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Is Bangladesh really the second best team in Asia?

In fact, just to show how far this thread is out of date and how little Bangladesh have improved, I would suggest the following 2nd and 3rd Pakistan elevens would beat Bangladesh in all formats.

(none of these played in the last test)

2nd 11/3rd 11:

Imam/Hafeez
Fakhar/Zeeshan Ashraf
Saud Shakeel/Shoaib Malik
Haris Sohail/Sohaib Maqsood
Asad Shafiq/Kamran Ghulam
Sarfraz Ahmed/Kamran Akmal
Nawaz/Iftikhar Ahmed
Shadab Khan/Bilal Asif
Naseem Shah/Wahab Riaz
Haris Rauf/Mohammed Abbas
Hasnain/Dhani

Can you honestly say that Bangladesh would beat the Pakistan 3rd team?
 
This thread is now obsolete and a meme pretty much.

I think the title of the thread now should be "Is Bangladesh the fourth best team in Asia?".
 
Rajdeep said:
Think the time when this thread was created make sense. BD had whitewashed Pak in 2015 home series, beaten SL & Pak to reach Asia cup final 2016, beat Afg & Pak in 2018 Asia cup etc. Though they could never breach the fortness named India but was beating other Asian sides pretty regularly in 2015-2018 period.

Mashrafe's retiement has derailed their cricket and Pakistan cricket only improved post Sarfraz Ahmed being removed. So current Pakistan team has left Bangladesh to the dust but at the time when this thread was created - MADE SENSE :shakib
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Lol they drew the test series and won the odi series 2-1 against India in 2015.
 
Please don't degrade Bengal Tigers by comparing them to lesser teams, they definitely rival the Aussies of 2000s and Windies of 80s.


There is a poster here who claims BD is the fourth richest board, soon their economic might will make it impossible for lesser teams like Pakistan to even compete against mighty Bangladesh
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Lol they drew the test series and won the odi series 2-1 against India in 2015.
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Lol...I just looked up that 'test series'. It was ONE test. More then half the match was lost to rain. In the 2.5 days played, India scored 462 and Bangldesh all out for 256 following on. So clearly would have got thrashed in the 'test series' if rain hadn't saved them. ODI series results count for zilch when there is a test series also taking place. The tests are the biggies.
 
The Googly said:
Lol...I just looked up that 'test series'. It was ONE test. More then half the match was lost to rain. In the 2.5 days played, India scored 462 and Bangldesh all out for 256 following on. So clearly would have got thrashed in the 'test series' if rain hadn't saved them. ODI series results count for zilch when there is a test series also taking place. The tests are the biggies.
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Pakistan have shown what can happen in a rained off match when a team shows some intent.

No need to be salty. I was just reminding the poster that India drew a series and lost another in BD. Something he conveniently forgot.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Pakistan have shown what can happen in a rained off match when a team shows some intent.

No need to be salty. I was just reminding the poster that India drew a series and lost another in BD. Something he conveniently forgot.
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Bangladesh was a better team than Pakistan in 2015-2018 period. So when the thread was created it made sense back then...that's all I am saying.

Pak vs BD matches (01 Jan 2015 - 31 Dec 2018)
4 ODIs - BD won all 4
3 T20Is - BD won 2 and Pak won 1

Ind vs BD matches (01 Jan 2015 - 31 Dec 2018)
7 ODIs - Ind won 5 and lost 2
6 T20Is - Ind won all 6

Bangladesh was clearly 2nd best team from Asia when this thread was made.
 
Rajdeep said:
Bangladesh was a better team than Pakistan in 2015-2018 period. So when the thread was created it made sense back then...that's all I am saying.

Pak vs BD matches (01 Jan 2015 - 31 Dec 2018)
4 ODIs - BD won all 4
3 T20Is - BD won 2 and Pak won 1

Ind vs BD matches (01 Jan 2015 - 31 Dec 2018)
7 ODIs - Ind won 5 and lost 2
6 T20Is - Ind won all 6

Bangladesh was clearly 2nd best team from Asia when this thread was made.
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Rajdeep - you are a cricket fan so you will know that the BEST cricket team overall is the one that is better in the most difficult format - TEST CRICKET. Bangladesh had their peak in 2015 and they nbeat India and Pakistan in ODI series. However, Pakistan won the test series very comfortably and India had the better of the rain affected sole test. So I would contest the 'better team' verdict even in 2015.

If you phrased it that Bangla were a better limited overs side then Pakistan in 2015 - you would be very accurate. A better side in all formats ? Not at all.

Secondly - to claim Bangladesh were a better side then Pakistan during the period 2015-2018 is an absolute joke. You do realise that Pakistan recovered from the 2015 blip to become world test champions (Test Mace) and won a global ODI tournament on 2017?

This is not an anti-BD thread. I simply disagree with how much better Bangladesh were then other Asian sides in 2015. In all other years, the debate is nonsensical. 2015 was their sole year where they had a claim. I will concede they were a better ODI side in 2015 and 2015 alone then Pakistan and Sri Lanka.
 
Forget about Asia , BD team is 2nd best team only in Bengal, after Western Bengal .
 
The Googly said:
Rajdeep - you are a cricket fan so you will know that the BEST cricket team overall is the one that is better in the most difficult format - TEST CRICKET. Bangladesh had their peak in 2015 and they nbeat India and Pakistan in ODI series. However, Pakistan won the test series very comfortably and India had the better of the rain affected sole test. So I would contest the 'better team' verdict even in 2015.

If you phrased it that Bangla were a better limited overs side then Pakistan in 2015 - you would be very accurate. A better side in all formats ? Not at all.

Secondly - to claim Bangladesh were a better side then Pakistan during the period 2015-2018 is an absolute joke. You do realise that Pakistan recovered from the 2015 blip to become world test champions (Test Mace) and won a global ODI tournament on 2017?

This is not an anti-BD thread. I simply disagree with how much better Bangladesh were then other Asian sides in 2015. In all other years, the debate is nonsensical. 2015 was their sole year where they had a claim. I will concede they were a better ODI side in 2015 and 2015 alone then Pakistan and Sri Lanka.
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Also how many ODIS/T20s did Pak and Bdesh play in 2016-2018 when I would suggest that Pakistan were far better then Bangladesh. (test mace and global tournament winners).

Stats can be very easily twisted.
 
Rajdeep said:
Bangladesh was a better team than Pakistan in 2015-2018 period. So when the thread was created it made sense back then...that's all I am saying.

Pak vs BD matches (01 Jan 2015 - 31 Dec 2018)
4 ODIs - BD won all 4
3 T20Is - BD won 2 and Pak won 1

Ind vs BD matches (01 Jan 2015 - 31 Dec 2018)
7 ODIs - Ind won 5 and lost 2
6 T20Is - Ind won all 6

Bangladesh was clearly 2nd best team from Asia when this thread was made.
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Given the fact you missed two emphatic humiliations, India received in 2015 from BD its quite clear your memory between 2015-2018 is hazy and therefore there is no point continuing the conversation.
 
India is clear #1. Rest will keep playing musical chairs for the #2 spot. Bangladesh was doing well back when this thread was started (unfair to mock OP). Right now Pakistan and SL are looking clearly superior.
 
A strong bangladesh team will light up the cricket world , bangladesh have produced some very good cricketers over the years. Tamim iqbal , shakibul hasan , mustafizur , mushfiqur , mahmudullah , taijul , mehdi hesen etc. For a brief period of time bangladesh was a very good team but they fell off the wagon. A lot of first class cricket is played in bangladesh , may be they need to improve their pitches and level of competitiveness in their domestic cricket to produce more quality cricketers. Liton das is another very good player.

Secondly bangladesh needs to focus on test cricket , play 8 10 test matches a year. Play pakistan 4 test match series every two years and with other teams too , the more they play test cricket the better they will get in all other formats.
 
Pakistan will never play regular series against BD as they are afraid to lose. Can you imagine BD spinners running through lead-footed PK batsmen.
 
bujhee kom said:
Pakistan will never play regular series against BD as they are afraid to lose. Can you imagine BD spinners running through lead-footed PK batsmen.
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Didn't Pakistan toured Bangladesh for a test and t20i series recently, with the results clearly for everyone to see!!
 
bujhee kom said:
Pakistan will never play regular series against BD as they are afraid to lose. Can you imagine BD spinners running through lead-footed PK batsmen.
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You make other Bangladeshi posters look bad.

Pakistan toured Bangladesh less than 6 months ago. BD lost 0-5. I am trying to understand your logic.
 
bujhee kom said:
Pakistan will never play regular series against BD as they are afraid to lose. Can you imagine BD spinners running through lead-footed PK batsmen.
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Oh the same Bangladesh which lost a test in less than 2 days? 🤣🤣🤣
 
Pakistan and Sri Lanka have returned and how. Good to see these 2 subcontinental power houses back in business. Dare I say the battle for no.1 is open as well. Asia Cup will be very interesting.

However, Bangladesh continue to disappoint. They just can't jump to the next level. One-odd series win with doctored pitches and you hear all the hullaballoo till they're brought back to earth in away/neutral venues.
 
Bangladesh would lose to Ireland, Scotland and UAE after Shakib, Tamim and Mushfiqur retires. Add Netherlands there too
 
Bangladesh did win a test in NZ though . When was the last time Pakistan didn't lose a test in the southern hemisphere?

However, in ODI cricket, I believe BD hasn't improved.

I'd go

PAK
IND
BD
SL

for now. But SL will likely overtake them soon as they look the better side.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Bangladesh did win a test in NZ though . When was the last time Pakistan didn't lose a test in the southern hemisphere?

However, in ODI cricket, I believe BD hasn't improved.

I'd go

PAK
IND
BD
SL

for now. But SL will likely overtake them soon as they look the better side.
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Once in a century fluke. They won't be beating any team other than Zimbabwe anytime soon, home or away.
 
They are not even top three. If you consider all three formats SL is will beat them to top three. Pathetic BD once again showing that they are all about chest thumping. I had great expectations for them pre pandamic.
 
Joseph Gomes said:
Once in a century fluke. They won't be beating any team other than Zimbabwe anytime soon, home or away.
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I think BD can beat West Indies at home.

West Indies haven't won an ODI series in BD since 2011 (played 3 series since then; lost all).

They also won against Afghanistan 2-1 recently. I think they are okay at home but very bad away.
 
At one point it looked like Bangladesh would surpass Pakistan atleast in ODIs, but no. Banlgadesh is one horrible team and nowhere near Pakistan in any format.
 
Ban couldn't capitalize on their big 4 to kickstart producing more players of that quality.

The constant changes of captaincy didn't help either.

ODIs still remain their strongest format. But they need to let players like Shakib realize how prestigious international cricket actually is.
 
I don't think any team has personified minnow mentality more than Bangladesh ever since they've entered cricket. With other teams (Zimbabwe, Ireland, Afghanistan) you can atleast point towards political, social, economic factors that have impeded their growth as cricket teams.

Bangladesh can make none of those excuses with a fast growing economy, a largely stable political environment and a population that is only really interested in one game.

And this is where they are 36 years after playing their first international match, and 22 years after acquiring test status.
 
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bujhee kom said:
Bangladesh is the 5th best team in the SC. Even UAE and Nepal would fancy their chances.
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Nice to see you acknowledge Afghanistan being better than you

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...-afghanistan-only-test-1197138/full-scorecard

Only Test, Chattogram, September 05 - 09, 2019, Afghanistan tour of Bangladesh

Afghanistan 342 & 260

Bangladesh 205 & 173

Afghanistan won by 224 runs

Player Of The Match
Rashid Khan, AFG
51, 5/55, 24 & 6/49

This was Afghanistan's 3rd ever test match and first away from home, in their second year as a test playing nation
 
Joseph Gomes said:
Nice to see you acknowledge Afghanistan being better than you

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...-afghanistan-only-test-1197138/full-scorecard

Only Test, Chattogram, September 05 - 09, 2019, Afghanistan tour of Bangladesh

Afghanistan 342 & 260

Bangladesh 205 & 173

Afghanistan won by 224 runs

Player Of The Match
Rashid Khan, AFG
51, 5/55, 24 & 6/49

This was Afghanistan's 3rd ever test match and first away from home, in their second year as a test playing nation
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I would love to see Afghanistan vs Bangladesh test at the MCG with 80,000 people.
 
Joseph Gomes said:
Nice to see you acknowledge Afghanistan being better than you

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...-afghanistan-only-test-1197138/full-scorecard

Only Test, Chattogram, September 05 - 09, 2019, Afghanistan tour of Bangladesh

Afghanistan 342 & 260

Bangladesh 205 & 173

Afghanistan won by 224 runs

Player Of The Match
Rashid Khan, AFG
51, 5/55, 24 & 6/49

This was Afghanistan's 3rd ever test match and first away from home, in their second year as a test playing nation
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Afghanistan are better than BD in Test and T20.

But, I think BD are better than them in ODI. Afghanistan actually lost 1-2 against BD in ODI recently (less than 6 months ago). They also lost 1-2 before that.
 
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The problem with Bangladesh is the fact that they have not improved at all after their brief purple patch of 2015, when they won ODI series against Pakistan, India and South Africa at home.

At that time, everyone including me thought that it was the start of Bangladesh's rise in international cricket, but now it seems like it was nothing more than a flukey period of a few months, which coincided with Pakistan's worst ever ODI side.

Since then, they have been borderline mediocre against the big boys, and just about competitive against struggling Sri Lanka and WI. They even lost a Test against Afghanistan, and now are struggling to beat Zimbabwe, a country where cricket is more or less dead.

In Tests, they are probably 4th amongst Asian teams. India, Pakistan and SL are way ahead even in their worst days. Bangladeshi cricketers simply don't have enough interest in Test cricket, which is a shame, and the they are going right now, I won't be surprised if a far more passionate Afghanistan team surpasses them as well.

In T20Is, they are probably the worst Asian side, their ranking (10th) says it all. I would be surprised to see them win a game in the WT20I against a group of Pakistan, India and SA. For some reason, they never look threatening in this format. You always expect them to score around 150-160 on their best days, and unfold pretty easily in a steep chase.

ODIs remain their "strong" format, but again, they are far from being a good side there as well. They can manage to snatch a couple of wins against the WI and SL at home at their best, but they still are far behind their Asian neighbours. The gap with SL is a bit closer in ODIs than the formats though.

It makes me laugh when I remember some posters saying that Bangladesh will surpass Pakistan in international cricket in a few years.

Absurd.
 
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Asia's best teams in all formats
In tests...
1) India
2) Srilanka
3) Pakistan
4) Afghanistan
5) Bangladesh

In ODIs
1) Pakistan
2) India
3) Srilanka
4) Afghanistan
5) Bangladesh

In T20s
1) India
2) Pakistan
3) Afghanistan
4) Srilanka
5) Bangladesh
 
Punjab Kings said:
Asia's best teams in all formats
In tests...
1) India
2) Srilanka
3) Pakistan
4) Afghanistan
5) Bangladesh

In ODIs
1) Pakistan
2) India
3) Srilanka
4) Afghanistan
5) Bangladesh

In T20s
1) India
2) Pakistan
3) Afghanistan
4) Srilanka
5) Bangladesh
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Based on current form Pak actually might be better than Ind in T20s.. in ODI i would still back India to beat PCT.. and the rankings reflect that as well, why would PCT be better than Ind in ODI?
 
JaDed said:
Based on current form Pak actually might be better than Ind in T20s.. in ODI i would still back India to beat PCT.. and the rankings reflect that as well, why would PCT be better than Ind in ODI?
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India is currently #1 in T20 (by a big margin too).
 
Punjab Kings said:
Asia's best teams in all formats
In tests...
1) India
2) Srilanka
3) Pakistan
4) Afghanistan
5) Bangladesh

In ODIs
1) Pakistan
2) India
3) Srilanka
4) Afghanistan
5) Bangladesh

In T20s
1) India
2) Pakistan
3) Afghanistan
4) Srilanka
5) Bangladesh
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Sri Lanka aren't better than Pakistan in Test. Pakistan are better.

I also think India are better than Pakistan in ODI. India just beat England in England.

Finally, I think BD are better than Afghanistan in ODI. BD beat Afghanistan 2-1 (ODI) in February and have 7-4 head-to-head record against them.
 
JaDed said:
Based on current form Pak actually might be better than Ind in T20s.. in ODI i would still back India to beat PCT.. and the rankings reflect that as well, why would PCT be better than Ind in ODI?
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Did India not win 8-9 consecutive T20 series in a row? Is Pakistan better because of one win over India? Should India have been considered better ODI team in the 90's because they defeated Pakistan in 3 ICC games in that decade?
 
giri26 said:
Did India not win 8-9 consecutive T20 series in a row? Is Pakistan better because of one win over India? Should India have been considered better ODI team in the 90's because they defeated Pakistan in 3 ICC games in that decade?
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No it’s because of the combination of Pak T20 team irrespective Asia cup will tell us the story.
 
JaDed said:
No it’s because of the combination of Pak T20 team irrespective Asia cup will tell us the story.
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what combination? I agree that they have one world class bowler (Shaheen) and two world class batters (Rizwan & Babar). These three defeated India last time and Pakistan will rely only on these three again in Asia cup and WT20, how is that a great combination? Both teams are equally strong and weak. Pakistan might thrash India in 3 or 4 games in a row or vice-versa might happen but I think both teams are equally matched.
 
Gave India a run for their money in the tests. Won the ODI series before the Ishan Kishan massacre. Bangladesh looking strong.
 
They are alright at home but very bad away.

Overall, they are the 4th best team possibly (all 3 formats and home/away factor combined).
 
Mirpur bowling in 4th innings , Banglades are odds on favorites on a pitch like this. They triggered a similar collapse against England from 100/0 to 164 all out. Stokes despite bazballing couldn't last long. Made only 24 and got out.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Mirpur bowling in 4th innings , Banglades are odds on favorites on a pitch like this. They triggered a similar collapse against England from 100/0 to 164 all out. Stokes despite bazballing couldn't last long. Made only 24 and got out.
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Same happened for Australia while chasing 260 odd. Warner scored a century, but from 150 odd for 2, they just disintegrated quickly to lose the match.
 
WengerOut said:
Same happened for Australia while chasing 260 odd. Warner scored a century, but from 150 odd for 2, they just disintegrated quickly to lose the match.
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The keeper was yelling throughout the innings "Mirpur wicket mirpur wicket". As he was chirping India kept losing wickets. Credit to two batsmen to battle it out.
 
WengerOut said:
Maybe second best home team overall.
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Not really....they've recently dropped tests at home to Afg, WI and even Pakistan whitewashed them last year.

Those wins against Aus and Eng came back in 2016, their team has regressed a bit since then.

India actually made them look better.
 
Ashmal said:
Not really....they've recently dropped tests at home to Afg, WI and even Pakistan whitewashed them last year.

Those wins against Aus and Eng came back in 2016, their team has regressed a bit since then.

India actually made them look better.
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What you are saying is true for Test.

They have done better in home ODIs and home T20s. They actually lost just one home ODI series since 2015.
 
Staking real claim as second best team for Asia?

Beat India in ODI series and now T20 series win against England
 
Sri Lanka making a case for being the 2nd best although in recent tournaments Afghanistan seemed to have secured that status.

Its between Lankans and Afghans for me followed by Pakistan at #4 and Bangladeshis at #5 and Nepal at #6
 
BD is a strong contender for fourth best in ODIS and tests and sure of being fifth in T20Is. Nepal has few more years before they will dethrone pathetic BD
 
No way. Bangladesh is far away from 2nd best probably 4th spot. India, Afghanistan, Pakistan, srilanka are ahead of them atm.
 
My current test rankings

India
Sri Lanka
Bangladesh
Afghan/Pak

I was actually quite surprised by hammering Pak gave SL last year in SL. I'd rate that as a fluke performance
 
Bangladesh are currently 5th in Asia imo, especially in ODI's.

After a few bright spots in 2015, they have completely stunk up the joint .

Despite playing ODI cricket for nearly 27 years, how do they suck so much ? :inti

It's got to be a complete lack of talent in Bangladesh
 
Hellion said:
Bangladesh are currently 5th in Asia imo, especially in ODI's.

After a few bright spots in 2015, they have completely stunk up the joint .

Despite playing ODI cricket for nearly 27 years, how do they suck so much ? :inti

It's got to be a complete lack of talent in Bangladesh
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they are basically trending back to mean. They had their golden generation which gave them few series wins and couple of final appearances in Asia cup. Not a single final in ICC tournaments or a championship wins though. Now they are back to their usual mediocre level. I would say they are the fourth best Team in ODIS

Test
India
Pak/SL
BD
AFG - needs to have more sample and performance to go up

ODI/T20
India
SL/Pak
AFG
BD
 
Take India’s losses against SL and BD with a grain of salt. India never sends its first choice team to SL or BD, it’s the fringe players that get a chance. The real results are quite evident in tournament matches when India’s first (available) choice team plays them.
India plays its top team against Pakistan, given we only play in ICC / ACC tournaments. Pakistan is still the top dawg after India.
 
Not sure why this thread is reopened? But if you want to play games from this CT BD is 3rd Asian Team.
 
SportsWarrior said:
they are basically trending back to mean. They had their golden generation which gave them few series wins and couple of final appearances in Asia cup. Not a single final in ICC tournaments or a championship wins though. Now they are back to their usual mediocre level. I would say they are the fourth best Team in ODIS

Test
India
Pak/SL
BD
AFG - needs to have more sample and performance to go up

ODI/T20
India
SL/Pak
AFG
BD
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In T20, BD have much much better T20 Squad now compared to before. That might be one of the reasons they are sucking in ODIs.
 
BDfanforever said:
In T20, BD have much much better T20 Squad now compared to before. That might be one of the reasons they are sucking in ODIs.
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BD has better medium pacers now but they don’t have the batsman and spin bowlers to be a better team. Most top teams have few explosive batsman along with one or two very good spinners. T20 needs explosive batters and good spinners. Medium pacers can be very expensive unless they are Bumrah or bowler of similar stature
 
SportsWarrior said:
BD has better medium pacers now but they don’t have the batsman and spin bowlers to be a better team. Most top teams have few explosive batsman along with one or two very good spinners. T20 needs explosive batters and good spinners. Medium pacers can be very expensive unless they are Bumrah or bowler of similar stature
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BD's problem is there is no real GOAT level players. They looked up to mediocre players. Ashraful is an example. There was no one like Aravinda de silva , Roy Dias for Srilanka. Later Jayasuriya, Mahela, Sangakkara emerged. Heck even Matthews has decent numbers. Most of them are from school system. Ya their pace unit has improved. But batting is a perennial problem. Their statistics are downright pathetic in ICC events.
 
Sri Lanka is the second best team in Asia now followed by Pakistan. In the limited overs cricket, Afghanistan seems superior to Bangladesh these days. Bangladesh team good set of players, but they appear to play clueless cricket. Perhaps some better coaching set up could improve their performance in the coming years.
 
This thread mostly gets bumped by salty Indian posters. I see an Indian bumped this thread again. Not sure why because BD is currently not playing any game.

Is the objective to annoy/troll Bangladeshi posters? If yes, you failed because no Bangladeshi poster got triggered.

Anyway, BD is currently #5 in Asia. But, they can sometimes beat Pakistan and Sri Lanka.

:inti
 
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This thread mostly gets bumped by salty Indian posters. I see an Indian bumped this thread again. Not sure why because BD is currently not playing any game.

Is the objective to annoy/troll Bangladeshi posters? If yes, you failed because no Bangladeshi poster got triggered.

Anyway, BD is currently #5 in Asia. But, they can sometimes beat Pakistan and Sri Lanka.

:inti
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There is no Indian who ever has ever been salty about Bangladesh or Bangladeshis in particular.

This bump is simply to show that Bangladesh don't have the requisite to be even 3rd in Asia , not consistently at least.

And once Mahmudullah also retires, good luck in the qualifiers for 2027 World Cup. :inti
 
BD main problem is they never get batting and bowling generation together. It's always opposite. 2019 their batting was quite good with prime Shakib, but bowling was complete dud led by limping Mashrafe.

They managed to solve lack of fast bowlers to some extent, but lack of power hitting still a major issue. They desperately need a Harry Brook or Klassen type of batsman.
 
Bangladesh is minnow team in world cricket after The playing more than three decades.

Afghanistan is 2nd best team in Aisa after India .

India
Afghanistan
Pakistan
Lanka
Bangladesh
:kp
 
jnaveen1980 said:
BD's problem is there is no real GOAT level players. They looked up to mediocre players. Ashraful is an example. There was no one like Aravinda de silva , Roy Dias for Srilanka. Later Jayasuriya, Mahela, Sangakkara emerged. Heck even Matthews has decent numbers. Most of them are from school system. Ya their pace unit has improved. But batting is a perennial problem. Their statistics are downright pathetic in ICC events.
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Yeah, I agree there. There is not a single player that opposition team has to plan around. There is no one who has to worry about any single player capable of taking the game away. At best they are all just decent players who will play steadily

Aravind’s, Jayasurya, were terror and Jayawardhane, Sangakarra, Attapattu, Dilshan, Vaas, Murali, Herath all will stand tall among the best in the world. There is no with that stature in BD

AFG has produced some outstanding players Rashid, Nabi and now a crop of youngsters who are exciting to watch. Heck I have heard more of Nepals Sandeep than spinner from BD who play eternally on their dust bowls.

Very mediocre legacy. Yes, things can change in the future but none of the current crop or those in the under 19 looks like anyone who will be a World beater. At best good players, that’s all. They need their Aravinda, Kalu and Ranatunga before they can get Sangakarras and Jayawardhanes. Let’s see
 
BDfanforever said:
BD main problem is they never get batting and bowling generation together. It's always opposite. 2019 their batting was quite good with prime Shakib, but bowling was complete dud led by limping Mashrafe.

They managed to solve lack of fast bowlers to some extent, but lack of power hitting still a major issue. They desperately need a Harry Brook or Klassen type of batsman.
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Batting needs serious work.

Top 3 are walking wickets. Whatever total Bangladesh end up posting is due to middle order and tail. In modern day cricket, good batting is essential to win consistently.
 
Not yet.

Simply put they don’t have the players, team skills or ability to rank at #2.. Yet.

I don’t think that Pakistan or SL (and now maybe even Afghanistan) will recognise them as a consistently (or even randomly) superior team.

Maybe when as a nation they continue on their upward economic trajectory, and there is an overall societal improvement.

Incidentally, the only player from Bangladesh that I recall worrying me as an Indian fan was Tamim. No one else, not even Shaqib.

Though their players have had some decent one off performances against us. Mushy, Ash come to mind.
 
After winning the test series in Pakistan, Bangladesh now won the T20s against them as well. This achievement is humongous considering opposition having players like Saim Ayub.

So has Bangladesh now sealed the deal to be the 2nd best team from Asia or Afghanistan, Srilanka has something to say about it?

:najam :kp
 
Rajdeep said:
After winning the test series in Pakistan, Bangladesh now won the T20s against them as well. This achievement is humongous considering opposition having players like Saim Ayub.

So has Bangladesh now sealed the deal to be the 2nd best team from Asia or Afghanistan, Srilanka has something to say about it?

:najam :kp
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Afghanistan won last ODI and T20 series against Bangladesh Plus they won last T20 World Cup match as well while Bangladesh lost the T20 series against USA and UAE . Afghanistan is 2nd best team from Asia after india.

:kp
 
prash88 said:
Afghanistan is the second-best team. They have better batters and spinners to beat Bangladesh in their home also.
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That is correct.

Afghanistan are better than Bangladesh and Sri Lanka currently. Maybe Pakistan too but that is debatable.
 
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