India-Pakistan counterclaims of attack by Indian Army access line of control

[gani999]

Pakistan shot down one of the stealth US choppers when it came to hunt OBL, but India used some sort of alien technology that it extracted from Mars to enter into Pakistan without even disturbing a fly

Pakistan did not shoot down any helicopter. It suffered a mechanical failure and was destroyed by the special forces themselves as a part of the SOP in such cases.

Shooting down any aircraft or helicopter almost always results in crew casualities. No Americans were killed in the incident.

 

[Professor]

Wow these guys are superhuman, they killed 36 militants in an hour and and didn't even get a scratch in return. Also only got a minor injury after stepping on a mine that is just some next level stuff.

No wonder all of India is going crazy in celebration on twitter.
We Pakistanis need to learn from them, they never question anything their government says and just celebrate blindily. True patriots always put country over sanity or any sort of logic,

 

[Lonewarrior]

since when the LOC cross firing called as "Surgical Strike" ? LOL.

 

[Jin Chacha]

From so called surgical strikes to boycotting saarc to indus basin water treaty. Just shows how 4 militants can control the 70 year foreign policy of a country of over a billion people. India is playing right into the hands of the militants by these ridiculous actions if if everything it says is taken as fact. The fate of 1.5 billion Indian and Pakistanis can be changed overnight by four rag tag militants.

 

[Third_Umpire]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SurgicalStrikes?src=hash">#SurgicalStrikes</a> : PM Modi was awake throughout the night, did not have a drop of water<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/UriAttack?src=hash">#UriAttack</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ModiPunishesPak?src=hash">#ModiPunishesPak</a> <a href="https://t.co/uV6yKR3rli">https://t.co/uV6yKR3rli</a> <a href="https://t.co/NVPGaSnWUD">pic.twitter.com/NVPGaSnWUD</a></p>— ABP News (@abpnewstv) <a href="https://twitter.com/abpnewstv/status/781533698185244672">September 29, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Propaganda machine in over drive

paani to pee lo yaara

 

[WebGuru]

The video of LoC cross firing was first released by Pakistan earlier today and now released pics of those 2 jawans. Juma Khan and Naik Imtiaz embraced Shahadat. Waiting for India to accept the fact that they also suffered the casualties and stop twisting the facts. Video is there for everyone to see

RIP brothers

 

[Syed1]

Look at their ages man. They are the same age as me and you. What did we achieve with their deaths?

 

[QazzarFan]

Look at their ages man. They are the same age as me and you. What did we achieve with their deaths?

Point scoring for few brave internet warriors safely sitting in foreign countries

 

[WebGuru]

Words of a former Fighter Pilot of IAF

 

[WebGuru]

Look at their ages man. They are the same age as me and you. What did we achieve with their deaths?

More stories for both side of media. More content for internet warriors.

 

[90MPH]

From so called surgical strikes to boycotting saarc to indus basin water treaty. Just shows how 4 militants can control the 70 year foreign policy of a country of over a billion people. India is playing right into the hands of the militants by these ridiculous actions if if everything it says is taken as fact. The fate of 1.5 billion Indian and Pakistanis can be changed overnight by four rag tag militants.

Post of the day.

This is the reality of what has happened.

 

[shah_1]

Did India achieve anything by all this drama? This was all to please the critics of Modi

 

[srh]

Just saw some updates in Twitter reg strikes by Indian army along LOC. Are there any significant causalities reported in PAK media?

how many people you want dead to be considered significant causalities?

 

[big_gamer007]

The media is going OTT.. Wish we could have been like USCAN or Aus NZ..

I read a post by [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] in one the threads where he said CPEC should have been EPIC.. And Modi himself said during his visit to China I think it was that his is the century of Asia.. If only in India Pakistan China everyone could understand that we could help each other and give every person from each country a better standard of living and compete with US/European market in future.. But no we just want to remain Third world..

Anyways I guess what happened here is actually for the good.. Now India can claim victory and Pakistani's can claim the victory as well..

 

[Bewal Express]

Pak Army will deny to save face and to cap the escalation.

Any videos?

 

[Bewal Express]

The video of LoC cross firing was first released by Pakistan earlier today and now released pics of those 2 jawans. Juma Khan and Naik Imtiaz embraced Shahadat. Waiting for India to accept the fact that they also suffered the casualties and stop twisting the facts. Video is there for everyone to see

RIP brothers

May Allah grant jannah to these brave soldiers.

 

[Bewal Express]

I don't think these type videos should be made public but modi govt is making it hard for our military to sit back and watch without doing anything. In the end only soldiers from both sides are going to suffer while the govts and their leaders will enjoy watching this on their LEDs sitting in their peaceful rooms.

Although video is showing attacks on indian posts and indian soldiers but it hurts me and i feel the same pain as a human. Just sharing this video link to show it's not going to help any side and nobody is going to win it's a lose-lose situation for both countries.

http://www.samaa.tv/pakistan/2016/09/exclusive-video-indian-military-post-blown-up-by-pakistan/

Agreed, these were someone's son or brother and the loss of life is nothing but tragic.

 

[Pakpak]

Any videos?

Can you imagine if this was the other way around?

''Joshila bhai, Pak army has announced it has attacked Indian positions in IOK and killed dozens''.

He would laugh it off and ask for evidence. Their own DG Army neglected to mention if this was INSIDE Pakistan and left before he had to answer any questions. I posted a BBC excerpt above, India's own statement is deliberately vague, keeps their population happy without admitting to an act of war.

An Indian attack would never be tolerated. If India knew it could get away with it they would have done so after Mumbai.

 

[Syed1]

Can you imagine if this was the other way around?

''Joshila bhai, Pak army has announced it has attacked Indian positions in IOK and killed dozens''.

He would laugh it off and ask for evidence. Their own DG Army neglected to mention if this was INSIDE Pakistan and left before he had to answer any questions. I posted a BBC excerpt above, India's own statement is deliberately vague, keeps their population happy without admitting to an act of war.

An Indian attack would never be tolerated. If India knew it could get away with it they would have done so after Mumbai.

First thing he will say is you haven't done census how do you know how many soldiers there were

 

[Pakpak]

First thing he will say is you haven't done census how do you know how many soldiers there were

Or try and bring in 1971 when he's kicked down. Then when another thread is made he will deny India's terrorist role in 1971. But bring it up again when he's owned....the cycle continues.

 

[WebGuru]

Exclusive video of the surgical strikes

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[PakLFC]

All I have seen on Indian channels are some soldiers walking around. There is no way Pak military would remain silent on the face of any attack. The Indian government has been under immense pressure to do something about the Uri attacks. It's normal for the media and government to make up something like this to please their people.

 

[Pakpak]

^ And this would not be the first time.

I still remember their bulletin that ten hardcore terrorists from Pakistan have landed in India, they ran this absurd story for a full day till those poor souls came on Pak news channels to clarify who they were and it turned out they were grocers, rickshaw drivers etc from Lahore.

 

[Bewal Express]

Exclusive video of the surgical strikes

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On this depressing day that video has really cheered me up.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Any videos?

Did US release videos of OBL raid?

 

[Civil]

Did indian army state in their press briefing, in which they took no questions in, that they went into pakistani territory? Cant seem to find the statement anywhere

 

[cricketjoshila]

So Pak Army will accept that they had terror camps and terrorists inside POK that Indian Army attacked?Never.

Modi and the IA has done this brilliantly.By making sure that Terrorists and terror camps were attacked he has put Pakistan in a catch 22.

If they accept that the strikes took place and try to raise it around the world openly or escalate(which they will not)then they accept that POK has terror camps.If they deny then they have nothing more to say to the world as according to them nothing happened. Chanakya will be proud of this.

 

[Pakpak]

Did US release videos of OBL raid?

Their burnt helicopter was proof enough.

 

[PakLFC]

Did US release videos of OBL raid?

That's coz such an event never happened. You don't seriously believe that Osama was buried at sea, do you?. They did however have no hesitation is showing Saddam Hussain's last moments.

 

[Pakpak]

Did indian army state in their press briefing, in which they took no questions in, that they went into pakistani territory? Cant seem to find the statement anywhere

As per BBC they did not say it was inside Pakistan.

 

[big_gamer007]

Lol why are people expecting videos??

 

[Pakpak]

So Pak Army will accept that they had terror camps and terrorists inside POK that Indian Army attacked?Never.

Modi and the IA has done this brilliantly.By making sure that Terrorists and terror camps were attacked he has put Pakistan in a catch 22.

If they accept that the strikes took place and try to raise it around the world openly or escalate(which they will not)then they accept that POK has terror camps.If they deny then they have nothing more to say to the world as according to them nothing happened. Chanakya will be proud of this.

Or...

Modi has been under immense pressure to do something and creating a phantom attack eases that pressure. His idiot minions are satisfied while Pakistan knows nothing happened and hence a real war is averted.

 

[Syed1]

We also did surgical strike in India.


but don't ask us for pictures or videos. Did US give videos of OBL raid?

 

[cricketjoshila]

That's coz such an event never happened. You don't seriously believe that Osama was buried at sea, do you?. They did however have no hesitation is showing Saddam Hussain's last moments.

LOL.Please tell this to people around the place you live in.

 

[Pakpak]

Lol why are people expecting videos??

Your own media is saying 'wonderful footage exists'. Wonderful and beautiful footage were the adjectives used.

 

[PakLFC]

Camps or not the Pak military would never allow such strikes without hitting back. Its not about if or not their were terrorists in Azaad Kashmir waiting to cross over. The point is India will simply not be allowed to strike on Pak land.

 

[PakLFC]

LOL.Please tell this to people around the place you live in.

They already know. The facts speak for themselves. You can continue to believe in the gutter press as it's easier that way.

 

[Pakpak]

Again, India would have done this in 2008 if it could.

Pakistan can claim a phantom attack tomorrow too, and according to the troll Joshila we don't need to show proof.

 

[waqar goraya]

Some foolish people on internet rejoicing the reported killings of between 8 to 14 Indian soldiers compared to Pakistan's 2.

These are so called educated people. What next then? May be India's turn to avenge and after that Pakistan's reaction?

Subcontinent is living in stone ages.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Your own media is saying 'wonderful footage exists'. Wonderful and beautiful footage were the adjectives used.

Lot of things exist but are termed classified.

 

[Syed1]

They already know. The facts speak for themselves. You can continue to believe in the gutter press as it's easier that way.

You are wasting your time with a guy who will believe it even if the Indian government tomorrow comes and says we did surgical strike on US.

 

[Pakpak]

Lot of things exist but are termed classified.

Some classified footage if rag tag tabloids have seen it.

 

[Syed1]

Lot of things exist but are termed classified.

Yes we also have classified videos of our surgical strike on India

 

[PakLFC]

I think Arnab Goswami in his Rambo suit, K C Singh and Burkha Dutt did these surgical strikes. Modi and Sushma Swaraj were watching from the other side.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Some foolish people on internet rejoicing the reported killings of between 8 to 14 Indian soldiers compared to Pakistan's 2.

These are so called educated people. What next then? May be India's turn to avenge and after that Pakistan's reaction?

Subcontinent is living in stone ages.

Yes suddenly by evening 8 to 14 Indian soldiers fell dead.Nice.I read that till 15th of Dec 1971 Pakistan was winning the war and then 16th we know what happened.

OBL was not in abbottabad.

Taliban leadership is not in Pakistan

etc etc etc.....

 

[Civil]

So if indian army itself is saying they didnt cross into our territory and also pakistan knows they didnt cross into pak territory. What was surgical about this strike!!. Does this mean no one in actually read the statement before going nuts on twitter in bharat. They are thinking they had their own zero dark thirty??

Are they celebrating those 2 soldiers deaths ??

 

[Syed1]

Yes suddenly by evening 8 to 14 Indian soldiers fell dead.Nice.I read that till 15th of Dec 1971 Pakistan was winning the war and then 16th we know what happened.

OBL was not in abbottabad.

Taliban leadership is not in Pakistan

etc etc etc.....

Unlike you we actually have videos of the attack and guess what they aren't classified

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yes we also have classified videos of our surgical strike on India

If only your army had that guts,they wouldnot have used terorrists(as accepted by your President).

 

[big_gamer007]

Your own media is saying 'wonderful footage exists'. Wonderful and beautiful footage were the adjectives used.

You should realise when a huge story breaks out (this is a huge story) media houses go over the top to out do each other.. And now we have plenty of media houses who are go way OTT.. I don't know which media outlets shared that story but we do have some bad media outlets.. Do you have any link to these stories??

Anyways point was even if footage exists the army/government does not have to release it and actually should not release it..

 

[Syed1]

If only your army had that guts,they wouldnot have used terorrists(as accepted by your President).

You don't know it is classified

 

[cricketjoshila]

Unlike you we actually have videos of the attack and guess what they aren't classified

Yea suddenly by evening Indian soldiers fell dead.Such a believable happening.

 

[PakLFC]

Army and military is not releasing footage because there is nothing to release!

 

[cricketjoshila]

You don't know it is classified

Not everything is classified.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Army and military is not releasing footage because there is nothing to release!

Because they dont care what PPers think.30 envoys have been briefed.

 

[blue_champion]

That's coz such an event never happened. You don't seriously believe that Osama was buried at sea, do you?. They did however have no hesitation is showing Saddam Hussain's last moments.

So you think that OBL being in Pak and his execution by US armed forces was a hoax?

this is just amazing.

 

[Pakpak]

You should realise when a huge story breaks out (this is a huge story) media houses go over the top to out do each other.. And now we have plenty of media houses who are go way OTT.. I don't know which media outlets shared that story but we do have some bad media outlets.. Do you have any link to these stories??

Anyways point was even if footage exists the army/government does not have to release it and actually should not release it..

It should release it. Modi should be accountable to his people and the opposition about what happened. Otherwise tomorrow if Pakistan makes a similar BS claim it can result in war.

As I said this is what happened:

-India launches a phantom attack, why now and why not in 2008(?) in the most heavily militarised border in the entire world
-Modi lessens the pressure on him, his blind brigade celebrates
-Pakistan also announces phantom Indian deaths, knowing nothing really happened hence no war is risked

You have your tabloid running fantasy Cod games and we have ours.

 

[big_gamer007]

So you think that OBL being in Pak and his execution by US armed forces was a hoax?

this is just amazing.

Why are you surprised?

 

[Syed1]

Yea suddenly by evening Indian soldiers fell dead.Such a believable happening.

Classified info.

 

[Pakpak]

Because they dont care what PPers think.30 envoys have been briefed.

I don't know what the envoys conveyed, because according to the BBC your DG Army refused to pinpoint whether the strikes were IN Pakistan or ON the border. And conveniently did not answer any questions.

 

[blue_champion]

Pak said terrorists did Uri and the army was not responsible...Indians say surgical strikes happened against terrorists and not the Pak army.....so why are Pakistanis getting their knickers in a twist.

In the real world if India was creating a propaganda and this were not true you should be sad that some **** has not been eliminated from your motherland.

 

[Syed1]

You only classify info, if you don't have it

 

[blue_champion]

Why are you surprised?

We know what happens in North Korea and in Pakistan but still when you meet an actual person you still are taken aback by how disconnected they are really to the actual world

 

[Pakpak]

Pak said terrorists did Uri and the army was not responsible...Indians say surgical strikes happened against terrorists and not the Pak army.....so why are Pakistanis getting their knickers in a twist.

In the real world if India was creating a propaganda and this were not true you should be sad that some **** has not been eliminated from your motherland.

I am sure Indians would not mind if we bombed any Baloch rebel in Delhi if they get asylum.

 

[Pakpak]

We know what happens in North Korea and in Pakistan but still when you meet an actual person you still are taken aback by how disconnected they are really to the actual world

What are you doing on a forum full of disconnected people?

 

[Syed1]

I am sure Indians would not mind if we bombed any Baloch rebel in Delhi if they get asylum.

Yeah we are only eliminating terrorists from their country

 

[blue_champion]

What are you doing on a forum full of disconnected people?

That is how the free world works....trying to get everyone's perspective.....some posts here are amusing.

 

[big_gamer007]

It should release it. Modi should be accountable to his people and the opposition about what happened. Otherwise tomorrow if Pakistan makes a similar BS claim it can result in war.

As I said this is what happened:

-India launches a phantom attack, why now and why not in 2008(?) in the most heavily militarised border in the entire world
-Modi lessens the pressure on him, his blind brigade celebrates
-Pakistan also announces phantom Indian deaths, knowing nothing really happened hence no war is risked

You have your tabloid running fantasy Cod games and we have ours.

Nope it should not.. Government releasing real killing and bombing videos to please people? Are you kidding me? There are something's which should be classified and this fits it's perfectly..

Most Indians probably already believe this happened so there is no point releasing new videos.. Basically it's the Pakistanis here who do not believe it happened and Indian government does not have to release the footage to prove to them..

Pakistan can also claim the same and maybe on your side also majority people would believe that it happened.. Indian media GOI can downplay the instance that nothing happened and Indian public would believe nothing happened..

Ultimately what exactly happened only the ones involved would know.. People like you and me can speculate or willingly believe stories which suit our own ego..

After Mumbai attcack congress was in power who were not strong enough to take this action.. BJP's whole image is based to nationalism so they have to look tough against terrorism..

 

[Pakpak]

That is how the free world works....trying to get everyone's perspective.....some posts here are amusing.

I don't go on Indian forums, because if Indians on here are any clue those places would be cesspits. Hence why I am surprised you're here after calling Pakistanis insane.

 

[Syed1]

I don't go on Indian forums, because if Indians on here are any clue those places would be cesspits. Hence why I am surprised you're here after calling Pakistanis insane.

Oh God I can't even imagine posting in a forum where the "joshila" crowd are in a majority. That place would be closer to hell than earth.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Classified info.

And how is it proved that its in Indian territory? ISPR brainwashing at work again.

 

[waqar goraya]

Yes suddenly by evening 8 to 14 Indian soldiers fell dead.Nice.I read that till 15th of Dec 1971 Pakistan was winning the war and then 16th we know what happened.

OBL was not in abbottabad.

Taliban leadership is not in Pakistan

etc etc etc.....

No way i am accepting the veracity of these reports in the media. I was merely criticizing the mentality which rejoices killings. Unlike you i don't accept whatever is thrown at me by the media. But you need your tonic

Maliha Lodhi's home is a sanctuary of Dawood Ibrahim.

Samjhota express massacre was done by Pakistan.

Kashmiris are supplied stones by ISI.

Kulbhushan Yadav, came here to catch fish

We also remember recent drama of your government regarding the alleged Pakistani boat which was contradicted by coast guard itself.

 

[Pakpak]

Nope it should not.. Government releasing real killing and bombing videos to please people? Are you kidding me? There are something's which should be classified and this fits it's perfectly..

Most Indians probably already believe this happened so there is no point releasing new videos.. Basically it's the Pakistanis here who do not believe it happened and Indian government does not have to release the footage to prove to them..

Pakistan can also claim the same and maybe on your side also majority people would believe that it happened.. Indian media GOI can downplay the instance that nothing happened and Indian public would believe nothing happened..

Ultimately what exactly happened only the ones involved would know.. People like you and me can speculate or willingly believe stories which suit our own ego..

After Mumbai attcack congress was in power who were not strong enough to take this action.. BJP's whole image is based to nationalism so they have to look tough against terrorism..

BJP also did not do anything in 2001. Camped on the border then left.

Pakistan released videos of bombing Afghan outposts during the last skirmish and releases videos when Indian outposts are attacked as well. Otherwise tomorrow if Pakistan says they attacked Indian positions #covertly without proof it risks a real war.

Agree to disagree.

 

[Pakpak]

And how is it proved that its in Indian territory? ISPR brainwashing at work again.

Utterly hilarious, the irony

The guy giving NO proof and supporting giving NO proof goes on to doubt when proof is given to him, even if the proof is shabby its still something.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I don't know what the envoys conveyed, because according to the BBC your DG Army refused to pinpoint whether the strikes were IN Pakistan or ON the border. And conveniently did not answer any questions.

If you search you will know that many details of the OPs were given to the media.

 

[blue_champion]

I don't go on Indian forums, because if Indians on here are any clue those places would be cesspits. Hence why I am surprised you're here after calling Pakistanis insane.

If it helps you...I didn't generalize the entire Pakistan populace......as the saying in Hindi Samajhdaar ko ek ishaara hi kaafi hai...so you would realize who I am talking about.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Utterly hilarious, the irony

The guy giving NO proof and supporting giving NO proof goes on to doubt when proof is given to him, even if the proof is shabby its still something.

So 30 envoys were called for dinner.LOL.

The proof will be/is given to people who matter not to fulfill the wishes of PPers.

Post a video of smoke coming out of a forest area and say Indian Army post hit.



This is the image?

 

[Pakpak]

If you search you will know that many details of the OPs were given to the media.

I see 2 reports:

* one from the tabloid which says Indian commandos have been 'stealthily moving in PoK since September 20'
* second from the BBC and the official statement given to such news organisations which is: "Based on receiving specific and credible inputs that some terrorist teams had positioned themselves at launch pads along the Line of Control to carry out infiltration and conduct terrorist strikes inside Jammu and Kashmir and in various metros in other states, the Indian army conducted surgical strikes at several of these launch pads to pre-empt infiltration by terrorists," a statement said. It said the "surgical strikes" had caused "significant damage to terrorists". But the army did not say whether troops had entered Pakistan-administered Kashmir or had fired across the border.

 

[Bewal Express]

I don't know what the envoys conveyed, because according to the BBC your DG Army refused to pinpoint whether the strikes were IN Pakistan or ON the border. And conveniently did not answer any questions.

Do the Indians actually know what they are supposed to be celebrating?

 

[Pakpak]

So 30 envoys were called for dinner.LOL.

The proof will be/is given to people who matter not to fulfill the wishes of PPers.

Post a video of smoke coming out of a forest area and say Indian Army post hit.

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This is the image?

Read above, your official statement from your spokesman.

 

[big_gamer007]

BJP also did not do anything in 2001. Camped on the border then left.

Pakistan released videos of bombing Afghan outposts during the last skirmish and releases videos when Indian outposts are attacked as well. Otherwise tomorrow if Pakistan says they attacked Indian positions #covertly without proof it risks a real war.

Agree to disagree.

The whole campaign of BJP this time around was around development, corruption and acting on terrorism.. BJP in last 5 years of UPA rule really lambasted congress for being soft and weak.. The persona of Modi/BJP is being a man of action and not a man of words against terrorism.. The congress and local parties were mounting pressure on government for not doing anything the reputation of being hard of terrorism was at stake so GOI had to act.. You can't compare it to 2001 it was same party yes but different times/leaders..

Now what exactly went on let just Indians believe we killed terrorist camps and we can let you believe nothing happen.. All sides happy I guess..

I doubt two nuke nations would go to war with each other due to fake phantom stories.. But yes let's agree to disagree on releasing the footage parts, IMO the public on either side is not mature enough to be shared every detail with..