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India end Day 3 of 1st Test against New Zealand at 144/4, trail by 39 runs

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Lead should have been 83 not 183 especially after NZ were 7 down for 227.
looks like the indians haven't learnt anything from the SA, eng, Aus (Adelaide test) tour.
Not sure whose fault it is, Captain or the bowlers!!

captain ofcourse. when he was supposed to bowl bumrah he uses ashwin. when he is supposed to bring shami in for the tail he brings on ishant. You need to bowl pace vs tail. Speed.
 
captain ofcourse. when he was supposed to bowl bumrah he uses ashwin. when he is supposed to bring shami in for the tail he brings on ishant. You need to bowl pace vs tail. Speed.

Bowling unit bar Ishant was terrible tbh

Bumrah’s average speed was really down and Shami didn’t display his usual control
 
Bowling unit bar Ishant was terrible tbh

Bumrah’s average speed was really down and Shami didn’t display his usual control

yes it's true but it was against the tail and ayaz and boult were struggling initally. should have brought on shami early.
 
You gotta be kidding me right? That NZ team didn't have a single notable bat except probably Greatbatch who himself was average at best. Taylor alone is better than that entire line up and not even talking about Williamson and Watling. This is almost like comparing the Flower brothers' Zim with the current one. Ludicrous and makes no sense.

With all due respect to Wasim and Waqar they would not have found it that easy if they were up against this current NZ batting.

I think you’re on something if you think Bumrah and Shami warrant an equal comparison with wasim and Waqar at this point
 
I really am enjoying this finely balanced Test.

New Zealand is the opposite of Pakistan: a team with very little talent but good organisation. Usually they are a 8/10 team at home and 4/10 away, but they have gone into a transitional period of decline and are currently only a 5/10 team.

India have been close to the top in a very weak era, but they are a 9/10 team at home but only 3/10 away. If they had more humility they would prepare properly for overseas Test series. But consider the two tours of England in 2018. Pakistan arrived early and literally practised in a public park, then drew 1-1. India refused to do that, believing they know best, and after they tried to score over 400 to win a Test instead of saving it lost 4-1.

India should win Tests like today’s because the gulf in talent is vast. But Bumrah and Shami keep bowling ridiculous lengths and are really hurting their team. You need to adapt before a series, not during it.

Lolol at NZ being a team with little talent in comparison to Pakistan

Williamson, Taylor, Watling, Boult, Wagner (not playing this game) and perhaps Southee would make the Pakistan team right now
 
Looking forward to see the most overrated batsmen getting out early once again
 
[MENTION=150610]tyron_woodley[/MENTION] your overrated Indian bowling attack got smashed :)))
 
Shaw looks out of place. He needs to work on his defensive game if he wants to play Tests.

At the moment, he looks like a ODI or t20 batsman.

Time to try out Gill as opener.
 
Shaw looks out of place. He needs to work on his defensive game if he wants to play Tests.

At the moment, he looks like a ODI or t20 batsman.

Time to try out Gill as opener.

Tough conditions to judge a young batsman. Even Gill was given debut in NZ in ODIs and then dropped after that series which was wrong in my opinion.
 
Indians would look to get a solid lead around 150 plus at least , they can put kiwis under pressure .
 
Shaw is clearly a useless player for us in overseas....he doesn't have any technique at all.....he should immediately be replaced
 
Shaw is 21 you dunces. Give him time. We are not pakistan to just dump him. That thread will age well. mark my words. screenshot my post.

just like rohit threads, kohli threads etc. Shaw will become a superstar.
 
India are trailing by just 139 runs.

NZ aren't safe yet. One big partnership can put pressure on NZ.
 
Aggarwal has looked composed here again , so far partnership looking solid, kiwis need to strike soon here , cannot let India go wicketless for long period of time
 
It seems like batting has gotten easier (typical NZ condition). India can cash in here.
 
since Kohli is a walking wicket in these conditions, mayank and pujari two should play really well
 
since Kohli is a walking wicket in these conditions, mayank and pujari two should play really well

Kohli definitely has a big test here. He needs to prove that he can handle swinging conditions. If he can save this match, it can cement his legacy further.
 
I do not think it will be easier for Kiwis to take Indian wickets in second innings , pitch is playing much better.
 
since Kohli is a walking wicket in these conditions, mayank and pujari two should play really well

dint kohli play in difficult conditons in England and dominate? he has nothing g yo prove. But he should play an important role here yes. For his legacy.
 
India are 129 runs behind.

This partnership has the potential to take the game away from NZ. They need a wicket.
 
this us what Pujara should had done in the first innings , now he is just playing negative.
 
Pujara is stonewalling.

Mayank agrawal is miles ahead of any recent opener. Why wasn't he picked in the team 4 years ago?
 
Pujara is stonewalling.

Mayank agrawal is miles ahead of any recent opener. Why wasn't he picked in the team 4 years ago?

Mayank was scoring runs for fun in domestic and India A matches in last 2-3 years.

But team management was intent on picking their favourites like Shikhar Dhawan who was a complete dud outside Asia.
 
Selectors could have tried KL Rahul instead of Shaw given his form in NZ, couldn't have done any worse than what Shaw has done so far.

Shaw will anyway get chances once Rohit is over the hill in a few years.
 
That swung. BAd leave though. Negative mindset of blocking and leaving eventually caused his downfall.
 
By the way, for those of you (us) who are Pakistan fans, a reminder:

In the World Test Championship:

Pakistan has 140 points
New Zealand has 60 points.

In this series there are 60 points for a win and 20 for a draw.

The best result for Pakistan is for India to win. The next best is a draw.

What Pakistan really does not want is a Kiwi victory.
 
That swung. BAd leave though. Negative mindset of blocking and leaving eventually caused his downfall.

I like the idea of holding one end. But ChePu is overdoing it. And as i type, this was bound to happen.

Lol knew someone would write this. But that is the same approach that brought him unprecedented success in Australia last year.

And that is what he does best. Obviously, it won't work everytime and it doesn't look good when it fails to comes off.

But he has succeeded more times than not with the same method throughout his career.
 
Lol knew someone would write this. But that is the same approach that brought him unprecedented success in Australia last year.

And that is what he does best. Obviously, it won't work everytime and it doesn't look good when it fails to comes off.

But he has succeeded more times than not with the same method throughout his career.

I got it what you’re saying but an strike rate of 10-15 after spending so much time is unacceptable. We’re not playing to save the test as if its the last day. A draw is practically impossible so we need runs. we have to negate the lead first and try to give a target as much as we can.
 
NZ did well to have a pitch where winning toss gives a huge advantage. It's better to take 50-50 chance rather than going for a sure draw games.

India started the game behind due to losng toss and then made it worse by batting poorly. 90% chance that NZ will win this test even if Indians bat well to score 350-400 runs in 2nd inning. 350-400 runs is lots of runs for Indians to score.
 
Pujara dismissal did not happen because of his strike rate. It was a loss in concentration and can happen how ever u start and play your innings
 
NZ did well to have a pitch where winning toss gives a huge advantage. It's better to take 50-50 chance rather than going for a sure draw games.

India started the game behind due to losng toss and then made it worse by batting poorly. 90% chance that NZ will win this test even if Indians bat well to score 350-400 runs in 2nd inning. 350-400 runs is lots of runs for Indians to score.

If india scores 400 , scoring 250 in last innings won’t be easy anywhere u play in world.. add to that bad light coming into play every day
 
1st Test • India tour of New Zealand, 2020

IND 165/10 & 96/3 (38.4)

NZ 348/10 (100.2)

Day 3: 3rd Session - India trail by 87 runs
 
India trail by 87 runs , kiwis would want another couple of wickets before India wipe off the lead.
 
A little unlucky for Mayank there, nothing on hotspot, difficult to say if the snicko spike is bat hitting ball or ground. But no conclusive evidence to overturn the onfield umpire's decision.
 
A little unlucky for Mayank there, nothing on hotspot, difficult to say if the snicko spike is bat hitting ball or ground. But no conclusive evidence to overturn the onfield umpire's decision.

another rule that needs to be changed. well nothing we can do now. india need to score 350 plus. or bat and save the test by drawing. kohli needs to perform.
 
What a terrible decision. Noise was bat hitting the ground and there was nothing on hotspot.

Nothing going our way. :facepalm:
 
If india scores 400 , scoring 250 in last innings won’t be easy anywhere u play in world.. add to that bad light coming into play every day

True , I forgot about bad light taking some time away. I think India needs to bat entire day tommorow for any hope to save this test and I don't think it's gong to happen. One thing can happen if some one plays aggresively and kept scoring at good clip then lead may be too much for NZ to chase.

More or less, NZ has this test in bag.
 
Mayank decision was a shocker, may ultimately decide the match.

Pujara was earlier given not out when it looked like it had clipped the glove, NZ reviewed but decision stayed with the on field umpire because of no "conclusive evidence" to overturn the decision. So it even out in the end.
 
Pujara was earlier given not out when it looked like it had clipped the glove, NZ reviewed but decision stayed with the on field umpire because of no "conclusive evidence" to overturn the decision. So it even out in the end.

hit the arm guard. not close to the glove. good decision.
 
why is the 7th ranked team talking about other teams. shhh. worry about your own team.
That's because Mickey and inzamam were terrible selector and coach for tests. With Misbah we will probably rise to top 4 just like we were from 2011 to 2017.
 
That's because Mickey and inzamam were terrible selector and coach for tests. With Misbah we will probably rise to top 4 just like we were from 2011 to 2017.

no you just lacked the talent at the time. Now you have a good bowling attack. batting still average though. top 4 probably.
 
it is all over now. kohli is finished. india is finished. useless team. can't even bat well on flat wickets. pathetic.
home track bullies.
 
no you just lacked the talent at the time. Now you have a good bowling attack. batting still average though. top 4 probably.

We definitely need one more class batsman, at least good enough to be Misbah-level at batting. Then we can be a very good test team. Agreed.
 
70 to make Kiwis bat again - also, I think max 15-16 overs more will be played today, means fresh Kiwi pacers will get Indian tail on sight in tomorrow's morning session.
 
Kiwis would be looking for another one here , to put Indians under big pressure. Kiwis would not be wanting to chase anything over 50 = 60 runs here
 
What a terrible decision. Noise was bat hitting the ground and there was nothing on hotspot.

Nothing going our way. :facepalm:

Mayank decision was a shocker, may ultimately decide the match.

Agrwal was walking back to pavilion without taking review kohli insisted him to go for it .Does that not give you any clue he edged it

From Ci
Southee to Agarwal, OUT, taken down the leg side! Overpitched, outside leg stump, but Agarwal has tried to flick behind square. It touches something, and the keeper collects. Umpire gives it out and Agarwal is walking back. But Kohli asks him to reconsider, and he goes for the review with just one second left on the clock. What's interesting is the bat doesn't seem to make contact with the ball on the hotspot, so now they're checking for the snicko, and there it shows that there's a very tiny edge off the bat. Agarwal has to walk back, Aleem Dar has given a terrific decision this evening. India lose a review
 
This is not how champion sides play away from home really. India need to do much better overseas, till then their fans should stop comparing this side to great west indian and aussie sides.
 
A 150 from Kohli here would have won India the game but he got only 19.
 
This is not how champion sides play away from home really. India need to do much better overseas, till then their fans should stop comparing this side to great west indian and aussie sides.

Whoever thinks that this Indian team is even half as good as those GOAT Aus or WI teams have my deepest sympathies.
 
This is not how champion sides play away from home really. India need to do much better overseas, till then their fans should stop comparing this side to great west indian and aussie sides.
They need to do what Pakistan does each time they tour England.

Arrive early and play lots of red ball cricket before the Test series.

Instead India keep playing white ball nonsense and then a single 15-a-side joke side match.

It’s completely unacceptable that Bumrah and Shami wasted 1/4 of the series by bowling a metre too short. I would expect even a teenager to have adjusted by the time the Test series starts.

New Zealand is a team with one top batsman, one top keeper and one top bowler, backed up by has-beens like Taylor and nobodies like pretty much the rest of the team. It’s not okay to lose to them because you couldn’t be bothered to acclimatise in match conditions.
 
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