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Is Babar Azam a potential future captain of Pakistan?

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Babar Azam "The Future Captain"

There's hasnt been any trend of grooming Future captains in Pakistan cricket.

But post appointment of INZI as C.S there has been some interesting moves in PCB.

One among these is the appointment of Babar Azam as a Captain of A team.

He has been quite impressive in 9 ODIS with 5 fifties against decent bowling attacks.

What has to be seen is will he succeed as a captain of A team?If he does then I think IA he might become captain of ODI and T20 captain aftet 2019

Right now we have two captains who dont even deserve a spot in squad

Azhar in Odi
Sarfi in T20

Within 1year Hafeez/Malij should be captaining Odi and T20 and Babar should be sent as captain to A tours and also Odi matches against AFG&ZIM

post 2019 wc he'll be ready to become a captain

Lets see how PCB grooms him...
 
Azhar should be given till the champions trophy. Babar should be given capatincy experience at domestic level and when he's about 26/27 should be made skipper
 
Hafeez and Malik - both will never captain ODI side.

Azhar Ali captaincy career will be finalized by Champions Trophy 2017 performances. Though i don't have any hope in him.
 
Let's see how he deals with the pressure of captaincy first. Important that it doesn't affect his run-scoring.

I remember he led our U-19 team in 2010, we reached the QF vs India but lost that, and lost all the 5th place, 7th place, etc matches after that. Probably the team was disinterested after losing to India, but it was still a disappointing performance.
 
Hope we skip Sarfaraz and jump straight to Babar (granted Azam is able to continue performing)
 
There's hasnt been any trend of grooming Future captains in Pakistan cricket.

But post appointment of INZI as C.S there has been some interesting moves in PCB.

One among these is the appointment of Babar Azam as a Captain of A team.

He has been quite impressive in 9 ODIS with 5 fifties against decent bowling attacks.

What has to be seen is will he succeed as a captain of A team?If he does then I think IA he might become captain of ODI and T20 captain aftet 2019

Right now we have two captains who dont even deserve a spot in squad

Azhar in Odi
Sarfi in T20

Within 1year Hafeez/Malij should be captaining Odi and T20 and Babar should be sent as captain to A tours and also Odi matches against AFG&ZIM

post 2019 wc he'll be ready to become a captain

Lets see how PCB grooms him...

I think, you are slightly wrong here - it was never about trend; rather it was about how to support a Young Captain.

Javed Burki was made Captain at 23 - a player never good enough to hold his spot on playing merit, therefore he was a wrong choice; but he was more than competent as Captain, an Oxford graduate, who later finished as a CSP. At similar time IND appointed Pataudi, at 21 years, 77 days; youngest ever Test Captain & he led India for next 14 years (barring the period he was out of cricket for eye injury).

After that, none of the young Captains appointed were not supported by PCB. They had some individual man management issues definitely, but Javed, Wasim, Sohail, Moin, Mailk were made Captain before or around 25; & all of them were sacked. Interestingly enough, apart from Malik - each & everyone was appointed Captain later by the same Clown Board. Mian Malik also can become a Captain again - you never know Pakistan Clown Board.

These people were sacked against revolt from :Seniors: - ironically, they were reappointed by the same people to lead many of those Seniors. For example - Javed was reappointed Captain in 1984, to lead a team of Zaheer, Bari, Sarfraz, Qadir; Wasim was made Captain 2nd time in 1995 & 3rd time in 1998 - both times, to lead most of the players revolting against him in 1993. These people wasted most of their energy, instead of winning 3 World Cup of 90s.

Ideally, I would have made Aamir Captain & Babar his deputy after AUS tour - and whoever has any issues with that, Ièll make them run in Kakul camp with underwear only.
 
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Malik as odi captain and Babar as the vice sounds promising.
 
And yet another player has begun to be hyped to the moon.

Fully confident (with a twinge of sadness) that this will fall apart in the years to come, as always.
 
Pakpassion users as usual quick to find the next saviour of Pakistani cricket before he has even established a place in the starting XI
 
Pakpassion users as usual quick to find the next saviour of Pakistani cricket before he has even established a place in the starting XI

He is a member of the starting XI in ODIs. And he has been named 'A' team captain so it's possible that he is thought of as future captaincy material.

The title of the thread says 'captain', rather than 'saviour'. No one thinks that our LOI problems will be magically rectified overnight.
 
He is a member of the starting XI in ODIs. And he has been named 'A' team captain so it's possible that he is thought of as future captaincy material.

The title of the thread says 'captain', rather than 'saviour'. No one thinks that our LOI problems will be magically rectified overnight.

It's all fair and well being named captain of the A team, but what captaincy qualities has he shown thus far for users to suggest he is the "future captain" post 2019? I've seen similar posts for many other cricketers eg Sarfraz and Wasim who now don't even merit a place in the limited over XIs.
 
It's all fair and well being named captain of the A team, but what captaincy qualities has he shown thus far for users to suggest he is the "future captain" post 2019? I've seen similar posts for many other cricketers eg Sarfraz and Wasim who now don't even merit a place in the limited over XIs.

Babar merits his place in odis though :misbah
 
Right now he does yes, but what's to say he will post 2019?

If he carries on developing and improving I'm sure he will. It's better to plan like this than just to name a random captain out of nowhere like we have done with Azhar
 
If he carries on developing and improving I'm sure he will. It's better to plan like this than just to name a random captain out of nowhere like we have done with Azhar

Insha Allah he does, but for now too early to call
 
Insha Allah he does, but for now too early to call

You have to take risks sometimes. He is seen as someone who could be a good player for us and seems to be seen as capatincy material by PCB.
 
Captains are not made but instead "GROOMED".Hence the move of appointing him as a captain of A team is the first step.

Then we have PSL...He is in IU where MISBAH is captaining...misbah wont play 2018 psl(not sure about 2017).so from PSL 2018 he can be appointed as captain of IU and made ready till 2019 post WC
 
Everyone has seen his masterful batting, he is well on his way to joining the fab 4 clique of Kohli, Smith, Root, and Kane, question is if he has the potential to be as good of a captain as them.

Keep a watch on his leadership! :babar
 
Nope... if Fakhar keeps playing he will be the next captain. He has already shown his excellent captaincy credentials in domestics. I hope they keep picking him as domestic captain to further hone his skills.

Hasan is another one who is a potential captain, but don't know if he has any captaincy experience.


From the uncapped lot, Zeeshan Malik is definitely a future captain of Pakistan. It is only a matter of time before he gets his Pakistan debut.


But for now we have Saifi, the best Pakistani captain since Immy. Haters gonna hate.
 
Babar Azam is young and has just begun his international career. It would take a while for us to actually observe if he has the potential to become the captain of Pakistan.
 
Nope... if Fakhar keeps playing he will be the next captain. He has already shown his excellent captaincy credentials in domestics. I hope they keep picking him as domestic captain to further hone his skills.

Hasan is another one who is a potential captain, but don't know if he has any captaincy experience.


From the uncapped lot, Zeeshan Malik is definitely a future captain of Pakistan. It is only a matter of time before he gets his Pakistan debut.


But for now we have Saifi, the best Pakistani captain since Immy. Haters gonna hate.

Fakhar needs to establish himself as an opener in the league of Warner and Quenty Kock first, early days for him.

Hasan is definitely a good option, smart player.

Sarfaraz is in worrying form, batting, keeping, and fitness is average.
 
NO.

Never supported the idea of a specialist batsman Captain for PAK. Ideally, Amir should be Sarfraz's deputy & later Shadab as Amir's deputy. Fakhar isn't a bad shout as deputy now, but he has to prove that CT final wasn't a fluke first.
 
NO.

Never supported the idea of a specialist batsman Captain for PAK. Ideally, Amir should be Sarfraz's deputy & later Shadab as Amir's deputy. Fakhar isn't a bad shout as deputy now, but he has to prove that CT final wasn't a fluke first.

what difference does it make if its a specialist batsman as a captain?
 
He has a lazy, laid-back, lethargic approach to both batting and fielding. He doesn't seem like a leader of men who commands respect. Hopefully, time will prove me wrong.
 
Think he should focus purely on his game for now but this question will be eventually asked of him. Entirely up to him too imo. Don't know what he's like off the field either. Captaincy is a big responsibility and only he knows whether he can shoulder that burden or not.
 
Zeshan Malik is a quality captain, one of the best in Pakistan despite limited experience.
 
From what i have seen, Fakhar zamaan was terrific as a captain in domestic LA.
 
NO.

Never supported the idea of a specialist batsman Captain for PAK. Ideally, Amir should be Sarfraz's deputy & later Shadab as Amir's deputy. Fakhar isn't a bad shout as deputy now, but he has to prove that CT final wasn't a fluke first.

Fast bowlers cannot play all games in this day and age. How do u expect Amir to be a captain if he is not available for all games?
 
I think Amir has the perfect character and personality for captaincy. Babar seems a bit timid.

But by the time Sarfraz retires i think Shadab should be groomed for captaincy
 
No. Shadab Khan should be the captain in 5 years time. Until then, Sarfraz is good. I'd be more than happy if Sarfraz can up his fitness, give his batting a little more importance because he is SERIOUSLY talented and improves his keeping - this way, he can continue for 7 more years and retire with Shadab being the perfect replacement as captain.
 
Babar already captained under 19 team so definitely it will benefit the team if he is appointed captain in any 1 format
 
You guys should be aware of the fact that he has captained Pak U 19 and Pak A.In the QF of U-19 WC 2012 against India he was immaculate with his bowling changes while defending a very low total.
 
No and nor should he be given any indication as such.

He is a purely a top batsman in limited overs cricket who needs to carry on working hard to keep getting better.

I especially want him to turn his Test game so he can become a complete batsman.
 
How are people writing him off without even seeing him captain? We don't know anything about his captaincy. He could be a genius tactician for all we know.
 
Fast bowlers cannot play all games in this day and age. How do u expect Amir to be a captain if he is not available for all games?

Very good point - it was valid for Wasim & Imran a well. That's why you need a very good deputy, who'll allow Captain to skip match (s). Ideally, Amir's (I am not for the fast bowling spearhead as Captain for sure, but no other option) deputy should be someone like Shadab or Hasan or no choice but Babar. BUT, on a short term basis Sarfraz, Malik or MoHa can lead the side when Amir rests until his deputy is ready.

In an ideal world, this mess shouldn't have happened had Misbah been shown the door after 2013 CT (But he could remain as player) & someone like MoHa or Malik made Captain and instead of Azhar or Sarfraz (No discredit, very good LO Captain, but at the wrong age on wrong job), an younger vice Captain is assigned. In that case, yes, Amir doesn't make it because he wasn't available,but Sarfraz was 4 years younger. Or, another solution could be to make Sarfraz Captain after 2015 WC and Amir/Hasan deputy after 2017 CT, so that Sarfraz can be relieved in some matches - if he can manage till 2019 better, if not, there is a ready deputy available for promotion. All this mess, because PCB made a 38 years old Captain 3 years before WC without a transition in mind.
 
what difference does it make if its a specialist batsman as a captain?

This is a philosophical discussion, therefore I am discussing ideal case scenario. But, it might happen that there is not better option than Babar.

Coming to the question, I'll respond it on 4 parts. History tells that specialist batsmen are often extremely defensive, safety first Captains and they try to use their influence to protect from defeat. That starts from playing on belters and picking 6/7 specialist batsmen in Test side. Cricket is a game of wickets - you have to find a way to get batsmen out and often specialist batsmen don't go for the kill at 50/50 situation. Whichever specialist batting Captain has done well were often leading a dominant side, where his job was more of house keeping. From Jardin/Bradman to Chappell, Lloyd, Tubby Taylor, Ponting, Smith, Strauss and now Kohli - they led solid sides, where they hardly were asked questions at 50/50 situations. Even Misbah & Cook were very good Captains at the venues their team were dominant. Unless the team is well settled & a solid bunch, batting Captains often make the game boring.

2nd point is the individual performance index. At the end of the day, apart from team's result, a Captain is responsible for own performance. Now, cricket batting is the most perfectionist job in sports - you make one mistake and you mind end effectively as 12th man for 5 days. For a batting Captain of an average side, pressure on own performance is extremely high. Statistically, if I take a 50 as minimum acceptable benchmark for a batsman, even the best are bound to fail 3 times out of 4. No one is going to give Captain a respite if he gets an unplayable ball for 29 (48). For a strong unit, it's not the biggest deal - once Mark Taylor had 18 Tests without a 50 (then he made 334*), but his team was doing fantastic. This is where bowling Captains, particularly all-rounders get lots of space, because bowling KPIs are measured in a different way - a bowling Captain can finish a Test for 1/100, but if he bowls well, he won't be criticized as much as a batting Captain going for 23 & 35. Besides, bowling Captains can find a space to hide - if he goes for runs, simply he can take him off for few overs and come back strong later; batting Captain can't go for an hour & come back. This actually allows bowling (all-rounder) Captain more space to relax when chips are down - isn't a big deal if you are leading a top side, but not for a side 7th in ranking.

For PAK specific, there are couple of reasons, I don't feel confident about batting Captain. First one is that, there is hardly any batsman who can lead from the front. Here, I am not talking about piling up runs like Azhar or Misbah. Last PAK Captain that was capable for that was Inzi & he led with full authority for 4 years - if Babar can replicate that, may be he can manage, time'll tell. 2nd factor is the core strategy of the team - PAK as a team can never play the game like what MSD does. That cat & mouse game is simply out of book. Play book for PAK is 10 wicket game - keep attacking & find a way to get batsmen out. This is where I found most batting Captains limited - they are not aggressive enough, neither have the bowling psyche, often misses the moments of killer instincts.

Historically, for most teams (apart from SRL, ZIM & BD - comfortably the 3 worst bowling sides in history), the historical best Captains were mostly all-rounders or batsmen who were decent bowlers. There are few exceptions (that's all-rounder being poor Captain), but these are the top Captains of most countries (my order, writing from memory with 1/2 misplaced, excluding current ones) -

AUS: Benaud, Ian Chappel, Armstrong, Taylor, Border, Jhonson, Monty Noble, Bradman, Darling, Vic Richardson, Simpson, Vic Trumper, Woodful (remember, ACB never appointed 2 of the best ever cricket minds for different reasons - Miller & Warne)
ENG: Tony Greig, Illingworth, Close, Ted Dexter, Jardin, Brearley, May, WG Grace, Walter Hammond, Strauss, Hutton, Willis, Nasser, Chapman, Douglas
WI: Worrell, Lloyd, Alexander, Viv, Sobers, Goddard, Stollmeyer, Denis Atkinson
SAF: Smith, Cronje, Bacher, Cheetham, Percey Sherwell, Goddard, Faulkner (Procter & Rice would have top class Captains)
NZ: Howarth, Fleming, Reid, Mac, Coney
IND: Pataudi, Ganguly, MSD, Lala, Kapil, Wadekar, Gavaskar
PAK: Imran, Kardar, Mushtaq, Wasim, Misbah, Intekhab, Javed
SRL: Arjuna, Wanrapura, Mahela, Mendis

Almost all of these Captains were accomplished First Class bowlers at least, most of them were Test all rounders or batting all-rounders. The fundamental of cricket leadership demands understanding of the moments to go for the kill - this is one solo reason, I supported MoHa as Captain over Misbah many, many times.

If there was no options, I probably would have gone for Babar obviously, but at the moment I'll go for Amir as Safr's deputy & may be Babar as Amir's deputy after 2019 WC, to take over after 2023 WC .... and Shadab becomes Babar's deputy to take over after 2027 WC for 4 to 8 years. It sounds a long pipe dream, but 10 years is too little time for such phasing out.
 
I think he will be, captained at U19 level. I wouldn't take demeanour as a serious factor it's open to interpretation and isn't a reflection of the captain's tactical ability. People said a similar thing about Sarfraz, was too timid when he first entered international cricket and look how that turned out.

Fakhar would be a good option too, he captains in domestic, but too close to Sarfraz in terms of age. A possible stop gap. But say Sarfraz captains for at least five more years, Babar would be a in his late 20s with 7 years of experience. Would seem the obvious choice, as if he's good, you could potentially get 10 years of captaining worth out of him.
 
This will better for him to keep composed for at least 5 years afterwards may depend on situation.
 
Sarfi keeps him by his side and keeps him in love in game also praises him like there’s no tomorrow I think PCB is grooming him to be the next captain
 
Good to see pak have a handful of smart players and potential captain candidates now.
Starting with Sarfraz there are Amir, Babar, fakhar, Hasan ali, shadab. Waqar wanted a young team after 2015 but he doesn't possess that pedigree MICKEY brings to identify potential and back them. When it comes to tests mickey has failed and not up to his mark yet. Mickey has taken this team to new shape with a young team not going for a TTF recycling phase.
 
Good to see pak have a handful of smart players and potential captain candidates now.
Starting with Sarfraz there are Amir, Babar, fakhar, Hasan ali, shadab. Waqar wanted a young team after 2015 but he doesn't possess that pedigree MICKEY brings to identify potential and back them. When it comes to tests mickey has failed and not up to his mark yet. Mickey has taken this team to new shape with a young team not going for a TTF recycling phase.

Mickey was absolutely spot on excluding likes of Umar Akmal!

Waqar didn't want him in team as well but was unable to expel him.
 
NO.

Never supported the idea of a specialist batsman Captain for PAK. Ideally, Amir should be Sarfraz's deputy & later Shadab as Amir's deputy. Fakhar isn't a bad shout as deputy now, but he has to prove that CT final wasn't a fluke first.

Pakistan has produced some fine specialist batsman Captain in the past and i m sure you know who they are..
 
Pakistan has produced some fine specialist batsman Captain in the past and i m sure you know who they are..

I have listed the names - you can add/modify that if you think otherwise; then we can discuss.
 
Babar is very raw, let him learn and bat... in between the overs you see him doing childish funny things etc (same with hasan ali) which by no means is a bad thing, but shows they are no where near ready to be deputy captain, let alone being captain.

Another thing is, when you have a solid, balanced, and talented team, then usually it doesnt really matter who the skipper is, you will mostly win. For eg. 80's windies, 2000's aussies...
 
At some point in the future he will captain Pakistan.

He's captained at junior levels and Pakistan A also.
 
At some point in the future he will captain Pakistan.

He's captained at junior levels and Pakistan A also.

Which is no mean feat. given almost every guy has captained Pakistan minus Danish Kaneria...
 
Which is no mean feat. given almost every guy has captained Pakistan minus Danish Kaneria...

Some are groomed to captain Pakistan from a young age, others aren't. Babar falls into the first category.
 
How are people writing him off without even seeing him captain? We don't know anything about his captaincy. He could be a genius tactician for all we know.

Pakistan finished 7th at u19 WC with Bobby the tactician at the helm :ashwin
 
I don't think so I would rather choose shadab or amir as captain in the next few years!!!
 
No. Saw him in u-19 wc 2012 and wasnt that great. Azeem Ghumman was a better captain but a much inferior player.
 
Obsession with making everyone a captain is inherent in our society!! When Wahab bowled the spell of his life in Australia, he was voted to be the captain on every blog. I guess there are 11 captains and no solders in Pak team. The reality is that the leadership is a natural trade and I can only see it in Shoiab Malik and Sarfraz Ahmed in this team right now.
 
I have listed the names - you can add/modify that if you think otherwise; then we can discuss.

your list is great and your post very thoughtful.. but i disagree with your comment that you have to be an allrounder at the least to be a good captain..

btw you missed a great indian captain Azharuddin and him like javed were not really allrounders.. but great captains.. some keepers have been great captains too but they hardly bowl if ever.. and this applies to Pakistan as well.. Younis won us t20 worldcup he couldnt bowl either.. to name a few and im sure there are plenty of examples in first class cricket all over the world
 
your list is great and your post very thoughtful.. but i disagree with your comment that you have to be an allrounder at the least to be a good captain..

btw you missed a great indian captain Azharuddin and him like javed were not really allrounders.. but great captains.. some keepers have been great captains too but they hardly bowl if ever.. and this applies to Pakistan as well.. Younis won us t20 worldcup he couldnt bowl either.. to name a few and im sure there are plenty of examples in first class cricket all over the world

Azhar and Javed were no where the Captain close to the names I have mentioned at top - W/L isn't the only factor here. Javed's W/L is based on bashing weaker teams when Imran decided to skip while Azhar stayed there for long because he was a God son of Raj Singh Dungerpore, IS Bindra & Jaghmohan Dhalmiah - kept sweet relation with all 3 and they were happy with a perfect yes man. He was not even in line for vice Captaincy before that NZ tour.

Both of them were extremely defensive as Captain. Javed was one of the most cunning man in the game, a street fighter but he didn't have the leadership personality, neither the guts to call decisive shots - it was was a perfect mixture that Javed was Imran's deputy - Javed had the tactical nuances, probably better than Imran, who had the maturity to listen & pick the right suggestion among options. Same goes for Azhar - in his initial days, Shasrti was instrumental, later Tendulkar and Kumble were his great support. In that regard Tendulkar & Javed were similar - lots of ideas, intelligence but not the personality - they bolted when given the charge.

Here I am talking about Cricket Captaincy, a role which is more of a mentor, leader and a philosopher; who understands his team, players and lead from the front. Pataudi, Ganguly, MSD, Lala Amarnath were leaders beyond W/L - at the end of his career, Kohli will easily have the best W/L among Indians; he is not even the best Captaincy material in his current team. Similarly, if Sarfraz has to close gaps with Imran, Kardar, Mushtaq or Akram - first thing he has to learn is to keep calm when chips are down. What we are watching in field is from a guy winning 10-2 so far; imagine what he'll do when it goes opposite....... then he has to do the ultimate - justify his position to lead from the front.

I am not saying Babar will be a failure, guy is leading PAK sides from U13 level; but if options are available, I'll go for an all-rounder.
 
I am not saying Babar will be a failure, guy is leading PAK sides from U13 level; but if options are available, I'll go for an all-rounder.

Again i am not making a case for babar but making a general point that i dont buy the argument that to be a good captain you need to be able to bowl.. mccullum is also another example that he made a difference with aggressive captaincy.. i hear your argument and respect your point of view but i will stick to my understanding of the game and cricket captaincy..
 
I think he will be the next captain when Sarfraz is done. He makes the team on merit and can lead the team through performance. That should be the first 2 things we look for in the next captain.
 
Should be made captain in some dead rubbers, like today's.

He's certainly a future captain in all 3 formats.

On a sidenote, needs to develop his game against spin and his power game.
 
Appoint Babar Azam as all format captain

This is the only way to go about it. Babar fits all categories of being a captain.

Makes the team on merit, can lead by example and can be an option for the long run.

There is no other option. Way to go!
 
sorry let him settle in the team first. Too early to make him test captain.
 
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