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Indian head coach Gautam Gambhir engages in a verbal spat with pitch curator at Oval cricket stadium

Gambhir is a tiny fella. He is confrontational and has an unappealing personality.

Then again, most Indians have unappealing personalities.

:inti
 
Mamoon said:
"You are just a curator"

Perhaps Gambhir should consider it as a career choice considering his embarrassing record as a coach in Test cricket. A curator can probably do a better job than he has.
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Gambhir is already won a iCC trophy as an coach and as an player won The ICC World Cup and World T20 ( Both final he was the highest scorer from india ) . This CV is better than any Pakistani player's in the history of cricket.
:shh:kp
 
I think this was pre-planned by the ECB through the curator after what was happened in Manchester.
 
so no indians here find issue with gambhir saying to a guy that he is just a curator?
 
Very bad language used by Gambhir. There are better ways to disagree instead of using classist remarks. Should Apologise and finish the matter.
 
Josh said:
Very bad language used by Gambhir. There are better ways to disagree instead of using classist remarks. Should Apologise and finish the matter.
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Did you know the language used by Clown curator? :kp
 
Gambhir probably didn't say the right words. But what is with curator allowing England team to inspect the pitch and not Indian team? On top of that he literally walked on that surface
 
So Gambhir joins Mushfiq club of Nagin Dancers? Now, Indians cannot belittle our Nagin Dancers anymore.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Gambhir probably didn't say the right words. But what is with curator allowing England team to inspect the pitch and not Indian team? On top of that he literally walked on that surface
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Of course he walked on, he's the groundsman. England didn't get any different an opportunity to inspect it than India did.
 
HitWicket said:
Of course he walked on, he's the groundsman. England didn't get any different an opportunity to inspect it than India did.
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That is not what i heard. England team wetn closer to pitch than Indian team for inspection. Based on the reporting i saw from teh ground.
 
It's never Gambhir's fault. It always the other person who is to blame. It amazes me how people continue to defend him considering his history of spats with just about everyone.

The guy has a mental maturity level of a child. Do you ever see the head-coach of an international cricket team behaving like this? Even if the groundsman overstepped his boinds
 
jnaveen1980 said:
That is not what i heard. England team wetn closer to pitch than Indian team for inspection. Based on the reporting i saw from teh ground.
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They were allowed on to the fringes of the pitch just like the Indian coaching staff were. They were also likely asked to avoid the area where some grass has recently been planted off to the side of the pitch like India were, but managed to avoid throwing an abusive tantrum in response unlike Gambhir.
 
Looking at the logic of Clown ( Size) , Azam khan is best player in the world 🤡😂:kp
 
Markhor said:
Just read the full reported exchange. What a vile little man this Gambhir is ! Epitome of Napoleon syndrome.

Cricinfo reported he was the one who began swearing and repeatedly said "you're just a groundman. Nothing more. You stay in your capacity."

India's assistant coach made lame excuses saying you can sound arrogant when you're a high level person, pitch isn't an antique etc.

This is exactly why very few neutrals support India. This attitude of entitlement, we own the game, we beat our chests and do what we want, is no different to the English-Australian colonial attitude of the 1950s that they supposedly bemoan.

A good way to judge a human being's character is how they behave with people lower on the food chain in terms of status and income. That exchange speaks volumes of Gambhir's character.
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The groundsman is just as involved in the game, without them, you got nothing to play on either.

Gautum Gambir; no surprises there however, he has always been a classless person and an excellent reflection of his countrymen.
 
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RedwoodOriginal said:
Well, I live in a society, not the jungle.

Also, generally it's the ones are lacking size in a certain department who try to overcompensate by barking the loudest :kp
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I know very well which society you live . It has long history but this thread is not inappropriate :kp
 
shaz619 said:
The groundsman is just as involved in the game, without them, you got nothing to play on either.

Gandum Gambir; no surprises there however, he has always been a classless rat and an excellent reflection of his countrymen.
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'Classless rat' is the most apt description of Gambhir I've heard :yk
 
Devadwal said:
Joe Root's Test batting average was around 42.4. After the implementation of Bazball, his average has increased to around 50.1 ( From Google search)

Once they started producing the flat track for bazballers tullebaaz he increased his AVG. He is a FTB

:kp
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Root's was averaging around 48-49 when Baz took over.His average never fell below 45 after 25 tests i think.
 
Markhor said:
Just read the full reported exchange. What a vile little man this Gambhir is ! Epitome of Napoleon syndrome.

Cricinfo reported he was the one who began swearing and repeatedly said "you're just a groundman. Nothing more. You stay in your capacity."

India's assistant coach made lame excuses saying you can sound arrogant when you're a high level person, pitch isn't an antique etc.

This is exactly why very few neutrals support India. This attitude of entitlement, we own the game, we beat our chests and do what we want, is no different to the English-Australian colonial attitude of the 1950s that they supposedly bemoan.

A good way to judge a human being's character is how they behave with people lower on the food chain in terms of status and income. That exchange speaks volumes of Gambhir's character.
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they are paid to support for sure.
 
Gambhir comes across as someone who probably got bullied a lot growing up. I mean, just look at the 5'4" frame, the oversized ears, and that fragile build, it all kind of explains itself. This whole tough-guy persona feels like a projection of years of bottled-up frustration. And let’s be honest, he doesn’t exactly seem like someone who's ever won a real fight in his life.

It’s always the ones who bark the loudest that have the weakest bite.
 
HitWicket said:
They were allowed on to the fringes of the pitch just like the Indian coaching staff were. They were also likely asked to avoid the area where some grass has recently been planted off to the side of the pitch like India were, but managed to avoid throwing an abusive tantrum in response unlike Gambhir.
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2.5 meter is 8 feet. That is not close enough to have inspection. Were Key/Baz 8 feet apart? Atleast that is not what they did in other grounds.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
2.5 meter is 8 feet. That is not close enough to have inspection. Were Key/Baz 8 feet apart? Atleast that is not what they did in other grounds.
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Except the claim they weren't allowed within 2.5m of the pitch is clearly nonsense given there is photos of the Indian support staff stood on it, at times even with McCullum.

Kotak accidentally mentioned in the press conference that the issue was actually with them being stood on the pitch to one side of the test wicket where the groundstaff were trying to get some grass to grow. That's presumably where the 2.5m actually came from (roughly the width of a wicket).
 
Devadwal said:
Gambhir is already won a iCC trophy as an coach and as an player won The ICC World Cup and World T20 ( Both final he was the highest scorer from india ) . This CV is better than any Pakistani player's in the history of cricket.
:shh:kp
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So that gives him right to swear at people and talk down to them ?

Gambhir and his supporters are showing their values here.
 
Devadwal said:
Idiots is pitch curator and whoever support this Clown 🤡.

This is not the first time he has confirmation with any team . He has history behind

But after slapped by England authorities when they threw away Pakistan fan who wear Pakistan shirt ,wannabe fan of England ( From Pakistani) still bending down to their master.

www.freepressjournal.in

IND vs ENG, 5th Test: Report Claims Oval Pitch Curator Lee Fortis Had History Of Altercations With Visiting Teams Before Verbal Spat With Gautam Gambhir

Team India's head coach Gautam Gambhir grabbed the spotlight on July 29, 2025 at the Kia Oval ground ahead of the fifth and final Test against England, beginning on July 31. With Gambhir getting into a verbal altercation with pitch curator Lee Fortis, a report of RevSportz claimed that he has...
www.freepressjournal.in www.freepressjournal.in


:kp
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Still creaming yourself over this non-event? Which has nothing to do with this incident. :facepalm:
 
I'm very fortunate to make 2.5-3x than the colleagues I work with in my job.

However I would never, ever, ever talk down to them by boasting about that disparity or treat them as less than me by telling them they're only a dispenser and to stay in their capacity.

Even if Gambhir had a legitimate gripe with the curator (which isn't established and no, Grok isn't a reliable source) - that's no reason to swear and start insulting him.

I know some Indian fans online will begin arguing how this is about standing up to the white man, India won't be dictated to by England anymore etc etc. No. Please call it out for what it is - a lack of basic human decency by a renowned hothead who can't control his temper.
 
shaz619 said:
The groundsman is just as involved in the game, without them, you got nothing to play on either.

Gandum Gambir; no surprises there however, he has always been a classless rat and an excellent reflection of his countrymen.
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There's a video of the confrontation up on YouTube now. The flag molesters in the comments are predictably working overtime in attacking the groundsman, spouting the equally predictable lines about British colonialism etc.

A head groundsman in County Cricket makes about £20-25k a year. Hardly one step removed from General Dyer and Lord Mountbatten is he ?

These flag molesters in every country (and India has a massive, very online proportion of them) are so blinded by nationalism that their understanding of basic human rights and wrongs is totally lost in this sick world we now live in.

Imagine kids watching Gambhir and thinking this is an acceptable way to behave with those lower on the social ladder.
 
Markhor said:
So that gives him right to swear at people and talk down to them ?

Gambhir and his supporters are showing their values here.
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Atleast first learn to read the entire discussion .

'Perhaps Gambhir should consider it as a career choice considering his embarrassing record as a coach in Test cricket. A curator can probably do a better job than he has.'

This was the quote which I replied and 2nd thing pitch curator should know his aaukat before lecturing to other . GG is not any club level coach but he is coach of best team in the World across the all formats and not a parchi coach like some other country , so any Lallu panju curator need to think twice before talking nonsense

Now third which is important who the hell is this Clown curator to tell Indian players what they should do or not. He is nothing more than a curator of a single grounds. This Clown Already includes in multiple disputes, including a notable incident with the Indian women’s cricket team at The Oval.

A coach can access the pitch conditions close to the pitch if he wears the rubber shoes, and same curator allowed England coach to inspect the pitch by standing on the pitch ( Post 32 , 42)

Last but not the least, we Indian already know what is the opinion of Pakistan posters when comes to Indian cricket regardless they are wrong or right.

:kp
 
sweep_shot said:
They have ruined the beautiful game of cricket with stupidity.

I wish they would stick to Kabaddi and leave cricket. :inti
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Daily reminder to you - when BCB, PCB along woth other board forming new cricketing alliance which you talk about from a year . What the latest update or sirf bhongiya marne ka kam karte ho.

BCCI ki bhikh pe jine wale badi badi bate ni karte hai , your entire identity os given by india.

:kp
 
Devadwal said:
This Clown Already includes in multiple disputes, including a notable incident with the Indian women’s cricket team at The Oval.
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Given he tried to bury it under other posts earlier, just a reminder that this (along with multiple other bits in his post) is made up nonsense that @Devadwal has claimed he has posted a source for from before today in this very thread, but that also turned out to be a lie.

Don't let the misinformation merchant get away with it. No doubt he'll respond to this post with more nonsense whilst still not actually posting a source for his claim from before today.
 
HitWicket said:
Given he tried to bury it under other posts earlier, just a reminder that this (along with multiple other bits in his post) is made up nonsense that @Devadwal has claimed he has posted a source for from before today in this very thread, but that also turned out to be a lie.
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Oh you better Keep quite as I already busted your Lie multiple times.

I don't repeat same sentance again and again to you . Better to asked the grok again 🤡

:kp
 
Devadwal said:
Oh you better Keep quite as I already busted your Lie multiple times.

I don't repeat same sentance again and again to you . Better to asked the grok again 🤡

:kp
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What a shock, you still haven't provided any reference to these altercations from before today. Almost like it doesn't exist.
 
HitWicket said:
For everyone else's benefit this is the only website @Devadwal has linked to in this thread: https://www.freepressjournal.in/spo...-teams-before-verbal-spat-with-gautam-gambhir

As anyone with eyes will be able to see, this is not a source from before today for the groundsman having previous altercations, because that's made up nonsense.
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I don't care if you satisfied with source or not, I'm not here to please you . BTW your eye test done very quickly that's good progress 😂

:kp
 
Devadwal said:
I don't care if you satisfied with source or not, I'm not here to please you . BTW your eye test done very quickly that's good progress 😂

:kp
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I have no idea if I'm satisfied with your source because you still haven't actually provided one for the claim.
 
UK should ban Gambhir from entering the country. He showed disorderly conduct as a tourist. :inti

Can you imagine an English player abusing an Indian pitch curator? He would probably get called racist/white supremacist.

It is remarkable how much nonsense India get away with.
 
Devadwal said:
Atleast first learn to read the entire discussion .

'Perhaps Gambhir should consider it as a career choice considering his embarrassing record as a coach in Test cricket. A curator can probably do a better job than he has.'

This was the quote which I replied and 2nd thing pitch curator should know his aaukat before lecturing to other . GG is not any club level coach but he is coach of best team in the World across the all formats and not a parchi coach like some other country , so any Lallu panju curator need to think twice before talking nonsense

Now third which is important who the hell is this Clown curator to tell Indian players what they should do or not. He is nothing more than a curator of a single grounds. This Clown Already includes in multiple disputes, including a notable incident with the Indian women’s cricket team at The Oval.

A coach can access the pitch conditions close to the pitch if he wears the rubber shoes, and same curator allowed England coach to inspect the pitch by standing on the pitch ( Post 32 , 42)

Last but not the least, we Indian already know what is the opinion of Pakistan posters when comes to Indian cricket regardless they are wrong or right.

:kp
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you keep digging a hole for yourself
 
sweep_shot said:
UK should ban Gambhir from entering the country. He showed disorderly conduct as a tourist. :inti

Can you imagine an English player abusing an Indian pitch curator? He would probably get called racist/white supremacist.

It is remarkable how much nonsense India get away with.
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Don't barks always ,do something on the ground. If they have any courage then first ban GG then we will see real aukaat of UK . #HaiHimmat

:kp
 
In honesty this doesn't surprise. These antics are part and parcel of the personality that is Gambhir.

I don't know who is right or wrong or both are wrong. but the only thing left for Gambhir now is to win the last game and draw the series that would be some consolation.
 
RidiculousMan said:
In honesty this doesn't surprise. These antics are part and parcel of the personality that is Gambhir.

I don't know who is right or wrong or both are wrong. but the only thing left for Gambhir now is to win the last game and draw the series that would be some consolation.
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It is 100% Gambhir's fault.

No cricketer abuses a curator like this (that too a foreign one).

Gambhir should learn how to talk and how to behave. One day he may anger the wrong dude and get hospitalized like that 23-year old Indian student in Australia. He should know his limitations as a 5'3'' vegetarian dude. :inti
 
Should be replaced by someone like Laxman. Not a good test coach and certainly not someone with a cool head on his shoulders.
 
RidiculousMan said:
In honesty this doesn't surprise. These antics are part and parcel of the personality that is Gambhir.

I don't know who is right or wrong or both are wrong. but the only thing left for Gambhir now is to win the last game and draw the series that would be some consolation.
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But if India loses the last test, it could mean a quicker exit for Gambhir. #silverlining
 
James said:
Mocking somebody’s profession in any context is totally unacceptable. Gambhir should apologise.
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Ohh We don't needs sprit of game lecture from England teams / supporters/ experts after what was happened in Manchester. # Hypocrite :kp
 
Messing around with the curator right before a major Test match doesn’t seem like a particularly a wise move 🤣🤣
 
Absolutely, That's why I said that this was pre planned by ECB through Pitch curator. Gambhir is a angry person and he fell into the trap of England. We don't know who's right and who's wrong here, but neither side is wiser, that's for sure.

emranabbas said:
Messing around with the curator right before a major Test match doesn’t seem like a particularly a wise move 🤣🤣
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James said:
Insulting somebody’s profession is nothing to do with the spirit of cricket or even cricket in general really, it is just being a garbage human.
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Indians wont understand this, cause this is part of the indian culture to kiss up the status of people and not look at the human.

Than again, they have cast system, so not surprised
 
James said:
Insulting somebody’s profession is nothing to do with the spirit of cricket or even cricket in general really, it is just being a garbage human.
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Here’s what happened between #Gautam gambhir and Clown pitch curator Lee Fortis.

• India was scheduled for an optional practice at 9:30 a.m. UK time at The Oval.

• Brendon McCullum and Rob Key inspected the wicket without issues. They were allowed to step on the pitch and do whatever they wanted to.

• Then the Indian coaching staff, including Gautam Gambhir and Sitanshu Kotak, approached the wicket.

• Lee Fortis asserted himself, telling the Indian staff they could not come within 2.5 meters of the pitch.

• This restriction led to a significant escalation.

• The 2.5 meters restriction was equated to about 8 feet, questioning how one could understand the wicket from such a distance.

• In contrast, during a rainy day in Manchester, Indian players and staff were allowed close to the pitch to assess it.

• Fortis's actions were seen as out of line, especially when compared to the treatment of other teams.

• The Indian team requested an ice box, but Fortis intervened again, preventing its placement near the pitch.

• The Indian staff were not wearing spikes and were in joggers, ensuring no damage to the pitch.

• The ice box, weighing 10 kilos, was deemed less impactful than a 100-kilo person on the pitch.

• Head Coach Gautam Gambhir reacted strongly to protect his team.

• Sitanshu Kotak described Fortis as "arrogant" in a press conference, indicating frustration.

• Kotak emphasized Gambhir's ethical stance and the need to speak up for his team.

• The incident highlighted a perceived double standard, as English staff faced no such restrictions.

:kp
 
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With an attitude like this it's no surprise Gambhir missed on the WC2011 final MoM (when he clearly should've won it!)

Well deserved! 😂😂
 
sweep_shot said:
Gambhir is a tiny fella. He is confrontational and has an unappealing personality.

Then again, most Indians have unappealing personalities.

:inti
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Classic short man syndrome.

This guy is very lucky, he would get ironed out if push came to shove, such a hard man he is!
 
The audacity of these cult members, who are living off Western government handouts, to have a go at someone's profession. Any profession is an honest one when comparing with the identity scamming cult who defraud innocent people of their hard earned cash.
 
A professional cricketer/coach shouldn’t stoop down to this level.

Doesn’t matter who was at fault.

Someone like Sachin or Dravid would never do that.
 
Devadwal said:
Here’s what happened between #Gautam gambhir and Clown pitch curator Lee Fortis.

• India was scheduled for an optional practice at 9:30 a.m. UK time at The Oval.

• Brendon McCullum and Rob Key inspected the wicket without issues. They were allowed to step on the pitch and do whatever they wanted to.

• Then the Indian coaching staff, including Gautam Gambhir and Sitanshu Kotak, approached the wicket.

• Lee Fortis asserted himself, telling the Indian staff they could not come within 2.5 meters of the pitch.

• This restriction led to a significant escalation.

• The 2.5 meters restriction was equated to about 8 feet, questioning how one could understand the wicket from such a distance.

• In contrast, during a rainy day in Manchester, Indian players and staff were allowed close to the pitch to assess it.

• Fortis's actions were seen as out of line, especially when compared to the treatment of other teams.

• The Indian team requested an ice box, but Fortis intervened again, preventing its placement near the pitch.

• The Indian staff were not wearing spikes and were in joggers, ensuring no damage to the pitch.

• The ice box, weighing 10 kilos, was deemed less impactful than a 100-kilo person on the pitch.

• Head Coach Gautam Gambhir reacted strongly to protect his team.

• Sitanshu Kotak described Fortis as "arrogant" in a press conference, indicating frustration.

• Kotak emphasized Gambhir's ethical stance and the need to speak up for his team.

• The incident highlighted a perceived double standard, as English staff faced no such restrictions.

:kp
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Gambhir always gives it back, but he should be more subtle, from what I heard the groundsman was at fault for behaving arrogantly and introducing some weird rules regarding pitch but there was absolutely no reason to bring up his occupation.
 
I don't know why some of you are surprised. Gambhir as an individual has shown time and time again that he has no grace. Who hasn't he gotten in a spat with? It was only natural that something like this was going to happen when he became head-coach of the Indian cricket team. Btw, for the geniuses bending over backwards to defend him, this reflects most poorly on the Indian cricket team than anyone else. Nobody knows who the groundsman is, but most cricket fans know who the head-coach of the Indian team is. Also, making a groundsman feel small by mocking his profession is just classless behavior. Everyone loses their temper and has gotten into a verbal dispute with someone at some point in their lives, however the way you handle yourself in such situations speaks volumes about the type of person you are.

As @shaz619 said, Gambhir is just a classless person. End of story.
 
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