Indian lawmaker booked for calling Hyderabad 'mini Pakistan'

[Abdul]

An Indian legislator has been booked for describing the cold city of Hyderabad, the capital of the southern Indian state of Telangana, as “mini Pakistan” and other ‘objectionable’ remarks, according to The News Minute.

Bharatiya Janata Party’s Raja Singh Lodh, who is a member of Telangana State Assembly from the Goshamahal constituency, was quoted as telling a television channel that the Constitution and the law currently in force were not his prime concern.

The controversial lawmaker also said he was preparing a private army of youths to fight others.

An Indian legislator has been booked for describing the cold city of Hyderabad, the capital of the southern Indian state of Telangana, as “mini Pakistan” and other ‘objectionable’ remarks, according to The News Minute.

Bharatiya Janata Party’s Raja Singh Lodh, who is a member of Telangana State Assembly from the Goshamahal constituency, was quoted as telling a television channel that the Constitution and the law currently in force were not his prime concern.

The controversial lawmaker also said he was preparing a private army of youths to fight others.

“His interview is provocative, promoting enmity among the public and leading to the disturbance of peace, public order and communal harmony,” Hyderabad deputy commissioner of police V Satyanarayana said.

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A case under the Indian Penal Code has been registered against him at the Mir Chowk Police Station in the old city.

Singh is a divisive figure and has several cases of hate speech pending against him.

Earlier, the police booked Singh for his statement that there was no place in India, for those who did not sing ‘Vande Mataram’.

Before that, the police had booked another case on the legislator for threatening to”‘behead” anyone who opposed the construction of a Ram temple at the disputed site at Ayodhya.

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The police have also booked Mohammed Abdul Majid of Darasgah Jihad-o-Shadat on same charges for conducting a mass drill with “arms” and lathis at the Hazrat Ujale Shah Eidgah ground on May 12 in addition to delivering a provocative speech.

According to police, he was conducting classes for volunteers and youths for “self defence".

Singh came out on Sunday saying there was “nothing wrong” with his “mini Pakistan” remark.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1409794/indian-lawmaker-booked-calling-hyderabad-mini-pakistan/

 

[troodon]

Lock him up and throw the key in the ocean.

 

[Slog]

Some hyderabadis Muslims I've met certainly think so....

(Not exactly mini Pakistan but as if it's some independent Muslim country)

 

[hafeezrocks]

Any Indian place with a sizeable Muslim population is often referred to as Pakistan by the locals as a Slur.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Any Indian place with a sizeable Muslim population is often referred to as Pakistan by the locals as a Slur.

Incorrect.The reason behind this is that certain percentage of the Muslim population of Hyderabad Princely state formed what was called the Razakar Army and went on a widespread killing of Muslims.These people who still live in the old part of Hyderabad are referred to as mini Pakistan.

 

[JaDed]

Wow so weird some of the Hyderabadi Muslims I met are pretty patriotic towards Hyderabad/India dependent.

BJP really needs to get its head checked and stop wobbling nonsense,lets see if Republic frowns upon him if not its just BJP tool.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Incorrect.The reason behind this is that certain percentage of the Muslim population of Hyderabad Princely state formed what was called the Razakar Army and went on a widespread killing of Muslims.These people who still live in the old part of Hyderabad are referred to as mini Pakistan.

joshila bhai always managing to turn the blame back onto Muslims in true Hindutva fashion.

 

[Rafa]

joshila bhai always managing to turn the blame back onto Muslims in true Hindutva fashion.

For Hindutvas, it's always the Muslim's who are responsible for every problem.

 

[cricketjoshila]

joshila bhai always managing to turn the blame back onto Muslims in true Hindutva fashion.

I know my country's history.Unlike You.

The Razakar Army is known fact of history.

 

[Pakistanian]

The ones I see in America do look kinda different from other Indians despite its southern location.

 

[Pakistanian]

Wow so weird some of the Hyderabadi Muslims I met are pretty patriotic towards Hyderabad/India dependent.

BJP really needs to get its head checked and stop wobbling nonsense,lets see if Republic frowns upon him if not its just BJP tool.

well it was forced to be part of india and the guy that ruled over it wanted to join Pakistan and even donated money to the Pakistani govt.

 

[PakLFC]

India can relax. Deccan Hyderabadis like the Owaisi brothers are Indian patriots and proper Pak haters. I have no time for them at all.

 

[JaDed]

well it was forced to be part of india and the guy that ruled over it wanted to join Pakistan and even donated money to the Pakistani govt.

Yeah true but things have changed a lot now,newer generation is diff.

 

[JaDed]

The ones I see in America do look kinda different from other Indians despite its southern location.

Is this an American thing? Because you seem to way into how people look no one on this forum is more obsessed with u in terms of how people look.

 

[maverick85]

well tbh it's an indian thing too. indians mock north easterners for their oriental looks.

 

[PakLFC]

Yeah true but things have changed a lot now,newer generation is diff.

You are more then welcome to them bro. I know many Pakistanis with none claiming Deccan Hyderabadis as their own at all. I agree that those who may have once wanted to join Pakistan have all died out which is why there is no insurgency in that part of your country.

 

[JaDed]

You are more then welcome to them bro. I know many Pakistani and none claim Deccan Hyderabadis as their own at all. I agree that those who may have wanted to once join Pakistan have all died out which is why there is no insurgency in that part of your country.

Why would you even think you can claim them as your own? They are Indians and it's 2017 not 1947.

 

[SandyB]

well tbh it's an indian thing too. indians mock north easterners for their oriental looks.

True that !. For all the racist blame games that North and South Indians pull on each other, we are equally adept at being super racist towards the North Easterners. !

Its a great testament to their peaceful nature that we don't see Kashmir level agitations at their states or a desire to join China , given how less integrated to mainland India they are made to feel .

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I know my country's history.Unlike You.

The Razakar Army is known fact of history.

Perhaps if you know history so well you can inform us on why the Razakar army came about, or did it happen in a vacuum? This should give you more opportunity to deflect the blame from the OP bigotry of the majority onto the minority religion in your country.

 

[PakLFC]

Why would you even think you can claim them as your own? They are Indians and it's 2017 not 1947.

Coz many Pakistanis still wrongly feel they have a soft corner for us. Truthfully, even in 1947 they voted for independence before the Indian invasion. The invasion does not bother me when the point is they didn't vote for a merger with Pakistan. They don't appear like Pakistanis either.

 

[Syed1]

Whenever I meet an Indian from South or East they always ask am I from Hyderabad, and that is because of my Urdu accent. I guess people in Hyderabad speak like people from Karachi. North Indians seem to recognize that I'm Pakistani.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Perhaps if you know history so well you can inform us on why the Razakar army came about, or did it happen in a vacuum? This should give you more opportunity to deflect the blame from the OP bigotry of the majority onto the minority religion in your country.

Nothing happens in vaccum.The Razakars are labelled as Pakistani supporters since 1948-49.Thats why the "mini Pakistan" label. There are many muslim majority areas in India and they dont get labelled mini Pakistan.This area in Old Hyderabad is an except and its because of their history that the label has stuck not because of their religion.

 

[troodon]

Coz many Pakistanis still wrongly feel they have a soft corner for us. Truthfully, even in 1947 they voted for independence before the Indian invasion. The invasion does not bother me when the point is they didn't vote for a merger with Pakistan. They don't appear like Pakistanis either.

Nizams have been there in Hyderabad for may be 200-300 years. The entire land belongs to Telugu people (Hindus/Muslims) who have been living there for thousands of years.

Calling it invasion by India is ludicrous. The Nizams are the invaders and they have been evicted and rightfully so.
Hyderabad belongs to Telugu people who are Indians.

 

[troodon]

Whenever I meet an Indian from South or East they always ask am I from Hyderabad, and that is because of my Urdu accent. I guess people in Hyderabad speak like people from Karachi. North Indians seem to recognize that I'm Pakistani.

There is little chance a Pakistani is confused with a Hyderabadi.

Most Pakistanis I have seen do not look anything like Hyderabadi Muslims. May be people who migrated to Pak from South India might look like Hyderabadis.

 

[Syed1]

There is little chance a Pakistani is confused with a Hyderabadi.

Most Pakistanis I have seen do not look anything like Hyderabadi Muslims. May be people who migrated to Pak from South India might look like Hyderabadis.

Well my ancestral background is from North India and Indian Punjab.

 

[troodon]

Well my ancestral background is from North India and Indian Punjab.

So you are a Kumar then

Once a Kumar, always a Kumar.

 

[PakLFC]

Nizams have been there in Hyderabad for may be 200-300 years. The entire land belongs to Telugu people (Hindus/Muslims) who have been living there for thousands of years.

Calling it invasion by India is ludicrous. The Nizams are the invaders and they have been evicted and rightfully so.
Hyderabad belongs to Telugu people who are Indians.

Look! India not Hindu's did invade Hyderabad after independence. It is not a Hindu-Muslim issue rather originally Hyderabad chose independence. I am happy that they are not a part of Pakistan.

 

[troodon]

Look! India not Hindu's did invade Hyderabad after independence. It is not a Hindu-Muslim issue rather originally Hyderabad chose independence. I am happy that they are not a part of Pakistan.

Hindus Invaded?

How do I explain to you? The land of Hyderabad is Telugu people land. Nizams were the outsiders who conquered it and ruled for a couple of centuries. It was never theirs.

Hyderabd and Deccan are Telugu Lands. Belongs to Telugus who consider themselves Indians.

 

[big_gamer007]

Not much of a news Indian politicians were never the smartest to know what kind of statements they need to give in public.. Nothing new here..

 

[PakLFC]

Hindus Invaded?

How do I explain to you? The land of Hyderabad is Telugu people land. Nizams were the outsiders who conquered it and ruled for a couple of centuries. It was never theirs.

Hyderabd and Deccan are Telugu Lands. Belongs to Telugus who consider themselves Indians.

No Hindu's did not invade but India/Delhi did after Deccan Hyderabad decided to become independent. This would be similar if Pakistan were to invade Afghanistan although both are majority Muslim. At that time the Telugu did not consider themselves to be Indian at all.

 

[troodon]

No Hindu's did not invade but India/Delhi did after Deccan Hyderabad decided to become independent. This would be similar if Pakistan were to invade Afghanistan although both are majority Muslim. At that time the Telugu did not consider themselves to be Indian at all.

Telugus were big time into Gandhijis independent movement and bought into the united India concept wholeheartedly.

If Telugus did not consider themselves Indians, then they would have demanded an independent country. Same with Tamilnadu. Karnataka, Kerala etc. Everyone bought into the united India concept. The movement of Gandhi and his influence was huge in South India.

 

[Slog]

Nizams have been there in Hyderabad for may be 200-300 years. The entire land belongs to Telugu people (Hindus/Muslims) who have been living there for thousands of years.

Calling it invasion by India is ludicrous. The Nizams are the invaders and they have been evicted and rightfully so.
Hyderabad belongs to Telugu people who are Indians.

Never get this logic that land belongs to someone

Let's say some group invades Punjab some day and takes over will the land still belong to punjabis 100 years later? How can land indefinitely belong to anyone

 

[Slog]

Telugus were big time into Gandhijis independent movement and bought into the united India concept wholeheartedly.

If Telugus did not consider themselves Indians, then they would have demanded an independent country. Same with Tamilnadu. Karnataka, Kerala etc. Everyone bought into the united India concept. The movement of Gandhi and his influence was huge in South India.

Wasn't there an independence movement in the madras areas in early years

 

[troodon]

Wasn't there an independence movement in the madras areas in early years

Not to my knowledge.

Popular Telugu leaders were all firmly under Gandhi's fold.

 

[big_gamer007]

Never get this logic that land belongs to someone

Let's say some group invades Punjab some day and takes over will the land still belong to punjabis 100 years later? How can land indefinitely belong to anyone

Isn't that what Pakistanis say about Kashmir? That the land belongs to Kashmiris? If India the state has been holding the land in Kashmir for last 70 years by your POV shouldn't the land belong to India the state now?

 

[troodon]

Never get this logic that land belongs to someone

Let's say some group invades Punjab some day and takes over will the land still belong to punjabis 100 years later? How can land indefinitely belong to anyone

We have been living in the Telugu Land for thousands of years. Hence it is our Land. Just because some outsider comes and rules over us for a couple of hundred years does not make it his land. He has no right over the land when it was never his.

To your question, if French/Dutch/Arabs invades Punjab and takes over it, the land will still belong to Punjabis especially when Punjabis are still living in that area and are the majority community.

 

[Pakistanian]

Is this an American thing? Because you seem to way into how people look no one on this forum is more obsessed with u in terms of how people look.

Quote me another post of mines where I talked about how people look, except of course on the "post a pic of yourself thread", you have some insecurities cause you're seeing posts I haven't even written

 

[PakLFC]

Telugus were big time into Gandhijis independent movement and bought into the united India concept wholeheartedly.

If Telugus did not consider themselves Indians, then they would have demanded an independent country. Same with Tamilnadu. Karnataka, Kerala etc. Everyone bought into the united India concept. The movement of Gandhi and his influence was huge in South India.

The point is not what Telugu's wanted but Hyderabadis as a whole. Many Muslim's minority whatever the percentage of them was at that time wanted a merger with Pak. It was not enough to swing the vote moreover I am not sure if the Nizam was willing. It is not a Hindu-Muslim thing at all.

 

[JaDed]

Quote me another post of mines where I talked about how people look, except of course on the "post a pic of yourself thread", you have some insecurities cause you're seeing posts I haven't even written

I'm remembering the posts because I replied on those posts where you called Indians arriving in ur city looking like fobs and what not etc ,now i don't know whether someone else uses your id as well and have no idea about post a pic thread.

 

[JaDed]

Whenever I meet an Indian from South or East they always ask am I from Hyderabad, and that is because of my Urdu accent. I guess people in Hyderabad speak like people from Karachi. North Indians seem to recognize that I'm Pakistani.

That could be either because of ignorance of my Indian brothers or that you have a terrible urdu accent,Daccani(Urdu) spoken in Hyderabad is not even close the urdu spoken in Lucknow or Delhi(and these two are distinct as well).

 

[JaDed]

Wasn't there an independence movement in the madras areas in early years

Not to my knowledge.

Popular Telugu leaders were all firmly under Gandhi's fold.

Madras was a common capital and the states weren't divided in linguistic basis , telugus and tamilians lived here.
That time one of the Dravidian tamil parties DK head by Periyar did ask for it but Kamraj was the biggest leader then and was with Congress.
The party that asked for Independence was atheist in nature and only believed in Dravidian language and culture.

 

[Bilal7]

Hyderabad is the closest Indian region to Karachi/Islamabad I feel. They mostly speak Urdu, are mostly Muslims and eat similar food.

 

[Slog]

Isn't that what Pakistanis say about Kashmir? That the land belongs to Kashmiris? If India the state has been holding the land in Kashmir for last 70 years by your POV shouldn't the land belong to India the state now?

dont know about others but i see what the current inhabitants want

for eg. afghans think that they have some special bond with pakistani pathans due to history and hence have a claim on Pakistan lands where Pathans live. However it has almost zero support among Pak pathans and why no one takes it seriously.

if it comes to that Pakistan can also lay claim to Hyderabad and some clowns do, but since majority of the current population of hyderabad isnt in favor of that its not a serious discussion

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Nothing happens in vaccum.The Razakars are labelled as Pakistani supporters since 1948-49.Thats why the "mini Pakistan" label. There are many muslim majority areas in India and they dont get labelled mini Pakistan.This area in Old Hyderabad is an except and its because of their history that the label has stuck not because of their religion.

So are they still Pakistan supporters or would you say that was more associated with the past?

 

[SandyB]

Telugus were big time into Gandhijis independent movement and bought into the united India concept wholeheartedly.

If Telugus did not consider themselves Indians, then they would have demanded an independent country. Same with Tamilnadu. Karnataka, Kerala etc. Everyone bought into the united India concept. The movement of Gandhi and his influence was huge in South India.

[MENTION=141520]troodon[/MENTION] That is a great point .

Unlike the Patels and Nehrus , who were preoccupied with the Hindi-Hindustan thing, Gandhi was one leader who realized the need of getting the trust of all the diverse regions of India, to obtain freedom. He frequently visited the southern states, compared to other leaders , and got himself involved with many of the social/political reform movements and leaders that had developed in the Southern States.

Which is why you find Gandhi has a very high level of acceptability and admiration that even among southern people (tamils, telugus, keralites etc) who otherwise were indifferent the other Northern leaders of the era.