India vs England | Tri-Series | Brisbane | 20th January 2015

[Aman]

Trundler imo is anyone who clocks less than 140ks consistently.

130-139 - Medium pacer (trundler)
140-145 - Fast bowler
140-150 or over - genuine quick bowler

 

[hur rizvi]

Nobody has said Junaid is express. He is just not a trundler.

Agree, TRundlers are bowlers who dont have ability to average 135kph or more over the course of 10 overs

 

[Thivagar]

Some of you need to face 133km/h "trundelers" in nets. Lets see if you can even follow keep your eyes on it.

 

[Aman]

Nobody has said Junaid is express. He is just not a trundler.

If he's not quick, what is he then? Anything less than 140ks is trundler territory.

 

[Sandeep]

Binny?

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Binny playing the greatest knock down under

 

[Thivagar]

Our motherland getting pounded by her colonial son

 

[adnan yasin]

 

[desi_launda]

Bunny showing no respect for Ali bhaijaan

 

[JaDed]

Wasn't Binny named in some match fixing report man if you have a father as a selector what not can happen.

 

[JaDed]

Bunny showing no respect for Ali bhaijaan

Yeah Raina showed enough!

 

[Enforcer]

Binny teaching Raina to play spin.

 

[hur rizvi]

Trundler imo is anyone who clocks less than 140ks consistently.

130-139 - Medium pacer (trundler)
140-145 - Fast bowler
140-150 or over - genuine quick bowler

By average pace:

Average 145-150 kph Genuine fast/Express
Average 140-145 kph Fast bowler
Average 135-139 kph Fast Medium bowlers
Average 130-135 kph Medium fast bowlers (Trundlers)
Average 125-130 kph Trundlers
Average less than 125 kph dibbly dobbly

 

[adnan yasin]

134/5 in 34 overs

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Trundler imo is anyone who clocks less than 140ks consistently.

130-139 - Medium pacer (trundler)
140-145 - Fast bowler
140-150 or over - genuine quick bowler

Totally agree brother. It's nice to put the standards so high. I remember a time when 150 - 155 was express quick, we don't get to see it anymore.

What about the bowlers who are below 130 kph, Bhuvi, Kula, Binny etc at 120 - 130 kph, (spinning trundler)

 

[Buffet]

When he is fully fit he bows in 140s, lower 140s especially in his first spell but he is rarely fully fit.

I have seen him bowling in 140s as well but most of the time I see him in 135-140 range. Anyway, bowling with control is far more useful than being a spray gun.

 

[desi_launda]

PP taken

 

[JaDed]

Lets see how they face Finn

 

[Aman]

Totally agree brother. It's nice to put the standards so high. I remember a time when 150 - 155 was express quick, we don't get to see it anymore.

What about the bowlers who are below 130 kph, Bhuvi, Kula, Binny etc at 120 - 130 kph, (spinning trundler)

Standards shouldn't be lowered because we've lost 3-4 speedsters

 

[Anfield]

I have seen him bowling in 140s as well but most of the time I see him in 135-140 range. Anyway, bowling with control is far more useful than being a spray gun.

Sounds about right. Few of his deliveries would go over 140 but mostly he remains between 135-140 kph unless he is in a very good rhythm then he will clock quite a few over 140. Your wrist position and your line and length is more important than the speed in modern cricket. Asif with his great seam position got more nip off the pitch then Sami ever did with 150 kph deliveries.

 

[Justcrazy]

India have recovered well here

 

[hur rizvi]

Sounds about right. Few of his deliveries would go over 140 but mostly he remains between 135-140 kph unless he is in a very good rhythm then he will clock quite a few over 140. Your wrist position and your line and length is more important than the speed in modern cricket. Asif with his great seam position got more nip off the pitch then Sami ever did with 150 kph deliveries.

135-140 kph is not trundling in my opinion specially if bowler has ability to surprise you with a ball of 90 mph

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Dhoni dropped on 33

 

[Thivagar]

LOL binny too interested in his bat

 

[Anfield]

By average pace:

Average 145-150 kph Genuine fast/Express
Average 140-145 kph Fast bowler
Average 135-139 kph Fast Medium bowlers
Average 130-135 kph Medium fast bowlers (Trundlers)
Average 125-130 kph Trundlers
Average less than 125 kph dibbly dobbly

I'll say from 135 to 145 kph you're fast medium over 145 is fast and then Over 150kph is extremely quick.

 

[Justcrazy]

Anderson drops an easy catch

 

[Aman]

135-140 kph is not trundling in my opinion specially if bowler has ability to surprise you with a ball of 90 mph

Even todays batting A/R's are capable of bowling at those speeds...

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Finn strikes 4fer for Finn

Binny needs to play a Hussey like innings now

 

[Anfield]

just to add to my previous quote.. I agree with the rest of your post.

 

[Random Aussie]

When the WC rolls around, and the same speed guns are used, some posters on here going to be a little surprised with Junaid Khan. Quick he is not. Irfan is quick.

 

[jattafridi]

Dhoni

 

[Justcrazy]

137 / 5

36 overs

 

[desi_launda]

selfish innings from dhobi

 

[Buffet]

India have recovered well here

Will struggle to get to 200 here.

 

[OZGOD]

Here come the cowlashers


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[hur rizvi]

I'll say from 135 to 145 kph you're fast medium over 145 is fast and then Over 150kph is extremely quick.

I was going by average speeds a 145-150 kph average bowler would have few deliveries above 150 kph so he will be extremely quick

 

[NZcricketfan]

Junaid fast? he is a 135-140 bowler.

 

[Thivagar]

Anything below 125 km/h are trundlers. Even 125 is now slow as you think.

 

[Justcrazy]

six down

 

[Buffet]

selfish innings from dhobi

Yah, he should have tried to play 12(8) kind of inning after half of his team was back in hut for 60 odd runs.

 

[OZGOD]

Finn gets fifer axar is castled


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[Thivagar]

Anything below 125 km/h are trundlers. Even 125 is now slow as you think.

"not

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

5fer

 

[Buffet]

Finn on hat trick.......

 

[hur rizvi]

When the WC rolls around, and the same speed guns are used, some posters on here going to be a little surprised with Junaid Khan. Quick he is not. Irfan is quick.

Irfan sure is quicker than Junaid but point of whole discussion was that Junaid does bowl around 138-140 kph average pace specially when pitches are friendly and that is not trundling

 

[OZGOD]

What ever they did to turn Finn into a trundler it seems to have worked wonders


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[Anfield]

When the WC rolls around, and the same speed guns are used, some posters on here going to be a little surprised with Junaid Khan. Quick he is not. Irfan is quick.

He isn't quick he is borderline fast medium. If you believe anyone other then a quick is a trundler then yeah he is one.

 

[RamLakhan]

India is missing Sri Sri Ravindra Jadeja here!

 

[Justcrazy]

Seven gone

Patel out

 

[Enforcer]

India made harakiri on a pitch which is good enough for 270-280 total. Stepping out to fastbbowlers as if it is chennai Rahane tried to be over aggressive , as if India is going to post 350. Ditto for Kohli. And posters here thinking this pitch is much bowling-friendly that what we have seen in tests A sensible batting could have led us to 280 for sure

 

[NZcricketfan]

It is a bloody travesty that India are ranked second

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

selfish innings from dhobi

True man, ASHWIN will come and playing a klusener like innings now

 

[Thivagar]

Guju kid gone. This is not Rajkot son. I feel sorry for his friend who comes on PP. He missed an exam to see Axar making his debut vs Bangladesh.

 

[hur rizvi]

Junaid fast? he is a 135-140 bowler.

Fast medium but not a trundler

 

[Buffet]

Finn on hat trick.......

Eh, bowled too far outside.

 

[NZcricketfan]

Fast medium but not a trundler

Pretty much. I don't consider 135-140 trundling. You will find most bowlers including dale steyn have an average between 135-140

 

[Shaheerthe2nd]

binny has more guts than dhawan does

 

[adnan yasin]

is it necessary that every bouncer should be pulled or hooked ?? even if its not in your zone ?

 

[Thivagar]

India made harakiri on a pitch which is good enough for 270-280 total. Stepping out to fastbbowlers as if it is chennai Rahane tried to be over aggressive , as if India is going to post 350. Ditto for Kohli. And posters here thinking this pitch is much bowling-friendly that what we have seen in tests A sensible batting could have led us to 280 for sure

SPEAK ENGLISH !!!

 

[Anfield]

What ever they did to turn Finn into a trundler it seems to have worked wonders


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They tried everything on Finn and when they completely failed him they left him alone.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Guju kid gone. This is not Rajkot son. I feel sorry for his friend who comes on PP. He missed an exam to see Axar making his debut vs Bangladesh.

It was just an excuse to miss his exam lol

 

[Buffet]

It is a bloody travesty that India are ranked second

When all said and done they are the defending WC and champions trophy winner.

 

[iHammad]

Can't wait to watch Aaj Tak at the innings break

 

[NZcricketfan]

When all said and done they are the defending WC and champions trophy winner.

They are not defending world cup champions in oceania and that is all that matters.

 

[Enforcer]

smashsome boundaries guys, atleast reach 180

 

[hur rizvi]

Even todays batting A/R's are capable of bowling at those speeds...

135-140 kph average speed bowlers are capable of crossing 90 mph with ease when they want specially if they belong to high 130s region

 

[Buffet]

They are not defending world cup champions in oceania and that is all that matters.

Your comment was about rank 2 and all cricket is not played in oceania.

 

[desi_launda]

They are not defending world cup champions in oceania and that is all that matters.

just whitewashed SL,your bogey team

 

[NZcricketfan]

Your comment was about rank 2 and all cricket is not played in oceania.

To me a number 2 ranked team competes in all conditions. South Africa is a number 2 team. India is not

 

[Enforcer]

Binny will take a 5-fer and troll england

 

[iHammad]

Wasim Akram doing hindi commentary on SS3

 

[Thivagar]

When all said and done they are the defending WC and champions trophy winner.

Buffet are you an Afrikaan or English in terms of your ethnicity ?

 

[Anfield]

When all said and done they are the defending WC and champions trophy winner.

4 years of cricket matters as well. WC is a very prestigious tournament but it's one tournament, it doesn't automatically makes you the best team for 4 years. Said that I believe India is a top ODI side, not playing like one right now though.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Anderson

Bowled em

 

[desi_launda]

lavish movement from Andu

 

[OZGOD]

Bhuvneshwar castled Indian 8 down


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[iHammad]

Unka paer kahin gaya hi nahi - Gavaskar on Bhuvi's footwork

 

[JaDed]

ATROCIOUS the format that we actually are a decent team at atrocious.

 

[NZcricketfan]

just whitewashed SL,your bogey team

And we would have whitewashed you 5-0 if it wasn't for an incredibly dubious umpiring call which resulted in a tie

 

[desi_launda]

the decision to bat first was almost as foolish as batting first against SA in 2008 series on a green pitch(we were all out for 76 in 20 overs)