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This series will prove that in t20 format, not only is Bangladesh second best in asia currently but possibly even 1st. Also goes to show the flaws in t20 team rankings
Bangladesh are better chasers with rahim and mahmudullah.Pak vs BD is a close call. Whoever wins the toss and bat's first will win. Neither can chase. In limited overs cricket BD have the better and more experienced batting line up, while Pakistans bowling is better by far.
India B team without Bumrah, Kohli, bhuvi, pandya defeated this so called 2nd best team in Asia
Tamim would have made this side weaker.Bangladesh played without Tamim, Shakib, Sabbir, and Saifuddin. Both sides fielded B teams.
Having said that, Bangladesh is definitely not second best in Asia.
Can any other asian team dismiss Kohli for a second ball duck in his own backyard? Highly doubt it.
what is big deal ?pakistan have not played any test series in india last 12 year while sl pacer lakmal have done it in 2017 test series in india.
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thats not a second ball duck, if you had read my comment properly, i did say second-ball duck, not just any duck, although golden duck would obviously be even more impressive
what a absurd logic .What does a second ball duck or 11 back duck makes any difference? though the above scorecard test match was drawn by sl while your team far from drawing the test let alone winning
Firstly difference between 2nd ball and 11 ball duck is clearly that second one lasted more deliveries. Secondly, just to expose your bias against Bangladesh: "Only 11.5 overs were bowled on day 1 and 21 overs on day 2 due to rain and bad light. Play also ended early on days 3, 4 and 5 due to bad light." You really think Sri Lanka could have got 155 more runs with only 3 wickets remaining against India? Not to forget India declared second innings early with kohli still not out on 104 to try to force some result. You have clearly jumped over these facts just to try to belittle bangladesh.
which law in cricket state that 11 ball duck is different from 2nd ball duck ?)
both are same in cricket rule and you would have any point if that dismissal was changing the complex of match which it is clearly not .
You can fool any other person but not me who knows the result of each test match in that series .They also draw last test match fair and square so please don,t downgrade other team success when your team can barely won a seasion in entire test match
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please don.t disrespect sl test side they are far superior than bd and pakistan who recently won a test series in sa which not a single asian team could do in their entire history
2nd best after India in terms of producing talented batsmen, it is just their fast bowling is a disappointment.
The batsmen were demolished by Pakistan’s mediocre attack tho
You were unlucky not to see PAK batting on that track - would have been a treat to watch.
That day, there was another game scheduled in same town, 1.5 KM away .... and that was called off within 30 minutes; but ICC tried it's best to start this game for the expectations - and there were at least 4 stop-start. I am not sure if you had seen BD batting in two KO games - do you really think this batting line-up would be blown away by the same PAK attack we saw against India, if the condition wasn't almost unplayable?
Were the conditions as difficult as 105/9 reflect? As said in another thread congrats on BD reaching the finals but this is pretty poor excuse from you.
Thanks, for congrats.
What excuse - I actually haven't even tried to give one. You missed my first line in that post - the condition could have been even more difficult than 106/9 - you could only know that if PAK batted on that track on same day. Your No. 3 gave a good glimpse of the batting .... and I hope you did watch BD's No. 3 yesterday.
That's why, they say wait for both innings on a track. You have been in cricket long enough and have seen BD batting, and PAK bowling as well against AFGs & IND - if you think, that 106/9 was for the bowling pace & talent of PAK bowlers - then surely everything must be in place for PAK cricket. I have seen BD boys batting in two games, particularly against 3 SAF pacers batting first on same track - enough for me.
Impressed with Bangladeshi talent, I hope they are able to turn them into players that can actually perform. Litton Das is a good talent but he can't convert into runs. Talent is not Bangladesh's problem unlike SRL where none of their u19 players looked liked they ever deserved to be there. I hope Bangladesh in few years becomes what Pakistan and Srilanka of 90s and 80s were.
2nd best after India in terms of producing talented batsmen, it is just their fast bowling is a disappointment.
2nd best after India in terms of producing talented batsmen, it is just their fast bowling is a disappointment.
Can you give us the name of some of these talented batsmen who have done well.
It is quite evident when you have to depend on Hafeez and Malik for T20 series
Can you give us the name of some of these talented batsmen who have done well.
No idea what they have got to do with talented batsmen from Bangladesh. Please name us some talented batsmens from Bangladesh?
No idea what they have got to do with talented batsmen from Bangladesh. Please name us some talented batsmens from Bangladesh?
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You said they are second best team producing batting talent. Surely they must have produced some? Name few. You have digged yourself a whole hence saying wait for some time. Anything can change is future no denying that. Name few please?
Their Test ranking is #9, ODI ranking is #7, T20 ranking is #9
Why does such a thread exist?
21st September 2018 --> this was the date when thread was created. Different time and different scenario. Question is why are you digging up 2 years old thread?
21st September 2018 --> this was the date when thread was created. Different time and different scenario. Question is why are you digging up 2 years old thread?
Their Test ranking is #9, ODI ranking is #7, T20 ranking is #9
Why does such a thread exist?
They weren't really world-beaters back then either tbh
They weren't really world-beaters back then either tbh
Not world-beaters but also weren't a pushover. BD achieved these things during that period:
- Drawing Test series against a full-strength Aussie side at home (1-1).
- Drawing Test series against a full-strength England side at home (1-1).
- Drawing an away Test series against a full-strength SL side in SL (1-1).
- Beating Pakistan (3-0), India (2-1), and South Africa (2-1) at home in ODI.
- Drawing Test series against a full-strength South Africa side at home (0-0).
- Reaching finals of Asia Cup 2016 and Asia Cup 2018.
- Reaching semi-final of CT 2017.
As you can see, it was a period when we did much better and we were definitely not pushovers (specially at home). So, this thread was fine at that time but not fine now.
Fair play to you for giving proper evidence for your claim.
Most people don’t bother.
So respect to you for that.
I’d say around that time, Pakistan and BD were probably joint 2nd and after the 2018 asia cup, i think BD were slightly ahead
Thanks. I try to write based on facts and not emotions.
I say Pakistan were ahead of BD in Test but BD were probably slightly ahead in LOI. I am only referring to the period from 2015 to 2018 and not any other period.
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Not sure where he is getting this confidence from? Even their best players are wrong side of 30s now and won nothing. Darker days are ahead once Shakib and Co decide to retire.
The ranking among Asian teams is:-
India
Sri Lanka
Afghanistan
Bangladesh
Pakistan
His confidence is from his country's economy. Economic success will give rise to sporting success. That's what he says.
His confidence is from his country's economy. Economic success will give rise to sporting success. That's what he says.
We are storming ahead of India in economic terms as well. Miles ahead of India now in per capita income.
We are storming ahead of India in economic terms as well. Miles ahead of India now in per capita income.
I wouldn't say miles ahead
But yeah, Bangladesh should have a higher per capita income than India in the longer run. India has more than 8 times the population of Bangladesh and therefore that much more poor people to pull out of poverty than BD. So the smaller countries would usually end up having a higher gdp per capita compared to the really big countries, unless they're really failing.
India has regions that are richer than Bangladesh, like south India, west India, Punjab, Haryana, etc., but it also has regions that are much poorer than Bangladesh (northern belt and eastern India). So the average per capita would be near to the median value of all these states which is slightly lesser than Bangladesh's.
You have folded in 2 days at home, how bad is your economy currently? how bad are your cricketing resource compare to Pakistan? stop embarrassing yourself and admit Pakistan has out played Bangladesh and is a miles better team.
None of the subcontinental countries are likely to become first world countries in our life time so not sure whats the point of bringing economies into this. domestic leagues yes we can talk about it but national team?
I am projecting long term here. How will Pakistan compete with us when only Chittagong has more wealth than Pakistan?
As for India, they took aid from Kenya so cannot talk here either.
I am projecting long term here. How will Pakistan compete with us when only Chittagong has more wealth than Pakistan?
As for India, they took aid from Kenya so cannot talk here either.
He kept saying that economic success would lead to sporting success, which is not entirely wrong btw. When you have more money, you can invest more in sports, training and infrastructure, and would lead to more success. But the issue is BD isn't translating its success in economy to success in sport. The poster here says BD has a tiger economy but it plays like it has the economy of Sudan.
I am projecting long term here. How will Pakistan compete with us when only Chittagong has more wealth than Pakistan?
As for India, they took aid from Kenya so cannot talk here either.
He kept saying that economic success would lead to sporting success, which is not entirely wrong btw. When you have more money, you can invest more in sports, training and infrastructure, and would lead to more success. But the issue is BD isn't translating its success in economy to success in sport. The poster here says BD has a tiger economy but it plays like it has the economy of Sudan.
I don't know why people keep bragging about the Bangladeshi economy - yes, they've made many strides and have a relatively better economy than other South Asian countries but it's just relative and their economic growth is based off exports like garments and agrilcutural stuff, Bangladesh isn't some high value exporter like Japan and South Korea that exports automobiles, electronics, microchips etc nor are they an exporter of a high value natural resource like Oil and minerals the way Kuwait and Australia are, so their economic growth is not that impressive in that sense and it makes sense why it hasn't translated into success in professional sports. Bangladesh is on the right path though but even then it's gonna take them another decade or two to be close what Vietnam and Thailand are right now and neither of those countries are anywhere near Japan and China economically.
It's a coping mechanism for the fans. Money can't make better players; you need to setup a proper infrastructure first. Pakistan/Ind/Sl all have established school and first-class cricket unlike Bangladesh. Since the team can't win a single match, economy is the only thing to brag about.
I don't know why people keep bragging about the Bangladeshi economy - yes, they've made many strides and have a relatively better economy than other South Asian countries but it's just relative and their economic growth is based off exports like garments and agrilcutural stuff, Bangladesh isn't some high value exporter like Japan and South Korea that exports automobiles, electronics, microchips etc nor are they an exporter of a high value natural resource like Oil and minerals the way Kuwait and Australia are, so their economic growth is not that impressive in that sense and it makes sense why it hasn't translated into success in professional sports. Bangladesh is on the right path though but even then it's gonna take them another decade or two to be close what Vietnam and Thailand are right now and neither of those countries are anywhere near Japan and China economically.
When 2 of India/SL/Pak teams stop playing cricket this will become true
Now the question should be is Bangladesh 4th best team in subcontinent .
Well this thread has certainly aged well.
Think the time when this thread was created make sense. BD had whitewashed Pak in 2015 home series, beaten SL & Pak to reach Asia cup final 2016, beat Afg & Pak in 2018 Asia cup etc. Though they could never breach the fortness named India but was beating other Asian sides pretty regularly in 2015-2018 period.
Mashrafe's retiement has derailed their cricket and Pakistan cricket only improved post Sarfraz Ahmed being removed. So current Pakistan team has left Bangladesh to the dust but at the time when this thread was created - MADE SENSE![]()
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