IPL to have two-and-a-half month window in ICC's next FTP cycle: Jay Shah/PCB reaction

[cricketjoshila]

PCB refute above report:

We have not commented on the BCCI proposal of a 2 ½ months IPL window in the ICC FTP 2023-2007. Having said that, it is public knowledge that the ICC AGM is in Birmingham, but to attribute this to a PCB spokesperson in response to a BCCI statement, is inaccurate and false.

Unko koi call aaya kya?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Unko koi call aaya kya?

Could be that Indian Journos made it up for clickbait.

 

[Sir Alex]

Because it effects the cricket calendar for everyone.

It does not affect Pakistan as they are not sending players to IPL. Nothing is there which stops other countries from scheduling their own bilateral engagements during IPL. So what am I missing?

 

[Sir Alex]

As a business deal it's a no brainer but us that love cricket and especially traditional International cricket can see the existential crisis coming its way in the very near future. For example the test yesterday will be remembered for decades but no IPL or any franchise game is remembered for more than a few weeks.

There is no doubt about it. IPL does not and should not cannibalize test cricket. It should instead kill meaningless bilateral limited over games. Especially bilateral t20is.

 

[Sir Alex]

I do not think IPL will fold, but I do believe IPL is over hyped and the hype will come crashing down.

Need the hype now more than ever since blockbuster IPL players are no more.

I think it's unlikely this will happen. The investments in IPL are too big to let that happen. Not to mention a whole generation of young cricketers who are targeting to play in this league and become instant superstars

Ipl isn't going anywhere but will grow even more. Occupy more space and time. For good or bad. It's inevitable.

 

[Sir Alex]

Why shouldn't they?

Gives the impression they are obsessed with BCCI and India, as this really doesn't concern them directly.

 

[Sir Alex]

Just saw the refusal. Good stuff.

 

[CleverSir]

I hope PSL is learning. It’s time to up the competition and try and become the second best league after IPL. Start marketing it better, get better processes in place. Make sure that franchises are investing year round in social media campaigns. These owners want all the money but no responsibility. They’ve been given a larger cut of the pie but they don’t really spend it on the teams. I hope they keep the draft system in place. It’s unique to cricket, just maybe needs a bit of refinement.

Either way, I hope the PCB doesn’t drop the ball on this.

 

[Technics 1210]

I think it's unlikely this will happen. The investments in IPL are too big to let that happen. Not to mention a whole generation of young cricketers who are targeting to play in this league and become instant superstars

Ipl isn't going anywhere but will grow even more. Occupy more space and time. For good or bad. It's inevitable.

Caveat : Investment in IPL is predominately from domestic Indian companies.

IPL can play 12 months a year, but when an ICC world cup in on during the same period, are you telling me IPL players will stick to their franchise teams or play cricket at an International level? If the former, then it may explain why Indian has yet to win a T20WC since inception of IPL.

IPL might be growing within India, but outside of India, it’s a flop. Hence Amazon, Facebook, SKY et al bailed on the rights.

 

[Technics 1210]

Remember, Viacom18, backed by Mukesh Ambani, 51% owner, bought the rights, not an international owning company, but a V18, registered in India, and HQ’s in India.

Same with Star, an Indian company, part owned by Disney.

There is no international appetite for IPL.

As the saying goes, keeping it within the family.

 

[Technics 1210]

Also, lets not forget, if IPL is extended for x number of months, are the franchises going to maintain the per weekly/contract salaries for each player, or average out across the month? Where a player is paid 1M for 6 weeks, will a player be paid 2M for 12 weeks?

The dream of IPL becoming a NBA is just that, a pipe dream, remember, there are a number of NBA players that a BILLIONAIRES thanks to NBA.

 

[MenInG]

Excerpts from another Jay Shah interview:

How do you look at the IPL auction? What has been the biggest takeaway from this entire auction experience?


There are many takeaways from the Media Rights auction but if you ask me to pinpoint one, it is the surge in digital. The numbers for digital have exceeded TV rights and it tells you that the cricket-viewing experience has made a big shift. Be it sports, entertainment, or even your daily news, the personal device is now taking precedence over the traditional medium.

Did BCCI expect this big a sum in total when setting up the process?

Before we released the ITT document, we conducted several studies and surveys and roped in professional agencies to guide us further on the prevailing market structure, its mood vis-a-vis the growth of IPL and its position globally. The IPL is the biggest property in world cricket and was among the top 5 sporting leagues in the world and everybody in the Board expected a high sum that a premium property like the IPL commands.

The per match calculation is coming to Rs 118 crore, which is more than 136 per cent of last cycle's count. It is turning out to be the biggest per match value after the NFL. What do you attribute this rise to?

Many factors have contributed to the progressive growth of the IPL. The three biggest reasons are the world-class cricket on display and fan engagement. Right from the first season, the fans have rallied around the teams and have loved the concept of this unique tournament. Its popularity has grown over the years and the Board has pulled out all stops to ensure that IPL's continuity is maintained. When the BCCI conducted the 13th and 14th seasons of the IPL despite the pandemic restrictions, the stakeholders acknowledged the gigantic operation. The trust and faith of our investors grew manifold. Sporting activities across the globe had come to a halt but we still conducted two seasons in the UAE by putting in place a very secured bio-bubble. Over 30,000 RT-PCR tests were conducted, and our expenses nearly doubled but we still went ahead and conducted two seasons during a very difficult phase.

What was the reasoning behind introducing Package C which turned out to be a game-changer?

In 2008 when the IPL started, digital rights were considered an offshoot; we are now in 2022 and India has witnessed a digital revolution. The digital content platforms have changed the landscape. As I mentioned in my tweet, the potential in this sector is endless. The advent of 5G will take it to another level. We had put in considerable thought before announcing two sets of digital rights. The competition among the OTT platforms is intense and the new category meant that more bidders could still be in the race even if they missed out on Package B, which is the exclusive rights.

What is your view on having two different broadcast partners now? Is it beneficial for them, do they see it as being beneficial for the viewers?

The NFL is the biggest sporting league in the world and it has five different broadcast partners. If you remember, we were close to having multiple broadcasters during the last cycle itself before Star's consolidated bid outbid others. Having multiple broadcast partners means the game will reach a wider pool of audience and it will grow further. The BCCI has a duty to promote the game within India and globally. It surely benefits the audience as cricket-loving fans will now have more access to IPL matches.

How do you see this auction and the price paid changing the global cricket market?

The IPL has laid down a marker for other cricket leagues, for the global market and also for major sporting leagues in terms of broadcast and the future of sports. There have been instances where conglomerates have purchased the ITT to understand the structure and get an insight into broadcasting valuations. International cricket works a lot differently while the IPL is a completely different tournament.

With so much investment, do you see the possibility of expanding the IPL in the future in terms of teams?

We have just had two new teams coming into the IPL fold and both were amazing. While Gujarat Titans won the title, Lucknow Super Giants made it to the playoffs and were even No. 1 team on quite a few occasions during the league stage. It was a tight contest to get to the playoffs. Expansion of the IPL in terms of teams depends on many factors and for now, the league will continue to have 10 teams.

The deal has been praised for its transparency but was the e-auction difficult to pull off?

We were very clear that the process that we go ahead with must be fully transparent and that is why it was suggested that we take the E-Auction route. The bidders were only seeing figures on their screens. I am pleased with the way it turned out. There were difficulties initially but as I had said we had done our research before we released the ITT and were confident that this method will fetch us optimum value.

Did you expect more participation from other global media platforms such as Amazon and Google?

We had both Indian and global media companies showing interest in the ITT at the time of the auction. The game of cricket must continue to grow and we have to reach out to as many fans as possible via different platforms. Our auction process and the four packages were also designed in a way that it would allow for maximum participation from the interested parties. As the Board secretary, it isn't right for me to talk about any particular platforms and their strategy, but it is always better to have more bidders competing.

The BCCI has hinted at 84 or 94 games. Is a window possible for so many games?

We have been talking with our fellow Member Boards and the ICC about having a bigger dedicated window for the IPL. The IPL is a marquee event on the annual cricket calendar, and it is now only behind the NFL. The quality of cricket that you witness in IPL is world-class with senior international stars coming and playing with and against their Indian counterparts. Not just cricketers but the IPL has some legends of the game now turning up as coaches. It is a fantastic platform and benefits everyone as the experience one gets here is priceless. There will be an increase in the number of games as we go ahead.

 

[MenInG]

Days after the BCCI bagged a whopping amount of over Rs 48,000 crore for the Indian Premier League (IPL) media rights for the 2023-27 cycle, former IPL chairman Lalit Modi, in an exclusive interview to NDTV, said the IPL will become the No. 1 sports league in the world. The former chairman of the franchise cricket league added that he believes that IPL media rights valuation will double again in the next cycle.

"It is the fan base that has done it (increase IPL's valuation). I have always said that in three or four years it will double. The price of IPL will continue to double. If you look at all my interviews from 2008, I said that IPL value will double in terms of media rights. It has gone up by 98 per cent from the last cycle. From the last cycle to this cycle is 98 per cent and I am telling you going forward in the next cycle, it will double again," Modi said.

"It will definitely overtake and I have always said IPL will become No. 1 sports league sooner than later. It all depends on the innovation for the OTT platforms, the digital rights. If we are able to do our act right in digital, you will see digital overtaking television in terms of viewership and in terms of revenue. I think the digital rights will go three-four times of television in the next five years. That is if we get our act right. Money should be spent on technology on the digital platforms. The feel has to change. New technologies will bring user experience to a better level. Right now we are not doing it. BCCI needs to put in the money."

Modi added that his prediction that IPL is recession proof has come true. "The viewership is now probably highest in the world in terms of number of people watching and the eye balls getting attracted to the game. I have always maintained, and everybody laughed at me, that IPL is recession proof. It really is coming out to be true that is recession proof as far as India is concerned. We have got newer and newer fan bases that are joining in. But we have to be careful going forward. Because the younger age group is mostly on digital, that is why the digital rights have gone up tremendously in price but their experience has not been so good in India today as far as watching it on a particular platform," Modi told NDTV.

"The Jio platform that has it, is not very user-friendly at the current moment. When you turn the phone around from horizontal to vertical, it doesn't capture that...that loses the faith in the fans."

Modi was the first chairman and commissioner of the IPL. He was instrumental in running the league from 2008 till 2010. He was also a vice-president of the BCCI from 2005–10.

The former cricket administrator added that the infrastructure needs to be improved in the Indian cricket stadiums. "The IPL has contributed Rs 100,000 crore to the BCCI in total. Rs 58,000 crore last eight years alone. Fifty per cent of the money remains with the BCCI, fifty per cent is shared with the IPL franchises. What has BCCI done to upgrade the infrastructure? You look at Kotla. They should demolish Kotla. They should most of the stadiums and build fresh. You can put world class infrastructure in, air-condition, good toilet, good hygienic eating places, good viewer experience, car parks. You need to put that money in in order to build world-class stadium," he said.

Modi left India in 2010 amid allegations of tax evasion, money-laundering and proxy ownership and is based in London since the last few years. The BCCI has suspended him in 2010 following allegations of financial irregularity and then in 2013, Modi was banned for life by the cricket governing body.

"It (IPL) has really been able to do that (clean-up act). It's moving up in the right direction with the Gujarat Titans performing tremendously in the first season from scratch. That has shown that there is faith now in the game. There is no fixing any more and that it has taken a new turn," he added.

At the IPL media rights e-auction Disney Star retained the TV telecast rights with a bid price of Rs 23,575 crore. “I am thrilled to announce that STAR INDIA wins India TV rights with their bid of Rs 23,575 crores. The bid is a direct testimony to the BCCI's organizational capabilities despite two pandemic years,” BCCI secretary Jay Shah wrote in a tweet.

"Viacom18 bags digital rights with its winning bid of Rs 23,758 cr. India has seen a digital revolution & the sector has endless potential. The digital landscape has changed the way cricket is watched. It has been a big factor in the growth of the game & the Digital India vision," Shah confirmed in another tweet.

Reliance's Viacom18, won the rights for package C with a Rs 3,258 crore winning bid. As a result of this, Viacom, who also won the rights for Package B with a pay out of Rs 20,500 crore (Rs 50 crore per match for 410 matches), ended up paying Rs 23,758 crore for the entire bouquet of digital rights.

The Package D, which included rights for the Rest of the world, was won for a bid of Rs 1058 crore.

In the end it was the BCCI that laughed its way to the bank, raking in a total sum of Rs 48,390 crore for the packages A, B, C and D.

NDTV

 

[AMSS]

If Disney-Star and more importantly Jio manage to break even the cost they've incurred and would incur over the next 5 years, Lalit Modi's prediction is bound to come true.

Hotstar did a truly commendable job over the last 5 years and Jio - with 0 experience in OTT business - have a formidable task cut out for them. If they can make it work, then they would truly position themselves as a massive rival to Amazon Prime and Disney-Hotstar.

Lalit Modi is also spot on about the need to build more modern stadiums like Wankhede/Amdavad or even renovated like Eden Gardens. There's one coming up in Jaipur. Same in Mohali. The one in Lucknow is brand new but the design is meh. Maybe the amenities and facilities are still top notch.

Over the next 5 years, I'd like to see 5-6 new stadiums come up with 75k+ capacity.

 

[U$ofA]

If Disney-Star and more importantly Jio manage to break even the cost they've incurred and would incur over the next 5 years, Lalit Modi's prediction is bound to come true.

Hotstar did a truly commendable job over the last 5 years and Jio - with 0 experience in OTT business - have a formidable task cut out for them. If they can make it work, then they would truly position themselves as a massive rival to Amazon Prime and Disney-Hotstar.

Lalit Modi is also spot on about the need to build more modern stadiums like Wankhede/Amdavad or even renovated like Eden Gardens. There's one coming up in Jaipur. Same in Mohali. The one in Lucknow is brand new but the design is meh. Maybe the amenities and facilities are still top notch.

Over the next 5 years, I'd like to see 5-6 new stadiums come up with 75k+ capacity.

From what I have read, Reliance is partnered with Viacom and Paramount on this. They are going to use Paramount+ infrastructure and expertise to do the streaming. So they will be just fine.

Looks Paramount strategy is to make a big splash with IPL on their entry into the Indian market.

 

[JaDed]

It was a good bidding process so congratulations on that and thank God no more teams in the future.

 

[Kianig89]

Criminal it is , out of 365 days, 75 allocated to IPL with one week rest period before and after , Eng tour Ind for LOI series around 20 days, for 41 days India tours Eng to play 5 Tests, 45 days Ashes and 40 days for BGT, 20-23 days for ICC tourney.

That's 244 days occupied out of 365, 69% of international calendar occupied by Big 3.

The rest of the boards will continue to fight for their stake.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Criminal it is , out of 365 days, 75 allocated to IPL with one week rest period before and after , Eng tour Ind for LOI series around 20 days, for 41 days India tours Eng to play 5 Tests, 45 days Ashes and 40 days for BGT, 20-23 days for ICC tourney.

That's 244 days occupied out of 365, 69% of international calendar occupied by Big 3.

The rest of the boards will continue to fight for their stake.

BGT
Ashes
India England test series isn't every year.

No one is stopping other boards from playing.

Stop crying.

 

[deltexas]

Criminal it is , out of 365 days, 75 allocated to IPL with one week rest period before and after , Eng tour Ind for LOI series around 20 days, for 41 days India tours Eng to play 5 Tests, 45 days Ashes and 40 days for BGT, 20-23 days for ICC tourney.

That's 244 days occupied out of 365, 69% of international calendar occupied by Big 3.

The rest of the boards will continue to fight for their stake.

PCB can schedule their own series. Nobody is stopping them. Plus other than ipl the others are not every year. And you still have other countries. They should invite USA for a t20 series. Will be a "closely" contested series. Much better than a t20 series with Ind because it will be a one sided india dominated borefest. The Amir-Netrawalkar t20 cup lol !

 

[Mockingbird]

Criminal it is , out of 365 days, 75 allocated to IPL with one week rest period before and after , Eng tour Ind for LOI series around 20 days, for 41 days India tours Eng to play 5 Tests, 45 days Ashes and 40 days for BGT, 20-23 days for ICC tourney.

That's 244 days occupied out of 365, 69% of international calendar occupied by Big 3.

The rest of the boards will continue to fight for their stake.

Pakistan should schedule long series with Bangladesh, since they maybe the only 2 boards without representation in the IPL.

 

[sweep_shot]

2.5 months window for IPL! Outrageous.

Cricket is becoming more and more farcical.

 

[deltexas]

2.5 months window for IPL! Outrageous.

Cricket is becoming more and more farcical.

Again nobody is stopping a 90 day BPL. Go ahead. Why keep cribbing on other boards? BCB should grow some spine and show the world how the BPL is not farcial like the ipl.

 

[U$ofA]

PCB can schedule their own series. Nobody is stopping them. Plus other than ipl the others are not every year. And you still have other countries. They should invite USA for a t20 series. Will be a "closely" contested series. Much better than a t20 series with Ind because it will be a one sided india dominated borefest. The Amir-Netrawalkar t20 cup lol !

Well, PCB and NZC have already "stood up" to BCCI/IPL by scheduling a series while the IPL is ongoing. I don't see any reason why the rest of the boards cannot do the same.

 

[ChennaiFan]

Pakistan should schedule long series with Bangladesh, since they maybe the only 2 boards without representation in the IPL.

It is a good idea. That way fans of these two teams won't feel left out. They can also include two more minnows to make it a quadrangular.

 

[ChennaiFan]

Well, PCB and NZC have already "stood up" to BCCI/IPL by scheduling a series while the IPL is ongoing. I don't see any reason why the rest of the boards cannot do the same.

Good for them. With their five or six main players opting to play the IPL, a weakened New Zealand team was expected to be competitive. But, they are dominating the pakistani team.

 

[Sachin fan]

Good for them. With their five or six main players opting to play the IPL, a weakened New Zealand team was expected to be competitive. But, they are dominating the pakistani team.

Yep and testing their bench strength will only make these countries stronger in the future. Win win for all.

 

[ChennaiFan]

Yep and testing their bench strength will only make these countries stronger in the future. Win win for all.

Exactly! Opportunity for some fringe players to become mainstream.

 

[BouncerGuy]

It does not matter... IPL is the money maker.. ICC will do nothing.. CHill

 

[shah9425]

Disgusting league will continue for 2 and half months

What a joke

 

[deltexas]

It is a good idea. That way fans of these two teams won't feel left out. They can also include two more minnows to make it a quadrangular.

Can you request them to invite USA ?
Will be an "evenly" fought , "very closely" contested triangular!

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

It is a good idea. That way fans of these two teams won't feel left out. They can also include two more minnows to make it a quadrangular.

It's happening. Only T20 series Odis cancelled. Power of IPL and BCCI.

 

[deltexas]

Disgusting league will continue for 2 and half months

What a joke

Why is it disgusting ?? Nobody is forcing anyone to watch IPL. A joke ? It is the most competitive cricket league out there by a mile. Nobody is stopping PCB and PCT from scheduling more B team tours.

 

[shah9425]

Why is it disgusting ?? Nobody is forcing anyone to watch IPL. A joke ? It is the most competitive cricket league out there by a mile. Nobody is stopping PCB and PCT from scheduling more B team tours.

Competitive league my foot

I haven't watch this disgusting league since 2009

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Competitive league my foot

I haven't watch this disgusting league since 2009

Yet you come to comment here on the said league. It's living rent free in your head. Koi Nahi PSL is starting soon.

 

[deltexas]

Competitive league my foot

I haven't watch this disgusting league since 2009

Again your opinion doesnt reflect the reality. The way PCB acted during the CT reflected the reality irrespective of what fans like you believe. The reality is what it is simple.

 

[shah9425]

Yet you come to comment here on the said league. It's living rent free in your head. Koi Nahi PSL is starting soon.

I don't care about this **** league

I just saw the thread and posted

 

[U$ofA]

Competitive league my foot

I haven't watch this disgusting league since 2009

Then how do you know if it's competitive or not?

 

[gazza619]

2.5 months window for IPL! Outrageous.

Cricket is becoming more and more farcical.

I would personally give IPL a 12 month window.

The money made from it should then be distributed amongst the viewers. I would happily expect an early pension sitting at home cheering for Chennai SuperKings.

 

[sweep_shot]

I would personally give IPL a 12 month window.

The money made from it should then be distributed amongst the viewers. I would happily expect an early pension sitting at home cheering for Chennai SuperKings.

When England was controlling cricket, they didn't have this type of stupid window for county cricket. England ensured ICC had integrity.

Ever since BCCI took over, ethics and integrity went out of the window.

I think India should withdraw from ICC and just focus on IPL all year long.

 

[U$ofA]

When England was controlling cricket, they didn't have this type of stupid window for county cricket. England ensured ICC had integrity.

Ever since BCCI took over, ethics and integrity went out of the window.

I think India should withdraw from ICC and just focus on IPL all year long.

Withdraw from ICC? The ICC would not let them withdraw from Champions Trophy, let alone ICC.

 

[topspin]

Well that's one way to kill cricket. The sport has turned into a joke, so BCCI ought to hurry up and just get on with it

 

[Mockingbird]

When England was controlling cricket, they didn't have this type of stupid window for county cricket. England ensured ICC had integrity.

Ever since BCCI took over, ethics and integrity went out of the window.

I think India should withdraw from ICC and just focus on IPL all year long.

Why should India withdraw from ICC when no other board has any objection to it? If PCB, BCB have such massive problems with ICC & BCCI they should withdraw and form their own board.

 

[deltexas]

I would personally give IPL a 12 month window.

The money made from it should then be distributed amongst the viewers. I would happily expect an early pension sitting at home cheering for Chennai SuperKings.

Not sure if PCB is giving pension to all the Pak folks cheering for a losing team that gets knocked out in 4 days at home in CT and gets walloped by a NZ B team. If yes, please let us know. Will start cheering for PCB and PCT !

 

[deltexas]

When England was controlling cricket, they didn't have this type of stupid window for county cricket. England ensured ICC had integrity.

Ever since BCCI took over, ethics and integrity went out of the window.

I think India should withdraw from ICC and just focus on IPL all year long.

What window ?? Did you see the other thread ? Aus and Eng hardly played with weak nations last 10 yrs. So imagine in the 70s , 80s, 90s. Check the stats. Ethics LOL ? Ban undeservedly got test status bcos of Dalmiya and BCCI influence when there were other qualified nations. An FYI. Ind can withdraw but guess what ?? Other boards will not let it do it incl PCB. Saw that reality recently in the CT. Yet folks live in denial to the contrary .

 

[ChennaiFan]

Why should India withdraw from ICC when no other board has any objection to it? If PCB, BCB have such massive problems with ICC & BCCI they should withdraw and form their own board.

They cannot form any new board; but they can buy some board, a plastic board that is.

 

[ChennaiFan]

Can you request them to invite USA ?
Will be an "evenly" fought , "very closely" contested triangular!

Sure, nothing wrong in inviting them. But I am not sure if the USA cricket board would be keen to send their team. Remember, those software engineers may not get the time off from their employers to play a low level tournament.

 

[Mas-LFC]

Have the whole year to yourself and destroy the game, while you’re at it. The world of cricket revolves around you. Indeed you have financial cricketing muscle and you know how to misuse it best.

 

[rpant_gabba]

Competitive league my foot

I haven't watch this disgusting league since 2009

yet it is living rent free in your head.

 

[RyanRyan10]

Have the whole year to yourself and destroy the game, while you’re at it. The world of cricket revolves around you. Indeed you have financial cricketing muscle and you know how to misuse it best.

Cricket was flourishing earlier? It's a part of Olympics now and new teams are emerging. Number of participants have increased. And being a BD fan, you should be thankful to the BCCI for letting you have a full member status. Or you are feeling insecure that more new teams will emerge and surpass BD just like Afghanistan have done?

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

Can you request them to invite USA ?
Will be an "evenly" fought , "very closely" contested triangular!

Olympics should have USA as host, thats scary for Pakistan

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

When England was controlling cricket, they didn't have this type of stupid window for county cricket. England ensured ICC had integrity.

Ever since BCCI took over, ethics and integrity went out of the window.

I think India should withdraw from ICC and just focus on IPL all year long.

Some people are happy to be under the white overlords as long as a fellow brown person doesn't rise above.

 

[Kianig89]

Pressure of IPL , ODIs being scrapped all across the globe at this stage 2031, 50 over WC seems a distant dream

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

Pressure of IPL , ODIs being scrapped all across the globe at this stage 2031, 50 over WC seems a distant dream

This year's CT put ODIs on a very downward spiral.

 

[Mas-LFC]

Cricket was flourishing earlier? It's a part of Olympics now and new teams are emerging. Number of participants have increased. And being a BD fan, you should be thankful to the BCCI for letting you have a full member status. Or you are feeling insecure that more new teams will emerge and surpass BD just like Afghanistan have done?

I dont need to be thankful to anyone. I dont care who did what for BD in the beginning tbh. I was born in England. So I dont know. India or bcci does not do anything without any interests, just like 71. Bcci needed another asian vote so it might have helped BD cricket. Pakistan also helped BD get test status by losing the 1999 world cup match. If anything, Bangladesh has to thank its the older brother Pakistan for test status.

 

[sweep_shot]

I dont need to be thankful to anyone. I dont care who did what for BD in the beginning tbh. I was born in England. So I dont know. India or bcci does not do anything without any interests, just like 71. Bcci needed another asian vote so it might have helped BD cricket. Pakistan also helped BD get test status by losing the 1999 world cup match. If anything, Bangladesh has to thank its the older brother Pakistan for test status.

They think we watch cricket for Bangladesh only. LMAO. Retarded thought process.

Engaging with them feels like losing brain cells.

 

[nish_mate]

One can only lose what they had in the first place

 

[Mesozoic]

If anything, Bangladesh has to thank its the older brother Pakistan for test status.

You guys should also thank pakistan for their big hearts
in 71.

 

[sweep_shot]

I dont need to be thankful to anyone. I dont care who did what for BD in the beginning tbh. I was born in England. So I dont know. India or bcci does not do anything without any interests, just like 71. Bcci needed another asian vote so it might have helped BD cricket. Pakistan also helped BD get test status by losing the 1999 world cup match. If anything, Bangladesh has to thank its the older brother Pakistan for test status.

Cricket board which helped Bangladesh the most was Sri Lanka. They invited Bangladesh many times during the infancy days. Also, their coaches did good jobs with BD players.

Pakistan and New Zealand also helped out by inviting Bangladesh multiple times.

Australia also assisted with coaching. Players like Tamim, Shakib etc. were nurtured under Aussie coach Jamie siddons.

India did very little. They didn't invite BD at all till 2017. They are sweet talkers while they stab you in the back from behind.

Anyway, not sure why Indian posters are derailing the thread by bringing in Bangladesh. Thread is about IPL.

 

[RyanRyan10]

I dont need to be thankful to anyone. I dont care who did what for BD in the beginning tbh. I was born in England. So I dont know. India or bcci does not do anything without any interests, just like 71. Bcci needed another asian vote so it might have helped BD cricket. Pakistan also helped BD get test status by losing the 1999 world cup match. If anything, Bangladesh has to thank its the older brother Pakistan for test status.

I don't care where you were born or live neither do I have any interest in discussing formation of your country. This forum is solely for cricket discussion, and you can have discussions about politics in the timepass forum. I don't engage in political discussions. So stay focused on topic rather than going off track . We were discussing the state of cricket and if you are unable to counter the points I have raised, let's leave the discussion here.

 

[Mas-LFC]

I don't care where you were born or live neither do I have any interest in discussing formation of your country. This forum is solely for cricket discussion, and you can have discussions about politics in the timepass forum. I don't engage in political discussions. So stay focused on topic rather than going off track . We were discussing the state of cricket and if you are unable to counter the points I have raised, let's leave the discussion here.

I think you’ll would find, you started going off topic by reminding me to be thankful to BCCI for giving BD test status.

I have a longer response. But since this is a thread about IPL. So let’s leave it there. Alright.

 

[jnaveen1980]

IN 2008 inaugura edition

IPL windows April 18-Jun 1 = That 2 months 12 days

IN 2015

IPL window April 8-May 24 - 1 month 16 days

In 2024

IPL window Mar 24-May 24 - 2 months

• IPL 2025: March 22 to May 25
• IPL 2026: March 15 to May 31
• IPL 2027: March 14 to May 30

Basically 2 months to 2 1/2 months always most of the time. So i am not sure why this window is going to dramatically impact international schedule.

 

[mazkhan]

Apart from indians and Indian expats no one cares about ipl.

Ask your average working class gora steve , white van man Dave, mick , about cricket they wouldn't care and they would have no clue what ipl is , but they would definetly talk about their football team, local hooligan firm, tommy robinson , dinghy invaders and muslims.

That's the reality, cricket isn't followed by the masses in such fervour but only by indians and unfortunately the earth is populated by billions of these. Even in uk cricket was always a game for the toffs , the gentry , the upper middle classes the private school boys and grammar schools it was never a working class man's game where football and rugby league are kings.

The only other cricket game that generates interest is a pakistan vs india clash or the ashes.


But it will definetly sound the death knell of intl cricket and basically render the pcb financially crippled in long run which will more or less cause the collapse of the game in pakistan where interest has waned over the years and you can see the decline .

 

[BouncerGuy]

IPL can have 3 month window for all I care. but the real thing is why ICC has to adjust according to a league??
I think we all know the reason for that as well... That is the problem

 

[deltexas]

Apart from indians and Indian expats no one cares about ipl.

Ask your average working class gora steve , white van man Dave, mick , about cricket they wouldn't care and they would have no clue what ipl is , but they would definetly talk about their football team, local hooligan firm, tommy robinson , dinghy invaders and muslims.

That's the reality, cricket isn't followed by the masses in such fervour but only by indians and unfortunately the earth is populated by billions of these. Even in uk cricket was always a game for the toffs , the gentry , the upper middle classes the private school boys and grammar schools it was never a working class man's game where football and rugby league are kings.

The only other cricket game that generates interest is a pakistan vs india clash or the ashes.


But it will definetly sound the death knell of intl cricket and basically render the pcb financially crippled in long run which will more or less cause the collapse of the game in pakistan where interest has waned over the years and you can see the decline .

Well, its the IPL aka Indian Premier League , so obvious that it is predominantly for local Ind market consumption and Ind expatriates. So why does it matter if non Ind folks dont follow it ? Makes no sense. It was created for the Ind market predominantly just like say PSL . Nobody outside Pak will be interested in it. Thats just the nature of these events right ??

 

[deltexas]

IPL can have 3 month window for all I care. but the real thing is why ICC has to adjust according to a league??
I think we all know the reason for that as well... That is the problem

That is not the problem. It is just the reality, it is what it is. Whether you like it or not, well thats a different matter !

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

IPL can have 3 month window for all I care. but the real thing is why ICC has to adjust according to a league??
I think we all know the reason for that as well... That is the problem

If the ICC doesnt adjust, smaller teams will lose international players to IPL and international cricket will lose its relevance along with the ICC itself. Its straight forward market dynamics no need to hint at some grand conspiracy.

 

[Aang_The_last_airbender]

Apart from indians and Indian expats no one cares about ipl.

Ask your average working class gora steve , white van man Dave, mick , about cricket they wouldn't care and they would have no clue what ipl is , but they would definetly talk about their football team, local hooligan firm, tommy robinson , dinghy invaders and muslims.

That's the reality, cricket isn't followed by the masses in such fervour but only by indians and unfortunately the earth is populated by billions of these. Even in uk cricket was always a game for the toffs , the gentry , the upper middle classes the private school boys and grammar schools it was never a working class man's game where football and rugby league are kings.

The only other cricket game that generates interest is a pakistan vs india clash or the ashes.


But it will definetly sound the death knell of intl cricket and basically render the pcb financially crippled in long run which will more or less cause the collapse of the game in pakistan where interest has waned over the years and you can see the decline .

Racism and genocidal wishes .. wow!

 

[sweep_shot]

IPL can have 3 month window for all I care. but the real thing is why ICC has to adjust according to a league??
I think we all know the reason for that as well... That is the problem

Yes. They can have IPL for 6 months. Who cares?

Issue is ICC having a window for it. Why should there be an ICC window for 2.5 months? That's absurd. Not even World Cup has that kind of window.

ICC needs to be neutral instead of being BCCICC.

 

[charlie007]

EPL (soccer) lasts from August to May and has 380 matches, while Copa America only lasts 25 days or so. World Cup is outside of those dates. Market forces will continue to determine who can play when and it is the same in Cricket. How many games do you think lesser countries play in soccer while their players are busy minting money in leagues?

 

[jnaveen1980]

Apart from indians and Indian expats no one cares about ipl.

Ask your average working class gora steve , white van man Dave, mick , about cricket they wouldn't care and they would have no clue what ipl is , but they would definetly talk about their football team, local hooligan firm, tommy robinson , dinghy invaders and muslims.

That's the reality, cricket isn't followed by the masses in such fervour but only by indians and unfortunately the earth is populated by billions of these. Even in uk cricket was always a game for the toffs , the gentry , the upper middle classes the private school boys and grammar schools it was never a working class man's game where football and rugby league are kings.

The only other cricket game that generates interest is a pakistan vs india clash or the ashes.


But it will definetly sound the death knell of intl cricket and basically render the pcb financially crippled in long run which will more or less cause the collapse of the game in pakistan where interest has waned over the years and you can see the decline .

Cool story bro. This is a 2020 article.

IPL 1-0 EPL – The Indian Premier League more popular than ever in the UK

The Indian Premier League (IPL) has never been more popular in the United Kingdom, with the latest figures from the Broadcasters Audience Research Board (BARB) suggesting the tournament’s viewership has topped even that of some English Premier League (EPL) football matches.

www.wisden.com

IPL 1-0 EPL – The Indian Premier League more popular than ever in the UK​

he Indian Premier League (IPL) has never been more popular in the United Kingdom, with the latest figures from the Broadcasters Audience Research Board (BARB) suggesting the tournament’s viewership has topped even that of some English Premier League (EPL) football matches.
BARB says an average of over 250,000 people have tuned in across the UK to watch the IPL over the last two weeks, and research from Cricket Bet India puts Sky Sports Cricket’s live viewers at 1,797,000 from October 12-18. That’s comfortably more than the figures IPL recorded last year, with the average for 2020 significantly higher than the peak viewership in 2019, of 211,000.

Notably, the figures are better than the English Premier League’s early viewership under their controversial new Pay Per View system – Newcastle United’s home game against Manchester United had just 40,000 viewers.

According to figures released, even the highest-recorded viewers for a PPV EPL match – Liverpool’s game at home to Sheffield United drew in 110,000 and Arsenal’s clash against Leicester City touched 140,000 – were well below the IPL average in the UK.

The IPL is still well off the overall value and popularity of the EPL in UK, but the tournament has an 11 per cent growth rate, according to Cricket Bet India’s study.

 

[U$ofA]

IPL can have 3 month window for all I care. but the real thing is why ICC has to adjust according to a league??
I think we all know the reason for that as well... That is the problem

ICC window is not the only issue. You have all the board handing out NOC's to their players. Why are they doing it? In fact NZC handing out NOC is just a formality. They have an agreement with their players that lets the players prioritize IPL over NZ cricket.

So you have the ICC and all the boards doing all these things. Why is no one questioning this or protesting?

 

[RyanRyan10]

I think you’ll would find, you started going off topic by reminding me to be thankful to BCCI for giving BD test status.

I have a longer response. But since this is a thread about IPL. So let’s leave it there. Alright.

My response wasn't off topic. You were expressing concerns about the BCCI's influence, so I mentioned how the BCCI helped Bangladesh secure FM status. Regardless of their motivations, the fact remains that the BCCI supported BD in becoming a full member. If England and Australia, wanted to promote cricket, they could have advocated for more teams to be granted test status. But historical evidence shows that they had a monopoly on the sport and were reluctant to expand the number of test playing nations.

As far as the IPL is concerned, it has provided benefits to Afghanistan. Even their head coach, Jonathan Trott, has acknowledged this. The BCCI cannot be held responsible for Bangladesh's inability to produce players on par with the skill level of Afghan players. BD fans need to move away from victim mindset and do some introspection.

 

[shah9425]

This window needs to be scrapped permanently so we can watch quality cricket instead of this league

 

[Devadwal]

This window needs to be scrapped permanently so we can watch quality cricket instead of this league

You can arrange more of pakistan vs Bangladesh, Ireland and zimbabwe series. No one stopped PCB or any other boards to arrange the international cricket during This periods.

IPL WILL RULE THE CRICKET YOU LIKE IT OR NOT , IT'S DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL

​

 

[shah9425]

You can arrange more of pakistan vs Bangladesh, Ireland and zimbabwe series. No one stopped PCB or any other boards to arrange the international cricket during This periods.

IPL WILL RULE THE CRICKET YOU LIKE IT OR NOT , IT'S DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL

​

Your opinion doesn't not matter

 

[Devadwal]

Your opinion doesn't not matter

Fact are matter than wishful thinking . My statement is not just opinion but the reality.

 

[shah9425]

Fact are matter than wishful thinking . My statement is not just opinion but the reality.

Nobody watches this league outside this country

 

[Devadwal]

Nobody watches this league outside this country

Hahah next Joke please

 

[mazkhan]

Cool story bro. This is a 2020 article.

IPL 1-0 EPL – The Indian Premier League more popular than ever in the UK

The Indian Premier League (IPL) has never been more popular in the United Kingdom, with the latest figures from the Broadcasters Audience Research Board (BARB) suggesting the tournament’s viewership has topped even that of some English Premier League (EPL) football matches.

www.wisden.com

IPL 1-0 EPL – The Indian Premier League more popular than ever in the UK​

he Indian Premier League (IPL) has never been more popular in the United Kingdom, with the latest figures from the Broadcasters Audience Research Board (BARB) suggesting the tournament’s viewership has topped even that of some English Premier League (EPL) football matches.
BARB says an average of over 250,000 people have tuned in across the UK to watch the IPL over the last two weeks, and research from Cricket Bet India puts Sky Sports Cricket’s live viewers at 1,797,000 from October 12-18. That’s comfortably more than the figures IPL recorded last year, with the average for 2020 significantly higher than the peak viewership in 2019, of 211,000.

Notably, the figures are better than the English Premier League’s early viewership under their controversial new Pay Per View system – Newcastle United’s home game against Manchester United had just 40,000 viewers.

According to figures released, even the highest-recorded viewers for a PPV EPL match – Liverpool’s game at home to Sheffield United drew in 110,000 and Arsenal’s clash against Leicester City touched 140,000 – were well below the IPL average in the UK.

The IPL is still well off the overall value and popularity of the EPL in UK, but the tournament has an 11 per cent growth rate, according to Cricket Bet India’s study.

Did you even read what I said INDIAN EXPAT

Indian expat community you do know there are well over a million indian British citizens
Alongwith work visa and student visa indians whom have flooded every town.

 

[Mockingbird]

This window needs to be scrapped permanently so we can watch quality cricket instead of this league

IPL has more quality and credibility than a lot of meaningless bilaterals.