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Is it the right decision to re-appoint Babar Azam as white-ball captain?

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AAli98 said:
Did the great windies team of 70s 80s play with spinners? No need when you have rolf Haris.
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Joke aside, its really puzzling to not see any proper spinner playing in these games from Paksitan. Every team has proper spinners. Part timers can do well occasionally, but got to play spinners regulalrly. At least 1 proper spinner if not 2.
 
Buffet said:
Joke aside, its really puzzling to not see any proper spinner playing in these games from Paksitan. Every team has proper spinners. Part timers can do well occasionally, but got to play spinners regulalrly. At least 1 proper spinner if not 2.
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Our proper spinners (whatever we do have) are warming the bench every tournament.

It’s a dangerous precedent to set and now every young player would want to be like Shadab, Imad or Nawaz where they can do a bit of both and be bad at everything.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Our proper spinners (whatever we do have) are warming the bench every tournament.

It’s a dangerous precedent to set and now every young player would want to be like Shadab, Imad or Nawaz where they can do a bit of both and be bad at everything.
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I somehow don't remember them doing that well with either bat or ball. May be there is place for such players but not at expense of not playing any proper spinner.
 
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I somehow don't remember them doing that well with either bat or ball. May be there is place for such players but not at expense of not playing any proper spinner.
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You can find a few games here and there, but that doesn’t mean you promote them before a proper middle order batter in Iftikhar Ahmed.

Just to have Shadab bat, we messed up the careers of Usama Mir and Abrar Ahmed. I mean, such unprofessionalism only happens in Pakistan and then we sit here and cry why everything is going wrong.
 
Babar did not want to play abrar ahead of his buddy Shadab that is why he kept on dragging him even though everybody knew that shadab was no good.

I hope this dosti culture can be put to rest for good now because I don't wanna see Babar captain anymore. He has had enough time to improve but he is still living in past.
 
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So what happened to Kristen’s report? Looks like things getting cooler as fans gave up. Naqvi doesn’t looking keen to do anything
 
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'Babar's biggest mistake ... ': Former Pakistan cricketer slams Babar Azam's captaincy, calls him 'weak'
Former Pakistan cricketer Rashid Latif on Tuesday criticised Pakistan captain Babar Azam for his poor leadership in the recently concluded ICC T20 World Cup in the Americas. Pakistan failed to make it to the Super 8s after being stunned by newcomers the United States and eventual champions India in the group stage.

Latif called Babar a "weak" captain, expressing disappointment with his leadership.

Under Babar's captaincy, Pakistan also failed to progress to the semifinals of the ODI World Cup last year, suffering defeats to India, Australia, Afghanistan, South Africa, and England in the group stage.

Babar's form and captaincy once again came under scrutiny after Pakistan's lackluster performance in the ICC T20 World Cup. Pakistan's losses to the USA and India in the group stage dashed their hopes of advancing to the Super 8s of the mega tournament.Babar scored 122 runs in 4 matches at an average of 40.66.

"Babar Azam shouldn't have been removed as captain after the ODI World Cup in India. Shaheen came in to replace him. But Babar's second tenure as captain was weak. Babar looked weak. This is not the way team selection should be done," Latif said.

"Babar didn't fight (in the T20 World Cup). His biggest mistake was accepting the captaincy again. If he continues as captain, it will be an even bigger mistake. He is drifting away from his game," the former cricketer said.

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Cricket News: Former Pakistan cricketer Rashid Latif expressed his dissatisfaction with Babar Azam's captaincy during the recent ICC T20 World Cup held in the Ameri
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Babar Azam recently had a meeting with Shannon Young, a renowned power-hitting coach from Australia, during a private visit to Lahore. The two cricket experts met at a local cricket club, where Azam sought guidance on improving his power-hitting skills. Young, who has worked with top Australian players like Maxwell and Labuschagne, is known for his innovative coaching methods that focus on boosting strike rates. His coaching techniques have also received praise from rising Australian opener Jake Fraser-McGurk, who credits Young for his impressive batting performances.

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FearlessRoar said:
Babar Azam recently had a meeting with Shannon Young, a renowned power-hitting coach from Australia, during a private visit to Lahore. The two cricket experts met at a local cricket club, where Azam sought guidance on improving his power-hitting skills. Young, who has worked with top Australian players like Maxwell and Labuschagne, is known for his innovative coaching methods that focus on boosting strike rates. His coaching techniques have also received praise from rising Australian opener Jake Fraser-McGurk, who credits Young for his impressive batting performances.

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Hooraaaaay

Now Babar will score a 35 ball hundred in T20!
 
FearlessRoar said:
Young, who has worked with top Australian players like Maxwell and Labuschagne, is known for his innovative coaching methods that focus on boosting strike rates.
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No matter whom you hire and coach, you can't turn Labuschagne and Babar into power hitters. They can only boost their strike rate against minnows or by playing on flat tracks at home.
 
FearlessRoar said:
Babar Azam recently had a meeting with Shannon Young, a renowned power-hitting coach from Australia, during a private visit to Lahore. The two cricket experts met at a local cricket club, where Azam sought guidance on improving his power-hitting skills. Young, who has worked with top Australian players like Maxwell and Labuschagne, is known for his innovative coaching methods that focus on boosting strike rates. His coaching techniques have also received praise from rising Australian opener Jake Fraser-McGurk, who credits Young for his impressive batting performances.

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At least listen to what Shannon is saying Babar.. :dw
 
FearlessRoar said:
Babar Azam recently had a meeting with Shannon Young, a renowned power-hitting coach from Australia, during a private visit to Lahore. The two cricket experts met at a local cricket club, where Azam sought guidance on improving his power-hitting skills. Young, who has worked with top Australian players like Maxwell and Labuschagne, is known for his innovative coaching methods that focus on boosting strike rates. His coaching techniques have also received praise from rising Australian opener Jake Fraser-McGurk, who credits Young for his impressive batting performances.

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Australia's leading power-hitting coach Shannon Young while talking to local Pakistani channel:

"He [Babar] is well, he is a world-class player."

“If there was a player like Babar [Azam] in Australia, we would have been supporting him instead of criticising. In Australia, we back them in and we say they've been world-class players, they're gonna be world-class players again."

"I think sometimes the passion tips over that these guys carry so much expectation through Pakistan's one of the best players in the world, he's gonna be fine."

"We're hoping that maybe April. Previously, I've always wanted to come to Pakistan, so I got the opportunity and I knew really early on that Australians would love Pakistan. So we're gonna bring hopefully a couple of tours to play cricket here."
 
FearlessRoar said:
Australia's leading power-hitting coach Shannon Young while talking to local Pakistani channel:

"He [Babar] is well, he is a world-class player."

“If there was a player like Babar [Azam] in Australia, we would have been supporting him instead of criticising. In Australia, we back them in and we say they've been world-class players, they're gonna be world-class players again."

"I think sometimes the passion tips over that these guys carry so much expectation through Pakistan's one of the best players in the world, he's gonna be fine."

"We're hoping that maybe April. Previously, I've always wanted to come to Pakistan, so I got the opportunity and I knew really early on that Australians would love Pakistan. So we're gonna bring hopefully a couple of tours to play cricket here."
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If Babar Azam was Australian, he wouldn’t even make it into their T20i side for a single WC game. He may have gotten a few opportunities for the away tours to teams like Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka…(as a b/c string player), but in reality he would never feature for Australia’s first XI in ICC fixtures or against teams such as England, India and South Africa.

Let’s not get gassed because one Australian (visiting Pakistan) praised Babar
 
Rana said:
If Babar Azam was Australian, he wouldn’t even make it into their T20i side for a single WC game. He may have gotten a few opportunities for the away tours to teams like Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka…(as a b/c string player), but in reality he would never feature for Australia’s first XI in ICC fixtures or against teams such as England, India and South Africa.

Let’s not get gassed because one Australian (visiting Pakistan) praised Babar
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I think he was referring to supporting babar azam and that if he was in the system the system would support him and would make him the next 2015 steve smith.

I don't Think Shannon Young understands that not only is the system completly different from CA, but babar mentality is not one to improve. He won't improve by saying things like " Im a t20 anchorer "
 
Salman Butt in a recent interview shed light on Babar Azam's second stint as a white ball captain:

"Let’s first talk about what Babar Azam has at hand. He is not a born leader. But the issue is, what have you contributed to make it easier for him?"

"You brought in two guys who humiliated him on TV. Then you changed the captain and brought him back after two series. You are creating corners within the team yourself,"

"There needed to be proper man management in the team. You are having him managed by those who couldn’t manage themselves their whole life,"

"You have wronged Babar; yes, he is not a good captain, but you didn’t give him ideal preparation either,"
 
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The Bald Eagle said:
Salman Butt in a recent interview shed light on Babar Azam's second stint as a white ball captain:

"Let’s first talk about what Babar Azam has at hand. He is not a born leader. But the issue is, what have you contributed to make it easier for him?"

"You brought in two guys who humiliated him on TV. Then you changed the captain and brought him back after two series. You are creating corners within the team yourself,"

"There needed to be proper man management in the team. You are having him managed by those who couldn’t manage themselves their whole life,"

"You have wronged Babar; yes, he is not a good captain, but you didn’t give him ideal preparation either,"
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What does Babar need to be a good captain?

Travis Head (who he will bat at 3)

Klaasen?

Bumrah (he prefers Naseem Shah)

Babar’s captaincy for KK and PZ is also there for everyone to see.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Salman Butt in a recent interview shed light on Babar Azam's second stint as a white ball captain:

"Let’s first talk about what Babar Azam has at hand. He is not a born leader. But the issue is, what have you contributed to make it easier for him?"

"You brought in two guys who humiliated him on TV. Then you changed the captain and brought him back after two series. You are creating corners within the team yourself,"

"There needed to be proper man management in the team. You are having him managed by those who couldn’t manage themselves their whole life,"

"You have wronged Babar; yes, he is not a good captain, but you didn’t give him ideal preparation either,"
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This is completly bogus from Butt.

Then you changed the captain and brought him back after two series. You are creating corners within the team yourself,"

- First off you didn't change the captain aka you didn't sack him. Babar willingly stepped down and he was never forced to. The reason Babar stepped down because he's a coward who was unwilling to deal with media attention. A strong leader needs to be able to face his critics head on. Rohit sharma had been critisized as a choker for years to the point that he broke in tears once India reached the 2024 final of the cup, but he remains captain, and faces everything head on.

It's also why the dugout respects him so much as he backs everyone.

Babar was brought back once media attention died down. No one forced him to step down and when offered captaincy, he had the right to refuse, no one forced him to back stab shaheen.

There needed to be proper man management in the team. You are having him managed by those who couldn’t manage themselves their whole life,"

- Again that is bogus, because Babar at this point has been managed by every Tom, dick and Harry imaginable, he first got managed by Misbah, Then got managed by various foreign coaches for the world cup in 2021, then got managed by Mickey again, then got managed by Gary, All these are world class coaches and In Mickey's case he helped pakistan reach no 1 t20 rank, beat atg England in their home den and win CT 2017.

Babar didn't listen, Every person on the planet told him to take Abrar, To take Haris etc for the cup. Bobby was so clueless he didn't even know Saud Shakeel wasn't making his debut in the NZ series as saud already had a half century to his name in odi before that game.

"You have wronged Babar; yes, he is not a good captain, but you didn’t give him ideal preparation either,"

- Hahaha, Joke of the century, He's been captaining Longer then even Misbah now in all formats and he's had more coaches then any other Pakistani captain in history. Ontop of which before 2023 wc you

A) Had an entire NZ series to prepare.

B) Had an Afghanistan series to prepare

C) Had an Asia cup to Prepare

Then before 2024 wc you had

A) Ireland Series to prepare

B) NZ series to Prepare

C) England series to prepare.

Same cases for 2021 and 2022 t20 wc where you were playing series all across the globe frequently and consistently. You even gloated about your no 1 pdi rank on social media and claimed you were more then ready to win wc 2023?

"You brought in two guys who humiliated him on TV."

This one i agree with, but its still Bobby's fault. He put himself in this position. Hasan Ali and Nawaz are clearly not the wonder houses for pakistan and are a part of this dosti yaari cult.

You could have easily taken Salman Agha and Mohammad Ali who do not have attitude issues and wish to contribute to pakistan cricket and play their game and have taken every opportunity to shine at their disposal and lets face it, And 100x superior cricketers to Hasan Has been Ali and Bottler Nawaz.

Who told you to sideline Agha a guy whonscored multiple half centuries back to back at no 4 for Rizwan? Who told you to take Hasan Ali after his 2021 botch and his freqent attitude issues?

PCB came running back to Oldies because you didn't bother grooming or preparing the Next Gen when you had every opportunity to.

"Let’s first talk about what Babar Azam has at hand. He is not a born leader. "

Then he shouldnt be captaining plain and simple. No one told you to replace Sarfraz back in 2020. Sarfraz could have easily continued till 2021-2023 and had chosen his successor by then.

Sarfi in 3 years of captaincy brought success in whiteball despite very limited resources. Pakiatani fans are deluded if they think sarfraz was going to achieve Australia atg status. Winning an icc event, Beating England at home den, having one of the most impressive W/L ratios in t20 is not an easy feat and shouldn't be ignored by saying things such as well he flopped against West Indies in a cup just to drive forward a Misbah narrative.
 
mominsaigol said:
"You have wronged Babar; yes, he is not a good captain, but you didn’t give him ideal preparation either,"
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I think he is right here as well. Babar became captain and look at the changes in PCB> Raimz raja, Naqvi. Najam sethi, Zaka Ashraf.

The same is the case with coaches. There was no stability in the team.
 
BouncerGuy said:
I think he is right here as well. Babar became captain and look at the changes in PCB> Raimz raja, Naqvi. Najam sethi, Zaka Ashraf.

The same is the case with coaches. There was no stability in the team.
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No he isn't right, Changes in PCB have helped Babar as the likes of Zaka, Ramiz and Naqvi have scratched babar's back till no end.

They've given him full power.

Babar got plenty upon plenty of preparation before each cup.

He had a NZ series in both odi and t20, Played a series with Afghanistan, Played an Asia cup, Got to play Ireland and got to play a full strength England not to mention a full strength Test aussie side + Numerpus warmup matches in 2023 cup.

How much preparation do you need? He's played a billion matches and had months and months before each cup to get a gelled and capable unit in order?

But instead Babar decides Shadab of all people is his Ace?
 
mominsaigol said:
No he isn't right, Changes in PCB have helped Babar as the likes of Zaka, Ramiz and Naqvi have scratched babar's back till no end.

They've given him full power.

Babar got plenty upon plenty of preparation before each cup.

He had a NZ series in both odi and t20, Played a series with Afghanistan, Played an Asia cup, Got to play Ireland and got to play a full strength England not to mention a full strength Test aussie side + Numerpus warmup matches in 2023 cup.

How much preparation do you need? He's played a billion matches and had months and months before each cup to get a gelled and capable unit in order?

But instead Babar decides Shadab of all people is his Ace?
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He must not be given any nore captains roles, his role would now be senior batsman and must not be allowed to bat as an opner.
 
mominsaigol said:
No he isn't right, Changes in PCB have helped Babar as the likes of Zaka, Ramiz and Naqvi have scratched babar's back till no end.

They've given him full power.

Babar got plenty upon plenty of preparation before each cup.

He had a NZ series in both odi and t20, Played a series with Afghanistan, Played an Asia cup, Got to play Ireland and got to play a full strength England not to mention a full strength Test aussie side + Numerpus warmup matches in 2023 cup.

How much preparation do you need? He's played a billion matches and had months and months before each cup to get a gelled and capable unit in order?

But instead Babar decides Shadab of all people is his Ace?
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Exactly

How can Butt claim “how have we helped Babar?” Even though he was given everything he asked for?
 
BouncerGuy said:
I think he is right here as well. Babar became captain and look at the changes in PCB> Raimz raja, Naqvi. Najam sethi, Zaka Ashraf.

The same is the case with coaches. There was no stability in the team.
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I’m not surprised you think Salman Butt is right in favour of Babar Azam
 
Rana said:
I’m not surprised you think Salman Butt is right in favour of Babar Azam
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There is nothing in favor of babar azam atm. I am just talking about the instability factor in PCB system. Do you think there is no instability....
 
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There is nothing in favor of babar azam atm. I am just talking about the instability factor in PCB system. Do you think there is no instability....
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I don’t think the instability in the PCB admin affected Babar Azam’s choices as skipper.

We can all acknowledge Babar was given a free hand at everything up until the 2023 50 over World Cup. After the World Cup, some of the forced changes made by Hafeez, Waqar, Azhar Mahmood were absolutely correct decisions. They didn’t pay off how we would have liked but they were the right decisions.
 
Rana said:
I don’t think the instability in the PCB admin affected Babar Azam’s choices as skipper.

We can all acknowledge Babar was given a free hand at everything up until the 2023 50 over World Cup. After the World Cup, some of the forced changes made by Hafeez, Waqar, Azhar Mahmood were absolutely correct decisions. They didn’t pay off how we would have liked but they were the right decisions.
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Babar was given a free run for sure. Should have never returned as a captain for the 2nd time but PCB made a mess again.

Now he will be removed again I think and he should be. No point in keeping him captain now. Find someone else.
 
Rana said:
I don’t think the instability in the PCB admin affected Babar Azam’s choices as skipper.

We can all acknowledge Babar was given a free hand at everything up until the 2023 50 over World Cup. After the World Cup, some of the forced changes made by Hafeez, Waqar, Azhar Mahmood were absolutely correct decisions. They didn’t pay off how we would have liked but they were the right decisions.
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They weren't really forced.

Abrar was their to fill up and extra slot, you could take anyone even Glenn Maxwell himself as the 15th man and they wouldn't be played under any circumstances as long as shadab is their.

Imad and Amir were brought back for 2 reasons.

A) Babar could use then as scapegoats if things went south which as you can see alot of people on this forumn including Mr last laugh 24/7 did.

B) If things went great then Babar gets praised forever as the captain who led the squad to victory.

It gets heats off ove him because if he took nawaz and Hasan Ali for the 3rd time ans they bottled it again like in 2021 aussie game or 2022 India game or 2023 SA game then RIP Bobby.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Salman Butt in a recent interview shed light on Babar Azam's second stint as a white ball captain:

"Let’s first talk about what Babar Azam has at hand. He is not a born leader. But the issue is, what have you contributed to make it easier for him?"

"You brought in two guys who humiliated him on TV. Then you changed the captain and brought him back after two series. You are creating corners within the team yourself,"

"There needed to be proper man management in the team. You are having him managed by those who couldn’t manage themselves their whole life,"

"You have wronged Babar; yes, he is not a good captain, but you didn’t give him ideal preparation either,"
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Total non sense from Salman Butt. Babar is enjoying the privilege of captaincy since last 6-7 years with same group of 8-9 players despite losses after losses. I would also like to highlight another important point, Babar has enjoyed the comfort of playing many international series at home which some of the previous captains & many players badly missed during their playing days since 2009 and also there was no PSL before 2016. Babar has failed to win any big home series except against SA. There are administrative issues in many boards like in SA, Sri Lanka, Bang, Aghan, WI but there players does not use this reason to hide their failures. Yes PCB has several administrative and functional issues but Babar & Co got quite a long rope without much accountability
 
During a recent video on his YouTube channel, former Pakistan cricketer Basit Ali suggested that Babar Azam should relinquish his white-ball captaincy to focus on his batting:

“Babar Azam has made the last century against Nepal in the Asia Cup. It is a great chance for him to prove himself. To come back in the Test Rankings. And he is not the captain. It is a very good thing. And he should quit the white-ball captaincy as well. He should focus on his batting. He is a premium batsman of Pakistan. So, he should perform well.”
 
FearlessRoar said:
During a recent video on his YouTube channel, former Pakistan cricketer Basit Ali suggested that Babar Azam should relinquish his white-ball captaincy to focus on his batting:

“Babar Azam has made the last century against Nepal in the Asia Cup. It is a great chance for him to prove himself. To come back in the Test Rankings. And he is not the captain. It is a very good thing. And he should quit the white-ball captaincy as well. He should focus on his batting. He is a premium batsman of Pakistan. So, he should perform well.”
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Basit Ali should also relinquish his suggestions too.

This guy and his links to the dosti Yaari group need to be exposed.
 
Salman Butt while discussing Pakistan's fitness culture on his YouTube channel said:

"Babar Azam scored truckloads of runs in the last 2 years, he proved his fitness, he ran on the field, and scored runs while batting first as well as second innings. Things should go up but they are getting broken in the middle, which is wrong. So, this is the responsibility of the players to maintain their fitness."
 
People are only here for Babar Azam in this scorching heat during the 1st Test between Pakistan and Bangladesh. Listen to the chants "Hamara captain kaisa ho, Babar Azam jaisa ho"

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Rana said:
Basit Ali should also relinquish his suggestions too.

This guy and his links to the dosti Yaari group need to be exposed.
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As the captains are announced for the Champions One-Day Cup 2024, Babar has refused the offer to be the captain of the Stallions.

IMO, it was a wise decision by him. he needs to stay away from this role in all forms of cricket and should focus on regaining his form.
 
BouncerGuy said:
As the captains are announced for the Champions One-Day Cup 2024, Babar has refused the offer to be the captain of the Stallions.

IMO, it was a wise decision by him. he needs to stay away from this role in all forms of cricket and should focus on regaining his form.
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He doesn’t have what it takes
 
According to media reports:

Babar Azam is likely to be replaced as Pakistan's white-ball captain ahead of the Australia tour. The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is considering appointing a new captain for the tour, where Pakistan will play three T20Is and as many ODIs.

White-ball head coach Gary Kirsten discussed this matter with board officials during his visit in July. Discussions will take place regarding Mohammad Rizwan's potential captaincy, and if an agreement is reached, Rizwan could become captain in all three formats in the future.
 
FearlessRoar said:
According to media reports:

Babar Azam is likely to be replaced as Pakistan's white-ball captain ahead of the Australia tour. The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is considering appointing a new captain for the tour, where Pakistan will play three T20Is and as many ODIs.

White-ball head coach Gary Kirsten discussed this matter with board officials during his visit in July. Discussions will take place regarding Mohammad Rizwan's potential captaincy, and if an agreement is reached, Rizwan could become captain in all three formats in the future.
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It's happening?
 
FearlessRoar said:
According to media reports:

Babar Azam is likely to be replaced as Pakistan's white-ball captain ahead of the Australia tour. The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is considering appointing a new captain for the tour, where Pakistan will play three T20Is and as many ODIs.

White-ball head coach Gary Kirsten discussed this matter with board officials during his visit in July. Discussions will take place regarding Mohammad Rizwan's potential captaincy, and if an agreement is reached, Rizwan could become captain in all three formats in the future.
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Better late than never.
 
FearlessRoar said:
According to media reports:

Babar Azam is likely to be replaced as Pakistan's white-ball captain ahead of the Australia tour. The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is considering appointing a new captain for the tour, where Pakistan will play three T20Is and as many ODIs.

White-ball head coach Gary Kirsten discussed this matter with board officials during his visit in July. Discussions will take place regarding Mohammad Rizwan's potential captaincy, and if an agreement is reached, Rizwan could become captain in all three formats in the future.
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Good decision if true. Rizwan is better captain than all the options available at the moment. However, gear up for some funny and unnecessary interviews from him during post match presentations.
 
Maliq_Mudasir said:
Good decision if true. Rizwan is better captain than all the options available at the moment. However, gear up for some funny and unnecessary interviews from him during post match presentations.
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He'll make a mockery of Pakistan cricket
 
Rana said:
So Rizwan and Babar opening in T20s for the next 5 years?
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Tbf, I am not surprised. Theirs a reason I made that rizwan and Misbah thread.

I felt the writing was on the wall. Amd ik for a fact gillsipie and Shan are walking.

Gary Kristen isn't walking though, but misbah is 100% getting test coach role. And rizwan will be the captain for the Australia series in Nov.

I can't believe I have to watch my favourite team play against this guy leading pakistan 🤣🤣🤣
 
mominsaigol said:
Tbf, I am not surprised. Theirs a reason I made that rizwan and Misbah thread.

I felt the writing was on the wall. Amd ik for a fact gillsipie and Shan are walking.

Gary Kristen isn't walking though, but misbah is 100% getting test coach role. And rizwan will be the captain for the Australia series in Nov.

I can't believe I have to watch my favourite team play against this guy leading pakistan 🤣🤣🤣
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Can’t wait for Rizwan demanding 140 max tracks in Pakistan to justify his 100 sr approach
 
Mohsin Naqvi went from begging Babar to take back the captaincy to now having him sacked under his tenure.
 
On what basis is Rizwan being considered as WHITE BALL captain?

His BATTING performance in the recent TESTS? He was so useful for captaincy that Shan asked him to hang back in the dressing room and get replaced by Sarfraz to help him captain.

Or was it the recent T20 WC. i.e. his fantastic capitulation vs a Bumrah straight ball? Or his failure vs the USA? Or maybe his run a ball 50 vs Canada (in a t20 no less)
 
TheSultan said:
On what basis is Rizwan being considered as WHITE BALL captain?

His BATTING performance in the recent TESTS? He was so useful for captaincy that Shan asked him to hang back in the dressing room and get replaced by Sarfraz to help him captain.

Or was it the recent T20 WC. i.e. his fantastic capitulation vs a Bumrah straight ball? Or his failure vs the USA? Or maybe his run a ball 50 vs Canada (in a t20 no less)
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This might sound crazy to you, but he might be chosen based on his domestic white ball captaincy, lol. Rizwan was probably the best captain in the PSL and there's really no one else with experience captaining in domestic cricket that's also always guaranteed to play in the team. Unless you want another shan masood or sarfaraz situation where they're only in the team to captain, rizwan is the best choice.
 
I think Masood will get one more series. I think Masood and Gillespie will be removed at the same time if things don't go well against England, as it will be difficult for Gillespie not to be lumped in based on the first test against Bangladesh. There are also other options such as Saud or even Sarfraz who could be given captaincy in tests in order to compare against the white ball captain. And perhaps even given the white ball captaincy if they succeed and the white ball captain fails. The reverse could also happen, if the white ball captain goes on a dream start and test captain fails, white ball captain takes over. I think that way you get more freedom in choices, and comparing captaincy rather being lumped with one decision. I think Masood might have taken over captaincy from Babar in white ball had he been a success in tests (and if PSL captaincy showed promise) but that isn't happening anymore.

I think Rizwan will get captaincy immediately in white ball formats. There isn't really a current player in the team who is even average performing right now, nor playing both ODIs and T20s. You'd have to make a left field play, either giving Saud captaincy before he's even given T20 spot, PSL captaincy or really succeeded at ODI level yet. Or you'd bring someone completely out of the squad in Haris. Which you could have the same issues as Masood if he can't keep his spot in the team. I think Saud is the real alternative to Rizwan, and I think would just be far easier to implement in if he became test captain first and then took over white ball.

Given that there is also quite a gap as the next test series after england will be in 2025. Hence there will be enough time to assess Rizwan's captaincy abilities in white ball by then. So in summary I think Masood will be given one more series, Rizwan will be given white ball. And by 2025, if Masood has failed against England, they'll either give Rizwan the test captaincy if he does well in white ball, or Saud test captaincy if Rizwan fails in white ball.
 
daytrader said:
It's possible that the match doesn't even happen. I believe the super 8's are divided into 2 groups of 4's. And the top 2 teams from each group will make the semis. We might meet them in knockouts if both teams make it.
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We met them in the knockouts I believe
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Babar Azam is committing career suicide by accepting captaincy at this point.

I dont know who his advisors are but he is being given terrible suggestions and by the time he is done he will be a footnote in Pakistan cricket history.
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They should have listened to you Doc
 
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