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IPL franchise owners openly being allowed to discriminate in non-Indian leagues?

Red-Indian said:
I'm sure they wouldn't care too much about Indians either if we were the ones being discriminated against. It's just that all the money's coming from India so they have to make nice.
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In Last year india tour of Australia, Acb have welcomed any Indian cricket journalist/YouTube influencer having a bit of following with red carpet.Any brown guy is same for them with out money.
 
ElRaja said:
how could i teach the indian contingent on this board anything about their expert topic, ill give it a crack tho...

you take time out of your day to come on a pakistani forum to celebrate the fact that businesses you have nothing to do with have created an economic monopoly which disadvantage pakistanis to validate your own hate of pakistanis, that is the definition of obsession and hate rolled into one.

u an indian, celebrating someone elses money, on a pakistani forum, wasting your time, to validate your deep seated hate of pakistanis, for..... nothing.
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That’s not the point. You’re deflecting too much instead of simply accepting your hateful post, where you said Muslims in India should have more births to outnumber Hindus and take over. You’re the last person who should be lecturing others about hatred with that birth-rate analogy.
 
Vikram1989 said:
In Last year india tour of Australia, Acb have welcomed any Indian cricket journalist/YouTube influencer having a bit of following with red carpet.Any brown guy is same for them with out money.
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I suppose it's one thing if the folks being discriminated against were UK citizens even if they were brown.

But to expect the Brits and their media to work themselves up into a lather about some Indians discriminating against some Pakistanis is a bit much.

I suppose folks like @Rana still have all these romantic notions about the British and their sense of civilization, fairness and justice. For most of us 'browns' though, the scales have long since fallen.
 
Reading all the responses from Indians here (not all) makes you think that it’s not discrimination if Indians say so . (y)
 
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chakdeindian said:
Discrimination only comes when people of the same society or nation treats their people differently..In this care, Pakistan is an enemy country and any owner who belongs to India has the right to not select a player of a country which has been sponsoring terrorism against his or her country..This is called sentiment or patriotism..not discrimination..we don't hate you by color or religion, we only hate you because you have caused so much pain to my country..
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The Hundred is not in your country
 
Rana said:
Reading all the responses from Indians here (not all)
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Rana said:
Exactly, you’ve got Indians here telling us that Pakistanis are not valued according to their understanding in Britain.
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Those indians are like jumping jeans on a stove because there is an indian onwer involved in almost all franchises there. Otherwise, there is not stake involved for them.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Those indians are like jumping jeans on a stove because there is an indian onwer involved in almost all franchises there. Otherwise, there is not stake involved for them.
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I don’t know if you have seen the footage on social media where there were Indians at some pool club in Thailand not allowed entry specifically because they were Indians.

Everyone else was being allowed in right in front of them but the Indians were denied entry.

Initially I felt really bad. This is not right.

Now, reading so many of the comments by even educated Indians….i think it’s fair what happened to them. These guys have lost all sense of what is right and what is wrong.

Bhaar main jaye yeh ab!
 
Obaidd said:
Understandable, I think Ind posters must see a lot of hate here on pp as well but many ind posters have become bcci’s volunteer munshis (clerks) justifying every right or wrong with :money and might is right theories.
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Cricket is great window into the hyper-nationalism that exists amongst a vocal section of Indians. Imagine if India was a real super-power! As Mukul Kesavan put it in a tweet:

"If Modi had a superpower at his disposal, this is how desi security pundits would talk. But he doesn’t. So franchise cricket is the puddle in which fawning enablers flex their tiny muscles"
 
msb314 said:
We continue to cry about not being selected in a Mickey Mouse League liked the Hundred….

But why not grow PSL?

Why not make the PSL Brand value so strong that anyone would prefer PSL over Hundred?

Get your own house in order before talking about others…..
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Why? It would require a lot of time, money and other efforts. Crying victim on the drop of a hat is much easier and pragmatic option.
 
KB said:
Cricket is great window into the hyper-nationalism that exists amongst a vocal section of Indians. Imagine if India was a real super-power! As Mukul Kesavan put it in a tweet:

"If Modi had a superpower at his disposal, this is how desi security pundits would talk. But he doesn’t. So franchise cricket is the puddle in which fawning enablers flex their tiny muscles"
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Compared to any other asian and European countries, Modi had performed extraordinarily well to flex his muscle to get whatever he wants.. Indian economy and government is very stable compared to any asian or European countries despite the tariff pressure and India is the only country to maintain equal relationship and respect both with Russia and USA..also they made best deal with European Union...Modis popularity is no match to any lea
 
KB said:
Cricket is great window into the hyper-nationalism that exists amongst a vocal section of Indians. Imagine if India was a real super-power! As Mukul Kesavan put it in a tweet:

"If Modi had a superpower at his disposal, this is how desi security pundits would talk. But he doesn’t. So franchise cricket is the puddle in which fawning enablers flex their tiny muscles"
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Yup. The programing at Xaviers school combined with St Stephens brainwashing can b e difficult to over come. Combined with his overprivleged upbringing, he probably doesn't have the intellectual fortitude to break through. Such is the power of GNV
 
Rana said:
I don’t know if you have seen the footage on social media where there were Indians at some pool club in Thailand not allowed entry specifically because they were Indians.

Everyone else was being allowed in right in front of them but the Indians were denied entry.

Initially I felt really bad. This is not right.

Now, reading so many of the comments by even educated Indians….i think it’s fair what happened to them. These guys have lost all sense of what is right and what is wrong.

Bhaar main jaye yeh ab!
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Common..your country was banned for a decade from hosting any international matches..many countries still send second string sides to tour your country fearing of terror strikes..they provide presidential level security to any team travelling to your country..And you are quoting on some club match ban which most of the Indians are unaware..
 
Red-Indian said:
I suppose it's one thing if the folks being discriminated against were UK citizens even if they were brown.

But to expect the Brits and their media to work themselves up into a lather about some Indians discriminating against some Pakistanis is a bit much.

I suppose folks like @Rana still have all these romantic notions about the British and their sense of civilization, fairness and justice. For most of us 'browns' though, the scales have long since fallen.
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I think this is a complex issue and several things can be true at the same time (and not mutually exclusive):

1) There has been quite some media attention given to this issue, not just by the BBC. As an example, The Times had a piece on Saturday, by Simon Wilde, on their main Sports page, discussing the potential exclusion of Pakistani players (as you know cricket jostles with football to get any attention).
The Times is solidly on the centre right politically.

2) The UK has become a less tolerant society during my lifetime --unclear why; maybe the rise of populism (Reform etc) , an abreaction as a consequence of large scale immigration from the EU preceding Brexit, and then the Boris wave afterwards (predominantly South Asian).
Who knows ?

3) The UK still remains probably the best example of a multicultural society in the world (someone of Indian origin was PM (Sunak) , the leader of the opposition is of Nigerian origin (Badenoch) , the current Home Sec (Mahmood) is of Pakistani origin)
Try being Hindu or Christian in Pakistan, Muslim in India etc
On a sporting level, few countries would be as relaxed about large numbers of post immigrant communities cheering their side against the home country. Last year, with some Indian friends, I was in a box at Lords -- large number of British Indians were there and there was no real enmity.
Imagine being in the US at a sporting event and cheering an opposition side against the US


Reading the comments in The Times this potential ban (and we really don't know much about it) has struck a nerve but not just amongst indigenous population. Many of my close friends are Indian and are appalled about this.
 
Cover Drive Six said:
That’s not the point. You’re deflecting too much instead of simply accepting your hateful post, where you said Muslims in India should have more births to outnumber Hindus and take over. You’re the last person who should be lecturing others about hatred with that birth-rate analogy.
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any alleged comment i may have made does not negate the fact that you could not counter a single point i made, i dont even remember the comment your talking about, and if taken out in context it was hateful id own it, however you could never take even the slightest ownership of the fact that you couldnt negate a single point i made, because it reinforces your obsession, to come to a pakistani website and ruminate over a post a pakistani might have made years ago. this website is full of indians obsessed with pakistan, and your just one of them. im living rent free in your head bro, enjoy it.
:afridi
 
gibsyhesperis said:
I think this is a complex issue and several things can be true at the same time (and not mutually exclusive):

1) There has been quite some media attention given to this issue, not just by the BBC. As an example, The Times had a piece on Saturday, by Simon Wilde, on their main Sports page, discussing the potential exclusion of Pakistani players (as you know cricket jostles with football to get any attention).
The Times is solidly on the centre right politically.

2) The UK has become a less tolerant society during my lifetime --unclear why; maybe the rise of populism (Reform etc) , an abreaction as a consequence of large scale immigration from the EU preceding Brexit, and then the Boris wave afterwards (predominantly South Asian).
Who knows ?

3) The UK still remains probably the best example of a multicultural society in the world (someone of Indian origin was PM (Sunak) , the leader of the opposition is of Nigerian origin (Badenoch) , the current Home Sec (Mahmood) is of Pakistani origin)
Try being Hindu or Christian in Pakistan, Muslim in India etc
On a sporting level, few countries would be as relaxed about large numbers of post immigrant communities cheering their side against the home country. Last year, with some Indian friends, I was in a box at Lords -- large number of British Indians were there and there was no real enmity.
Imagine being in the US at a sporting event and cheering an opposition side against the US


Reading the comments in The Times this potential ban (and we really don't know much about it) has struck a nerve but not just amongst indigenous population. Many of my close friends are Indian and are appalled about this.
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I suppose I'll have to see it to believe it - that Brits are so enamored with fairness to foreigners that they will endanger their league to force Indians to pick Pakistanis - a BBC article and Times Opinion piece not withstanding.

The mood in India is definitely such that Indian owners will risk a lot of unpopularity in picking Pakistani players. Okay for folks who don't have an IPL team I suppose but my guess is IPL team owners would rather divest the British teams than risk any blowback to their highly valuable IPL teams.

Not a great situation I agree but hardly surprising given the geopolitical scenario we live in.
 
Rana said:
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All good.

However proving it will be a difficult task. I don’t think IND owners will be bothered by this and it seems to be a formality by the ECB.

Unfortunately the naye daulatye IND owners are bringing their pettiness and politics to the civilized world. As long as we keep it limited to their own country the world will be a much better place.
 
Hawkeye said:
All good.

However proving it will be a difficult task. I don’t think IND owners will be bothered by this and it seems to be a formality by the ECB.

Unfortunately the naye daulatye IND owners are bringing their pettiness and politics to the civilized world. As long as we keep it limited to their own country the world will be a much better place.
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I think the Indian owners are pressured by the Indian government but now they can say ECB won’t allow this . At least 1 Pak player will be signed by those clubs
 
KingKhanWC said:
I think the Indian owners are pressured by the Indian government but now they can say ECB won’t allow this . At least 1 Pak player will be signed by those clubs
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Nah. I'd be very surprised. A bare handful of Pakistani players have played in the 100 even when there were no Indian owners...none last year.

At best, a couple of Indian owned teams might throw in a very low bid or two on some player to play the farce through.
 
Red-Indian said:
Nah. I'd be very surprised. A bare handful of Pakistani players have played in the 100 even when there were no Indian owners...none last year.

At best, a couple of Indian owned teams might throw in a very low bid or two on some player to play the farce through.
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We will see but ECB cant afford another race issue . Theres enough for one or two
 
The best thing for the Pakistanis at this stage is to hope that nobody - zero of them - are picked. Then the resultant hullaballoo will ensure that they are never accorded such treatment again next year and beyond.

The worst that can happen is that a token 1 or 2 are selected. Then they will be just above the poverty line and sacrifice their right to complain.

By the way, I still maintain that this format is junk and for cricketing reasons they will do best to stay away.
 

ECB reminds Hundred franchises of responsibilities​


The England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) has written to the eight Hundred franchises reminding them of their responsibilities around discrimination.

Earlier this week, BBC Sport reported Pakistan cricketers are not being considered by the four Indian-owned sides for next month's Hundred auction.

Pakistan players do not play in the Indian Premier League (IPL) amid ongoing political tensions between the two countries and that trend is reflected at IPL-owned franchises around the world.

ECB chief executive Richard Gould said last year he expected "players from all nations to be selected for all teams" in The Hundred and warned "clear anti-discrimination policies" were in place.

The ECB retained overall control of The Hundred when it sold stakes in the eight teams last year, though its power has been diluted with the presence of new owners.

It cannot compel teams to pick players and any accusations of discrimination would have to be backed up by clear evidence.

The ECB could refer a franchise to the cricket regulator, which can also carry out its own investigations. The governing body could also hand out its own separate punishments.

Two Pakistan internationals - Mohammad Amir and Imad Wasim - appeared in last year's tournament, which was the final edition before new investors took control.

More than 60 Pakistan players were among the 964 to sign up for the auction, which takes place on 11 and 12 March.

This week, teams will submit a list of players of interest, which will whittle down the overall options to a longlist of less than 200 players who will go to the auction.

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The Hundred: ECB writes to team owners to remind them of responsibilities

The England and Wales Cricket Board writes to the eight Hundred franchises reminding them of their responsibilities around discrimination.
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KB said:
Cricket is great window into the hyper-nationalism that exists amongst a vocal section of Indians. Imagine if India was a real super-power! As Mukul Kesavan put it in a tweet:

"If Modi had a superpower at his disposal, this is how desi security pundits would talk. But he doesn’t. So franchise cricket is the puddle in which fawning enablers flex their tiny muscles"
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My hope is that it’s just a vocal section that’s bought into this hyper-nationalism. I know Ind is a land of great thinkers, anybody who lives by principles knows that might is right theories come with a shelf life by definition.
 
chakdeindian said:
Not in your country as well..
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It's not . But there's a key difference between India and Pakistan. Many Pakistanis have dual citizenship in the UK. So it might not be my country personally but my Pakistani diaspora is very much invested in the UK. They will not take Indian discrimination lightly. This forum is a prime example.

Since you guys don't have dual citizenship, you will have to burn your Indian passport to be a UK citizen.
 
Pakistan hopes ECB ensures fairness In The Hundred auction as IPL-owned teams set to ignore it's players

Pakistan cricket authorities are preparing to formally raise concerns with their counterparts in England amid reports that their players may be overlooked by Indian-owned franchises in this year’s edition of The Hundred, a report said on Sunday.

Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) officials are expected to write to the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB), urging them to ensure Pakistani players are treated fairly in the player auction scheduled for March 11 and 12, the Telecom Asia Sport said in a report.

According to media reports in England, agents representing Pakistan cricketers have been informed they are not being considered by Manchester Super Giants, MI London, Southern Brave and Sunrisers Leeds, the four franchises that are co-owned by owners if IPL teams.

Sources told www.telecomasia.net that Pakistan officials view any blanket exclusion as contrary to the principles of inclusivity the ECB promotes.

“The Pakistan Cricket Board, through Salman Naseer, is due to write to the ECB asking them to ensure Pakistani players are not treated unfairly,” sources told Telecom Asia Sport.

“Any bias would go against the ECB’s commitment to inclusivity and equal opportunity for Asian players.”

The report said that officials also point to traditionally strong cricketing relations between England and Pakistan, noting that fears about Pakistani participation in the competition surfaced previously.

Last season, both Imad Wasim and Mohammad Amir featured for the Northern Superchargers, evidence, they sources say, that participation has been both viable and successful.

The report claimed that this year, dozens of Pakistan players, across men’s and women’s categories, have registered for the auction, highlighting strong interest from the country’s talent pool.

The report said that the issue has also drawn reaction within England’s cricketing community.

White-ball captain Harry Brook criticised the idea of Pakistan players being overlooked.

“Pakistan have been a great cricket nation for many years and have some awesome players… It would be a shame not to see some of them in The Hundred,” Brook saidon the sidelies of the T20 World Cup 2026.

Former England captain Michael Vaughan has also urged the ECB to examine the situation closely.

The report said that for Pakistan, the issue is about more about the credibility of a global competition built on diversity and merit rather than auction dynamics.

With the auction approaching, attention now turns to whether the ECB will step in, and whether The Hundred can balance franchise autonomy with the inclusive principles it publicly champions, the report claimed.

However, it will be impossible for ECB to prove that it was not team composition and auction dynamics that prevailed and the franchises deliberately ignore the Pakistani players.

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Pakistan hopes ECB ensures fairness In The Hundred auction as IPL-owned teams set to ignore it's players

Pakistan Cricket Board plans to address the ECB, concerned about potential unfair treatment of Pakistani players in The Hundred auction by IPL-owned franchises. They emphasize inclusivity and equal opportunity.
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ECBs letter means nothing. Franchise owners will simply not buy Pak cricketers saying 'on merit'. So how can one prove discrimination? And lets be honest, Pak players are no world beaters either to think otherwise.

Bottomline is, Indian owners are not permitted to buy any Pak & BD players. We all saw what happened with SRK and KKR during Mustafizur saga. So any Pak cricketer and we destroy peace in social media. Let a non Indian owner buy a team and have all Pak XI featuring in it for all we care. However, an Indian owner cannot have a Pak player. Simple.
 
Rajdeep said:
ECBs letter means nothing. Franchise owners will simply not buy Pak cricketers saying 'on merit'. So how can one prove discrimination?
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Just like it was proven that Yorkshire CC was institutionally racist 🤡

Indians and their pro BJP backwas makes them feel they live on another planet
 
Rana said:
I advise all sincere Pakistani’s, British Pakistanis who have the best interest of humanity to not even debate with racist Indian scum posters here.

There is no justification for racism and discrimination. Tunn ke Rakho in besharmo ko.

@Major @DeadlyVenom @sweep_shot @shaz619 @topspin @emranabbas @GLORY OF '92
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Correct.

I feel like debating frequently with the sanghis can lower someone's IQ.

Their arguments are not based on logic/facts. They propagate fake news and distort facts.
 
Rana said:
Imagine contradicting yourself in the space of 10 words 🤡
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I didnt contradict. All I am saying is Indian owners will not buy Pak or BD players and will cite merit being the reason. How can ECB prove otherwise?

Also, what is this desperation by Pak players/fans to play under Indians? Apne team me khelo yaar.
 
Rana said:
Just like it was proven that Yorkshire CC was institutionally racist 🤡

Indians and their pro BJP backwas makes them feel they live on another planet
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Imagine Pakistanis calling every institution around the world as 'ray-cists' for discriminating against brown boys when their own country never allows any non muslim players. If this is not irony or hypocrisy, what is? My fight is only against this double standard...when we are in majority then 'meri marzi' and when in minority play victim card. I simply cant tolerate this. Rest all cool with any players playing anywhere.
 
Rajdeep said:
Imagine Pakistanis calling every institution around the world as 'ray-cists' for discriminating against brown boys when their own country never allows any non muslim players. If this is not irony or hypocrisy, what is? My fight is only against this double standard...when we are in majority then 'meri marzi' and when in minority play victim card. I simply cant tolerate this. Rest all cool with any players playing anywhere.
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But brother @Rana is a brit not a Pak. He is standing up for the the fairness principle of the brits.

The zimbabwe 2009 WC visa issue is completely unrelated and UK is the epitome of fairness and rule of law.
 
Rana said:
Reading all the responses from Indians here (not all) makes you think that it’s not discrimination if Indians say so . (y)
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I think that's a misread. Mos Indians here are asking what exactly the consequences would be, given the difficulty in proving it legally
 
rpant_gabba said:
The zimbabwe 2009 WC visa issue is completely unrelated and UK is the epitome of fairness and rule of law.
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This is why I would rather stick a middle finger to you bigots who advocate for Racism and Discrimination instead of actually having a sensible discussion

How TF is England’s foreign policy (in 2009) related to Indian businessmen being allowed to discriminate in England????
 
We’re not in the right on this one. I said that at the outset.

Doing it in your nation is one thing. Doing it outside another

If you want to forget the morality of it, go ahead. But remember that there will be consequences in most if not all western nations.

And if you dismiss the consequences, that’s fine. But don’t complain when fellow Indians abroad are discriminated against.

On the other hand proving it is not that easy either.
 
Rana said:
This is why I would rather stick a middle finger to you bigots who advocate for Racism and Discrimination instead of actually having a sensible discussion

How TF is England’s foreign policy (in 2009) related to Indian businessmen being allowed to discriminate in England????
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So the whole sport should be separate from politics, it can bring people together and bridge divide etc, all that is garbage?
 
Its just disturbing how indians here are justifying discrimination now and going to the lengths of saying prove it.

The racism here is very very disturbing.
 
Major said:
Its just disturbing how indians here are justifying discrimination now and going to the lengths of saying prove it.

The racism here is very very disturbing.
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That’s why their is no civil debate on this subject with them.

Tomorrow, they will justify rape and murder by their country using flimsy arguments.
 
Cryin Out Loud said:
We’re not in the right on this one. I said that at the outset.

Doing it in your nation is one thing. Doing it outside another

If you want to forget the morality of it, go ahead. But remember that there will be consequences in most if not all western nations.

And if you dismiss the consequences, that’s fine. But don’t complain when fellow Indians abroad are discriminated against.

On the other hand proving it is not that easy either.
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Isn't already happening? What's new?

Hasn't putting oneself on a moral pedestal harmed India enough?
 
Red-Indian said:
I suppose I'll have to see it to believe it - that Brits are so enamored with fairness to foreigners that they will endanger their league to force Indians to pick Pakistanis - a BBC article and Times Opinion piece not withstanding.

The mood in India is definitely such that Indian owners will risk a lot of unpopularity in picking Pakistani players. Okay for folks who don't have an IPL team I suppose but my guess is IPL team owners would rather divest the British teams than risk any blowback to their highly valuable IPL teams.

Not a great situation I agree but hardly surprising given the geopolitical scenario we live in.
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I'm not sure why it should matter too much to Indians if Indian owned franchises pick Pakistani players in overseas leagues.

I don't think the common man particularly cares about it unless this blows up on X or in our predominantly right wing media.

It's after all a foreign league.

After all, we have no problems with PCB earning from playing Asia Cup matches against us three times in a row etc.
 
rpant_gabba said:
But brother @Rana is a brit not a Pak. He is standing up for the the fairness principle of the brits.

The zimbabwe 2009 WC visa issue is completely unrelated and UK is the epitome of fairness and rule of law.
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The original Brits are fair people who believes in equal opportunity and acceptance for all. So from that perspective, what ECB is saying is right. However, whenever I hear Pakistani fans crying about discrimination, it makes me chuckle. These guys will never ask the same question why no minority players given oppirtunity ever to represent their national side? The excuse we are given is they dont make the team on merit. So Indian owners owning franchise teams can also give same excuse. No one can question them.
 
Rajdeep said:
The original Brits are fair people who believes in equal opportunity and acceptance for all.
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blah. who are the original brits you refer to? as a country and organizations, brits hardly a standard of fairness. its simply a mantra the y use to their advantage and gullible idiots fall for it
Rajdeep said:
So from that perspective, what ECB is saying is right.
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nope. ECB is simply playing to the gallery and anyone puts his trust in fairness of ECB is, IMO, an idiot
 
Nikhil_cric said:
I'm not sure why it should matter too much to Indians if Indian owned franchises pick Pakistani players in overseas leagues.

I don't think the common man particularly cares about it unless this blows up on X or in our predominantly right wing media.

It's after all a foreign league.

After all, we have no problems with PCB earning from playing Asia Cup matches against us three times in a row etc.
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I would've thought so but there seems to be a batch of internet right wing trolls who seem to use these as a chance to make hay.

Poor Mustafizur was asked to be dropped
See the controversy on a Pakistani influencer picked by Malabar for their London stores...nothing to do with India

I can easily see this snowballing into a lack of patriotism issue on the net. Why should the Indian owners risk it? After all, it's not the like the Pakistani players are so good that they're worth risking this backlash. Also given the amounts they've all played, they're probably betting on being able to create some viewership in the Indian market as well so they'll want to be extra careful.
 
Another apartheid / mugabe regime basically
This is what bob woolmer and mickey Arthur were fighting against when they tried to uplift Pakistani cricket against these extremists
 
Rana said:
I advise all sincere Pakistani’s, British Pakistanis who have the best interest of humanity to not even debate with racist Indian scum posters here.

There is no justification for racism and discrimination. Tunn ke Rakho in besharmo ko.

@Major @DeadlyVenom @sweep_shot @shaz619 @topspin @emranabbas @GLORY OF '92
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I aim to avoid debates with any sub-human folk, there are a couple who are ok to have bants with and equally amusing to watch em run off with their tail between their shaking legs
:akhtar
 
IF only Naqvi not cared for show off and insanity of boycotts. he could have lobbied with BCCI to pave way for Pakistan cricketers in feeder IPL games. But no surprise Pakistan players will be the one suffering here
 
Kianig89 said:
IF only Naqvi not cared for show off and insanity of boycotts. he could have lobbied with BCCI to pave way for Pakistan cricketers in feeder IPL games. But no surprise Pakistan players will be the one suffering here
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Yes, Naqvi is at fault at Indians exploiting the UK discrimination acts and laws 🤡

@Major wth is wrong with this guy?
 
Bet all this is synchronized action by the 100 and the Indian owners.

Now the Pakistani fans will be glued to the auction and the season ahead!

A season of a joke non-format, might I add.
 
Kianig89 said:
IF only Naqvi not cared for show off and insanity of boycotts. he could have lobbied with BCCI to pave way for Pakistan cricketers in feeder IPL games. But no surprise Pakistan players will be the one suffering here
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No man unless BJP is in government
Relationship between these two countries are not changing anytime soon
 
rpant_gabba said:
blah. who are the original brits you refer to? as a country and organizations, brits hardly a standard of fairness. its simply a mantra the y use to their advantage and gullible idiots fall for it

nope. ECB is simply playing to the gallery and anyone puts his trust in fairness of ECB is, IMO, an idiot
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Brother, countries like England and Australia are fairly tolerant who gives equal opportunities to everyone. That is why like Azeem Rafiq can get away with millions of dollar compensation after accusing Yorkshire board of racism. That is why they tolerate the rant of Usman Khwaja, a privelged guy who get to play so many test matches. Then compare it with Danish Kaneria and the treatment he got for exposing dressing room secrets.

Maybe because you live in America, which is pretty multicultural to begin with, dont understand what happens in this side of the pond. People almost brown nose to brownies to avoid getting called as 'Ray-cists'. This is ofcourse changing with all right wingers slowly coming to the fore but tolerance is pretty much a British thing. So from that aspect what ECB is saying is correct i.e there must be no discrminiation based on race or religion.

However, they dont know the entire story. The people they are fighting for, they do biggest discrimination in their own home nations. How many minority players you see playing for Pakistan or Afghanistan? Ofcourse ECB will not such questions but Indians are not as naive as Angrez. They knows the ground realities very well and will pull the same card.

No Pakistani players as they dont get into the side by merit. This will be said to ECB by Indian owners. Lets see how they prove discrimination.
 
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Red-Indian said:
If the ECB and the English legal system genuinely wants to pursue this and actually penalise Indian owned teams for discrimination, there are obviously ways.

Team internal records can be subpoenaed and checked to see whether Pakistani players were evaluated similarly to other international players, whether there were any communications from team owners instructing coaches and officials not to select Pakistani players. Non-Indian team officials can whistleblow. Unless teams have gone through an elaborate coverup to show cricketing reasons, it can be discovered.

Whether they will actually do it therefore threatening their main funding source and endangering the league depends on the level of public outcry and media attention. Pakistani players are not exactly wildly popular in the UK. We'll have to wait and see. Doubt it'll be more than a mild slap on the wrist and some small fine anyway.
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Go find the whistle blower, you won’t because the team management is mostly indian and even before the Indian owners the 100 wasn’t a heavy investor in Pakistani players
 
Rana said:
If Indian owners are not allowed to buy players from specific countries,


Then please just get out of our country!
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Give them back their £500mn they were invited to uk to invest their money, they didn’t come to the uk to live off social benefits
 

Hundred deals 'not in our hands' - Pakistan's Farhan​

Leading batter Sahibzada Farhan says he knows T20 franchises are interested in Pakistan players but admitted whether they are picked in the Hundred auction is "not in our hands".

Farhan, 29, is one of more than 60 Pakistan players to have signed up for next month's inaugural Hundred auction.

Last week BBC Sport reported Pakistan cricketers are not being considered by the four Indian-owned sides.

"This is not in our hands who picks us or who doesn't," Farhan, 29, said.

"Whoever is interested in picking us can and we are ready to play in that league.

"It's not like people are not interested in us."

Pakistan players do not play in the Indian Premier League (IPL) amid ongoing political tensions between the two countries, and that trend is reflected at IPL-owned franchises around the world.

MI London, Manchester Super Giants, Sunrisers Leeds and Southern Brave are all now part or fully-owned by IPL sides after the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) sold stakes in the teams last year.

Trent Rockets, London Spirit, Birmingham Phoenix and Welsh Fire are the non IPL-owned teams.

Farhan is currently the leading run-scorer at the T20 World Cup and scored a century against Namibia in the group stage.

He has registered for the auction at a base price of £50,000 – half the amount of some players.

"I'm very hopeful," he said.

"Because every player wants to play every league, play in the good leagues.

"The Hundred is one of the best leagues. So I hope for the best."

Pakistan play England in the T20 World Cup in Sri Lanka on Tuesday.

Thirteen of their 15-strong squad registered for the auction with batter Fakhar Zaman and former captain Babar Azam, who is likely to be with the Test squad during the Hundred, the only absentees.

Left-arm seamer Shaheen Afridi and fellow quick Haris Rauf, who have played in the Hundred previously, and all-rounder Saim Ayub are among those to have signed up with the highest base price of £100,000.

England captain Harry Brook said last week it would be "a shame" if Pakistan players were not involved.

The ECB wrote to the eight franchises on Sunday reminding them of their responsibilities around discrimination.


www.bbc.co.uk

The Hundred: Pakistan batter Sahibzada Farhan says outcome of Hundred auction 'out of our hands'

Leading batter Sahibzada Farhan says he knows T20 franchises are interested in Pakistan players but admitted whether they are picked in the Hundred auction is "not in our hands".
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
Rana said:
Just like it was proven that Yorkshire CC was institutionally racist 🤡

Indians and their pro BJP backwas makes them feel they live on another planet
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There was a whistleblower there, here the management is in India and Indian and highly unlikely to help Pakistanis no matter what you post
 
cricketjoshila said:
There was a whistleblower there, here the management is in India and Indian and highly unlikely to help Pakistanis no matter what you post
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All of the teams are naturally going to have a significant amount of staff and management involved that are not Indian.
 
Rana said:
Just like it was proven that Yorkshire CC was institutionally racist 🤡


This isn’t a yorkshirecc these are multi billion dollar corporations, they don’t function like yorkshire cc, they have multiple teams, they can simply sign a player from one of their existing teams and simply argue that the decision was made on the basis of having a known quantity and not on nationality and then we can have more whining threads on pp

Indians and their pro BJP backwas makes them feel they live on another planet
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shah9425 said:
No man unless BJP is in government
Relationship between these two countries are not changing anytime soon
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Not putting kerosene on fire helps, but naqvi is more interested in strengthening his political position, previous BCCI leaders have been able to suggest and get support from uncooperative governments to make politically un comfortable decisions
 
cricketjoshila said:
Rest assured that top management who will be taking decisions and bidding will be Indian
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Only 2 of the 8 teams are majority directly owned by IPL investors. Those 2 teams have already hired 4 non-Indian head coaches between them. The owners are clearly going to have to reveal their position as bigoted criminals to someone if that's the route they're wanting to go down.
 
Former England all-rounder Moeen Ali calls on players to put pressure on ECB to prevent discrimination by Indian-owned Hundred teams:

“In the UK, I’m not sure that can happen – and I hope it doesn’t happen,” Moeen told Telegraph Sport. “It just shouldn’t happen, hopefully it won’t happen. We just have to wait and see if it does, but I think it’d be a massive shame, and I’m sure the ECB will definitely keep an eye out.”

“There’ll be a group of players that will speak up, there’ll be things done about it. I think players should speak up. Anyone that has any sort of concern for these kind of things – it doesn’t matter if they have Pakistani heritage – should speak up."

“Obviously, the news is very new. So I’ve not really had a chance to speak to anyone, but most of the players would be on the same page."

“It’d be really interesting to see what happens, because I genuinely think other countries can do what they want, obviously we’re not in control of those things, but in the UK, we have a bit more say about these things.”

“These kind of things have been happening for ages now it’s time for a solution, because it’s not fair – it’s obviously discriminating against certain type of people, It’s horrible."

“I just find it strange that no one really talks about it too much. Especially at the top, no one really mentions it. People have not been speaking about it so they don’t get in trouble.”

“It’s such a difficult one, because all these teams are everywhere in every league. So now if players speak out, or if they say anything, then it affects their career. It’s a difficult position for players to be in. When you’re an older player like myself, you don’t really care too much.”

“The difficulty is that you can’t really prove anything if they don’t get picked. But if it happens for three or four years in a row, that’s different.”

“It probably didn’t even cross their mind that much, honestly, because our mindset is not like that in England, I just think when they sold, it just didn’t cross their mind,”

“I would love to see Pakistan play India in England at a neutral ground. I think it’d be amazing for Test cricket, because they never play against each other. The crowds would be amazing, and the following would be amazing.

“Imagine what it’ll do for the game. The following that the teams have in England is huge. It’d be amazing to have that.”
 
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