A lasting solution is not beyond anyone's comprehension.
Are you saying Hezbollah (backed by Iran) played no role in the conflict before Israel turned up out of the blue and killed Haniyeh and Shukr.
www.bbc.com
That's a long, long debate.
www.newsweek.com
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It'll be a balanced approach as the Iranians have a lot to loose if things go wrong. Plus it's a newly elected leadership and their first priority might be to get rid of the wretched sanctions that's strangling their economy.
As i have said before - iran is all talk and no action. They are in shape to get in a war with Israel and the ayotollahs know it - they just gove these stupid bombastic statements we will wipe Israel off blah blah blah and then do absolutely nothing. A bunch of loud mouthed losers they are thats all - these are the iranian leaders not the iranian public..
When their supreme leader was frisked to an undisclosed secure location in his own country, in his own city due to the fear of Israel, it shows where Iran stands.
The regime is weakening with each passing day of the war. People will rise up against the Tyranny of their overlords. Its only a matter of time. Israel will be remembered as the liberators of Persians.
Well 'Persians' support israel
The criminal regime of Iran is shaking in fear. There proxy war has backfired spectacularly on there face. Act in way lol.. Empty words.
Jon Stewart questioned this as well, but it does seem weird that USA destroyed every enemy of Iran except Israel.
I am sure Iran will give a befitting response to Israel once they come out of their bunkers. Until then, its crickets.
Getting back to Israel - about 10% of its defense expenditure comes from the US. Rest is from their gdp. One of the highest per capita defense spending country ( fyi qatar is number 1) . So what Regional power are you talking about? Iran is 10 times or more bigger than Israel with much more resources. Saudi is one of the biggest arms buyers from US. War crimes?? Again as i said above - the biggest war crimes recently were committed by saudi in Syria/ yemen, syrias assad, china on uyghurs..
Hamas kidnapping and having hostages are war crimes as well. Blowing up innocents in suicide bombings are crimes as well. So my question is- so much bloodshed- why dont they come to the negotiating table??? Is it ego? No ego here - u are killing innocents. Iran is all talk and no action. Pretty much limp at the knees. Regional power?? Yeah if by regional.powert you mean giving bombastic statements only then sure no issues there
How big is Israel’s military and how much funding does it get from the US?
Israel has one of the world’s most powerful militaries, bolstered by more than $3.8bn of military aid a year from the USwww.aljazeera.com
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..the point i was making was dont make it a islamic victim card.
Better than Hamas Hezbollah saying they will wipe out Israel and jews off the map i guess.Naziyahoo saying to Persians that they will get freedom and rivers of milk and honey. Courtesy of him
lol called it
Israel will be very benevolent to them, much more than they are to those whose land they usurpedBetter than Hamas Hezbollah saying they will wipe out Israel and jews off the map i guess.
Yeah the land of the losers who rejected a 2 state solution and risked everything by going to war and losing very comprehensively and cry victim victim all the time
www.politico.eu
I hope Israel and Saudis indeed bring new levels of prosperity peace and freedom to Middle East.This is the ground reality :::
Target Iran: Israel seizes its moment to reshape the Middle East
Prime Minister Netanyahu warns Iran’s clerics their days are numbered and boasts there is “nowhere” Israel cannot target.
Israel sends troops into Lebanon — but its real target is Iran
With attack on Hezbollah, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is seeking to decisively reshape the Middle East.
Source - Politico
September 30, 2024 8:45 pm CET
By Jamie Dettmer
TEL AVIV — Israel’s leaders believe they now have a once-in-a-generation opportunity to reshape the Middle East, one that goes well beyond pulverizing Hamas and Hezbollah.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu made clear on Monday that his ultimate target in the regional power shift is to undermine the authority of Tehran’s clerical leadership, defanging the Iranians who are the bankrollers, trainers and supposed protectors of both Hamas in Gaza and the Lebanese Shi’ite militia Hezbollah.
In an address in English, Netanyahu promised the “noble Persian people” that the day when they were free of rule by “tyrants” and could have peace with Israel would come “a lot sooner than people think.”
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“There is nowhere in the Middle East Israel cannot reach,” he warned ominously.
For Iran, that will not sound like idle posturing. Israel is not just fighting Tehran by smashing its allies and proxies — such as Hezbollah and the Houthis in Yemen — but is showing its supremacy both in terms of technology and espionage on Iranian soil.
In April, unscathed by a massive Iranian missile barrage, Israel hit back by blowing up an air defense radar near the central city of Isfahan, in what was widely seen as a warning that it could take out Iranian nuclear facilities at will. In July, Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh was murdered by a rocket, fired into a government guesthouse in Tehran. Top Iranian commanders have died in strikes on Damascus and Beirut. Netanyahu’s messaging about Israel’s “reach” is clear, limiting Iran’s room for maneuver.
For Tehran’s leadership, this is an excruciating challenge. Iran projects power across the region by styling itself as the military heavyweight that can support its loyal proxy militias across Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Yemen. Israel is now directly challenging that authority, with Friday’s bunker-busting assassination of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah being the most flagrant example of Netanyahu throwing down the gauntlet to Tehran.
Ground offensive in Lebanon
Israel surely won’t stop there.
There is no sign Netanyahu is going to call it a day after scything through Hezbollah’s entire top command structure. Indeed, all the signs are Israeli defenses forces are poised to launch a ground assault in southern Lebanon, with Israeli defense minister Yoav Gallant telling soldiers deployed in northern Israel that the next phase of the war against Hezbollah is set to begin. Reservists are also being called up and directed north.
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Blowing through growing international calls for a ceasefire, Netanyahu will intensify the offensive on Hezbollah, says a senior Israeli official who spoke to POLITICO on condition of anonymity. That will likely include launching a major ground assault aimed at smashing Hezbollah in southern Lebanon, forcing it to withdraw its forces north of the Litani River, 29 kilometers from the Israeli-Lebanese border, in accordance with a UN resolution that concluded the 2006 Lebanon war.
Israel will also continue to pound Hezbollah’s weapons depots, logistics and command hubs further north and in the Beqaa Valley, while continuing to send out its hunt-and-kill missions for senior commanders. “This is our chance to break Hezbollah so it can never recover and wield the power it has in Lebanon,” the official said.
Netanyahu’s once electorally fatal opinion poll numbers are rising since Nasrallah’s assassination, meaning there’s every political inducement for him to prolong the offensive and ignore repeated ceasefire calls from Western allies and aid groups, who fear a humanitarian crisis worsening in Lebanon.
There is no sign Netanyahu is going to call it a day after scything through Hezbollah’s entire top command structure. | Stephanie Keith/Getty Images
Visiting Israeli troops deployed in northern Israel on Monday, Gallant, strongly hinted a ground offensive against Hezbollah would be ordered soon. Israeli special forces have already been conducting raids across the border.
“The elimination of Nasrallah is a very important step, but it is not the final one,” Gallant told troops serving with the army’s Golani Brigade. “We will employ all the capabilities at our disposal, and if someone on the other side did not understand what those capabilities entail, we mean all capabilities.”
U.S. officials believe any Israeli incursion will be limited, targeted and not as extensive as 2006, which triggered a short but fierce war that hurt both sides. But there remain fears in Washington of an Iranian attack against Israel, prompting some U.S. forces being moved “to defer and defend as necessary.” And there are worries of Israeli overreach.
Late on Monday, there were Israeli media reports that there had been an increase in Israel’s artillery bombardments along the border and that Lebanese army forces had withdrawn units that could be caught up in any fighting.
The U.S. said it was being kept abreast of operations. “They have been informing us about a number of operations, I know I’ve seen reports about ground operations. We’ve had some conversations with them about that,” a U.S. State Department spokesperson told reporters in a briefing Monday. “But we’re in continuous conversations with them about it,” Matthew Miller, the spokesperson, said.
Beginning of the end for Iran’s Axis
But the rhetoric being used by Israeli leaders doesn’t seem to match the more limited remarks of U.S. officials. And it isn’t only domestic political logic driving Netanyahu — but military rationale, too. “The military incentives for Israel are to continue,” observed Matthew Savill of Britain’s Royal United Services Institute, a think tank.
“It has destroyed Hizbollah’s senior leadership, compromised its ability to coordinate and has the initiative. In spite of the risks a ground incursion would face, the long-range threat from ballistic missiles, and the stretched nature of current IDF operations, it is possible to imagine that many would argue there will never be a better time to go into southern Lebanon to destroy Hizbollah’s military infrastructure there,” he added.
Israeli officials are talking in much more ambitious terms than the more limited war aim of making Hezbollah stop its months-long cross-border rocket attacks to allow around 80,000 Israeli evacuees to return to their northern homes.
Outside the current ranks of the government, several senior and still influential former intelligence and security chiefs, including former Mossad head Tamir Pardo, are publicly urging the military campaign to be sustained to redraw the Middle East.
Speaking to the Israeli media including Haaretz, Pardo said the blows Israeli dealt Hezbollah the past 12 days have presented Israeli with “an opportunity that must not be missed.”
Tehran’s most important regional ally is unlikely to recover to control Lebanon to the extent it has since the 2006 war with Israel, he added. “In my humble opinion, there is no way they can rehabilitate it to what it was before,” he says.
The extraordinary damage the IDF has inflicted on Hezbollah has indeed left the organization reeling. The list of top Hezbollah commanders killed in the past fortnight reads like a Who’s Who of Shi’ite militants and is being added to daily.
“Almost the entirety of the group’s senior leadership, political and military, along with thousands of members and mid-level commanders, has been assassinated, eliminated, or rendered combat-ineffective — not to mention that the Israel Defense Forces have destroyed large quantities of strategic munitions that could have threatened Israeli cities and targets,” said Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib, an analyst at the Atlantic Council.
“The region might be witnessing the beginning of the end of Iran’s axis of resistance,” he added.
That outcome wouldn’t displease a broad swathe of Arab leaders, including in the Gulf. Some Gulf media are already heaping blame on Hezbollah for the suffering of the Lebanese. Saudi Arabia’s influential daily newspaper Okaz has accused Hezbollah of acting “for the sake of Iranian interests, not Lebanese or Arab ones.”
Both Hezbollah and Iran are in a bind with few attractive options.
Iran’s new president, Masoud Pezeshkian, has been eager to improve ties with Arab neighbors and has also been making overtures to the West, hinting Tehran is ready to get more serious about nuclear talks. To become directly involved in the conflict risks wrecking that diplomatic outreach. Launching the kind of direct missile assault it did unsuccessfully earlier this year on Israel will expose its weakness in the face of Israeli military superiority, leaving Hezbollah largely on its own and just with rhetorical support from Tehran.
Julien Barnes-Dacey of the European Council on Foreign Relations, however, warned against further Israel escalation and described the idea of creating a new regional order a “dangerous illusion.”
“The Israeli attack marks a significant tactical achievement but remains detached from a viable strategic pathway to sustainably address Israeli security needs and end the series of interlinking regional conflicts,” he argued.
Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, a fierce Netanyahu critic, also told POLITICO it was too early to talk in terms of success. “What if two or three big missiles land in Tel Aviv?” he cautioned.
Erin Banco contributed reporting.
This is the ground reality :::
Target Iran: Israel seizes its moment to reshape the Middle East
Prime Minister Netanyahu warns Iran’s clerics their days are numbered and boasts there is “nowhere” Israel cannot target.
Israel sends troops into Lebanon — but its real target is Iran
With attack on Hezbollah, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is seeking to decisively reshape the Middle East.
Source - Politico
September 30, 2024 8:45 pm CET
By Jamie Dettmer
TEL AVIV — Israel’s leaders believe they now have a once-in-a-generation opportunity to reshape the Middle East, one that goes well beyond pulverizing Hamas and Hezbollah.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu made clear on Monday that his ultimate target in the regional power shift is to undermine the authority of Tehran’s clerical leadership, defanging the Iranians who are the bankrollers, trainers and supposed protectors of both Hamas in Gaza and the Lebanese Shi’ite militia Hezbollah.
In an address in English, Netanyahu promised the “noble Persian people” that the day when they were free of rule by “tyrants” and could have peace with Israel would come “a lot sooner than people think.”
Advertisement
“There is nowhere in the Middle East Israel cannot reach,” he warned ominously.
For Iran, that will not sound like idle posturing. Israel is not just fighting Tehran by smashing its allies and proxies — such as Hezbollah and the Houthis in Yemen — but is showing its supremacy both in terms of technology and espionage on Iranian soil.
In April, unscathed by a massive Iranian missile barrage, Israel hit back by blowing up an air defense radar near the central city of Isfahan, in what was widely seen as a warning that it could take out Iranian nuclear facilities at will. In July, Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh was murdered by a rocket, fired into a government guesthouse in Tehran. Top Iranian commanders have died in strikes on Damascus and Beirut. Netanyahu’s messaging about Israel’s “reach” is clear, limiting Iran’s room for maneuver.
For Tehran’s leadership, this is an excruciating challenge. Iran projects power across the region by styling itself as the military heavyweight that can support its loyal proxy militias across Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Yemen. Israel is now directly challenging that authority, with Friday’s bunker-busting assassination of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah being the most flagrant example of Netanyahu throwing down the gauntlet to Tehran.
Ground offensive in Lebanon
Israel surely won’t stop there.
There is no sign Netanyahu is going to call it a day after scything through Hezbollah’s entire top command structure. Indeed, all the signs are Israeli defenses forces are poised to launch a ground assault in southern Lebanon, with Israeli defense minister Yoav Gallant telling soldiers deployed in northern Israel that the next phase of the war against Hezbollah is set to begin. Reservists are also being called up and directed north.
Advertisement
Advertisement
Blowing through growing international calls for a ceasefire, Netanyahu will intensify the offensive on Hezbollah, says a senior Israeli official who spoke to POLITICO on condition of anonymity. That will likely include launching a major ground assault aimed at smashing Hezbollah in southern Lebanon, forcing it to withdraw its forces north of the Litani River, 29 kilometers from the Israeli-Lebanese border, in accordance with a UN resolution that concluded the 2006 Lebanon war.
Israel will also continue to pound Hezbollah’s weapons depots, logistics and command hubs further north and in the Beqaa Valley, while continuing to send out its hunt-and-kill missions for senior commanders. “This is our chance to break Hezbollah so it can never recover and wield the power it has in Lebanon,” the official said.
Netanyahu’s once electorally fatal opinion poll numbers are rising since Nasrallah’s assassination, meaning there’s every political inducement for him to prolong the offensive and ignore repeated ceasefire calls from Western allies and aid groups, who fear a humanitarian crisis worsening in Lebanon.
There is no sign Netanyahu is going to call it a day after scything through Hezbollah’s entire top command structure. | Stephanie Keith/Getty Images
Visiting Israeli troops deployed in northern Israel on Monday, Gallant, strongly hinted a ground offensive against Hezbollah would be ordered soon. Israeli special forces have already been conducting raids across the border.
“The elimination of Nasrallah is a very important step, but it is not the final one,” Gallant told troops serving with the army’s Golani Brigade. “We will employ all the capabilities at our disposal, and if someone on the other side did not understand what those capabilities entail, we mean all capabilities.”
U.S. officials believe any Israeli incursion will be limited, targeted and not as extensive as 2006, which triggered a short but fierce war that hurt both sides. But there remain fears in Washington of an Iranian attack against Israel, prompting some U.S. forces being moved “to defer and defend as necessary.” And there are worries of Israeli overreach.
Late on Monday, there were Israeli media reports that there had been an increase in Israel’s artillery bombardments along the border and that Lebanese army forces had withdrawn units that could be caught up in any fighting.
The U.S. said it was being kept abreast of operations. “They have been informing us about a number of operations, I know I’ve seen reports about ground operations. We’ve had some conversations with them about that,” a U.S. State Department spokesperson told reporters in a briefing Monday. “But we’re in continuous conversations with them about it,” Matthew Miller, the spokesperson, said.
Beginning of the end for Iran’s Axis
But the rhetoric being used by Israeli leaders doesn’t seem to match the more limited remarks of U.S. officials. And it isn’t only domestic political logic driving Netanyahu — but military rationale, too. “The military incentives for Israel are to continue,” observed Matthew Savill of Britain’s Royal United Services Institute, a think tank.
“It has destroyed Hizbollah’s senior leadership, compromised its ability to coordinate and has the initiative. In spite of the risks a ground incursion would face, the long-range threat from ballistic missiles, and the stretched nature of current IDF operations, it is possible to imagine that many would argue there will never be a better time to go into southern Lebanon to destroy Hizbollah’s military infrastructure there,” he added.
Israeli officials are talking in much more ambitious terms than the more limited war aim of making Hezbollah stop its months-long cross-border rocket attacks to allow around 80,000 Israeli evacuees to return to their northern homes.
Outside the current ranks of the government, several senior and still influential former intelligence and security chiefs, including former Mossad head Tamir Pardo, are publicly urging the military campaign to be sustained to redraw the Middle East.
Speaking to the Israeli media including Haaretz, Pardo said the blows Israeli dealt Hezbollah the past 12 days have presented Israeli with “an opportunity that must not be missed.”
Tehran’s most important regional ally is unlikely to recover to control Lebanon to the extent it has since the 2006 war with Israel, he added. “In my humble opinion, there is no way they can rehabilitate it to what it was before,” he says.
The extraordinary damage the IDF has inflicted on Hezbollah has indeed left the organization reeling. The list of top Hezbollah commanders killed in the past fortnight reads like a Who’s Who of Shi’ite militants and is being added to daily.
“Almost the entirety of the group’s senior leadership, political and military, along with thousands of members and mid-level commanders, has been assassinated, eliminated, or rendered combat-ineffective — not to mention that the Israel Defense Forces have destroyed large quantities of strategic munitions that could have threatened Israeli cities and targets,” said Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib, an analyst at the Atlantic Council.
“The region might be witnessing the beginning of the end of Iran’s axis of resistance,” he added.
That outcome wouldn’t displease a broad swathe of Arab leaders, including in the Gulf. Some Gulf media are already heaping blame on Hezbollah for the suffering of the Lebanese. Saudi Arabia’s influential daily newspaper Okaz has accused Hezbollah of acting “for the sake of Iranian interests, not Lebanese or Arab ones.”
Both Hezbollah and Iran are in a bind with few attractive options.
Iran’s new president, Masoud Pezeshkian, has been eager to improve ties with Arab neighbors and has also been making overtures to the West, hinting Tehran is ready to get more serious about nuclear talks. To become directly involved in the conflict risks wrecking that diplomatic outreach. Launching the kind of direct missile assault it did unsuccessfully earlier this year on Israel will expose its weakness in the face of Israeli military superiority, leaving Hezbollah largely on its own and just with rhetorical support from Tehran.
Julien Barnes-Dacey of the European Council on Foreign Relations, however, warned against further Israel escalation and described the idea of creating a new regional order a “dangerous illusion.”
“The Israeli attack marks a significant tactical achievement but remains detached from a viable strategic pathway to sustainably address Israeli security needs and end the series of interlinking regional conflicts,” he argued.
Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, a fierce Netanyahu critic, also told POLITICO it was too early to talk in terms of success. “What if two or three big missiles land in Tel Aviv?” he cautioned.
Erin Banco contributed reporting.
It takes time.
True but they some what have some capability compared to other Islamic nations though. Saudi has money to throw around, Iran is a mix of military strength - some what of a middle of road economy and some stature.
Dirty racist rancid colonists threatening the noble Persian people.
A war is an atrocity. Innocents always die in wars. Gone are the days where rival armies used to meet in battle grounds to fight it out. Even then, the victor used to take slaves out of people including women and children from rival camp.
Can you point me to a war where innocents did not die or suffer?
The US has deployed warships incase there is a broader regional conflict say Iran goes after Aaudi etx or if other countries join Iran to go against Israel or if there's any nuclear threat if any from Iran. A precautionary measure. Standard wartime protocol.
Am not a fan as well of US getting involved in foreign conflicts. And that's why I think Trump was good 2016-2019. Not the 2020 insurrection trump. Trump was the only US president who didn't start a war in a looooong time. He met jim kong, putin etc. He knew wars drain economy and his ratings.. All other US presidents doesn't matter Democrats and Republicans have been trigger happy. Ukraine war should never ever have happened.
You said wars and atrocities are not the same thing. If they are not the same thing, then there should be a war where innocents did not suffer. So I was asking you if you know any war where innocents did not die or suffer.
