in 2018, Southampton, England.
Coincidentally, its Root and Moin Ali vs pujara.

 

[Manunited18]

England make pitches to suit their strengths. Pitches that offer seam movement throughout have been the norm for a few years now We all know what happens to English bowlers on true wickets with a kookaburra in hand. And it's not like England cant make batting wickets. In the 2005-2014 period, the pitches were consistently batter friendly. And England lost 4 series at home in that period. So much for preparing and doing well on sporting pitches.

That's not true, due to the inconsistent nature of the weather even in the summer period the conditions rather than the wickets are what you have to get used to, a good covering of grass on a hot day at old Trafford won't mean swing and seam but will be a true batting belter, yet a wicket with a good covering of grass on a overcast day will be tricky.

 

[Varun]

It'll go to day 4 in any case with india batting 1-2 session or entire day or England batting 3rd session and goes to full day.

We'll either be bowled out or declare 15 overs out from close of play tomorrow.

 

[Manunited18]

They were doctored enough for Anderson to play all tests, and not chicken out like in this one.

Anderson is 38, England have to manage his workload.

Anderson chickening out? Surely you are trolling when you accuse a All time Great whose Longevity will never be matched again.

 

[Varun]

When were they doctored pitches, no England test pitches were exploding after the ball pitched on the first day of play.

Schedule an appointment with your local MP and petition to never have England tour on those evil Indian or Australian pitches again. Dukes ball only.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Ashwin is a fantastic bowler. Variations in his bowling are stunning.

 

[sweep_shot]

India are looking good to win this game by a big margin.

 

[Robert]

When were they doctored pitches, no England test pitches were exploding after the ball pitched on the first day of play.

“Doctored pitches” which previous generations of Indian batters scored zillions on.

India’s problem in England is that, apart from Kohli, they don’t have the skills to score in England in damp air.

 

[Manunited18]

“Doctored pitches” which previous generations of Indian batters scored zillions on.

India’s problem in England is that, apart from Kohli, they don’t have the skills to score in England in damp air.

Yep, on a another note when Johnny bairstow zak Crawley back?

 

[Yk313]

A lot of cross-border whining about IND having pitches to suit their own strengths.

People from this side especially appear to have forgotten how PAK tried the same, and even succeeded to a degree, when SAF was touring.

IND fully within their right to do this. Not too different to things like “looking forward to GABBA” et cetera. Each host nation prefers to play in certain conditions to accentuate the home advantage.

There is only one way this pitch can be talked about and that is if it keeps on materially deteriorating to the point of ICC taking note/handing a warning in terms of suitability. Aside from that, there is no reason for IND to not use favourable pitches at their home.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

That's not true, due to the inconsistent nature of the weather even in the summer period the conditions rather than the wickets are what you have to get used to, a good covering of grass on a hot day at old Trafford won't mean swing and seam but will be a true batting belter, yet a wicket with a good covering of grass on a overcast day will be tricky.

That is absolutely true whether you want to accept it or not
. English wickets have seamer the most, on average, in recent times .

 

[MP2011]

Just saw the delivery with which Ashwin bowled Stokes. What a delivery that was!

 

[Manunited18]

Schedule an appointment with your local MP and petition to never have England tour on those evil Indian or Australian pitches again. Dukes ball only.

Australian pitches are fantastic, no complaints from me , even Mark Waugh questioning the state of the wicket on this current India v England test.

 

[MP2011]

Had we lost the toss in this test as well, like we do more often than not, nobody would have been sooking about the pitch for this test.

 

[JaDed]

Match is going to be over within 3 days. Pretty poor pitch by any standards tbh.

Same ground as first test..

 

[MP2011]

And who is Mark Waugh? The one who prophetically declared post our 36 AO that we'll lose next 3 tests as well!

Whatever he sooks about, doesn't matter at all!

 

[MP2011]

In any case, England should be last country to sook about pitches.

 

[Savak]

This is what you get when you tour in the Sub continent, no use whining. Honestly England's approach was poor, they should have looked to target the spinners, just blocking and hoping to survive was not going to work here.

 

[saeedhk]

What happened in the first test where Indian batsmen collapsed like a deck of cards was an exemption not the norm. We saw many here on PP jumping up and down and making silly remarks about the Indian team.

India is a cricketing giant and a batting powerhouse and Indian cricketers are not meek. India is expected to collapse every 10 or 15 innings like every top-grade team.

What puts India apart from cricketing minnows such as Pakistan is that India can play good cricket consistently.

 

[Ramsay]

Well played boys.

 

[Buffet]

Let's see if India can make some runs in 2nd go here.

 

[Ab Fan]

Australian pitches are fantastic, no complaints from me , even Mark Waugh questioning the state of the wicket on this current India v England test.

I suggest to improve your game rather than questioning the pitches. India got 330 and 51/1 on this wicket. It is England's job to bat well rather than their fans arguing over the pitch.

 

[Robert]

Yep, on a another note when Johnny bairstow zak Crawley back?

Crawley defo.

I want to keep Foakes as he is best keeper and gave the top six a batting lesson today. So where to put Buttler?

Just need Burns in form. If Hameed starts the season well he could see a place opening up.

 

[Savak]

The difference between the two teams is the quality of spinners.

 

[JaDed]

Next test we should take out Kuldeep and get in Bumrah..

 

[Saurav]

Next test we should take out Kuldeep and get in Bumrah..

3 pacers? I'd say Bumrah and Ishant with Sundar to replace Kuldeep

 

[Ab Fan]

Crawley defo.

I want to keep Foakes as he is best keeper and gave the top six a batting lesson today. So where to put Buttler?

Just need Burns in form. If Hameed starts the season well he could see a place opening up.

Crawley
Sibley
Bairstow
Root
Pope
Stokes
Foakes
Archer
Leech
Broad
Anderson

My team for next test.

 

[Ab Fan]

3 pacers? I'd say Bumrah and Ishant with Sundar to replace Kuldeep

It is pink ball test.

Bumrah
Ishant
Siraj
Ashwin
Axar

Looks best in my opinion.

 

[Saurav]

It is pink ball test.

Bumrah
Ishant
Siraj
Ashwin
Axar

Looks best in my opinion.

Still no need of 3 pacers.Pitch will be spin friendly

Also need extra batting .Axar is not good enough no. 7

 

[Manunited18]

Crawley defo.

I want to keep Foakes as he is best keeper and gave the top six a batting lesson today. So where to put Buttler?

Just need Burns in form. If Hameed starts the season well he could see a place opening up.

Buttler and bairstow are a massive loss, they can change a course of the game like Rohit has done on this type of wicket

 

[Slog]

England should just write off this match and prepare for next one lol

 

[Robert]

Buttler and bairstow are a massive loss, they can change a course of the game like Rohit has done on this type of wicket

I don’t much rate Bairstow in tests, he’s an ODI player. Should only play tests if someone gets injured.

 

[JaDed]

3 pacers? I'd say Bumrah and Ishant with Sundar to replace Kuldeep

Isn’t it DN test? Depends upon the pitch.. but yeah Sundar would be better than Kuldeep

 

[Robert]

England should just write off this match and prepare for next one lol

Plenty to play for. A long rearguard innings can do a batsman good. Burns has a lot to prove, only one spinner is likely to play in the pink ball match, and a paceman will be dropped. Could be....

Burns
Sibley
Crawley
Root
Stokes
Pope
Foakes
Leach
Woakes / Broad
Archer / Stone
Anderson

 

[Manunited18]

I don’t much rate Bairstow in tests, he’s an ODI player. Should only play tests if someone gets injured.

Johnny plays spin really well

 

[Pakhs]

Definitely a doctored pitch clear response from India after losing first test.

 

[Pakhs]

Imagine Rahane in that series.

Kohli has to go man.

What your opinion on this pitch?

 

[jnaveen1980]

Definitely a doctored pitch clear response from India after losing first test.

Clearly you have no clue what a "doctored" pitch is.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Australian pitches are fantastic, no complaints from me , even Mark Waugh questioning the state of the wicket on this current India v England test.

Who cares man. If you can't play on the pitch that is provide stop playing test cricket in these parts.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Let's see if India can make some runs in 2nd go here.

PUjara might score runs here. Rahane very rarely does well in both the innings. Kohli might score a 50. You have to factor in India's last 4 batsmen are worth 5 runs. No more than that. Basically they won't last more than 5 overs. Essentially all the runs have to be made by top 7.

 

[Manunited18]

Who cares man. If you can't play on the pitch that is provide stop playing test cricket in these parts.

You must have a short memory or old age is catching up with you, The First test was not long ago on a normal looking test pitch ... il give you The honour for the conclusion.

 

[jnaveen1980]

You must have a short memory or old age is catching up with you, The First test was not long ago on a normal looking test pitch ... il give you The honour for the conclusion.

If England had batted second you would be whining about that pitch also. It is part and parcel of the game. If you can't play don't tour. Just say "i am scared of pitches that turn" and stay home.

 

[Buffet]

PUjara might score runs here. Rahane very rarely does well in both the innings. Kohli might score a 50. You have to factor in India's last 4 batsmen are worth 5 runs. No more than that. Basically they won't last more than 5 overs. Essentially all the runs have to be made by top 7.

I don't think it's a rank turner and bounce is pretty much even. batsmen simply have to apply themselves. Two English batsmen did it for a period and it was great to watch.

Constantly talking about Pitch is non-sense. As long as a pitch is safe to bat without uneven bounce, there is nothing wrong with pitch turning from day one. Many pitches turn from day one. The problem is only with rank turners making it a lottery and the result has very little to do with skills.

NZ puts green mamba from time to time and the match gets done in 3 days. I don't see how those pitches are better than rank turners which also last for 3 days.

 

[Manunited18]

If England had batted second you would be whining about that pitch also. It is part and parcel of the game. If you can't play don't tour. Just say "i am scared of pitches that turn" and stay home.

Not at all, regarding the wicket for the first test I had absolutely zero reservations about even if England had lost.

 

[Pakhs]

Clearly you have no clue what a "doctored" pitch is.

mate stop living in denial.. or defending these poor tactics by Indian team. This is a disgraceful pitch.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I don't think it's a rank turner and bounce is pretty much even. batsmen simply have to apply themselves. Two English batsmen did it for a period and it was great to watch.

Constantly talking about Pitch is non-sense. As long as a pitch is safe to bat without uneven bounce, there is nothing wrong with pitch turning from day one. Many pitches turn from day one. The problem is only with rank turners making it a lottery and the result has very little to do with skills.

NZ puts green mamba from time to time and the match gets done in 3 days. I don't see how those pitches are better than rank turners which also last for 3 days.

Good reply. There is a method you have to adapt on surfaces.like this. Great Sachin, David have struggled on turners from time to time. Still remember how Africa was deadly on last day pitch at the Bangalore. Apart fr Sehwag who was gifted everyone looked tentative. O'Keefe most recently ran through Indian side. Having a turning pitch doesn't exactly help India these days as some of the premiere batsmen struggle against turning ball.

 

[Pakhs]

Really these kind of wickets are destroying this Indian team legacy.. I am all for home advantage but not under prepared pitches. Even Majerekar has said no man in the right mind will say this is a good wicket to play test cricket on.

 

[jnaveen1980]

mate stop living in denial.. or defending these poor tactics by Indian team. This is a disgraceful pitch.

There are only poor players.No poor pitches. Sure if it is dangerous to batsmen. Calling this a poor pitch is like Trump crying about the election fraud.

 

[Pakhs]

There are only poor players.No poor pitches. Sure if it is dangerous to batsmen. Calling this a poor pitch is like Trump crying about the election fraud.

This is a doctored pitch a clear response form losing on fairer pitch.. It leave a bad taste as it makes you feel like you need this added advantage to win at home. The pitch was under prepared even a day before the test match.

 

[Rana]

What time does Maghreb start in Pakistan?

What time did the match start?

What time was this drinks break?

 

[Extreme Pace]

I don't think the pitch was that bad honestly. This was a case of pitch playing on the minds of the English players more than the actual pitch itself. Pant made an easy 50 towards the end of India Inngs, Ben Foakes looked good for his 42* and India are already 50-1 and will probably score 200+. If England batted well and not the pitch scare them, it was a 230-250 type pitch not 130.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I don't think the pitch was that bad honestly. This was a case of pitch playing on the minds of the English players more than the actual pitch itself. Pant made an easy 50 towards the end of India Inngs, Ben Foakes looked good for his 42* and India are already 50-1 and will probably score 200+. If England batted well and not the pitch scare them, it was a 230-250 type pitch not 130.

Exactly. For the first 10 or 15 overs Ashwin hardly turned the ball. Pretty much everything went straight through. They succumbed to the artificial pressure created by close-in fielders. They convinced themselves sweep is the only way you can play.

 

[jnaveen1980]

This is a doctored pitch a clear response form losing on fairer pitch.. It leave a bad taste as it makes you feel like you need this added advantage to win at home. The pitch was under prepared even a day before the test match.

That is the talk of a sore loser lol. I don't dance well. Let us blame the stage.

 

[princeuk]

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Here’s the picture I saw.

What a ghanta pitch but NO indian fans in denial, this is happening in day 2 can you believe it.

BCCI are the best and no-one question them, just everyone else shut up and sit down.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

What your opinion on this pitch?

Old style turner for sure.

But I love watching games in these pitches (I love all bowling friendly pitches).

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

I don't think the pitch was that bad honestly. This was a case of pitch playing on the minds of the English players more than the actual pitch itself. Pant made an easy 50 towards the end of India Inngs, Ben Foakes looked good for his 42* and India are already 50-1 and will probably score 200+. If England batted well and not the pitch scare them, it was a 230-250 type pitch not 130.

Exactly.

Fans need to check how Pietersen and Cook scaled the Mumbai 2012 peak.

India scored 300 in the first innings and still lost the game.

Or this masterclass by the 1998 Indian team in Chennai:

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[Buffet]

I don't think the pitch was that bad honestly. This was a case of pitch playing on the minds of the English players more than the actual pitch itself. Pant made an easy 50 towards the end of India Inngs, Ben Foakes looked good for his 42* and India are already 50-1 and will probably score 200+. If England batted well and not the pitch scare them, it was a 230-250 type pitch not 130.

I felt the same. Ben and Pope were playing it well and treating the ball on merit rather than imagining that it's a rank turner. If India gets to 200-250 again then it will simply show that problem with pitch was more in batsmen's mind. Sure, it is a turning track, but not a rank turner.