India vs Pakistan | 22nd Match, World Cup | Manchester | June 16 | Pre-Match Discussion Thread

[Kroll]

Time to beat India for once (in the World Cup) - How do we do it?

The time to play the arch-rivals in the WC arena is fast approaching once again. As the match is in my home town, I really hope the streak can be ended here and we go on to record a famous victory. Given that we'll be facing a superior side, how are we going to do it?

Obviously the strategy on the day will depend on who gets to bat/bowl first and what the target will be for the chasing side. But as seen from CT 17, getting the like of Kohli and Rohit out will early will certainly improve our chances.

Another key factor could be how we play Bumrah with his variations and yorkers especially if we're battling to get runs at the death. In attempting to negate Bumrah, I hope the hope batters don't get pinned down but come out and smoke him out of the park.

The batting will need to play with calmness and composure as all too well we have seen in these past encounters the Indian team tends to handle these WC pressure matches better than us. I don't want us to expose the middle order too early as this could be our weak link.

All suggestions are welcome such as launching a pigeon over the border nearer the time; the Indians calling foul saying it's a spy and an act of aggression thereby forfeiting the match and handing us the 2 points. The day before the match, someone "accidentally" stomping on Kohli's foot hence he can't play due to injury.

With 3 months left till the big game, how can we go about beating India? What say you?

 

[giri26]

It is easy to beat this Indian team. you just have to hope that the top 3 have a bad day and you are in. If the top 3 score, then it becomes difficult to keep the team under 300. This is probably India's weakest middle order in a while, any team can run through it if they get through the top order.

 

[junaidji]

It is easy to beat this Indian team. you just have to hope that the top 3 have a bad day and you are in. If the top 3 score, then it becomes difficult to keep the team under 300. This is probably India's weakest middle order in a while, any team can run through it if they get through the top order.

Haha we said the same thing about the Indian Asia Cup team that didn't have Kohli, yet we still got whacked twice. With Pakistan you never know.

 

[msb314]

The time to play the arch-rivals in the WC arena is fast approaching once again. As the match is in my home town, I really hope the streak can be ended here and we go on to record a famous victory. Given that we'll be facing a superior side, how are we going to do it?

Obviously the strategy on the day will depend on who gets to bat/bowl first and what the target will be for the chasing side. But as seen from CT 17, getting the like of Kohli and Rohit out will early will certainly improve our chances.

Another key factor could be how we play Bumrah with his variations and yorkers especially if we're battling to get runs at the death. In attempting to negate Bumrah, I hope the hope batters don't get pinned down but come out and smoke him out of the park.

The batting will need to play with calmness and composure as all too well we have seen in these past encounters the Indian team tends to handle these WC pressure matches better than us. I don't want us to expose the middle order too early as this could be our weak link.

All suggestions are welcome such as launching a pigeon over the border nearer the time; the Indians calling foul saying it's a spy and an act of aggression thereby forfeiting the match and handing us the 2 points. The day before the match, someone "accidentally" stomping on Kohli's foot hence he can't play due to injury.

With 3 months left till the big game, how can we go about beating India? What say you?

Bat first and bat big - post 320+ like we did in the 2017 CT final.

Bowl full and straight and hopefully we can take out the Indian top order and put pressure on their relatively weak middle order - the pressure of the occasion and the chase may trigger a collapse on their end.

 

[junaidji]

Honestly, I will say luck. India without a doubt have the psychological advantage. Our players don't have as good temprament compared to their players, who are cool, calm, and collected. They crumble quickly under pressure. Unless either Amir or Hasan can dismantle their top order quickly, or/and either Fakhar or Babar make a century, I will say the match goes to India. It's all about luck, and it would just have to be on Pakistan's side.

 

[khan_aa]

Dont unerestimate pakistan this time.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Small thinking. teams and fans should expect nothing less than the world cup. morsels of consolation wins is for losers.

 

[Usman Chadda]

What's this obsession with India?

There are eight other teams at the World Cup too. The ultimate goal is to win the whole damn thing, not worry about beating one of the teams who is in our way.

 

[Gullycricket]

Feel India is a bit overrated by us.Australia showed that you can beat them in succession if you bowl tight.Also someone from top 3 for us needs to get a big hundred.Fakhar did in CT and Khawaja did the same in recent series.
I know its easier said than done but this should be the blueprint.This means non selection of bowlers like UKS who will release all pressure.

 

[MenInG]

Indian spin sensation Kuldeep Yadav on Tuesday revealed the names of the team to watch out for other than India at the upcoming ICC World Cup 2019 which starts from May 30 in England and Wales. Kuldeep has picked Pakistan and England as the other two favourites for the elusive title.

Most veterans of the game have backed England to lift the trophy given their batting depth and all-round abilities in the squad while also being the home team. And they are also naming India as the other title favourite. However, as the World Cup date approaches, many have also reckoned the names of Australia as a dark horse following their stellar come-from-behind win in the recently-concluded ODI series against India at their home backyard. And the name of Pakistan as well given that they had scripted a remarkable Champions Trophy win in England back in 2017.

Kuldeep feels confident about the Indian team lifting their third World Cup trophy. But did name Pakistan and England as the watch-out teams and explained the reason behind his opinion.

"We definitely have the chance to bring the World Cup home. Apart from us I think all the other teams are really strong. But I feel England has a strong batting lineup as compared to the other teams. They will be playing in home conditions.

"I think Pakistan will also perform well in the World Cup looking at the way they have been performing. So I think England and Pakistan will be the ones to watch out for," Kuldeep Yadav told Sports Tak.

India are yet to decide their World Cup squad as the middle-order lineup still remains uncertain. The main concern for India surrounds the debatable No. 4 spot for which the selectors have auditioned 11 players since Champions Trophy 2017 but have been left impressed by none. Barring that slot, India are yet to decide on their second-choice wicketkeeper-batsman and a fourth seamer.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...eams-to-watch-out-for-in-icc-world-cup/385795

 

[Dr_Bassim]

So will it be okay if we win the World Cup but lose to India ?

 

[a_tahir]

Indian spin sensation Kuldeep Yadav on Tuesday revealed the names of the team to watch out for other than India at the upcoming ICC World Cup 2019 which starts from May 30 in England and Wales. Kuldeep has picked Pakistan and England as the other two favourites for the elusive title.

Most veterans of the game have backed England to lift the trophy given their batting depth and all-round abilities in the squad while also being the home team. And they are also naming India as the other title favourite. However, as the World Cup date approaches, many have also reckoned the names of Australia as a dark horse following their stellar come-from-behind win in the recently-concluded ODI series against India at their home backyard. And the name of Pakistan as well given that they had scripted a remarkable Champions Trophy win in England back in 2017.

Kuldeep feels confident about the Indian team lifting their third World Cup trophy. But did name Pakistan and England as the watch-out teams and explained the reason behind his opinion.

"We definitely have the chance to bring the World Cup home. Apart from us I think all the other teams are really strong. But I feel England has a strong batting lineup as compared to the other teams. They will be playing in home conditions.

"I think Pakistan will also perform well in the World Cup looking at the way they have been performing. So I think England and Pakistan will be the ones to watch out for," Kuldeep Yadav told Sports Tak.

India are yet to decide their World Cup squad as the middle-order lineup still remains uncertain. The main concern for India surrounds the debatable No. 4 spot for which the selectors have auditioned 11 players since Champions Trophy 2017 but have been left impressed by none. Barring that slot, India are yet to decide on their second-choice wicketkeeper-batsman and a fourth seamer.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...eams-to-watch-out-for-in-icc-world-cup/385795

Ask chahal as well. Lol.

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

Score enough runs to make a good game of it. Old Trafford isn’t a big scoring ground. 280 make a really good game of it.

 

[Mamoon]

Imran, Wasim and to an extent Waqar are responsible for this streak. The streak only became a talking point after 2003 when it became 4-0, and all the subsequent captains have been under immense pressure and scrutiny to get the monkey off our backs. 1992, 1996 and 1999 were the best opportunities to beat India. Especially 1992 and 1999 - we have no excuses for not winning those games.

By 2003, India were clearly the better team and our 90's generation was on its last legs, while their team was boosted by the emergence of several top young players that eventually changed the dynamics of Indian cricket and left Pakistan in their dust.

As much as I despise Sarfaraz, I won't blame him much if he bottles this game, which he probably will. We have developed a fear of India in World Cups and simply freeze in the moment. In spite of being a much weaker team since 2001/2002, we have still managed to beat them in bilaterals, Asia Cups and Champions Trophies, but when it comes to the World Cup, we also find a way to wilt under pressure.

Unless we can produce another Champions Trophy final style fluke, India are 80-20 favourites for this game, but we should not be over-critical of our players and our captain, because this is the legacy of some of our most celebrated cricketers of all time and the last couple of generations of Pakistani players are simply paying a price for their failure.

Nevertheless, Pakistani fans should brace themselves for getting trolled like never before. Considering the recent tensions between the two countries, India is going to rub it in like never before. The like of Sehwag, Gambhir, Arnab and other bhakhts etc. are going to celebrate as if they have conquered Pakistan, and they will make sure that we will never forget about it.

On the brighter side, this is also the perfect time for the streak to end. If Indians think that we trolled them hard after the Champions Trophy, you have no idea what is going to happen if we fluke a win here. Our bhakhts are as good as the Indian ones when it comes to trolling and trash-talking. The Indian media is also going to blow their top and attack the Indian players like never before. They will forget all their achievements and legends like Kohli, Dhoni and Rohit etc. will be ducking for cover.

For various common and uncommon reasons, to say that this match is a must-win for both teams would be an understatement.

 

[in_cutter]

After all the tough talk recently (Kashmir row), Indians will be expecting their boys to beat Pakistan. They are the ones under pressure.

 

[SM1989]

The time to play the arch-rivals in the WC arena is fast approaching once again. As the match is in my home town, I really hope the streak can be ended here and we go on to record a famous victory. Given that we'll be facing a superior side, how are we going to do it?

Obviously the strategy on the day will depend on who gets to bat/bowl first and what the target will be for the chasing side. But as seen from CT 17, getting the like of Kohli and Rohit out will early will certainly improve our chances.

Another key factor could be how we play Bumrah with his variations and yorkers especially if we're battling to get runs at the death. In attempting to negate Bumrah, I hope the hope batters don't get pinned down but come out and smoke him out of the park.

The batting will need to play with calmness and composure as all too well we have seen in these past encounters the Indian team tends to handle these WC pressure matches better than us. I don't want us to expose the middle order too early as this could be our weak link.

All suggestions are welcome such as launching a pigeon over the border nearer the time; the Indians calling foul saying it's a spy and an act of aggression thereby forfeiting the match and handing us the 2 points. The day before the match, someone "accidentally" stomping on Kohli's foot hence he can't play due to injury.

With 3 months left till the big game, how can we go about beating India? What say you?

Just hope it rains and the match gets abandoned. Or hope that India follow through on their threat of forfeiting the match.

 

[warcry]

india v pakistan is overrated. those of you who hype this match need to grow up.

the objective is to reach the semi finals. winning against india is not necessarily required too advance in the group stage.

anything else is a bonus.

 

[Salman]

Pakistan just need to take one game at a time, our decent pace attack will be a big threat to most teams on the early English summer wickets.

The Indian media will take care of piling on the pressure on team india for us.

 

[PakLFC]

Win the toss and bat first getting over 300 like in the CT final. We have the bowling to restrict if not dismiss Bharat for a cheap score if they're batting under pressure chasing a high score. If Bharat wins the toss they could very well just bat us out of the match. Only way we can win is by batting first unless it rains and overs are restricted. Currently it's 60-40 to India.

 

[Pak Warrior]

We need to get lucky with the toss, hopefully we bat first and then perform with the willow to score a solid score that results in pressure on india to try to chase. We need to get our batsmen as much time to practice and get used to the English conditions before this match.

Next our bowlers need to show up, and show the world on the biggest stage why we are the best fast bowlers in the world. If they can play to their full potential then they will make our job easier.

Lastly we need to support our players and coaches in strategic ways to handle the pressure and make a good gameplan for the opposition. For pressure our players can start practicing meditation and yoga techniques to clear their mind, and stay focused no matter how much noise and pressure they face. These are just some suggestions that come to mind

 

[Bilal7]

Try to make Gambhir relevant again and simply give out a press statement saying that not playing India in the World Cup will hurt Pakistan. A lot.

They'll forfeit and there goes the streak.

 

[Sachin136]

Try to make Gambhir relevant again and simply give out a press statement saying that not playing India in the World Cup will hurt Pakistan. A lot.

They'll forfeit and there goes the streak.

What does Gambhir have to do with the BCCI?

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

As long as our batting doesn't choke we should be Ok.

It all depends on the way Imam and Fakhar start and how Babar guides the innings.

Later Amir should take care of Sharma/Dhawan/VK

 

[Red Devil]

Score more runs than them.

 

[jnaveen1980]

As a pessimistic India fan, i always thought it would be a 50/50 in an India pakistan match. For the first time in my life i was feeling India would win the match 100% was in CT final despite their middle order weakness. Because pakistan carried some unknown members. Largely on paper they were significantly weaker. But they had a near perfect day. No reason why they can't have another near perfect day. Kohli and Shastri made sure this line up is uncertain by chopping and changing. I still think India has the edge but not 100% sure because Kohli is such a rubbish captain. In Asia cup Rohti sharma captained. Not Kohli. Kohli would have lost it.

 

[Canford Cliffs]

Pick top 3 and expose middle order asap. That should be the mantra every team will follow against India. Also, dont think Pak (if bats first) will score 300 at Old Trafford. Its no flat pancake like Oval and always assist seamers.

 

[pakistani pride]

Amir has to deliver simple as that. He is the player that can make PAK win. Certain posters dont even want him on the plane to the UK but he can make PAK win.

He has the experience and can deliver. Got Tendulker out cheaply in 2009 and dismissed Kohli very quickly in 2017.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Catches win matches. Do not drop sitters and they will have a good chance of beating India.

 

[BakuGM]

Pick top 3 and expose middle order asap. That should be the mantra every team will follow against India. Also, dont think Pak (if bats first) will score 300 at Old Trafford. Its no flat pancake like Oval and always assist seamers.

Old Trafford not being a flat pancake gives me the most comfort as Pakistan can only win via their bowling attack. We have to accept that India is much better in the batting department but good bowling neutralizes this advantage. I give 70-30% edge to India but still feel that Pakistan has a chance of winning this game.

 

[UAK]

The India-Pakistan WC match battle will be won off the field before the match. I want Sarfaraz to come out for press conference one day before the match and say "I wouldn't mind if we lose to India as long as we play fearless cricket and give our 100%".

This is the only way to overcome the pressure that we have in our minds. Only after this we could compete with our skills with India on the field.

 

[troodon]

Get Top 3 for under 100 and watch India limp to 175.

This Indian team is overrated and that middle order is worse than BD's middle order.

 

[BaankeJi]

Pakistan has to field well. Other things will fall in place.

 

[gazza619]

Need to open the bowling with Abbass and Hasnain to break the back of the Indian top order

 

[Mp812]

Get Top 3 for under 100 and watch India limp to 175.

This Indian team is overrated and that middle order is worse than BD's middle order.

Pakistan knows the quality of BD middle order from last Asia cup encounter but unfortunately Pakistan never got a shot at Indian middle order in two attempts at Asia cup

 

[light]

Our greatest strength is our top 3 (with current Rohit's and Dawan's form, its a one man batting team). Get rid of them quickly, your chance of winning amplifies greatly. Dhoni is a liability aswell so basically we play with a 10 man team + 1 liability.

 

[Kroll]

Our greatest strength is our top 3 (with current Rohit's and Dawan's form, its a one man batting team). Get rid of them quickly, your chance of winning amplifies greatly. Dhoni is a liability aswell so basically we play with a 10 man team + 1 liability.

Easier said than done and Dhoni in form right now.

 

[Bhaijaan]

I don’t see Pakistan coming back to beat India an ODI game.

They would have to get the better if the conditions in first 15-20 overs.

If it’s a bowling pitch, get 3-4 Indian batsmen out in first 15 overs.

If it’s a batting pitch, be 120/1 in 20 and finish with 300+ runs

India scores 250 on any pitch, will defend.

India will chase down any total below 280

 

[Chokli]

[MENTION=148409]rockyboy2018[/MENTION]

said we will beat India

 

[Mp812]

One can always hope it rains on match day. India wont be defeated but Pakistan will end streak in technical terms

 

[Mkumar825]

Pak will beat India

 

[Mkumar825]

One can always hope it rains on match day. India wont be defeated but Pakistan will end streak in technical terms

Why they can't beat India .

 

[shane]

Logically speaking, it is hard to see how one of Pakistan's worst teams of all time could beat one of India's best. But logic counts for nothing with Pakistan on a given day.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Logically speaking, it is hard to see how one of Pakistan's worst teams of all time could beat one of India's best. But logic counts for nothing with Pakistan on a given day.

Pakistan doesn't follow logic, specially when it comes to tournaments.

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

Restrict India to 240 or less and chase it down, or score 330 or more and defend it.

 

[Captain caveman]

India are a decent professional.team, not exceptional say like England whosr batting is exceptional( though suspect against top quality spin).
Pakistan just needs to play professionaly against india and it will be a 50/50 game.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Easily done. You guys beat England on a flat track! India can only hope for a respectable defeat. Pakistan are outright favourites after the last match. If you can't beat this hapless Indian team, even your great grandchildren will never see the streak end.

 

[BaankeJi]

Easily done. You guys beat England on a flat track! India can only hope for a respectable defeat. Pakistan are outright favourites after the last match. If you can't beat this hapless Indian team, even your great grandchildren will never see the streak end.

I second that. This is Pakistan's best chance.

 

[Ram Shekhar]

After having watched the games, I feel Pakistan has a greater batting depth than India - Babar, Hafeez are playing better than Kohli, Dhawan. Fakhar is due a big innings and who better than India to score against! Malik is anyway India basher and will be able to score off the wrist spinners easily. However, the main differentiator I see is Asif Ali whom India never really faced.

Pakistan bowling also got the mojo back in the last game. Amir, Wahab, Shadab looked very sharp under pressure. Hasan Ali still has to gain full confidence back.

All in all, Pakistan actually looks super confident and have a better team as well. India will be under pressure!

 

[Captain caveman]

I second that. This is Pakistan's best chance.

lol Best chance.
1992, 1996 and 1999 we should of beaten these weak indian sides and we failed.
2003 and 2011, like this wc were 50/50 and guess what we lost both.
2015 india were far superior to us.
Should be 3 :3
Could have been 5 : 1 to us
Actually is 6 : 0 to them! Maybe soon to be 7 : 0 to them!

 

[castortroy]

I'm sorry but in the world Cup it's just a big mental block. Fully expect India to beat pak again

Indian bowling line up is one of the best they have had. For me that will be the biggest worry, more so than there batting

 

[docteurmanish]

Think key is putting up a big score batting first.
Every other way u gonna loose .

 

[Captain caveman]

I second that. This is Pakistan's best chance.

I'm not sure nikhill is being genuine!
Perhaps reverse psychology i.e. jinx ?

 

[Harshu814]

Hope to have swing favourable conditions and win the toss

If there is no swing then i think pakistan have little chanc

 

[Harshu814]

Pakistan doesn't follow logic, specially when it comes to tournaments.

Its india's best bowling attack so far, about batting any indian poster will tell you its not, its really fragile batting can hardly chase 270+ scores nowdays.

Still as a team they somehow comes up good

 

[big_gamer007]

Pakistan can only win if Amir gets Rohit and Kohli out early. Both Kohli and amir are susceptible to left handers bowling over the wicket bring the ball in and the one that holds line.

Amir in past has shown he can do it if he shows up and does it again Pakistan has good chance of winning. If not then game over.

 

[big_gamer007]

This thread is full of jinx and reverse jinx and reverse reverse jinx posts.. funny really

 

[Kroll]

Its india's best bowling attack so far, about batting any indian poster will tell you its not, its really fragile batting can hardly chase 270+ scores nowdays.

Still as a team they somehow comes up good

I really liked the way Pak attacked the English bowlers right from the get go. There was apprehension beforehand as Woakes has a good record against Pak and Wood & Archer were brought in to bounce out the Pakistani batsmen but the plan failed due to Pak batsmen attitude and approach. They'll need that self belief and fearlessness again when facing Bumrah and Bhuvi. They will also need to keep rotating strike against the spinners and not get bogged down.

 

[Harshu814]

I really liked the way Pak attacked the English bowlers right from the get go. There was apprehension beforehand as Woakes has a good record against Pak and Wood & Archer were brought in to bounce out the Pakistani batsmen but the plan failed due to Pak batsmen attitude and approach. They'll need that self belief and fearlessness again when facing Bumrah and Bhuvi. They will also need to keep rotating strike against the spinners and not get bogged down.

Ofc if they can maintain good RR vs indian pace duo theyll come good.but not always bumrah will bowl a noball on wicket

Key will be to takeout indian top3 within 20 overs, otherwise india can chase any target pak will set
If they do remove them india has high chance of crumbling to pressure with even 270 on board

 

[GrandMaster]

Only player who can win it for Pakistan is Amir. I don't see Pakistan batsmen repeating the feat against decent Indian bowling attack.

 

[Captain caveman]

Pakistan can only win if Amir gets Rohit and Kohli out early. Both Kohli and amir are susceptible to left handers bowling over the wicket bring the ball in and the one that holds line.

Amir in past has shown he can do it if he shows up and does it again Pakistan has good chance of winning. If not then game over.

This is an amir coming to the end of his career, he wont get kohli or rohit out cheaply, if at all.
Best bet is hasnain. He might go for alot of runs, but he will trouble every indian bat, especially if safi places some slips for him. Otherwise wait till 35+ over for wahab to get reverse swing going, to get these two out, but the damage would have been done!

 

[ali2220]

Pak have very little chance, i don't know why some indians here are saying that Pak is fav's. Indian bowling
is far superior with their spin twins, and their top order batting is way better than Pak.I actually fear there there will be no contest just like last WC.

 

[Mahee]

This is the best chance for Pakistan... Kohli and Dhawan are completely out of form

 

[adil79]

Not with Asif Ali, certainly not. Not with Hafeez & Malik duo bowling middle overs. Need a proper 5th bowler. And a proper batsman.

With following team, we may have 20% chance, as opposed to no chance:

Imam
Fakhar
Babar
Haris

Hafeez
Sarfraz
Shadab

Amir
Hussnain (Because of his extra pace, an upgrade version of hassan ali considering his current form?)
Shaheen Shah Afridi (Because of his movement)
Wahab

The above team, has the potential to run through indian unit.

New ball spell:

1- Amir (3)
2- Shaheen (3)

After 6 overs (Amir & wahab both should stand at mid off and mid on to guide bowlers):

1- Shaheen (3) (6)
2- Hussnain (3)

After 12 overs:

1- Amir (2) (5) + Shadab (1)
2- Hasnain (3) (6) (Drinks after 15 overs, so 1 over before drink & two after)

After 18 overs:

1- Shadab (3) (4)
2- Wahab (3)

After 24 overs:

1- Shaheen (4) (10)
2- Shadab (4) (8)

After 32 overs:

1- Hasnain (2) (8)
2- Shadab (2) (10)

After 36 overs: (drinks)

1- Hasnain (2) (10)
2- Amir (2) (7)

After 40-50 overs:

1- Wahab (10)
2- Amir (10)

This should be our strategy

What it does:

1- Maximum swing with new ball and chance for hasnain to zip the ball off surface when it's hard
2- Save overs for wahab at death, since at start wahab is expensive
3- Save overs for amir at death
4- Give shadab more spin since ball is old at 9-18 overs (Max. 25 overs for each ball). instead of after 5 overs (after over 10 straight away spin).
5- Hasnain in 30th over, when ball is 15 over old, a chance to have bit of tail. (18-20 overs old ball)

These little things can help us a lot

 

[Hyperion66]

I don’t see Pakistan coming back to beat India an ODI game.

They would have to get the better if the conditions in first 15-20 overs.

If it’s a bowling pitch, get 3-4 Indian batsmen out in first 15 overs.

If it’s a batting pitch, be 120/1 in 20 and finish with 300+ runs

India scores 250 on any pitch, will defend.

India will chase down any total below 280

My answer is also the same, no difference

 

[Hyperion66]

Logically speaking, it is hard to see how one of Pakistan's worst teams of all time could beat one of India's best. But logic counts for nothing with Pakistan on a given day.

What? 2011 team was the best Indian ODI team ever. Batting was otherworldly, bowling was fine for those conditions.

 

[Abdullah]

Malik haris and hafeez have to play
Malik and hafeez and sarfaraz best players of spin
Babar haris best players of pace

 

[Hyperion66]

I really liked the way Pak attacked the English bowlers right from the get go. There was apprehension beforehand as Woakes has a good record against Pak and Wood & Archer were brought in to bounce out the Pakistani batsmen but the plan failed due to Pak batsmen attitude and approach. They'll need that self belief and fearlessness again when facing Bumrah and Bhuvi. They will also need to keep rotating strike against the spinners and not get bogged down.

Kuch bhi karlo, kuch nhi hone wala, the streak will go on.

 

[adil79]

Need to sacrifice malik and play shaheen shah afridi. Need to sacrifice hassan ali and play hasnain, although this may be unpopular among other membera

 

[Hyperion66]

Pak have very little chance, i don't know why some indians here are saying that Pak is fav's. Indian bowling
is far superior with their spin twins, and their top order batting is way better than Pak.I actually fear there there will be no contest just like last WC.

Even without the spin twins Indian bowling is still superior, you don't have any pacer of the caliber of Shami let alone Bumrah. Agree with you this is gonna be another one-sided match despite all the hype.

 

[adil79]

Even without the spin twins Indian bowling is still superior, you don't have any pacer of the caliber of Shami let alone Bumrah. Agree with you this is gonna be another one-sided match despite all the hype.

not if we get in shaheen and hasnain. Nees to lose malik and take shaheen in and hasnain in place of hassan ali for shoaib akhtar time

 

[Hyperion66]

not if we get in shaheen and hasnain. Nees to lose malik and take shaheen in and hasnain in place of hassan ali for shoaib akhtar time

Shaheen is good but still a prospect and who is Hasnain and what has he done so far?

 

[ali2220]

Even without the spin twins Indian bowling is still superior, you don't have any pacer of the caliber of Shami let alone Bumrah. Agree with you this is gonna be another one-sided match despite all the hype.

Chances of scoring becomes much higher if its against an attack of just 2 quality pacers rather than the one against quality pacers and spinners.

 

[ali2220]

not if we get in shaheen and hasnain. Nees to lose malik and take shaheen in and hasnain in place of hassan ali for shoaib akhtar time

Sorry but malik will play in place of harris. Shaheen can replace hassan, dont think hasnain will play.

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Indian bowling is amazing. Our only hope is too get them 3 down for less than 70. Otherwise they have too much for us in batting and bowling.

 

[adil79]

Shaheen is good but still a prospect and who is Hasnain and what has he done so far?

He has raw pace. May remind of shoaib akhtar a bit

 

[ali2220]

Indian bowling is amazing. Our only hope is too get them 3 down for less than 70. Otherwise they have too much for us in batting and bowling.

Getting the top three is the hardest part, if they loose all three for just 70 then half the job is done as their middle order isn't really great

 

[nads_rocks]

Simple.
Stay away from media. Players should not hype on beating India or finishing this streak. Doing that they are already under pressure and have mentally lost the battle.
Go out there treat is as any other game they need to win. Don't be fear because its India. Bowl their heart out, Bat their heart out and field like their life depends on it.

When they get rid of this hype and mental block. India is easily defeated. This is why Indian media, players, old ex players dont bother like Pakistanis do.

Go out there do the job get the win whether its India or any other team does not matter. The key is concentrate and focus on the main goal!

 

[Pakpak]

Ofc if they can maintain good RR vs indian pace duo theyll come good.but not always bumrah will bowl a noball on wicket

Key will be to takeout indian top3 within 20 overs, otherwise india can chase any target pak will set
If they do remove them india has high chance of crumbling to pressure with even 270 on board

Lol the Indians have the galls to keep on talking about no-ball. The amount of catches we dropped off Tendulkar in 2011, otherwise you lot wouldn't even have gone past 200. Same for 2003, 55-2 and Razzaq dropped a dolly off Wasim.

 

[mon858]

Find a way of getting hasnain or Shaheen in bowling attack. India wont find issues playing shoaib hafeez and even shadab, need to go hard at them with back of length and short pace bowling. Not exactly sure who should be dropped, maybe shoaib but it will weaken batting. Maybe Asif since he will easily get out to their spin and is a poor fielder as well.

 

[adil79]

Find a way of getting hasnain or Shaheen in bowling attack. India wont find issues playing shoaib hafeez and even shadab, need to go hard at them with back of length and short pace bowling. Not exactly sure who should be dropped, maybe shoaib but it will weaken batting. Maybe Asif since he will easily get out to their spin and is a poor fielder as well.

Exactly what i think. Great analysis, mate. Need to take a bit of gamble as we can't play passengers in that match. Bowling with hafeez & malik will be a suicide. Need reminder of shoaib akhtar level pace + swing. For me, Hasnain comes in place of Hassan Ali & shaheen in place of Shoaib Malik. Haris Sohail in place of Asif Ali/