India v Australia, 2nd Test, Day 2 18/10/08 Mohali

[deathstreak]

reverse swing has Hussey in a bit of a tangle

is the ball reversing so early ?
Has the pitch deteriorated or the pressure is showing on the Aussies ?

 

[deathstreak]

if its reversing get Ishant in

 

[Milroastnescafe]

Just last ten more overs.

 

[Random Aussie]

Bryce McGain.

Yes but he is injured.

 

[Random Aussie]

reverse swing has Hussey in a bit of a tangle

is the ball reversing so early ?
Has the pitch deteriorated or the pressure is showing on the Aussies ?

Indians have better mints to rub on the ball than us.

 

[deathstreak]

Indians have better mints to rub on the ball than us.

Its all the spice i tell u

 

[Milroastnescafe]

Good partnership, but no doubt Clarke will do his trick where he dismisses himself about 2 balls before close of play.

Hussey averaging over 70 again where it should be

 

[Milroastnescafe]

Big turn there yikes.

 

[Random Aussie]

Questions will be asked about the ball reverse swinging 8 overs into the innings I think.
That's a bit odd.

 

[Milroastnescafe]

Questions will be asked about the ball reverse swinging 8 overs into the innings I think.
That's a bit odd.

well three players from team spirit of cricket, Ganguly, Dravid and Tendulkar, all have history of ball tampering so hmmm...

 

[Milroastnescafe]

Last over.. dont get out please.

 

[deathstreak]

well three players from team spirit of cricket, Ganguly, Dravid and Tendulkar, all have history of ball tampering so hmmm...

wat about the spin

 

[deathstreak]

dont worry clarke and last two balls

 

[TruSachFan]

mishraaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

[deathstreak]

There's a fly slip in place

wat's a fly slip ?

 

[Milroastnescafe]

Good partnership, but no doubt Clarke will do his trick where he dismisses himself about 2 balls before close of play.

I wish I didn't say that.

 

[deathstreak]

clarkeeee hattrick

 

[deathstreak]

I wish I didn't say that.

plzzzz continue )

 

[Random Aussie]

Good partnership, but no doubt Clarke will do his trick where he dismisses himself about 2 balls before close of play.

Hussey averaging over 70 again where it should be

You need to not post these things ) )

 

[Milroastnescafe]

Oh well, Shane Watson is looking good for a double-ton tomorrow.

 

[Random Aussie]

Oh well, Shane Watson is looking good for a double-ton tomorrow.

) )

 

[Romali_rotti]

If Dhoni held onto that catch surely Aussies would have been looking at innings defeat . Anyway well done to my boys ....

 

[Random Aussie]

Well we started the day at a small disadvantaged and ended the day completely ****ed.

We going to lose this Test maan.

 

[pjkilla]

Questions will be asked about the ball reverse swinging 8 overs into the innings I think.
That's a bit odd.

it would seem so, but not really, Ishant and Zaheer were bowling cross seam at the start to scuff up the ball and it worked

 

[hindustani007]

Mishra you beauty, tricked Clarkey big time. Funny how clarke was cleaning up the footmarks 2 feet outside legside, hahahaha...

 

[Random Aussie]

it would seem so, but not really, Ishant and Zaheer were bowling cross seam at the start to scuff up the ball and it worked

Yeah I didn't see any of it but I doubt there was anything dodgy going on.
Just saying that the ball reversing so early in the innings will be commented upon, there may be a good reason why.

 

[Bublu Bhuyan]

Man, time does change doesn't it ? I mean, Australia still is probably the best team in the world. But it's not even 10% as strong as it was back in 2004/05. Back then, I would have preferred a Test series victory against Australia even more than a World Cup. It was more or less impossible to defeat them. Not that it's easy to defeat them now, but the retired players have made such a huge gap which is kind of impossible of the youngsters to fill.

 

[lollol]

Man, time does change doesn't it ? I mean, Australia still is probably the best team in the world. But it's not even 10% as strong as it was back in 2004/05. Back then, I would have preferred a Test series victory against Australia even more than a World Cup. It was more or less impossible to defeat them. Not that it's easy to defeat them now, but the retired players have made such a huge gap which is kind of impossible of the youngsters to fill.

Yup, it indeed is a big difference, thats why i placed (along with 90% of the cricketing followers i think) my money on India to win this series 3-1

The (obviously) variables were how AUS bowlers would do on Indian pitches, like Lee, Clarke, the rookie pacer, and the rookie spinner.

Now ive seen how they cant even get some movement of the pitch, and how ZAK makes the ball talk and Sharma gets some nice seam movement also..... i want to quote ZAK:

"Australian bowlers cannot take 20 wkts"

India gonna win this 3-0 or either 2-0 me thinks.

 

[lollol]

Amit Mishra vs Piyush Chawla

Anyone can make a comparison? Whats the difference between the two? Why has Piyush Chawla played some ODI matches a few months ago, while Mishra didnt? And now Mishra gets to play this Test??

 

[Bublu Bhuyan]

Yup, it indeed is a big difference, thats why i placed (along with 90% of the cricketing followers i think) my money on India to win this series 3-1

The (obviously) variables were how AUS bowlers would do on Indian pitches, like Lee, Clarke, the rookie pacer, and the rookie spinner.

Now ive seen how they cant even get some movement of the pitch, and how ZAK makes the ball talk and Sharma gets some nice seam movement also..... i want to quote ZAK:

"Australian bowlers cannot take 20 wkts"

India gonna win this 3-0 or either 2-0 me thinks.

The Pakistani team of 2001/02 was 10 times stronger than this current Australian team. Now S.A will start fighting with the Aussies for the top spot, I believe.

 

[maamrut]

Questions will be asked about the ball reverse swinging 8 overs into the innings I think.
That's a bit odd.

I don't think so..unless ofcourse you don't understand reverse swing anyway.Its obvious that Indians are better at it than the aussie bowlers.

 

[KB]

The two Indian seamers have swung the ball - especially reverse - impressively. They have clearly out-shone their Australian counterparts in this area.

 

[SalaamPakistan]

As long as Wasim Akram is sharing the tips of reverse swing to Indian fast bowlers rather than Australian fast bowlers. It's pretty obvious that Lee too is clueless about reverse swing and begging for reverse swing lessons from Waqar

 

[Bublu Bhuyan]

From Australia's perspective, they need to focus on drawing this match at the moment. Nothing wrong in aiming for a win if their situation improves, but right now the wise thing for them to do is put in all their efforts to draw this match. Ultimately, it's winning the series that matters, whether it's won 4-0 or 1-0.

 

[Savak]

This tour has exposed the Australians. The loss of Mcgrath and Warne is huge especially in the subcontinent.

 

[maamrut]

So whats Ishant's top speed for the day?According to me its 147 kph..a couple more that were 90 mph.

 

[maamrut]

From Australia's perspective, they need to focus on drawing this match at the moment. Nothing wrong in aiming for a win if their situation improves, but right now the wise thing for them to do is put in all their efforts to draw this match. Ultimately, it's winning the series that matters, whether it's won 4-0 or 1-0.

I think only one team is in a positionto win this game and its not Australia.

 

[Savak]

Hmm 102 runs from 41 overs? Yep thank you for playing attacking cricket Australia.

 

[Bublu Bhuyan]

I think only one team is in a positionto win this game and its not Australia.

Well, yes at the moment only one team is in a position to win this match, and it's India. But who know, situation may change you never know. What if Australia manages a good partnership and then bowls out India cheaply. I mean, such things are always highly unlikely, but one never knows.

 

[Bublu Bhuyan]

Hmm 102 runs from 41 overs? Yep thank you for playing attacking cricket Australia.

They have been defensive right throughout this series. I was surprised over the way the batted in the 1st innings of the 1st Test.

 

[Tupac]

well done boys! couple of more wickets in the morning and we should be good...Then we should bat again and grind the Aussies down, set a target of 500+ and take it from there.

 

[Savak]

They have been defensive right throughout this series. I was surprised over the way the batted in the 1st innings of the 1st Test.

They certainly have no excuse now, this was the best pitch they would ever get for batting and bowling on this tour. They have not looked like winning the series so far.

Lee really needs to be castigated for his poor performance so far in the series. Even Siddle has bowled at his 100% in this series. But yes Australia's lack of proper spin options has been another hurdle in this series. But as far as the pacers are concerned they should have known what to expect and should have worked overdrive on getting the ball to reverse swing. I havent seen much reverse swing from anyone apart from Johnson.

As far their tactics are concerned, i think they must be really stupid and dumb to announce the tactics of putting a deep point, sweeper for the Indian batters to cut down on their boundries and make them boil and sweat for their runs just as they did in 2004. I mean Hello, this is 2008 now, dont you think the Indians remember what happened in 2004? Didnt the Aussies for a minute think "They wont make the same mistakes again and will bat patiently for their runs on this occasion". Besides tactics are only good as the people who execute them. Jason Gillespie, Mcgrath, even Kasprowicz to an extent were well known for keeping things tight and for holding an end up for as long as possible even when they werent taking wickets and with those 3 in one attack the pressure will be on the Indians. But it was naive and stupid for the Aussies to think Lee, Johnson, Clarke or Siddle would not leak runs. And Warne's loss is huge as it is.

 

[maamrut]

^plz stop making a fool out of yourself U really believe ZAK is a world-class bowler???

Man thats pretty harsh..he is completely different bowler than what he used to be.He has been consistent for 2 years now aveaging 28 per wicket(thats good for sub-continental pacer).

Besides we all saw what he did in England.And if you see in this series also,the amount of swing(conventional and reverse) he gets at a good pace is really world-class.

 

[Easa]

They are desperately missing McGrath.

On a pitch like this, a flat one with just a little bit in it for the bowlers, McGrath's metronome accuracy would be gold, tempting the batsman with the perfect line and length outside off stump at 83/84mph. He would have been economical, picked up wickets, and generally put pressure on batsmen from one end. Stuart Clarke is nothing on McGrath at all, and Lee has generally bowled very averagely.

Lee's only strength on these wickets is his express pace - if he decides to use it. Bowling at 140k's is not going to get him any wickets, because he hasn't been getting any bounce, his main strength. He needs to take the old ball and bowl some quick yorkers or some rapid bouncers and attempt the bouncer-yorker method that has worked well for him in the past. He hasn't been getting any seam movement and 140k's isn't going to trouble any batsmen in the world, really, so something has to be done, and quickly.

The Australian batting can sort itself out, but taking 20 wickets is the real deal.

 

[Savak]

They are desperately missing McGrath.

On a pitch like this, a flat one with just a little bit in it for the bowlers, McGrath's metronome accuracy would be gold, tempting the batsman with the perfect line and length outside off stump at 83/84mph. He would have been economical, picked up wickets, and generally put pressure on batsmen from one end. Stuart Clarke is nothing on McGrath at all, and Lee has generally bowled very averagely.

Lee's only strength on these wickets is his express pace - if he decides to use it. Bowling at 140k's is not going to get him any wickets, because he hasn't been getting any bounce, his main strength. He needs to take the old ball and bowl some quick yorkers or some rapid bouncers and attempt the bouncer-yorker method that has worked well for him in the past. He hasn't been getting any seam movement and 140k's isn't going to trouble any batsmen in the world, really, so something has to be done, and quickly.

The Australian batting can sort itself out, but taking 20 wickets is the real deal.

Bravo. Just what i have been saying and implying all along especially on Lee. I hope someone can get this message to him.

 

[Easa]

I don't think so..unless ofcourse you don't understand reverse swing anyway.Its obvious that Indians are better at it than the aussie bowlers.

It's obvious who doesn't understand reverse swing, and it's not Random Aussie, my friend

There are certain nuances of reverse-swing; a ball does not reverse after eight overs when the natural shine is still on the ball. It swings, but conventionally, because the shine is still on the ball. The bowlers can do whatever they want, but that general shine will not disappear until later on in the innings. Don't go all Ian Botham on us, mate.

 

[maamrut]

Psst Ishant you don't give the death stare to the batter when you have gone for 15 in the over, you are supposed to do it when the batsman has played and missed or ducked a bouncer.

Not one shot came off the middle of the bat.LOL.

 

[Easa]

There are two ways of succeeding as a fast bowler on these subcontinental wickets:

You either bowl at express pace, well above 90mph, and sort the batsmen out with that.

Or, the next best thing, is swing through the air, be it reverse swing or conventional swing. Lee has not been swinging the ball, reverse or not, and still the only thing he has left to offer is express pace, he needs to use it. He should take an example out of Shoaib's book and learn to bowl like him on flat wickets. Even in India 2007, when no one really knew how fit he was, or the extent of his injuries, Shoaib bowled superbly in one of the Test matches because he was getting immense movement and clocking over 90mph regularly, even when he wasn't at peak fitness.

Lee is, and hence, needs to sort this out.

 

[Bublu Bhuyan]

They certainly have no excuse now, this was the best pitch they would ever get for batting and bowling on this tour. They have not looked like winning the series so far.

Lee really needs to be castigated for his poor performance so far in the series. Even Siddle has bowled at his 100% in this series. But yes Australia's lack of proper spin options has been another hurdle in this series. But as far as the pacers are concerned they should have known what to expect and should have worked overdrive on getting the ball to reverse swing. I havent seen much reverse swing from anyone apart from Johnson.

As far their tactics are concerned, i think they must be really stupid and dumb to announce the tactics of putting a deep point, sweeper for the Indian batters to cut down on their boundries and make them boil and sweat for their runs just as they did in 2004. I mean Hello, this is 2008 now, dont you think the Indians remember what happened in 2004? Didnt the Aussies for a minute think "They wont make the same mistakes again and will bat patiently for their runs on this occasion". Besides tactics are only good as the people who execute them. Jason Gillespie, Mcgrath, even Kasprowicz to an extent were well known for keeping things tight and for holding an end up for as long as possible even when they werent taking wickets and with those 3 in one attack the pressure will be on the Indians. But it was naive and stupid for the Aussies to think Lee, Johnson, Clarke or Siddle would not leak runs. And Warne's loss is huge as it is.

Lee's main strength is his speed, and he haven't used that right throughout this series. The guy lacks swing and movements. Can't understand what he have been tying to achieve by putting a brake on his speed.

 

[maamrut]

It's obvious who doesn't understand reverse swing, and it's not Random Aussie, my friend

There are certain nuances of reverse-swing; a ball does not reverse after eight overs when the natural shine is still on the ball. It swings, but conventionally, because the shine is still on the ball. The bowlers can do whatever they want, but that general shine will not disappear until later on in the innings. Don't go all Ian Botham on us, mate.

Pretty naive really..

You need to get your head out of sand kid..reverse swing is not ypur monopoly,anymore.Everybody who saw the match and commentators saw the ball swing towards the shiny side.Its quite clever of the Indian pacers really they bowl seam upright foe 4 overs and then bowl cross-seamed for until the ball gets scuffed up.

but i guess,you(a distant nephew of wasim),should be obviously right..never mind the fact that thousands of people,saw what happened in slow motion replays.

 

[maamrut]

It's obvious who doesn't understand reverse swing, and it's not Random Aussie, my friend

.

fair enough if you didn't actually see the match live..if not,i think we know now who doesn't understand reverse swing,

 

[bones20]

Questions will be asked about the ball reverse swinging 8 overs into the innings I think.
That's a bit odd.

I just hope Indians dont overdo whatever it is they are doing to the ball. I am sure they are doing something weird. Even the Pakistanis dont reverse swing after 8 overs

Amusingly read on ICF that Zaheer has a thing against Aussies cos one of them sledged him about his house getting burnt down in the 2003 WC final.
Don't know if true but very funny.

How so? Imagine some mob burning down your house. You lose every which thing in the house and all the memories etc. And you are just imagining! Its pathetic Australians would rub on such unfortunate things. Its very easy to be insensitive at somebody's suffering. It completely summarizes the Australian cricket team. Disgusting. I dont think they deserve any human treatment.

And that now is exactly what the Indian team is doing.

Treating them like wild animals they are!

 

[Savak]

I just saw a few glimpses of the match. I have to say i have been impressed with the way Zaheer Khan and Sharma have bowled. They have definately made the ball talk in comparison to the Aussies. This new guy Mishra has definately been more threatening than Kumble but i am assuming Kumble went into the first test with an injury. I think the pressure on Kumble to resign could not get any worse.

India definately has the upper hand now, i wouldnt write the Aussies of if they had Symonds and Gilchrist in their team. The retirement of Gilchrist has left another huge void in the squad and i get the feeling perhaps the Aussies just might regret not having Symonds on tour.

But the Aussies sooner or later are going to be pulverized by the Indian bowlers at some point in the series at the same time while the Aussie bowlers are struggling to take wickets. Someone needs to have a chat with Lee i am afraid, he is proving to be a waste at the moment.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Well looks like india have all the trump cards at the moment. Runs on board and they have 4 aussie wickets already! Mr cricket will have to bail the Aussies out some how with help of watson, haddin and White. I can see India getting a big 1st inns lead here and then setting Aussies a huge total in 4th inns also!

 

[Manish26]

If Mishra has a very good match all together with Harbajan bowling well what are the selectors going to do when Kumble come's back? The difference in captaincy between Kumble and Dhoni was very apparent today. Dhoni led from the front with innovative field placings. Kumble was defensive and very predictable. The selectors should have their heads examined for making him captain for the whole series. In any case, making a bowler at the twilight of his career a captain was a bad move. It is allright as a stop-gap measure. Dhoni till today may not have had a great batting record in tests, but he is the wicket keeper and his contributions are adequate from that point of view. Great players step up to another level when elevated as captain. Tony Greig was a typical example. Hope the selectors will not pick Kumble if he does not merit selection purely as a player.

 

[Savak]

If Mishra has a very good match all together with Harbajan bowling well what are the selectors going to do when Kumble come's back? The difference in captaincy between Kumble and Dhoni was very apparent today. Dhoni led from the front with innovative field placings. Kumble was defensive and very predictable. The selectors should have their heads examined for making him captain for the whole series. In any case, making a bowler at the twilight of his career a captain was a bad move. It is allright as a stop-gap measure. Dhoni till today may not have had a great batting record in tests, but he is the wicket keeper and his contributions are adequate from that point of view. Great players step up to another level when elevated as captain. Tony Greig was a typical example. Hope the selectors will not pick Kumble if he does not merit selection purely as a player.

Agreed. Dhoni as he has proven in the past and now is a much better captain than Kumble. I think its curtains for Kumble now. His time is up and its only wise that he sees the writing on the wall.

 

[Tupac]

It's obvious who doesn't understand reverse swing, and it's not Random Aussie, my friend

There are certain nuances of reverse-swing; a ball does not reverse after eight overs when the natural shine is still on the ball. It swings, but conventionally, because the shine is still on the ball. The bowlers can do whatever they want, but that general shine will not disappear until later on in the innings. Don't go all Ian Botham on us, mate.

not necessarily...much depends on the weather, type of ball, abrsavness of the surface and square, grip and pace. When there is laminar flow it is much easier to swing, or reverse swing the ball. Generally the ball will swing conventially in the 8th over, but it is possible to reverse it provided the conditions are right.

Kapra was reversing it as early as the 6th over in the Bangalore test of 1998.

 

[bones20]

not necessarily...much depends on the weather, type of ball, abrsavness of the surface and square, grip and pace. When there is laminar flow it is much easier to swing, or reverse swing the ball. Generally the ball will swing conventially in the 8th over, but it is possible to reverse it provided the conditions are right.

Kapra was reversing it as early as the 6th over in the Bangalore test of 1998.

Seems very strange. We all know that the while ball reverses only after 35 overs at the earliest and mind you while ball is easier to work with than red ball. Even in tests I havent seen bowlers reversing before 40 overs with the red ball and that on a last day pitch.

I am an Indian and even I think this is highly speculative and questionable. Australians did comment on the scrambled seam technique. It has always been zaheer khan since a while now who stands out in swing and I dont think he has had much access to seniors around the world to guide him in reverse swing tips. This is a new phenomenon no doubt. I am sure people will find out soon and we will then have bowlers start reversing after over 8!

I would have liked somebody like Pathan, RPsingh or Sreesanth in place of Ishant to exploit this best.

 

[tmac4real]

I'm afraid of that khajur Hussey. He is quite annoying and can do some damage to draw the match.

 

[jusarrived]

that last wicket , i would give a lot of credit to Dhoni as well ....did any one hear him saying "Wicket ke ithar-se dalega" and mishra comes around the wicket for the last 2 balls and gets Clarke out ....!

in the last 2-3 years , our bowling has been top notch be it ishant , zaheer , rp or sree in the team ......the credit should go to prasad , who to me has played a major role in their growth ....prasad IMO was the smartest bowler india has ever produced , sadly he dint have the pace or talent of srinath .....am not surprised hes proving to be a very good coach !

 

[Bumblebee]

Seconded!!! dhoni did an awsome job!

 

[Rickz]

Australia are in deep trouble now, 102-4 with a deficit of 267! Hussey can bat, with only Watson and Haddin as the two other genuine batsmen. The game is not over yet, tommorow is the most crucial day for both teams. India has to sustain the pressure and take wickets. On the other hand, Australia simply need a big partnership.

 

[in_cutter]

Aussies outplayed so far in this match...but I reckon Hussey/Watson have something up their sleeves.

 

[Random Aussie]

How so? Imagine some mob burning down your house. You lose every which thing in the house and all the memories etc. And you are just imagining! Its pathetic Australians would rub on such unfortunate things. Its very easy to be insensitive at somebody's suffering. It completely summarizes the Australian cricket team. Disgusting. I dont think they deserve any human treatment.

No surprise I don't really agree with you Bones, the players are happy to take the vast riches on offer from having such popularity, give interviews every day, appear in commercials and make their fortunes from being the heroes of India.
The flip side is that things go bad if they perform poorly and part of that is a reflection of the market presence they have and the way they allow themselves to be portrayed in the media.

 

[bones20]

No surprise I don't really agree with you Bones, the players are happy to take the vast riches on offer from having such popularity, give interviews every day, appear in commercials and make their fortunes from being the heroes of India.
The flip side is that things go bad if they perform poorly and part of that is a reflection of the market presence they have and the way they allow themselves to be portrayed in the media.

My point was not about the deal with Indian players and crowd. My point was that Zaheer khan's house getting burned was extremely unfortunate. Its not something one should use for mental disintegration. In Aussie terms, its crossing the line.

Eg. M clark's father had cancer when India toured last time. Mcgrath's wife has had cancer. Sledging on such personal serious issues is way overboard as you may recall how one "Mr. Mcgrath" reacted (yelling and spitting) when he was abused "in return" over his wife. this is similar. Somebody's house was burnt and you try to use that to upset him in a match? View the 2 incidences with an even eye.

What was surprising is that you write that you find it funny.

 

[SalaamPakistan]

My point was not about the deal with Indian players and crowd. My point was that Zaheer khan's house getting burned was extremely unfortunate. Its not something one should use for mental disintegration. In Aussie terms, its crossing the line.

Eg. M clark's father had cancer when India toured last time. Mcgrath's wife has had cancer. Sledging on such personal serious issues is way overboard as you may recall how one "Mr. Mcgrath" reacted (yelling and spitting) when he was abused "in return" over his wife. this is similar. Somebody's house was burnt and you try to use that to upset him in a match? View the 2 incidences with an even eye.

What was surprising is that you write that you find it funny.

What RA meant way that it's pretty normal in India. If India loses the WC again, then Indian cricketers are bound to receive these treatment again. This has been happening for so long. Since, incident like these have become normal routine now. What is there to witness unfortunate if considered unfortunate as a normal routine. My comment does sound bit harsh, but it is completely true, and same goes with Pakistan. I find nothing wrong what RA has said

 

[Random Aussie]

My point was not about the deal with Indian players and crowd. My point was that Zaheer khan's house getting burned was extremely unfortunate. Its not something one should use for mental disintegration. In Aussie terms, its crossing the line.

Eg. M clark's father had cancer when India toured last time. Mcgrath's wife has had cancer. Sledging on such personal serious issues is way overboard as you may recall how one "Mr. Mcgrath" reacted (yelling and spitting) when he was abused "in return" over his wife. this is similar. Somebody's house was burnt and you try to use that to upset him in a match? View the 2 incidences with an even eye.

What was surprising is that you write that you find it funny.

Bones they weren't sledging him after his house had been burnt down (not sure if it was) which I agree would be distasteful.
They were sledging him that his house might get burnt down because he had bowled so badly.

 

[SalaamPakistan]

Bones they weren't sledging him after his house had been burnt down (not sure if it was) which I agree would be distasteful.
They were sledging him that his house might get burnt down because he had bowled so badly.

That's unexpected, if not, never thought that if a player perform poor, could expect his house to get burnt down. Sachin has disappointed Indian fans a lot of time especially the departure after his century to led the team experience in trouble when needed 15 or less than 15 runs to win . They are very picky.

 

[Romali_rotti]

that last wicket , i would give a lot of credit to Dhoni as well ....did any one hear him saying "Wicket ke ithar-se dalega" and mishra comes around the wicket for the last 2 balls and gets Clarke out ....!

in the last 2-3 years , our bowling has been top notch be it ishant , zaheer , rp or sree in the team ......the credit should go to prasad , who to me has played a major role in their growth ....prasad IMO was the smartest bowler india has ever produced , sadly he dint have the pace or talent of srinath .....am not surprised hes proving to be a very good coach !

Heard that!!!!!! Question for everyone is Dhoni the best captian to come out of the sub continent since Imran Khan ?