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India's delusions of dominance in South Asia are exposed

Theanonymousone said:
Demonetization may have not yielded its primary targets, but as a by-product, digital finance has experienced a rapid growth from then. Modi is quite lucky in this sense.

The penetration of digital wallets has become so huge particularly in urban cities that, people most often dont carry cash with them
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Thats true, demonetisation had this second order effect and not two mention grocery delivery apps which are delivering under 10 minutes including Play Station 5 consoles.
 
IndoorCricket said:
Thats true, demonetisation had this second order effect and not two mention grocery delivery apps which are delivering under 10 minutes including Play Station 5 consoles.
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In fact carrying cash is extremely inconvenient in most Indian cities now.
 
IndoorCricket said:
There was a recent announcement for 3200 crore worth of investments from top IT companies in Madhya Pradesh. This would be a game changer for BIMARU states. Top investors are from Google, NVIDIA and Microsoft.


NVIDIA suggested creating a blueprint to transform Madhya Pradesh into the “Intelligence Capital of India.”
Read more at: https://analyticsindiamag.com/ai-ne...t-to-invest-inr-3200-crore-in-madhya-pradesh/
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True. The BIMARU states will also start to pickup once our low cost manufacturing kick in.

On the IT front, India is on track to become the Global GCC hub. Due to their negative bias towards India, most of the posts here are pessimistic towards India future. But the reality is different. While we lag behind China, no second thought about it, we can aspire to realize our own economic propsperity.

The key here is we are not losing any sovereign strength here like the CPEC deals which doesn't benefit the local working population.

High paying jobs will only increase in the future. The Average FTE cost for skilled IT employee is US$25K for leading MNCs which itself is a huge achievement for us looking at where we started.

 
arunp said:
Dude.... I explained it earlier. They worship Saraswati. Education is considered to be as high as Wealth in Hindu culture. It can be noticed in literacy rates in both the communities.. I have replied it earlier.
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you are not going to get thro' to him.

 
FearlessRoar said:

Nepal's Oli extends invitation to PM Modi for visit​


Nepal Prime Minister K P Sharma Oli on Sunday extended an invitation to his Indian counterpart Narendra Modi to visit the Himalayan nation.

Oli extended the invitation to Prime Minister Modi for the visit through visiting Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri, who paid a courtesy call on the Nepalese Prime Minister, according to a statement issued by the Prime Minister's secretariat here.

Oli was sworn in as Nepal's prime minister for a fourth time last month. He assumed office after the government led by Pushpa Kamal Dahal 'Prachanda' lost the vote of confidence in the House of Representatives.

Misri also called on the former prime minister and Nepali Congress president Sher Bahadur Deuba at his residence at Budhanilkantha on the outskirts of Kathmandu.

During the meeting, they discussed various matters relating to mutual interest, according to Deuba's office.

During the meeting, the two sides discussed subjects related to strengthening Nepal-India relations and further moving forward mutually beneficial cooperation, it said.

www.indiatoday.in

Nepal's Oli extends invitation to PM Modi for visit

PM Oli extended the invitation to Prime Minister Modi for the visit through visiting Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri, who paid a courtesy call on the Nepalese Prime Minister, according to a statement issued by the Prime Minister's secretariat here.
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After meeting Modi, he will be reporting to China

China knows how to play game here
 
I was signing up to a financial service yesterday, and one of the unique product points on the company website - UK Call Centre.

India are not dominating the IT markets, they just dominate cheap labour. Even AI with Indian outsourcing companies means more cheap labour.

Internally we have banned Indian located personal from our sales calls and access to systems in the UK and USA.

Even TAC support in India is a joke. Reading off a script and just wasting time.
 
The only thing that is getting badly exposed are the left parties. Not a single word of concern from them for BD Hindus.

Where is Mamata now? She was all for BD Muslims coming illegally into India. But not a single word from her regarding BD Hindus.

Shame shame you leftie loonies.
 
Technics 1210 said:
I was signing up to a financial service yesterday, and one of the unique product points on the company website - UK Call Centre.

India are not dominating the IT markets, they just dominate cheap labour. Even AI with Indian outsourcing companies means more cheap labour.

Internally we have banned Indian located personal from our sales calls and access to systems in the UK and USA.

Even TAC support in India is a joke. Reading off a script and just wasting time.
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With call centers, India cannot be the #1 in Global IT exports nor it can be the GCC hub for most of the leading companies. I can provide you the numbers with headcount.

India does offer cheaper resources and that is the advantage of outsourcing. But the salaries offered here in India are according to the purchasing power parity. I am from Big4 and there are some resources in the US (Manager level) who report to Indian counterparts, but get paid higher in nominal value. But if you see the PPP value, thats not the case.
And skilled resources FTEs are approaching US$25-30K in India which is much higher than even in Poland.
 
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PM Narendra Modi Meets Foxconn Chairman Young Liu; Apple Supplier Discusses Investment Plans In India​


Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Wednesday met Young Liu, the Chairman of Hon Hai Technology Group (Foxconn).

During the meeting, PM Modi highlighted the wonderful opportunities India offers in futuristic sectors. They also had excellent discussions on their investment plans in India in various states.

Foxconn, as one of the world’s largest electronics contract manufacturers, plays a crucial role in assembling a significant portion of Apple’s products, most notably the iconic iPhone.

“Wonderful to meet Mr. Young Liu, the Chairman of Hon Hai Technology Group (Foxconn). I highlighted the wonderful opportunities India offers in futuristic sectors. We also had excellent discussions on their investment plans in India in states like Karnataka, Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh,” PM Modi wrote on X.

Wonderful to meet Mr. Young Liu, the Chairman of Hon Hai Technology Group (Foxconn). I highlighted the wonderful opportunities India offers in futuristic sectors. We also had excellent discussions on their investment plans in India in states like Karnataka, Tamil Nadu and Andhra… pic.twitter.com/5tT4xfF51u— Narendra Modi (@narendramodi) August 14, 2024

Foxconn has been a crucial partner for Apple in its manufacturing operations, and their relationship is increasingly focused on India.

The Taiwanese giant has made significant investments in India to expand its manufacturing facilities, specifically targeting Apple products.

In 2023, PM Narendra Modi met with Liu in Gandhinagar and expressed enthusiasm for the company’s plans to expand semiconductor and chip manufacturing operations in India. Liu, a participant in the three-day SemiconIndia 2023 conference, reaffirmed Taiwan’s position as India’s most trusted and reliable partner.

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PM Narendra Modi Meets Foxconn Chairman Young Liu; Apple Supplier Discusses Investment Plans In India - News18

The chairman of Apple supplier Foxconn met Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Wednesday
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Foreign governments should avoid interfering in Pakistan's internal matters: FO​


The Foreign Office has urged foreign governments to avoid interfering in Pakistan's internal matters.

In a weekly briefing, Spokesperson Mumtaz Zahra Baloch emphasised that other countries do not need to comment on Pakistan's domestic matters and that foreign governments should refrain from meddling in Pakistan’s internal issues.

Speking on the situation in Bangladesh, Baloch strongly rejected allegations about Pakistan's role in the ouster of Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina Wajid saying there is absolutely no truth in them.

She said Pakistan believes that the people of Bangladesh have the capacity to settle their affairs and determine their future.

The foreign office spokesperson also expressed concern about the evolving situation in the Middle East. Baloch stated that Iran has the right to defend itself, and called for accountability for Israel's actions. She condemned the ongoing atrocities in Gaza, noting the high civilian casualties and stressing that Israel should be held accountable for what she described as genocide in Gaza.

She reiterated Pakistan's support for a ceasefire in Gaza, stating that while Pakistan welcomes any steps towards a ceasefire, it is not involved in negotiations.

Mumtaz Zahra Baloch also strongly denounced the storming of Al-Aqsa mosque by hundreds of extremist settlers led by office bearers of Israeli occupation authorities.

She said desecration of one of Islam's holiest sites and obstruction to the rights of worshippers have deeply hurt the sentiments of Muslims worldwide.

This act is a violation of Geneva Convention and blatant disregard of multiple UNSC resolutions.

The spokesperson called upon the international community especially the UN Security Council to take immediate action to end the serious and repeated transgressions against the sanctity of holy sites in Jerusalem, protect the Islamic character of Al-Aqsa and ensure the freedom of worship of the Palestinian people.

On the issue of Kashmir, Baloch strongly condemned the killing of four Kashmiri youth by Indian occupation forces in Doda district. The spokesperson said this brutal act is yet another example of India's illegal and oppressive steps against the Kashmiri people.

She urged the international community to take immediate and decisive action to hold India accountable for its egregious human rights violations in IIOJK and take steps to protect the rights and freedoms of Kashmiri people.

She also mentioned that Pakistan has signed a Memorandum of Understanding with the Iraqi government regarding pilgrim arrangements.

Regarding monkeypox, Baloch referred to the World Health Organization's advisory and indicated that the Ministry of National Health would provide an official response.

When asked about the recent Afghan firing on Torkham border, the spokesperson regretted the incident saying Pakistani forces responded appropriately in self-defence. She urged the Afghan authorities to exercise restraint and avoid unprovoked acts on Pakistan-Afghanistan border. She said the Afghan authorities must understand that Pakistani forces will always defend its territory. She said we remain ready to resolve any misunderstanding through diplomatic channels.

The spokesperson said Pakistan has consistently raised its concerns about the presence of terrorist hideouts and sanctuaries inside Afghanistan. She said Pakistan expects the Afghan authorities to take effective and robust action against the terrorist groups.

Baloch highlighted Pakistan's role as the chair of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) Council of Heads of State and noted that participation in the SCO meeting is ongoing.

She also mentioned that trade between Pakistan and India remains suspended due to actions taken by India in 2019. Baloch added that no talks are currently taking place with India for resumption of bilateral trade.

Lastly, the spokesperson expressed concern over the Russia-Ukraine conflict and called for a peaceful resolution.

tribune.com.pk

Foreign government's should avoid interfering in Pakistan's internal matters: FO | The Express Tribune

No talks are currently taking place with India for resumption of bilateral trade, Foreign Office says.
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Selective Citizenship: India-Afghanistan In A Dilemma​


India’s recent decision to grant citizenship to a select group of Afghan Sikhs has ignited a complex debate about the country’s true motivations and the implications of its policies on regional relationships. While this move might be seen by some as a humanitarian gesture, it starkly highlights India’s selective approach to citizenship, especially when considering the exclusion of Afghan Muslims from this process. This selective granting of citizenship not only reveals underlying biases but also raises serious questions about the sincerity of India’s claims of friendship with Afghanistan.

The granting of citizenship to Afghan Sikhs comes at a time when the Indian government is reviewing over 400 applications from refugees, primarily focusing on non-Muslim minorities. This focus is in line with India’s controversial Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA), which provides a pathway to citizenship for religious minorities from neighboring countries, excluding Muslims. By choosing to prioritize Sikh migrants while sidelining Muslim refugees, India is reinforcing a narrative of religious discrimination that undermines its secular image and raises concerns about its commitment to universal human rights.

India’s decision to exclude Afghan Muslims from its citizenship process is particularly troubling given the demographic reality of Afghanistan, where Muslims constitute the overwhelming majority of the population. By excluding them, India is effectively disregarding the plight of a large segment of Afghan refugees who are fleeing the same dangers as their Sikh counterparts. This exclusion suggests a lack of respect and consideration for Afghanistan’s majority Muslim population, potentially straining India’s relationship with the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan.

Furthermore, this selective policy raises serious questions about the credibility of India’s claims of friendship with Afghanistan. How can India present itself as a friend of the Afghan people when it is willing to help only a select group while leaving others to fend for themselves? This religious bias in India’s citizenship policy could be perceived as hypocritical, especially in the eyes of an Islamic country like Afghanistan. Such a stance may hinder India’s ability to foster genuine and balanced diplomatic relations with its neighbor.

The contradiction in India’s approach becomes even more apparent when we consider its treatment of Sikhs in other countries. While India presents itself as a savior of Afghan Sikhs, it has been embroiled in controversies over its treatment of Sikhs abroad, particularly in Canada. In Canada, the Indian government has been accused of persecuting Sikh activists and pressuring the Canadian government to crack down on Sikh separatist movements. This contradictory behavior complicates India’s position and raises doubts about the sincerity of its efforts to support Afghan Sikhs. Is this move truly about helping a vulnerable community, or is it a strategic move to polish India’s image on the global stage?

Source: Eurasia Review
 
The Bald Eagle said:

Selective Citizenship: India-Afghanistan In A Dilemma​


India’s recent decision to grant citizenship to a select group of Afghan Sikhs has ignited a complex debate about the country’s true motivations and the implications of its policies on regional relationships. While this move might be seen by some as a humanitarian gesture, it starkly highlights India’s selective approach to citizenship, especially when considering the exclusion of Afghan Muslims from this process. This selective granting of citizenship not only reveals underlying biases but also raises serious questions about the sincerity of India’s claims of friendship with Afghanistan.

The granting of citizenship to Afghan Sikhs comes at a time when the Indian government is reviewing over 400 applications from refugees, primarily focusing on non-Muslim minorities. This focus is in line with India’s controversial Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA), which provides a pathway to citizenship for religious minorities from neighboring countries, excluding Muslims. By choosing to prioritize Sikh migrants while sidelining Muslim refugees, India is reinforcing a narrative of religious discrimination that undermines its secular image and raises concerns about its commitment to universal human rights.

India’s decision to exclude Afghan Muslims from its citizenship process is particularly troubling given the demographic reality of Afghanistan, where Muslims constitute the overwhelming majority of the population. By excluding them, India is effectively disregarding the plight of a large segment of Afghan refugees who are fleeing the same dangers as their Sikh counterparts. This exclusion suggests a lack of respect and consideration for Afghanistan’s majority Muslim population, potentially straining India’s relationship with the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan.

Furthermore, this selective policy raises serious questions about the credibility of India’s claims of friendship with Afghanistan. How can India present itself as a friend of the Afghan people when it is willing to help only a select group while leaving others to fend for themselves? This religious bias in India’s citizenship policy could be perceived as hypocritical, especially in the eyes of an Islamic country like Afghanistan. Such a stance may hinder India’s ability to foster genuine and balanced diplomatic relations with its neighbor.

The contradiction in India’s approach becomes even more apparent when we consider its treatment of Sikhs in other countries. While India presents itself as a savior of Afghan Sikhs, it has been embroiled in controversies over its treatment of Sikhs abroad, particularly in Canada. In Canada, the Indian government has been accused of persecuting Sikh activists and pressuring the Canadian government to crack down on Sikh separatist movements. This contradictory behavior complicates India’s position and raises doubts about the sincerity of its efforts to support Afghan Sikhs. Is this move truly about helping a vulnerable community, or is it a strategic move to polish India’s image on the global stage?

Source: Eurasia Review
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Pakistani student writing about India-Afghan relations? that too about a policy if GOI?

Yup. its going to set the journalism world on fire.
 
India is dependent on China for trade. Did you know that China is India's largest trading partner, accounting for over 20% of India's total trade? This means that India can't afford to upset China, or it will risk losing a huge chunk of its trade.

China's growing influence in the region is also evident in its increasing presence in the Indian Ocean. China has established several naval bases in the region, which has given it a significant military advantage over India.

Let's be real, India isn't as powerful as it thinks it is. China is really calling the shots in South Asia, and India is just trying to keep up.
 
FearlessRoar said:
India is dependent on China for trade. Did you know that China is India's largest trading partner, accounting for over 20% of India's total trade? This means that India can't afford to upset China, or it will risk losing a huge chunk of its trade.

China's growing influence in the region is also evident in its increasing presence in the Indian Ocean. China has established several naval bases in the region, which has given it a significant military advantage over India.

Let's be real, India isn't as powerful as it thinks it is. China is really calling the shots in South Asia, and India is just trying to keep up.
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Not denying Chinese influence. There is significant difference in military capabilities and technological prowess between India and China. India is often trying to keep up. But trade deficit is not a way to guage it. USA is dependent on China for everything manufacturing. China is one of the larger investors in US Gov bonds.
Similarly a different way to look at it is, China cannot afford to upset a country which brings in non-trivial amount of business, esp when their economy seems to be slowing down.
 
FearlessRoar said:
India is dependent on China for trade. Did you know that China is India's largest trading partner, accounting for over 20% of India's total trade? This means that India can't afford to upset China, or it will risk losing a huge chunk of its trade.

China's growing influence in the region is also evident in its increasing presence in the Indian Ocean. China has established several naval bases in the region, which has given it a significant military advantage over India.

Let's be real, India isn't as powerful as it thinks it is. China is really calling the shots in South Asia, and India is just trying to keep up.
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No one ever has denied China is way superior. FYI - China is aspiring to be a a global superpower competing with the US, not just a regional power. So just imagine the scale of difficulty Ind has to deal with. Plus a hostile western border with Pak with constant terrorist infiltration. So not at all easy for Ind to even keep up with China considering the vast Chinese superiority. But atleast Ind is not a puppet state of China and US unlike Pak
 
FearlessRoar said:
India is dependent on China for trade. Did you know that China is India's largest trading partner, accounting for over 20% of India's total trade? This means that India can't afford to upset China, or it will risk losing a huge chunk of its trade.

China's growing influence in the region is also evident in its increasing presence in the Indian Ocean. China has established several naval bases in the region, which has given it a significant military advantage over India.

Let's be real, India isn't as powerful as it thinks it is. China is really calling the shots in South Asia, and India is just trying to keep up.
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Conversely , if China loses that trade with Ind - it will also lose revenue. So it cant upset Ind hugely. If a hypernationalist scenario happens and Ind cancels all trade with China - yes it will hurt Ind in the short term but long term Ind will be fine as it has such a large inexpensive labor base as well and can move its trade to nations like Vietnam, Thailand etc which even the US is doing now .
 
India is a literal garbage pit. Whole world knows it.
 
Nothing would change with Hasina's ouster. The Awami Government is pro China but it is also pro US (in all likelihood CIA established it considering Hasina said soemthing about a white man approaching her for a base). Bangladesh hence will most likely remain neutral between US and Chinese camp considering whats has happened to other nations due to Chinese loans.

Romali_rotti said:
IMO China is quite isolated, they have issues with what around 27 neighboring countries?

All Chinese have for friends are those 3rd world countries which they have purchased that are out on the international scene with begging bowls.

China is the real though...

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They are tbh.. one doesn't really need allies that much imo if one has absolute military superiority. Had US nor existed they would ovewhelm the west but rn the US is their biggest barrier.

Infact one of the reasons why India still dominates South Asia (excluding US because the US like dominates every single region) is due to the first island chain of US that prevents China from naval dominance in IOR. That alongside the fact that China hasn't yet achieved a blue water navy (they will by 2027 though) is still allowing us a grip on the region to consolidate
 

Prof Yunus seeks Pakistan’s support to revive Saarc​


Bangladesh Chief Adviser Prof Muhammad Yunus on Wednesday called for the revival of the Saarc as a top platform for regional cooperation in South Asia.

The chief adviser made the call when he met Pakistan Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly meeting at the UN headquarters in New York.

During the meeting, the two leaders underscored the need to revitalise the bilateral cooperation between the two countries.

Chief Adviser Prof Yunus said reviving Saarc could be a good way to start it and sought Pakistan’s support.

Shehbaz Sharif promised his support for the initiative and suggested the countries move step by step in reviving the regional platform.

Sharif said Bangladesh and Pakistan should open a “new page” in their relations to enhance cooperation in various aspects.

“It’s very essential we revive our relations,” he said.

Sharif expressed Pakistan’s interest in investing Bangladesh’s textile and leather sectors.

Chief Adviser Prof Yunus proposed an exchange of youth programs between the two countries.

The two countries also discussed renewing foreign secretary-level talks and reactivating the joint commission between the two countries.

Foreign Adviser Touhid Hossain was also present during the talks.

 
FearlessRoar said:

Prof Yunus seeks Pakistan’s support to revive Saarc​


Bangladesh Chief Adviser Prof Muhammad Yunus on Wednesday called for the revival of the Saarc as a top platform for regional cooperation in South Asia.

The chief adviser made the call when he met Pakistan Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly meeting at the UN headquarters in New York.

During the meeting, the two leaders underscored the need to revitalise the bilateral cooperation between the two countries.

Chief Adviser Prof Yunus said reviving Saarc could be a good way to start it and sought Pakistan’s support.

Shehbaz Sharif promised his support for the initiative and suggested the countries move step by step in reviving the regional platform.

Sharif said Bangladesh and Pakistan should open a “new page” in their relations to enhance cooperation in various aspects.

“It’s very essential we revive our relations,” he said.

Sharif expressed Pakistan’s interest in investing Bangladesh’s textile and leather sectors.

Chief Adviser Prof Yunus proposed an exchange of youth programs between the two countries.

The two countries also discussed renewing foreign secretary-level talks and reactivating the joint commission between the two countries.

Foreign Adviser Touhid Hossain was also present during the talks.

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Lol @ shariff investing in Bangladesh. Pakistan barely has any money to feed its own ppl let alone invest in a broken disjointed country like Bangladesh 😂...
 
Romali_rotti said:
Lol @ shariff investing in Bangladesh. Pakistan barely has any money to feed its own ppl let alone invest in a broken disjointed country like Bangladesh 😂...
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Those words are for each other.. now that economy is with Yunus he has to handle it and reality might not be as rosy which is exactly what IK realized when he took over.
 
As per Indian media reports, Indian External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar is visiting Pakistan for a SCO meeting on October 15-16.

Apparently, Pakistan invited Prime Minister Narendra Modi to attend, but Jaishankar is going instead.

This is actually a big deal because it shows India is still working with other countries in the region, even though they have differences.

To be honest, it's another sign that India's dream of dominating South Asia was just that - a dream.
 
FearlessRoar said:
As per Indian media reports, Indian External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar is visiting Pakistan for a SCO meeting on October 15-16.

Apparently, Pakistan invited Prime Minister Narendra Modi to attend, but Jaishankar is going instead.

This is actually a big deal because it shows India is still working with other countries in the region, even though they have differences.

To be honest, it's another sign that India's dream of dominating South Asia was just that - a dream.
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Jaishankar is attending sco meet. He isn't visiting pakistan for any dialogue.
 
Romali_rotti said:
Lol @ shariff investing in Bangladesh. Pakistan barely has any money to feed its own ppl let alone invest in a broken disjointed country like Bangladesh 😂...
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I get all the gloating regarding big progress India has made over the past few decades.

But the common man living in the slums across India would think I'm utterly deluded with these remarks of " India's vast Progress "
 
aboveandbeyond said:
I get all the gloating regarding big progress India has made over the past few decades.

But the common man living in the slums across India would think I'm utterly deluded with these remarks of " India's vast Progress "
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We have improved and proud of it , that pride doesnt mean we are oblivious to epic proportions of work we still need to do.
We like to celebrate the journey of progress and have optimism. :D
 
Dominance is not the philosophy of Sanatan Dharma. Our dharma teaches us to follow God on the path of righteousness.

This is why in the 5000 years history of Sanatan, we as a nation did not emphasise on attacking foreign lands to dominate them or lol their wealth.

When you mind your business and act right, there is no better friend than a Sanatani.

But if you go down to the path of adharma and become a threat to humanity, there can be no worse enemy than a Sanatani for we will fight till eternity until you are defeated and eradicated. Many men, tribes and religions came our way who tried to dominate us , today they have all been eradicated or forced to flee from our lands.
 
Aang_The_last_airbender said:
We have improved and proud of it , that pride doesnt mean we are oblivious to epic proportions of work we still need to do.
We like to celebrate the journey of progress and have optimism. :D
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Show some pity on him, his country has had nothing to celebrate since its creation, he doesn't know what progress and optimism is.

:apology
 
FearlessRoar said:
India is dependent on China for trade. Did you know that China is India's largest trading partner, accounting for over 20% of India's total trade? This means that India can't afford to upset China, or it will risk losing a huge chunk of its trade.

China's growing influence in the region is also evident in its increasing presence in the Indian Ocean. China has established several naval bases in the region, which has given it a significant military advantage over India.

Let's be real, India isn't as powerful as it thinks it is. China is really calling the shots in South Asia, and India is just trying to keep up.
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Once subservient to the West, now subservient to the East.

Indian history in a nutshell.
 
sweep_shot said:
Indian posters don't seem to understand what kind of damages are happening to their reputation and alliances (thanks to Modi).

Things are moving toward China's grip.
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We don’t need to understand, you already said you want India to disintegrate like Balkans, then why keep bringing about Modi if Indians are happy with him, he must be doing what you want.
We prefer not going to IMF and having high foreign reserves over “South Asian” allies.

As I said before enjoy your Chinese Pakistani IMF relationship.. we are all happy about it.
 
I do not believe there are even 1.4 Billion Indians, and the number is much lower than 1 Billion.

India's population number cannot be verified by any degree of certainty and has been hyperinflated since the 1950s to give Hinduism and India some prominence in the world - through questionable numbers.
 
Technics 1210 said:
I do not believe there are even 1.4 Billion Indians, and the number is much lower than 1 Billion.

India's population number cannot be verified by any degree of certainty and has been hyperinflated since the 1950s to give Hinduism and India some prominence in the world - through questionable numbers.
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:snack: This is next level conspiracy theory :ROFLMAO:
 
Aang_The_last_airbender said:
:snack: This is next level conspiracy theory :ROFLMAO:
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Obviously a kooky conspiracy theory but I would absolutely love it if it were true though.

- Would suddenly raise our per capita income by ~40%
- Would mean our family planning efforts were much more successful than we had imagined
- Could also mean our unemployment numbers are grossly exaggerated.
 
Red-Indian said:
Obviously a kooky conspiracy theory but I would absolutely love it if it were true though.

- Would suddenly raise our per capita income by ~40%
- Would mean our family planning efforts were much more successful than we had imagined
- Could also mean our unemployment numbers are grossly exaggerated.
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Some haters are truly our "shubhchintak" in a green disguise :troll
 
Aang_The_last_airbender said:
You mean Chinese subsidiaries who are all going bankrupt one after another and rushing back to Indian support.
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Not sure if folks have seen this but if it goes true, it'll be a massive $5Bn investments into connecting India and Sri Lanka.

I'm impressed at India's approach to losing some of these countries to Chinese influence. We're steadily winning them back with investments that tie us together rather than loans and grants favouring a single government. Muizzu was a good start. This would be a great continuation.

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$5 billion road, rail link between India and Sri Lanka in closing stages​


Colombo/New Delhi: Discussions are in the final stages for a $5 billion road-and-rail link between India and Sri Lanka with India set to bear the cost of the strategic project, said the island-nation’s environment secretary Prabath Chandrakeerthi.

This is the first big bilateral infrastructure project announced by the island nation since the recent election of President Anura Kumara Dissanayake amid efforts by New Delhi to counter Chinese influence in South Asia.

India is Sri Lanka’s largest trade partner and one of the largest Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) contributors. Indian FDI amounted to around $142 million in 2021.

“Last month I participated in one meeting with India in New Delhi, and we are going to establish the highway and railway line connectivity between Rameswaram in India and Trincomalee in Sri Lanka," Chandrakeerthi told Mint.

“This is being planned as businessmen in both countries have to pay more and with the road and rail connectivity, both parties can get help because it will help in trade with European and other countries. Indian businessmen can also get some benefits from Sri Lanka as well," the official added.

The Sri Lankan government proposed a land bridge between Rameswaram in Tamil Nadu of India and Talaimannar, a village in Mannar Island of Sri Lanka in 2002 and signed an agreement on it.

As per the agreement, road and rail bridge links were to be developed, offering economic benefits to both sides of the Palk Straits. However, after the agreement was signed, the Tamil Nadu government opposed the construction of the land bridge.
The talks resumed in 2015 when Indian asked the Asian Development Bank to carry out pre-feasibility study for financing a road and rail link between India’s Rameswaram and Sri Lanka’s Talaimannar. But it has been decided to build the rail and road link up to Trincomalee, the official informed.

There is no land connection between Sri Lanka and India through road or railway. The closest Indian town tow Sri Lanka, Dhanushkodi, had a railway station but this was washed out in a cyclone in 1964. A short boat ride till 1966 connected the railway stations at Talaimannar in Sri Lanka and Dhanushkodi in India.

“The cost of the project is still not finalized. We have to have more discussion about that, but I think it is estimated to be nearly $5 billion," the Lankan official said, adding “It will entirely be borne by the Indian government. We have to get some approval for environmental clearance."

Project may involve bridges, underwater tunnels​

He said the project may involve bridges and underwater tunnels to allow unhindered movement of ships.

The Bureau of Investigation of Sri Lanka prepared a detailed study and proposed for a six-lane combination of bridges, causeways and rail tracks. It was reported that the depth of water does not exceed seven metres at any point.

The official did not comment on whether the financing will be done by any of the multilateral banks.

Queries sent to the spokespeople and secretaries of Indian road transport and highways, ports, shipping and waterways, railways, external affairs and environment ministries remained unanswered at press time.

According to experts, establishing a road and railway link between India and Sri Lanka will go a long way in further strengthening trade ties.

Through the link, the movement of people and cargo is expected to surge, increasing economic opportunities for both. It is anticipated to reduce the travel time and cost of movement of goods and services and facilitate trade in South Asia. It will also enhance the capacity of the Trincomalee port in addition to that of Colombo port.

At present, about 12-15% of Indian cargo goes to Colombo Port in smaller ships which are loaded onto bigger ships for onward journey to Japan and countries in Europe and America.

If it materializes, it will facilitate a continuous road and ferry link from Madurai to Trincomalee and other major cities from both sides for cargo and passengers. It will also offer linkage to industries, especially agro-industries in South India and Sri Lanka, carry transmission lines to hook up Sri Lanka to India’s Southern region’s electricity grid with the Kudankulam nuclear power plant serving as a base load station.

In addition, if this is successful, a regional electric grid can be extended from Nepal, Bhutan to Sri Lanka. A firm, NEXANT, has reportedly carried out a study on the feasibility of a 30-kilometre submerged High-Voltage Direct Current (HVDC) link through the Palk Strait between the countries for the exports of 500 megawatt to Sri Lanka.

There are about 100 Indian companies invested in natural gas and oil, shipping, etc. in Sri Lanka. Through greater connectivity and cooperation, both can offer greater economic opportunities to each other and build a more comprehensive commercial environment.

Other experts argue that a rail and road link between India and Sri Lanka will not justify the cost involved in making it. However, there’s a need for feasibility study.

“India-Sri Lanka trade is very limited; it has not reached its full potential and since the distance is very small between these two countries. It's being done nicely through the ships and since people to people connect between Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka is there, but I feel it will not justify the cost involved in making of a dedicated rail link," said Ajay Srivastava, founder of Global Trade Research Initiative.

“Before investing the first dollar, a detailed feasibility study of cost and benefit analysis must be done."

Puja Das was in Colombo to attend a workshop on climate change organised by French Development Agency in South Asia between 8-10 October ahead of COP29 in Azerbaijan next month.
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rpant_gabba said:
It will be an utter environmental disaster for the area
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I'm not competent enough to judge that but given these aren't too deep waters, I would hope it could be done sustainably.

As to the economic benefits, even those are uncertain. I'd want to be sure it wouldn't be some prestige project like the Chinese Belt and Road stuff that doesn't have a clear end goal.

In the end, infrastructure development have their own capital creation benefits - employment mainly so I guess it's fine.
 
Technics 1210 said:
I do not believe there are even 1.4 Billion Indians, and the number is much lower than 1 Billion.

India's population number cannot be verified by any degree of certainty and has been hyperinflated since the 1950s to give Hinduism and India some prominence in the world - through questionable numbers.
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I wish you are right about it but in all honesty the exact number is likely in the 1.5-1.6 billion range and it is our misfortune only.

Being the most populated country is a curse but a political flex.
 
Red-Indian said:
I'm not competent enough to judge that but given these aren't too deep waters, I would hope it could be done sustainably.

As to the economic benefits, even those are uncertain. I'd want to be sure it wouldn't be some prestige project like the Chinese Belt and Road stuff that doesn't have a clear end goal.

In the end, infrastructure development have their own capital creation benefits - employment mainly so I guess it's fine.
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The whole coastal area relies on fisheries for their livelihood. I don't trust them to to take that into consideration.

In addition, this will provide a convenient path of illegal sri lankan migrants to enter india. India has enough headaches with BD and Rohignya.

not sure the risks are worth it
 
rpant_gabba said:
The whole coastal area relies on fisheries for their livelihood. I don't trust them to to take that into consideration.

In addition, this will provide a convenient path of illegal sri lankan migrants to enter india. India has enough headaches with BD and Rohignya.

not sure the risks are worth it
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Immigration's one thing I don't think you have to worry about. Sri Lanka's population is 2 point something crores. Even if half the population migrated, Tamil Nadu could swallow them with barely a burp. In any case, that area has always been an open sort of border. The distance at spots is less than a 100 kilometres and can be crossed in simple boats in a few hours. There's plenty of traffic and families with members on both sides. I don't think a road and rail link is going to make a significant difference.

I would guess the objective is more strategic. Tie them in closer, increase trade, tourism etc. For example, if they opened up to Indian land ownership, it could create a construction boom.
 
Red-Indian said:
Immigration's one thing I don't think you have to worry about. Sri Lanka's population is 2 point something crores. Even if half the population migrated, Tamil Nadu could swallow them with barely a burp. In any case, that area has always been an open sort of border. The distance at spots is less than a 100 kilometres and can be crossed in simple boats in a few hours. There's plenty of traffic and families with members on both sides. I don't think a road and rail link is going to make a significant difference.

I would guess the objective is more strategic. Tie them in closer, increase trade, tourism etc. For example, if they opened up to Indian land ownership, it could create a construction boom.
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This sea route is not so straight forward or accessible for business purpose. Road rail link will be revolutionary.
 
Red-Indian said:
Immigration's one thing I don't think you have to worry about. Sri Lanka's population is 2 point something crores. Even if half the population migrated, Tamil Nadu could swallow them with barely a burp. In any case, that area has always been an open sort of border. The distance at spots is less than a 100 kilometres and can be crossed in simple boats in a few hours. There's plenty of traffic and families with members on both sides. I don't think a road and rail link is going to make a significant difference.

I would guess the objective is more strategic. Tie them in closer, increase trade, tourism etc. For example, if they opened up to Indian land ownership, it could create a construction boom.
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There is huge difference between what/who you take on a small boat vs jumping a train. It defintely creates a barrier

I don't trust the lankans to honor any agreement they sign. All the evidence one needs is collusion between LTTE and SL govt during the IPKF days.

I'd tread very lightly.
 
India and China agree to de-escalate border tensions

India and China have agreed on patrolling arrangements to de-escalate tensions along a disputed Himalayan border which has seen deadly hand-to-hand clashes in recent years, India’s top diplomat has said.

Vikram Misri said on Monday the two sides have agreed on “disengagement and resolution of issues in these [border] areas that had arisen in 2020”.

He was referring to the Galwan Valley clashes - the first fatal confrontation between the two sides since 1975, in which both sides suffered casualties.

Relations between the neighbours have been strained since then.


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India and China agree to de-escalate border tensions

The two countries have reached a patrolling agreement after several clashes between their troops since 2020.
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