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Iranian Chabahar Port India willing to spend $20 Billion

Yeah they are well on the way to owning Pak Occupied Kashmir it seems with all the roads and highways and whatever else they are doing there.. Sorry Ching Chong but you aint gonna get Indian Kashmir :P

Buying POK is different story but here China eyeing main areas of Pakistan :))
 
What are you blabbering man? India wants to build SEZ so it benefits Indian companies [Private or Govt.]

Gas field is discovered by Indian companies some time ago now negotiating with Iran...

Why you guys so desperate?

Then why is Iran having to
Arm twist you. First on farzad b gas field they threatened to put it on tender, and similarly with chabahar with no money coming forward.

If India is serious, Show them the money and just do it!!
 
Then why is Iran having to
Arm twist you. First on farzad b gas field they threatened to put it on tender, and similarly with chabahar with no money coming forward.

If India is serious, Show them the money and just do it!!

It's happening right now..why do you think Indian petroleum minister visited last week? did Iran came to you and said they are not getting money?
 
Look who's talking.

The very mention of pakistan and china working together sends shivers down indias spine.

LMAO...

You are not working together , you are working for China....lol you take China's handouts and term it as working together :)))
 
Look who's talking.

The very mention of pakistan and china working together sends shivers down indias spine.

LOL you think you are equal to china? :)) China is using you and you are being used, China and India are the regional powers, don't you feel ashamed that you have to depend on china for everything? China is your godfather
 
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Look who's talking.

The very mention of pakistan and china working together sends shivers down indias spine.
Lol.We have seen enough of such kind of Pakistan working together.

In 1960s it was to be America.Come the war they vanished.

1970 it was to be the middle east turning the Oil taps off for India.Pakistan got divided oil kept flowing.

Now the new fad is China.

Talk about Pakistan and not xyz country.No one is going to go to war for you.LOL.
 
Then why is Iran having to
Arm twist you. First on farzad b gas field they threatened to put it on tender, and similarly with chabahar with no money coming forward.

If India is serious, Show them the money and just do it!!
If India doesnt invest in Chabahar it is Irans issue.If India doesnt get gas from farzan fields it is India's issue why are Pakistanis gettimg so agitated.Why are they so concerned about the economics working or not working for India.

Let India and Iran work it out.Pakistanis should be concerned about the issues that CPEC is facing.

If nothing works 20bn USD is peanuts to get strategic hold in Afghanistan.
 
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]

Why get so emotional. It's only a discussion.

So is tapi pipeline dead?

Explain why modi has given go ahead for it. Moreover, Pakistan will have stranglehold and get transit fee for which you said India cannot fathom.

There is discrepancy in what you say and what the Indian government is doing.
 
It's happening right now..why do you think Indian petroleum minister visited last week? did Iran came to you and said they are not getting money?

It's yet another MOU, which happened this time last year as well. Iranians want to see India get the money out and get cracking with it.
 
It's yet another MOU, which happened this time last year as well. Iranians want to see India get the money out and get cracking with it.

Show me the latest source where Iranians complaining....You have to understand one thing unlike Palistan getting handouts from other countries this is a partnership project,both sides need to equally benefited.
 
[MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]

Why get so emotional. It's only a discussion.

So is tapi pipeline dead?

Explain why modi has given go ahead for it. Moreover, Pakistan will have stranglehold and get transit fee for which you said India cannot fathom.

There is discrepancy in what you say and what the Indian government is doing.

India also gave go ahead to IPI and then said we dont agree with Pakistan on Transit fee and Guarantees and hence withdrew.Now Iran and India are building a underwater pipeline.

Same is the case here.TAPI was mooted in 1995 by US and India said it will participate because without a Market like India the pipeline is useless.Yet till this date India hasnt agreed on a transit fee or security guarantee with even Afghanistan let alone Pakistan.

The only way TAPI will happen is if US becomes the operator and guarantor of the project.This is why India is playing the waiting game.
 
Show me the latest source where Iranians complaining....You have to understand one thing unlike Palistan getting handouts from other countries this is a partnership project,both sides need to equally benefited.


http://217.218.67.231/Detail/2015/10/28/435379/Indias-time-for-Chabahar-choice-over


They are even touting China to come along for chabahar.

http://217.218.67.231/Detail/2015/10/08/432508/Iran-wants-China-in-Chabahar-development

Yet another empty gesture of an MOU is not going to cut it time and again.

Press tv is Iranian governments mouthpiece by the way.
 
India is developing the port.Even those reports say Iran is asking China for steel.or other projects not the Port.LOL.

These guys can't find any latest news and use some old news when Iran sanctions still on.

That CPEC report by DAWN is funny...Pakistan even defends on China to build hospitals :)))
 
http://217.218.67.231/Detail/2015/10/28/435379/Indias-time-for-Chabahar-choice-over


They are even touting China to come along for chabahar.

http://217.218.67.231/Detail/2015/10/08/432508/Iran-wants-China-in-Chabahar-development

Yet another empty gesture of an MOU is not going to cut it time and again.

Press tv is Iranian governments mouthpiece by the way.

:)) You need to update your information, if you keep reading outdated news articles then you will keep embarrassing yourself in this discussion, the Indian govt. approved the chabahar investment on Feb 25 2016, have you got any articles after that date from Iranian media :yk2
 
Don't know how many times one has to say this. India is stalling.

This time last year they signed a MOU for investment which was meant to be concluded by October 2015. Deadline went by and nothing was finalised, not even a draft. Iranians got upset and start making noises, which is there in the articles. India is in a conundrum as to how to back out of it.

If India is serious, finalise the agreements and get on with it. Not just keep promising to spend x amount by yet another MOU and then 6 months or year down the line snag on that.
 
India also gave go ahead to IPI and then said we dont agree with Pakistan on Transit fee and Guarantees and hence withdrew.Now Iran and India are building a underwater pipeline.

Same is the case here.TAPI was mooted in 1995 by US and India said it will participate because without a Market like India the pipeline is useless.Yet till this date India hasnt agreed on a transit fee or security guarantee with even Afghanistan let alone Pakistan.

The only way TAPI will happen is if US becomes the operator and guarantor of the project.This is why India is playing the waiting game.

They are not building an under water pipeline, it's just yet another of those empty grandstanding thing India does.
Tell me if anything is finalised or is it another MOU!

So tapi is not dead. You had the wrong then.
 
They are not building an under water pipeline, it's just yet another of those empty grandstanding thing India does.
Tell me if anything is finalised or is it another MOU!

So tapi is not dead. You had the wrong then.

Still you are not showing source for latest information from Iran...
 
They are not building an under water pipeline, it's just yet another of those empty grandstanding thing India does.
Tell me if anything is finalised or is it another MOU!

So tapi is not dead. You had the wrong then.
They are not building Chabahar.They are not building underwater pipeline only if the wishes of Pakistanis would decide what happens to India.LOL.

TAPI is as alive as IPI was.
 
why are the indians threatened so much from cpec? few years ago chinese had concrete evidence that india was playing dangerous role in destabilising Bolochistan and the chinese border with pakistan.

Recently the indian RAW agent which was caught in Bolochistan stated he was sent to cause havoc in the Gwadar port.

India you playing these dirty tactics eventually others will do the same then you will be running to UN like cry babies.
 
why are the indians threatened so much from cpec? few years ago chinese had concrete evidence that india was playing dangerous role in destabilising Bolochistan and the chinese border with pakistan.

Recently the indian RAW agent which was caught in Bolochistan stated he was sent to cause havoc in the Gwadar port.

India you playing these dirty tactics eventually others will do the same then you will be running to UN like cry babies.

Why don't you go to UN like cry babies? :yk2 Because you don't have any proof against India
 
First it was Uncle Sam who would take Pakistan to new heights, then it was Uncle Saud, now its Uncle Cheeen.

Its classic game theory and strategy- all major powers know that in a regional rivalry, the weaker country will be that much more desperate for outside support and can be milked to give much better returns if given some support. Uncle Sam used Pk and Afg to weaken the USSR, too bad for PK if left with millions of refugees and awash with gun and jihad culture. Uncle Saud uses Pk as a nuclear insurance policy and a houbara hunting sanctuary. Too bad for Pk if wahhabi madrassahs are brainwashing illiterate masses with false hate and prejudice, that's PK problem not House of Saud. Now Uncle Cheen wants to use Pk as a trade highway truck stop.

Sooner Pakistan realizes that these uncles make false promises and molest away their futures, better it is for their independence and development.

Its funny, maybe its in the subcontinent's destiny to always have brothers fighting to their doom. Pandavas and Kauravas in the Mahabharata have eerie parallels today with India and Pakistan. In the end, when brothers fight, its the family that loses out.
 
http://www.dawn.com/news/1260176/iran-india-afghanistan-sign-transit-accord-on-chabahar-port

TEHRAN: Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Afghan President Ashraf Ghani on Monday signed a three-way transit agreement on Iran's southern port of Chabahar.

India said it will invest up to $500 million in a deal to develop a strategic port in Iran and both countries planned a number of projects they say are worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

“Today is an important and historical day of development of relations between the three countries,” Rouhani said in a televised speech, seated between the two other leaders.

“From Tehran, New Delhi and Kabul, this is a crucial message ... that the path to progress for regional countries goes through joint cooperation and utilising regional opportunities."

Modi said: “We want to link to the world, but connectivity among ourselves is also a priority.”

“Our will starts from Chabahar today, but its end will be an all-out comprehensive development and economic-cultural cooperation,” said Ghani.

The deal and plans were announced during a visit by Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, the first such trip in more than a decade.

In a ceremony marking the agreements, Modi said the bilateral agreement to develop Chabahar, in southern Iran, and the “availability of about $500 million from India for this purpose is an important milestone,” in relations between the two countries.

The development of the port of Chabahar expands a trade route for the land-locked countries of central Asia that bypasses Pakistan.
 
Chabahar project rolling full steam forward. "Eagle eye" was a bit blinded by his biases looks like.:mv

If and when, proper rail links are built up as the Indian Govt is promising, then Afghanistan will get a full-fledged alternate trade route and its dependency on Pakistan is finito. Looks like Pakistan's refusal to allow road trade links between India and Afghanistan just blew up in its face. Instead if they had allowed trade to go through Pakistan, they could have made money off it and also employed some measure of control over it. But anything related to India, and our cross-border brothers can be counted to act with irrational foolishness rather than foresight and brains. No problem, keep cutting your own nose to spite your face, while the rest of the world passes by on the march to progress. Good luck with those CPEC truck stops, maybe the Chinese will tip well on cleaning those windshields.
 
Chabahar project rolling full steam forward. "Eagle eye" was a bit blinded by his biases looks like.:mv

If and when, proper rail links are built up as the Indian Govt is promising, then Afghanistan will get a full-fledged alternate trade route and its dependency on Pakistan is finito. Looks like Pakistan's refusal to allow road trade links between India and Afghanistan just blew up in its face. Instead if they had allowed trade to go through Pakistan, they could have made money off it and also employed some measure of control over it. But anything related to India, and our cross-border brothers can be counted to act with irrational foolishness rather than foresight and brains. No problem, keep cutting your own nose to spite your face, while the rest of the world passes by on the march to progress. Good luck with those CPEC truck stops, maybe the Chinese will tip well on cleaning those windshields.

Do you realise that this trip was planned long ago? Ofcourse more promises and more promises. give it 5 more months and see how much progress has been made.

India also signed upto TAPI, which means going through Pakistan.

These are all empty gestures. He probably spent most of the time trying to convince Iranians that we are very sorry we abandoned you and voted against you at the UN and tagged you along for chabahar for so long and milked you during the sanction period. can you please give us some space to clear the money we owe you in US dollars or Euros.
 
Actually a payment of $700 million on the total $9 billion owed for oil sales was made. If India and Iran are sensible, Iran would request the remaining payment in the form of investment spending such as this port, whereas if Indians are smart, they would want to turn the payment of the debt into an opportunity.
 
Do you realise that this trip was planned long ago? Ofcourse more promises and more promises. give it 5 more months and see how much progress has been made.

India also signed upto TAPI, which means going through Pakistan.

These are all empty gestures. He probably spent most of the time trying to convince Iranians that we are very sorry we abandoned you and voted against you at the UN and tagged you along for chabahar for so long and milked you during the sanction period. can you please give us some space to clear the money we owe you in US dollars or Euros.

Might want to google India's currency reserves. ;). The balance of payments was because Iran's bank accounts were frozen due to sanction, had nothing to do with India's willingness or ability to pay. But sure, continue living in delusion. And yeah, Definitely, let's see where things are at in 5 months. India wanted to build the Delaram Zaranj highway - its done. Afghan Parliament building? done. Just wait and watch. Biggest thing in favor of Chabahar is that it is in Afghanistan and Iran's self interest to see that project succeed. Its not dependent on Khairat from Uncle Cheen. You don't seem to understand how country-to-country projects progress at their own pace. But that's fine, haathi chale bazaar, kutte bhowke hazaar
 
Actually a payment of $700 million on the total $9 billion owed for oil sales was made. If India and Iran are sensible, Iran would request the remaining payment in the form of investment spending such as this port, whereas if Indians are smart, they would want to turn the payment of the debt into an opportunity.

Iran is capable of building it themselves, don't need India anymore.

They were hampered previously in getting stuff from overseas which is what the Indians were suppose to do for them, but it never materialised and they were tagged along and milked by India.

Their own companies will build everything, they want the money.
 
Iran is capable of building it themselves, don't need India anymore.

They were hampered previously in getting stuff from overseas which is what the Indians were suppose to do for them, but it never materialised and they were tagged along and milked by India.

Their own companies will build everything, they want the money.

LOL. You should write scripts for TV soaps. Or maybe those "news" shows on Pak Tv.
 
First it was Uncle Sam who would take Pakistan to new heights, then it was Uncle Saud, now its Uncle Cheeen.

Its not dependent on Khairat from Uncle Cheen.

I am pretty sure India received the most economic aid from Uncle Sam in the last 60 years or so (more than Pakistan, Israel, Egypt, etc..).

So when Pakistan receives aid it is "khairat" and when India receives aid it isnt?

Call Pakistan backwards, when your country faces much of the same issues.

You can go ahead and think your country is Sweden or Canada, but in reality it is just India.

Its laughable how Indians look down on Pakistanis for issues like women's rights, when we all know how women are treated in public in India.

Its laughable how Indians think Pakistan is poor, yet 600+ million Indians defecate out in the open.

Listen bud, Pakistan is not first world, neither is India. Stop with your condescending comments in a Pakistani forum.
 
I am pretty sure India received the most economic aid from Uncle Sam in the last 60 years or so (more than Pakistan, Israel, Egypt, etc..).

So when Pakistan receives aid it is "khairat" and when India receives aid it isnt?

Call Pakistan backwards, when your country faces much of the same issues.

You can go ahead and think your country is Sweden or Canada, but in reality it is just India.

Its laughable how Indians look down on Pakistanis for issues like women's rights, when we all know how women are treated in public in India.

Its laughable how Indians think Pakistan is poor, yet 600+ million Indians defecate out in the open.

Listen bud, Pakistan is not first world, neither is India. Stop with your condescending comments in a Pakistani forum.

Easiest way to feel superior is to put down someone else. Quite an insecure bunch these Indian internet warriors..
 
Would it be wrong to say that Indians are living in the best period in their history? Global respect for India as a country and Indians as people. The movers and shakers of the world.
 
What makes the Chabahar deal hot


Prime Minister Modi's Iran visit led to the much-awaited signing of the Chabahar deal between Iran, India and Afghanistan. Developing the port will be a major breakthrough for India's trade relations with West Asia. Here is why the Chabahar deal will be game-changer for India:



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Why is the deal important?



Gives India strategic heft in region; helps it bypass Pakistan & build closer ties with Iran and Afghanistan.



Closer ties with Iran will allow Delhi to secure cheaper energy imports.


Offsets China’s growing infl uence and reach in the region. China is heavily invested in developing Gwadar Port in Pakistan, of equal signifi cance, some 100-odd km west of Chabahar as the crow flies.





Chabahar Port route helps connect India with energy-rich Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan & other central Asian nations


This route is 40% shorter, 30% less expensive than trade via the Red Sea-Suez CanalMediterranean route
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Run-up to the deal

In 2009, India built a 218 km long (@$100m) link road from Delaram in western Afghanistan to Zaranj on the Iran-Afghan border to link up with Chabahar port.



Zaranj-Delaram highway connects with the 2,200 km two-lane metalled road network, known as the Garland Road that connects major cities in the country

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3.

Why Chabahar is crucial



Sits at mouth of Strait of Hormuz area

Connects three regions: Central Asia, South Asia and West Asia

Junction of shipping, oil trade routes

About 100,000 ships sail by yearly

Region holds two-thirds world oil reserves; estimated 17 billion barrels of crude oil passes this way daily
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4.

What it mean for Afghanistan

Unhindered access to the Indian Ocean


India-built highway will link country to Chabahar port, further trade


Afghanistan hopes to exploit $1trillion of untapped mineral wealth to earn revenue

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5.

What India may invest in Chabahar

India will invest $85 million to build a container terminal & a multi-purpose cargo terminal


On May 6, 2015, Union minister Nitin Gadkari signed MoU with Iran to complete this by Dec 2016


Iran wants Chabahar to be the third major hub for its petrochemical industries


Indian private & public sector entities projected investment worth $22 billion in the free trade zone area


Chemicals, petrochem, steel, fertilizer are major sectors, besides Indian railways likely to invest


India was offered the project to develop Chabahar port in 2003 by Iran, intended to be a critical access-point to land-locked Afghanistan


For Afghanistan, an operational Chabahar route was a better alternative. It would reduce its dependence on Pakistan — the sole nation providing it access to the sea


Pakistan has been reluctant to allow Indian goods to pass overland through its territory


The project did not take off over US sanctions against Iran, but India has gone ahead now following lifting of the sanctions..


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/What-makes-the-Chabahar-deal-hot/listshow/52428109.cms?


This India, Iran & Afgan alliance looks very good for the future :angel:
 
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I am pretty sure India received the most economic aid from Uncle Sam in the last 60 years or so (more than Pakistan, Israel, Egypt, etc..).

So when Pakistan receives aid it is "khairat" and when India receives aid it isnt?

Call Pakistan backwards, when your country faces much of the same issues.

You can go ahead and think your country is Sweden or Canada, but in reality it is just India.

Its laughable how Indians look down on Pakistanis for issues like women's rights, when we all know how women are treated in public in India.

Its laughable how Indians think Pakistan is poor, yet 600+ million Indians defecate out in the open.

Listen bud, Pakistan is not first world, neither is India. Stop with your condescending comments in a Pakistani forum.

Dude, don't mean to put down any country or anyone, but when some posters talk utter nonsense, one should have the right to respond, even if not Pakistani. And I was just pointing out that all the hoopla around "CPEC" is not really going to change the economic picture in Pakistan unless the overall policies and priorities are changed. Because there are no messiahs or other countries who lift up other nations, every country is out for its own interest. Thats all.

And India has a TON of problems, not shying away from that, but thank God/Allah/XYZ that at least the priority and focus is on the right things, even if execution and implementation are far from good.

I honestly dont care about putting down Pakistan, but neither will I shy away from holding up the mirror in order to make a point or respond. Sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings, not the intent.
 
Here's What Narendra Modi's Trip to Tehran Means for India, Iran and Afghanistan

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Here's What Narendra Modi's Trip to Tehran Means for India, Iran and Afghanistan
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President of Afghanistan Ashraf Ghani (R), Prime Minister of India Narendra Modi (L) and President of Iran Hassan Rouhani (C) shake hands after they signed Chabahar transit agreement in Tehran, Iran on May 23, 2016. (Photo by Pool / Iran Presidency/Anadolu Agency/Getty Images)

This has been the week of Asian pivots, where world leaders bury old animosities with state visits—and get to sign big business deals while they are doing so.

No, we are not talking about President Obama’s historic visit to Hanoi, where he announced the U.S. is ending the 41-year U.S. arms embargo against Vietnam, and also oversaw new business deals worth about $16 billion.

Instead, in a more fraught part of the continent, three leaders—Iran’s President Hassan Rouhani, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, and Afghan President Ashraf Ghani—signed a flurry of deals in Tehran on Monday, aimed at reworking political obstacles that have hobbled the region’s economies through years of war and economic boycotts.

In the most important deal by far, Modi announced in Tehran on Monday that India would invest about $500 million building two terminals and five cargo berths at the Iranian seaport of Chabahar.

To Iran, the facility has long been an underused, underfunded resource that has languished through years of U.N. and Western sanctions. To India, it is a lot more: A precious sea outlet that bypasses its arch rival, Pakistan.

On Monday Rouhani said India’s relationship with Iran “starts with Chabahar today, but its end will be an all-out comprehensive development, and economic, cultural cooperation.”

This might sound disconnected from the nuclear deal the U.S. and Europe signed with Iran last July, after years of negotiations. But it is hardly unrelated.

Under the deal Iran is now free to export its most precious resource—its mammoth oil and gas reserves. And since most Western sanctions against Iran ended in January, Rouhani’s government has raced to boost its oil production, frantically trying to turn around its sanctions-hit economy. On Tuesday the International Energy Agency said Iran had pumped 3.6 million barrels of oil a day in April—a level it had last hit in 2011, before U.N. sanctions banned much of its output from world markets. Iran has vowed to defy production cuts proposed by OPEC members, arguing that after years of embargoes, it should be exempt from any such agreements.

That is good news to India—Iran’s biggest customer for its energy exports, after China—which needs a reliable flow of oil.

To Iranians, India appears to be as ideal a partner as they can hope for at the moment.

“It is one of the fastest growing countries and economies in the world at the moment, and we have no political problems, no dispute with them at all,” Saeed Laylaz, an Iranian political analyst and auto-industry executive, tells Fortune. “That situation is very rare at the moment in the world.”

U.S. sanctions remain in place, on the grounds that Iran violates human rights and supports terrorism. Hence, no Western banks have dared open for business in Iran, for fear of running foul of U.S. regulations. That has hampered big Western projects, and financial transactions with Iran remain hugely complicated.


India faces few such limitations, however. On Monday Indian officials said the country would pay back its $6.5 billion it owed to Iran, for oil imports, by using Turkey’s Halkbank—which now operates in Iran.

That, says Laylaz, is just the start of far bigger deals: 12 business agreements were signed during Modi’s visit to Tehran. “India is increasing its consumption of energy, and we can import a lot of goods and services, including high tech, from India,” he says. “Everyone in Tehran is counting on this relationship, and this visit.”

That relationship could be sealed in the port of Chabahar. Perched on the Gulf of Oman, the port provides a strategic outlet to the Persian Gulf and the Indian Ocean.


Just 43 miles east of Chabahar sits Pakistan’s port of Gwadar, which China has invested millions in developing. Brookings Institution fellow Tanvi Madan told CNBC on Monday that by investing in Chabahar’s port, India had “an eye on China as well, what China is doing not just in Pakistan… but also with countries in the Middle East.”

Chabahar is just one piece of India’s strategy in Iran, however. Modi also agreed to spend about $1.6 billion building a rail link from Chabahar to Iran’s inland city of Zabehan. That will form part of a new transportation network that links not only Iran and India, but also Afghanistan—a country that’s also emerging from years of war and sanctions, and whose huge mineral resources are in need of investment and customers.

All that has brought a flush of optimism to Iranians, many of whom have been deeply disappointed by how few major Western investments have begun since sanctions ended four months ago.

For Rouhani, new business and an improved economy are crucial in showing Iranians that their concessions to the West under the nuclear deal was worth it. Rouhani faces a reelection vote next Spring, and hardliners who opposed nuclear deal are maneuvering to unseat him. Without new investments, “The conservatives will go back and tell people, ‘you promised change, and we see nothing coming in,’” French-Iranian lawyer Adarvan Amir-Aslani told Fortune last month.

Although French President François Hollande and Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi have visited Tehran since, Iranians are not expecting a visit from their country’s old enemy, the U.S., any time soon.

“We have to solve a lot of mutual problems between Tehran and Washington, and after that maybe we can expect such a treat,” Laylaz says. “Obama is visiting Vietnam 40 years after the war. And we are only in the first year after the ‘war’ between Iran and the U.S. We need a lot more time.”

http://fortune.com/2016/05/24/narendra-modis-trip-to-tehran-means-for-india-iran-and-afghanistan/

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Iran surely needs all the investments it can get to justify nuke deal. It's a start and I think after oil prices recover a bit, they should be able get more money and it will also help justifying the nuke deal.
 
US backs India-Iran Chabahar port deal despite residual suspicion over Tehran

WASHINGTON: The Obama administration on Tuesday batted for India with regards to New Delhi's energy initiative with Iran and Afghanistan via Chabahar, amid residual suspicion and misgivings among some lawmakers whether there could be a strategic and military dimension to the tripartite agreement.

US senators closely examined assistant secretary of state for South Asia Nisha Desai Biswal on the Chabahar deal during a hearing, but the official said Washington recognized that from New Delhi's perspective that Iran represents a gateway into Afghanistan and Central Asia. She had not seen any sign of Indian engagement with Tehran in areas such as military cooperation, which might be of concern to the United States, she added.

"For India to be able to contribute to the economic development of Afghanistan, it needs access that it does not readily have across its land boundary. And India is seeking to deepen its energy relationship with the Central Asian countries and looking for routes that would facilitate that," Desai-Biswal told the Senate foreign relations committee, assuring members that the Obama administration has been "very clear with the Indians what our security concerns have been and we would continue to engage them on those issues."

"They (Indians) have been very responsive and receptive to our briefings, to what we believe the lines are. And we have to examine the details of the Chabahar announcement to see where it falls in that place," she added.

Given President Barack Obama's own outreach towards Iran and US difficulty in maintaining a toe-hold in landlocked Afghanistan because of its problems with Pakistan, Washington is broadly supportive of the Chabahar deal, particularly since it outflanks the China-Pakistan axis in neighboring Gwadar. But such is the reflexive suspicion in US over Iran, often stimulated by the so-called Israeli lobby, that many lawmakers still have reservations about any deal with Tehran.

While some senators wanted to know if the deal to develop the Chabahar port violated any sanctions against Iran, others wanted to know if India was ready to sign a formal security cooperation agreement with the US during Prime Minister Modi's visit to Washington next month. India and the United States have already strengthened their security cooperation in several areas and ''We're looking at what additional areas we can engage in to deepen that cooperation," Biswal replied cautiously.

The pow-wow over India-Iran relations came amid a precipitous slide in US-Pakistan ties over the drone strike that killed Taliban leader Mulla Mansour, purportedly while he was returning from Iran under the impression that Pakistan had bought an insurance for him against drone strikes because he was a key figure in talks.

But US officials said he was taken out because he was an obstacle to peace. "Mansour represented an effort to rekindle the war, rekindle the conflict, re-stoke the violence in Afghanistan, and was not interested in pursuing peace. We believe that an Afghan-led, Afghan-owned peace process is the way ultimately to resolve the conflict in Afghanistan," state department spokesman Mark Toner said.

Pakistan's de facto military ruler Raheel Sharif also jumped into the fray on Tuesday, summoning US ambassador to Islamabad David Hale to the GHQ and warning that Pakistan-US ties would be affected, even as the Pakistani media has been kvetching about why Mansour was killed only after entering Pakistan and now while he was more accessible while traveling freely in the Gulf.

TV anchors have been working up a lather wondering if Iran sold him down the drain, even as some Pakistani commentators have been marveling at India's ability to strike a balance between Iran and Saudi Arabia, something Pakistan has been unable to do.

On its part, the Obama administration has pretty much said it will continue to attack terrorist targets in Pakistan if they don't sue for peace and Islamabad and Rawalpindi can stuff it if does not like it.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...uspicion-over-Tehran/articleshow/52438034.cms
 
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India To Sign 10-Year Deal With Iran To Manage Chabahar Port: Report

India is likely to sign an agreement with Iran on Monday to manage the southeastern Iranian port of Chabahar for the next 10 years, the Economic Times reported.

India Shipping Minister Sarbananda Sonowal is likely to travel to Iran to sign the agreement, the report said, citing unidentified sources.

The Indian government did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

India has been developing a part of the port in Chabahar, which is located on Iran's southeastern coast along the Gulf of Oman, as a way to transport goods to Iran, Afghanistan and central Asian countries that avoid the port of Karachi in its rival Pakistan.

US sanctions on Iran, however, have slowed down the port's development.

 
India To Sign 10-Year Deal With Iran To Manage Chabahar Port: Report

India is likely to sign an agreement with Iran on Monday to manage the southeastern Iranian port of Chabahar for the next 10 years, the Economic Times reported.

India Shipping Minister Sarbananda Sonowal is likely to travel to Iran to sign the agreement, the report said, citing unidentified sources.

The Indian government did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

India has been developing a part of the port in Chabahar, which is located on Iran's southeastern coast along the Gulf of Oman, as a way to transport goods to Iran, Afghanistan and central Asian countries that avoid the port of Karachi in its rival Pakistan.

US sanctions on Iran, however, have slowed down the port's development.

Under the current strained relationship between Americans/Iranians, this might not go down well.
 
Seems to be a message to Five eyes regarding Khalistan, India is treading a dangerous path as well but due to Israel though US and Canada have lost a lot of narrative influence in the world which gives it space to do this.
 
India To Sign 10-Year Deal With Iran To Manage Chabahar Port: Report

India is likely to sign an agreement with Iran on Monday to manage the southeastern Iranian port of Chabahar for the next 10 years, the Economic Times reported.

India Shipping Minister Sarbananda Sonowal is likely to travel to Iran to sign the agreement, the report said, citing unidentified sources.

The Indian government did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

India has been developing a part of the port in Chabahar, which is located on Iran's southeastern coast along the Gulf of Oman, as a way to transport goods to Iran, Afghanistan and central Asian countries that avoid the port of Karachi in its rival Pakistan.

US sanctions on Iran, however, have slowed down the port's development.

America wont allow them doing any sort of trade with Iran specially when Iran is already giving them a tough time.
 
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