IPL franchise owners openly being allowed to discriminate in non-Indian leagues?

[Vikram1989]

I'm sure they wouldn't care too much about Indians either if we were the ones being discriminated against. It's just that all the money's coming from India so they have to make nice.

In Last year india tour of Australia, Acb have welcomed any Indian cricket journalist/YouTube influencer having a bit of following with red carpet.Any brown guy is same for them with out money.

 

[Cover Drive Six]

how could i teach the indian contingent on this board anything about their expert topic, ill give it a crack tho...

you take time out of your day to come on a pakistani forum to celebrate the fact that businesses you have nothing to do with have created an economic monopoly which disadvantage pakistanis to validate your own hate of pakistanis, that is the definition of obsession and hate rolled into one.

u an indian, celebrating someone elses money, on a pakistani forum, wasting your time, to validate your deep seated hate of pakistanis, for..... nothing.

That’s not the point. You’re deflecting too much instead of simply accepting your hateful post, where you said Muslims in India should have more births to outnumber Hindus and take over. You’re the last person who should be lecturing others about hatred with that birth-rate analogy.

 

[Red-Indian]

In Last year india tour of Australia, Acb have welcomed any Indian cricket journalist/YouTube influencer having a bit of following with red carpet.Any brown guy is same for them with out money.

I suppose it's one thing if the folks being discriminated against were UK citizens even if they were brown.

But to expect the Brits and their media to work themselves up into a lather about some Indians discriminating against some Pakistanis is a bit much.

I suppose folks like @Rana still have all these romantic notions about the British and their sense of civilization, fairness and justice. For most of us 'browns' though, the scales have long since fallen.

 

[Rana]

Reading all the responses from Indians here (not all) makes you think that it’s not discrimination if Indians say so .

 

[daytrader]

Discrimination only comes when people of the same society or nation treats their people differently..In this care, Pakistan is an enemy country and any owner who belongs to India has the right to not select a player of a country which has been sponsoring terrorism against his or her country..This is called sentiment or patriotism..not discrimination..we don't hate you by color or religion, we only hate you because you have caused so much pain to my country..

The Hundred is not in your country

 

[Rana]

The Hundred is not in your country

Exactly, you’ve got Indians here telling us that Pakistanis are not valued according to their understanding in Britain.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Reading all the responses from Indians here (not all)

Exactly, you’ve got Indians here telling us that Pakistanis are not valued according to their understanding in Britain.

Those indians are like jumping jeans on a stove because there is an indian onwer involved in almost all franchises there. Otherwise, there is not stake involved for them.

 

[Rana]

Those indians are like jumping jeans on a stove because there is an indian onwer involved in almost all franchises there. Otherwise, there is not stake involved for them.

I don’t know if you have seen the footage on social media where there were Indians at some pool club in Thailand not allowed entry specifically because they were Indians.

Everyone else was being allowed in right in front of them but the Indians were denied entry.

Initially I felt really bad. This is not right.

Now, reading so many of the comments by even educated Indians….i think it’s fair what happened to them. These guys have lost all sense of what is right and what is wrong.

Bhaar main jaye yeh ab!

 

[KB]

Understandable, I think Ind posters must see a lot of hate here on pp as well but many ind posters have become bcci’s volunteer munshis (clerks) justifying every right or wrong with and might is right theories.

Cricket is great window into the hyper-nationalism that exists amongst a vocal section of Indians. Imagine if India was a real super-power! As Mukul Kesavan put it in a tweet:

"If Modi had a superpower at his disposal, this is how desi security pundits would talk. But he doesn’t. So franchise cricket is the puddle in which fawning enablers flex their tiny muscles"

 

[Prince of Dorne]

We continue to cry about not being selected in a Mickey Mouse League liked the Hundred….

But why not grow PSL?

Why not make the PSL Brand value so strong that anyone would prefer PSL over Hundred?

Get your own house in order before talking about others…..

Why? It would require a lot of time, money and other efforts. Crying victim on the drop of a hat is much easier and pragmatic option.

 

[chakdeindian]

The Hundred is not in your country

Not in your country as well..

 

[chakdeindian]

Cricket is great window into the hyper-nationalism that exists amongst a vocal section of Indians. Imagine if India was a real super-power! As Mukul Kesavan put it in a tweet:

"If Modi had a superpower at his disposal, this is how desi security pundits would talk. But he doesn’t. So franchise cricket is the puddle in which fawning enablers flex their tiny muscles"

Compared to any other asian and European countries, Modi had performed extraordinarily well to flex his muscle to get whatever he wants.. Indian economy and government is very stable compared to any asian or European countries despite the tariff pressure and India is the only country to maintain equal relationship and respect both with Russia and USA..also they made best deal with European Union...Modis popularity is no match to any lea

 

[rpant_gabba]

Cricket is great window into the hyper-nationalism that exists amongst a vocal section of Indians. Imagine if India was a real super-power! As Mukul Kesavan put it in a tweet:

"If Modi had a superpower at his disposal, this is how desi security pundits would talk. But he doesn’t. So franchise cricket is the puddle in which fawning enablers flex their tiny muscles"

Yup. The programing at Xaviers school combined with St Stephens brainwashing can b e difficult to over come. Combined with his overprivleged upbringing, he probably doesn't have the intellectual fortitude to break through. Such is the power of GNV

 

[chakdeindian]

I don’t know if you have seen the footage on social media where there were Indians at some pool club in Thailand not allowed entry specifically because they were Indians.

Everyone else was being allowed in right in front of them but the Indians were denied entry.

Initially I felt really bad. This is not right.

Now, reading so many of the comments by even educated Indians….i think it’s fair what happened to them. These guys have lost all sense of what is right and what is wrong.

Bhaar main jaye yeh ab!

Common..your country was banned for a decade from hosting any international matches..many countries still send second string sides to tour your country fearing of terror strikes..they provide presidential level security to any team travelling to your country..And you are quoting on some club match ban which most of the Indians are unaware..

 

[BouncerGuy]

STAY ON TOPIC

 

[gibsyhesperis]

I suppose it's one thing if the folks being discriminated against were UK citizens even if they were brown.

But to expect the Brits and their media to work themselves up into a lather about some Indians discriminating against some Pakistanis is a bit much.

I suppose folks like @Rana still have all these romantic notions about the British and their sense of civilization, fairness and justice. For most of us 'browns' though, the scales have long since fallen.

I think this is a complex issue and several things can be true at the same time (and not mutually exclusive):

1) There has been quite some media attention given to this issue, not just by the BBC. As an example, The Times had a piece on Saturday, by Simon Wilde, on their main Sports page, discussing the potential exclusion of Pakistani players (as you know cricket jostles with football to get any attention).
The Times is solidly on the centre right politically.

2) The UK has become a less tolerant society during my lifetime --unclear why; maybe the rise of populism (Reform etc) , an abreaction as a consequence of large scale immigration from the EU preceding Brexit, and then the Boris wave afterwards (predominantly South Asian).
Who knows ?

3) The UK still remains probably the best example of a multicultural society in the world (someone of Indian origin was PM (Sunak) , the leader of the opposition is of Nigerian origin (Badenoch) , the current Home Sec (Mahmood) is of Pakistani origin)
Try being Hindu or Christian in Pakistan, Muslim in India etc
On a sporting level, few countries would be as relaxed about large numbers of post immigrant communities cheering their side against the home country. Last year, with some Indian friends, I was in a box at Lords -- large number of British Indians were there and there was no real enmity.
Imagine being in the US at a sporting event and cheering an opposition side against the US


Reading the comments in The Times this potential ban (and we really don't know much about it) has struck a nerve but not just amongst indigenous population. Many of my close friends are Indian and are appalled about this.

 

[ElRaja]

That’s not the point. You’re deflecting too much instead of simply accepting your hateful post, where you said Muslims in India should have more births to outnumber Hindus and take over. You’re the last person who should be lecturing others about hatred with that birth-rate analogy.

any alleged comment i may have made does not negate the fact that you could not counter a single point i made, i dont even remember the comment your talking about, and if taken out in context it was hateful id own it, however you could never take even the slightest ownership of the fact that you couldnt negate a single point i made, because it reinforces your obsession, to come to a pakistani website and ruminate over a post a pakistani might have made years ago. this website is full of indians obsessed with pakistan, and your just one of them. im living rent free in your head bro, enjoy it.

 

[Red-Indian]

I think this is a complex issue and several things can be true at the same time (and not mutually exclusive):

1) There has been quite some media attention given to this issue, not just by the BBC. As an example, The Times had a piece on Saturday, by Simon Wilde, on their main Sports page, discussing the potential exclusion of Pakistani players (as you know cricket jostles with football to get any attention).
The Times is solidly on the centre right politically.

2) The UK has become a less tolerant society during my lifetime --unclear why; maybe the rise of populism (Reform etc) , an abreaction as a consequence of large scale immigration from the EU preceding Brexit, and then the Boris wave afterwards (predominantly South Asian).
Who knows ?

3) The UK still remains probably the best example of a multicultural society in the world (someone of Indian origin was PM (Sunak) , the leader of the opposition is of Nigerian origin (Badenoch) , the current Home Sec (Mahmood) is of Pakistani origin)
Try being Hindu or Christian in Pakistan, Muslim in India etc
On a sporting level, few countries would be as relaxed about large numbers of post immigrant communities cheering their side against the home country. Last year, with some Indian friends, I was in a box at Lords -- large number of British Indians were there and there was no real enmity.
Imagine being in the US at a sporting event and cheering an opposition side against the US


Reading the comments in The Times this potential ban (and we really don't know much about it) has struck a nerve but not just amongst indigenous population. Many of my close friends are Indian and are appalled about this.

I suppose I'll have to see it to believe it - that Brits are so enamored with fairness to foreigners that they will endanger their league to force Indians to pick Pakistanis - a BBC article and Times Opinion piece not withstanding.

The mood in India is definitely such that Indian owners will risk a lot of unpopularity in picking Pakistani players. Okay for folks who don't have an IPL team I suppose but my guess is IPL team owners would rather divest the British teams than risk any blowback to their highly valuable IPL teams.

Not a great situation I agree but hardly surprising given the geopolitical scenario we live in.

 

[Rana]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2025557520392073527

 

[Rana]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2025545547889758306

 

[Kriketer]

Just taking their filth abroad

 

[Rana]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2025558135390560717

 

[Hawkeye]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2025558135390560717

All good.

However proving it will be a difficult task. I don’t think IND owners will be bothered by this and it seems to be a formality by the ECB.

Unfortunately the naye daulatye IND owners are bringing their pettiness and politics to the civilized world. As long as we keep it limited to their own country the world will be a much better place.

 

[shah9425]

Nothing gonna happen

ECB is toothless just like ICC

 

[KingKhanWC]

All good.

However proving it will be a difficult task. I don’t think IND owners will be bothered by this and it seems to be a formality by the ECB.

Unfortunately the naye daulatye IND owners are bringing their pettiness and politics to the civilized world. As long as we keep it limited to their own country the world will be a much better place.

I think the Indian owners are pressured by the Indian government but now they can say ECB won’t allow this . At least 1 Pak player will be signed by those clubs

 

[Red-Indian]

I think the Indian owners are pressured by the Indian government but now they can say ECB won’t allow this . At least 1 Pak player will be signed by those clubs

Nah. I'd be very surprised. A bare handful of Pakistani players have played in the 100 even when there were no Indian owners...none last year.

At best, a couple of Indian owned teams might throw in a very low bid or two on some player to play the farce through.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Nah. I'd be very surprised. A bare handful of Pakistani players have played in the 100 even when there were no Indian owners...none last year.

At best, a couple of Indian owned teams might throw in a very low bid or two on some player to play the farce through.

We will see but ECB cant afford another race issue . Theres enough for one or two

 

[Varun]

The best thing for the Pakistanis at this stage is to hope that nobody - zero of them - are picked. Then the resultant hullaballoo will ensure that they are never accorded such treatment again next year and beyond.

The worst that can happen is that a token 1 or 2 are selected. Then they will be just above the poverty line and sacrifice their right to complain.

By the way, I still maintain that this format is junk and for cricketing reasons they will do best to stay away.

 

[Ball Blazer]

ECB reminds Hundred franchises of responsibilities​

The England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) has written to the eight Hundred franchises reminding them of their responsibilities around discrimination.

Earlier this week, BBC Sport reported Pakistan cricketers are not being considered by the four Indian-owned sides for next month's Hundred auction.

Pakistan players do not play in the Indian Premier League (IPL) amid ongoing political tensions between the two countries and that trend is reflected at IPL-owned franchises around the world.

ECB chief executive Richard Gould said last year he expected "players from all nations to be selected for all teams" in The Hundred and warned "clear anti-discrimination policies" were in place.

The ECB retained overall control of The Hundred when it sold stakes in the eight teams last year, though its power has been diluted with the presence of new owners.

It cannot compel teams to pick players and any accusations of discrimination would have to be backed up by clear evidence.

The ECB could refer a franchise to the cricket regulator, which can also carry out its own investigations. The governing body could also hand out its own separate punishments.

Two Pakistan internationals - Mohammad Amir and Imad Wasim - appeared in last year's tournament, which was the final edition before new investors took control.

More than 60 Pakistan players were among the 964 to sign up for the auction, which takes place on 11 and 12 March.

This week, teams will submit a list of players of interest, which will whittle down the overall options to a longlist of less than 200 players who will go to the auction.

The Hundred: ECB writes to team owners to remind them of responsibilities

The England and Wales Cricket Board writes to the eight Hundred franchises reminding them of their responsibilities around discrimination.

www.bbc.com

 

[Obaidd]

Cricket is great window into the hyper-nationalism that exists amongst a vocal section of Indians. Imagine if India was a real super-power! As Mukul Kesavan put it in a tweet:

"If Modi had a superpower at his disposal, this is how desi security pundits would talk. But he doesn’t. So franchise cricket is the puddle in which fawning enablers flex their tiny muscles"

My hope is that it’s just a vocal section that’s bought into this hyper-nationalism. I know Ind is a land of great thinkers, anybody who lives by principles knows that might is right theories come with a shelf life by definition.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

After today's Indian performance, the 100 Franchise owners are probably happy that they are also banned by BCCI from picking Indian players.