Is it high time to sack Mikel Arteta?

[The Bald Eagle]

Mikel Arteta's managerial performance at Arsenal has elicited mixed opinions. Critics argue he has underperformed, finishing 8th in his first two seasons and relying heavily on his board's support to keep his position despite these results. However, supporters highlight his impressive win percentage of approximately 59% and rapid improvement in team performance, noting he is the fastest manager to reach 100 league wins for Arsenal.

While Arsenal had improved a lot in last few years but the epic bottling of Arsenal under him, has made gunners a laughing stock. So is it high time to sack him for a probable another EPL trophy less year or would it be wise to keep persisting with him?

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Poll added Guys

 

[IMMY69]

Mikel Arteta's managerial performance at Arsenal has elicited mixed opinions. Critics argue he has underperformed, finishing 8th in his first two seasons and relying heavily on his board's support to keep his position despite these results. However, supporters highlight his impressive win percentage of approximately 59% and rapid improvement in team performance, noting he is the fastest manager to reach 100 league wins for Arsenal.

While Arsenal had improved a lot in last few years but the epic bottling of Arsenal under him, has made gunners a laughing stock. So is it high time to sack him for a probable another EPL trophy less year or would it be wise to keep persisting with him?

What have you done?!!??

No he should remain as manager until at least the end of this season.
Still plenty to play for this season

 

[The Bald Eagle]

What have you done?!!??

No he should remain as manager until at least the end of this season.
Still plenty to play for this season

Thinking ahead of time brother, I don't have faith in this mediocre guy

Better to eliminate him now rather then suffering later. Liverpool were expected to be in shambles this season but on top and this guy is in his 5th season now

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I don't think any team would be crazy enough to sack a manager when the team is top 4, in CL and other cups.

I'm not an Arsenal fan but he'd be my pick as manager at the start of next season which should be make or break for him.

I think this season Arsenal should aim for a domestic cup double, go deep into CL and take the league each game as it comes with a focus on maintaining top 4.

 

[Extra_Cover]

People raising voices over sacking Arteta are individuals with no long-term view. These individuals are typical representatives of knee-jerk reaction.

 

[KingKhanWC]

People raising voices over sacking Arteta are individuals with no long-term view. These individuals are typical representatives of knee-jerk reaction.

He’s had 5 years & spent a fortune .

You can’t sack him now , plenty to play for yet & other teams could have injuries & fall over .

However he’s learning on the job. Arsenal are one of the biggest clubs in the world. It was strange they never appointed a proven winner .

His signings are ok but should have been better. Taking sterling & not trusting him at all is one example.

If I was an Arsenal fan I would want him gone if he fails to win anything this season.

Arteta is smart , he’s signed a huge pay contract so won’t be going anywhere.

 

[Mamoon]

Absolute nonsense and thankfully the owners have better vision and understand of football than impatient supporters.

 

[Kianig89]

If Arsenal goes out of mind then they should sack Arteta otherwise it makes no sense

 

[Amjid Javed]

Time to move on from this failure at end of season. What a waste of 5 years, Arsenal are NOT winning PL or CL this season.

Hopefully the begrait cheerleaders worshiping this manager like messiah will dissapear as well.

 

[Amjid Javed]

People raising voices over sacking Arteta are individuals with no long-term view. These individuals are typical representatives of knee-jerk reaction.

5 years of failure, is not longterm?

Trust your broken failed process

 

[Amjid Javed]

Why don't you Copy paste your usual 3,000 word bhangra essays on how the messiah is leading the club to its greatest 5 years in club history.

These owners only care for CL money, but because your so obsessed with your hollow cheerleading you will always make excuses.

It's Arsenal FC, not bhangra Arteta FC

 

[Amjid Javed]

Arsenal in phase 5 and the in this base, saying fans who want him out aren't thinking longterm.

Seems kronkes have brainwashed the fan base into being happy with failure

phase 1 Slot and Marescha exposing Arteta as just a Poch, Rogers, Raneri (chelsea) level manager

 

[aboveandbeyond]

If Arteta doesn't win a Major (Champions league or the Premier League Title, come end of the season, he should move on.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Arsenal in phase 5 and the in this base, saying fans who want him out aren't thinking longterm.

Seems kronkes have brainwashed the fan base into being happy with failure

phase 1 Slot and Marescha exposing Arteta as just a Poch, Rogers, Raneri (chelsea) level manager

Spanish Pulis

 

[Amjid Javed]

I don't think any team would be crazy enough to sack a manager when the team is top 4, in CL and other cups.

I'm not an Arsenal fan but he'd be my pick as manager at the start of next season which should be make or break for him.

I think this season Arsenal should aim for a domestic cup double, go deep into CL and take the league each game as it comes with a focus on maintaining top 4.

What exactly will this failed bum manager do next season to finish above Liverpool, Chelsea or Man city.

Arsenal ain't winning the PL or CL this season.

Focus on a cup double? Arsenal have won 2 FA cup ties since they last won it.

Arsenal only chance of a trophy this season is the league cup and with Newcastle, Liverpool, Spurs, united still in it (as of today's date), winning that won't be easy either

Zero cup finals in 4 season and talk of cup double . Only double cups Arsenal are seeing are the Arsenal Bras the women's team wear.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Mikel Arteta names his most important rule for the Arsenal dressing room

The former midfielder spoke to TNT Sports to reveal some of the secrets behind his coaching success.

Arteta has won the FA Cup for the Gunners and turned them into serial title contenders since replacing Unai Emery in 2019.

Speaking to TNT Sports on a clip posted on X, formerly Twitter, the Arsenal boss played '20 questions' to allow fans to get to know him a bit better.

Among the questions was his response to 'What is the most important rule in the dressing room?'

The Spanish boss responded with a simple four-word answer: "Love for the game".

In the same video he revealed that he would love to relive his PSG debut, explaining that: "It was a moment that you realise you're becoming a professional footballer, but you also realise how much is still ahead of you and all the decisions you're going to have to make to get to where you want."

On his favourite dressing room moment as a manager or player, he replied: "We have so much, but for sure one of them, it doesn't have to be directly related to winning, but the atmosphere when everyone is laughing and having the feeling of a proper team".

He also revealed that he considers Michael Jordan to be the most successful sportsperson of all time, and fish and chips is his favourite British food.

Arteta also admitted he'd choose Ronaldo (the Brazil international), Diego Maradona and Pele as his three footballing dinner party guests.

In another clip with TNT Sports, Arteta spoke about his side's success at set-pieces. "We can still be much better and there's a lot of things to improve in that area" he said.

"A lot of people see set-pieces as separate, I don't. I fully disagree with that, I respect it because one thing is a consequence of another thing".

"I love to have good weapons, especially when you are very close to the opposition's goal".

Arteta has often been praised for his mindset-focussed coaching, lots of which came about from the All or Nothing documentary on Amazon Prime.

His side will bid to go into the top eight of the Champions League table with a win over Monaco on Wednesday.

Arsenal then host Everton at home on Saturday before facing Crystal Palace twice in a week - once for the League Cup quarter-final and once in the Premier League.

Mikel Arteta names his most important rule for the Arsenal dressing room

Arsenal boss Mikel Arteta has revealed his number one rule for the dressing room. The former midfielder spoke to TNT Sports to reveal some of the secrets behind his coaching success. Arteta has won…

talksport.com

 

[FearlessRoar]

Mikel Arteta responds to concern over Arsenal’s left side and reliance on Bukayo Saka​

Mikel Arteta maintains Arsenal still have a threat from the left side of their attack despite calls to strengthen in January and reduce the burden on Bukayo Saka.

The Gunners swept Monaco aside 3-0 midweek after another magnificent performance from Saka to take a commanding position in the Champions League.

But former Arsenal Women star Karen Carney has urged the Gunners to sign a new forward, especially one who can operate out wide.

“Either left wing or centre-forward,” Carney told TNT Sports. “You can’t just have Bukayo [Saka] on his own. It’s either got to be a left-winger or that centre forward.

But Arteta played down any imbalance to his team, insisting there is a “threat” from the left side.

“We certainly have that,” Arteta said. “It’s never going be the same because they have different qualities.

“We need to understand that we have different threats on all sides. If not we wouldn’t have scored the goals we did in the last few years.

“That [injuries] is something where we’ve had a lot of instability in recent years. Finding that stability and putting players who have that chemistry is very important.”

Arteta also discussed the potential for Gabriel Martinelli playing as a centre forward.

“He’s played a few times,” Arteta said. “I think Gabi is so good when he’s got the line in his back and he’s so comfortable on the left hand side.”

Carney highlighted how Liverpool had balance across their attack to topple Manchester City to win the Premier League title.

“City were so dominant in the Premier League, and the only team to stop them was Liverpool,” she added. “They had [Sadio] Mane and [Mohamed] Salah.

“Seeing that balance, I wouldn’t mind trying a real solid left-winger. There’s a lot of teams who are going to be after that centre-forward.

"I think getting a balance on the left side, actually, might be an option for Arsenal.

“They’re one player away, for me. Literally one player away. You’re so close. Go and get them.”

Mikel Arteta responds to concern over Arsenal’s left side

The Gunners have struggled for output from the left side this season and found more joy scoring from set-pieces

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Amjid Javed]

Arteta-pulis struggling vs dyche.

Time to move on from this manager

 

[KingKhanWC]

Guy thinks he can win premier league via set pieces .

Stoke still do

 

[The Bald Eagle]

No bro he is the best thing to happen to gunners, owners must be happy

Arteta-pulis struggling vs dyche.

Time to move on from this manager

 

[Amjid Javed]

No bro he is the best thing to happen to gunners, owners must be happy

Owners are happy as long as they get top 4.

Sooner he's sacked the better

 

[Amjid Javed]

So manager is now coming out and saying that club won't be busy in January.

Surprise surprise, knew this was coming.

Hes signed his new contract and knows his job is safe while he gets top 4

Yet his deluded cheerleaders think otherwise

 

[Mamoon]

Owners are happy as long as they get top 4.

Sooner he's sacked the better

Owners with no ambition to win the league will not approve spending 100m on a DM. Cut the crap.

 

[Mamoon]

I will judge Arteta at the end of the next season. This season is already over and if Arsenal can salvage anything out of this, i.e. 2nd place and a UCL semifinal, it will be a bonus.

I personally couldn’t care less about winning the domestic cups. They don’t mean anything.

However, he needs to upgrade the attack in the summer. Martinelli and Jesus need to be binned but if he continues with them next summer and Arsenal fall short again, then you can discuss his future.

Personally, I am convinced that Arsenal will upgrade the attack next summer and win the league.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Owners with no ambition to win the league will not approve spending 100m on a DM. Cut the crap.

Let's face it, its day light robbery. At this moment in time, the signings of Rice and Havertz has definitely not elevated the team to another level, it's still a case of what Arsenal where prior to the signings of these two.

 

[Amjid Javed]

rolling out the excuses..

But but they signed rice...

I've exposed your clueless zero ball knowledge for 5 years now when it comes to Arteta, I will be glad day he's sacked.

Your delusion will continue to cause your humiliation

 

[Amjid Javed]

Let's face it, its day light robbery. At this moment in time, the signings of Rice and Havertz has definitely not elevated the team to another level, it's still a case of what Arsenal where prior to the signings of these two.

Arteta signed two in havertz and jesus for over 100M combined and decided to give them 270K and 300K a week

This clueless manager will leave the club's wage bill in a worse mess then when he took over

 

[Amjid Javed]

Keep changing your time frames for review. Your same who said if Arsenal finished 3rd that would be regression etc..

Your lies, contradictions, cowardice and delusion in full display

 

[Mamoon]

Let's face it, its day light robbery. At this moment in time, the signings of Rice and Havertz has definitely not elevated the team to another level, it's still a case of what Arsenal where prior to the signings of these two.

Daylight robbery is spending £260m on Antony, Onana, Casemiro and Mount

Rice and Havertz are both quality players who would walk into the United team with their eyes closed.

 

[Mamoon]

Arteta signed two in havertz and jesus for over 100M combined and decided to give them 270K and 300K a week

This clueless manager will leave the club's wage bill in a worse mess then when he took over

This shows your ignorance. Jesus was signed in 2022 just after Arsenal finished 5th. He was a good signing for a club that was fighting for top 4.

However, Arsenal outgrew him very quickly and he was left behind. He is not good enough for a team that is aiming to win the league and that is why City let him go in the first place.

Jesus is not good enough for Arsenal anymore because Arsenal playing at a higher level now, but he was a good signing for the time.

When a team raises its level, certain players will be left behind. It doesn’t mean they were poor signings at the time.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Daylight robbery is spending £260m on Antony, Onana, Casemiro and Mount

Rice and Havertz are both quality players who would walk into the United team with their eyes closed.

Yep. At least i admit it. It's high time you admit, Artetas race has ran its course, A change is for the betterment of your team, otherwise, sooner or later, he will lose the dressing room if they fail again.

 

[Amjid Javed]

a with zero ball knowledge lecturing others about ignorance. Don't quit your day job.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Yep. At least i admit it. It's high time you admit, Artetas race has ran its course, A change is for the betterment of your team, otherwise, sooner or later, he will lose the dressing room if they fail again.

He would rather stay in denial and keep being delusional, then relinquish his cheerleader pom poms and admits he's wrong

 

[Mamoon]

Yep. At least i admit it. It's high time you admit, Artetas race has ran its course, A change is for the betterment of your team, otherwise, sooner or later, he will lose the dressing room if they fail again.

Just because you repeat your ignorance it doesn’t mean I have to agree with you.

 

[Amjid Javed]

It's in the bag

Arteta is best young manager

Arteta will win 2 titles in next 3,4,5,10 years..

I'm not judging Arteta till end of next season

Arteta will win title next season..

Imagine coming up with all this delusional nonsense, then calling others ignorant

 

[KingKhanWC]

I will judge Arteta at the end of the next season. This season is already over and if Arsenal can salvage anything out of this, i.e. 2nd place and a UCL semifinal, it will be a bonus.

I personally couldn’t care less about winning the domestic cups. They don’t mean anything.

However, he needs to upgrade the attack in the summer. Martinelli and Jesus need to be binned but if he continues with them next summer and Arsenal fall short again, then you can discuss his future.

Personally, I am convinced that Arsenal will upgrade the attack next summer and win the league.

It’s always nice to see a fresh prediction on Sunday morning .

You feel Arsenal are 2 players away from winning the league . You have a £70m attacker , on 300k . He was a marquee Arteta signing . Who are these attackers & why not buy in January.

City will likely be back next season. Chelsea , Liverpool, will be stronger too .

Arteta had his 5 years , plenty of money but has produced a limited squad . The football his team are playing is dull. Arsenal would be better off bringing in a manager who plays watchable football & has a history of winning trophies.

Michael Arteta really should be managing Woolwich , learn his job before moving up to this level .

 

[Mamoon]

It’s always nice to see a fresh prediction on Sunday morning .

You feel Arsenal are 2 players away from winning the league . You have a £70m attacker , on 300k . He was a marquee Arteta signing . Who are these attackers & why not buy in January.

City will likely be back next season. Chelsea , Liverpool, will be stronger too .

Arteta had his 5 years , plenty of money but has produced a limited squad . The football his team are playing is dull. Arsenal would be better off bringing in a manager who plays watchable football & has a history of winning trophies.

Michael Arteta really should be managing Woolwich , learn his job before moving up to this level .

His name is Mikel not Michael. He is Spanish not English. I know you struggle with spellings but Mikel is easier to spell than Michael.

Dull football etc. is subjective nonsense. There are no rules for how football should be played. Different people can enjoy different styles of football. It means nothing.

Arteta took Arsenal from 8th to a title contender. He made Arsenal relevant again and put them on the map once more. He raised the standards of the club.

He did what Wenger couldn’t do in his last 10 years and what Emery couldn’t do during his 1.5 years at the club. This season is a disappointment but it is too early to make sweeping statements. These things happen in football.

As far as who Arsenal should buy, well I don’t think they need to spend big money on a traditional number 9 because Havertz does a good job. The real issue is LW - Martinelli is a terrible footballer and Trossard isn’t dynamic enough.

It is difficult to do business in January but there is plenty of quality wingers in the market and Arsenal should be looking at them in the summer. Going into another season with the Brazilian Walcott as first-choice LW will be unacceptable.

Jesus needs to be replaced because he offers nothing even as a backup. Arsenal should look at decent number 9’s in the £40-50m bracket and spent £70m+ on a winger and they will be good to go for next season.

Martinelli scored 8 goals and 5 assists in 44 matches across all competitions last season. That is absolutely awful, and it is very disappointed that Arteta and Edu didn’t upgrade on him in the summer.

Yes they tried to do it by signing Williams and briefly flirted with Gordon, but there are plenty of other players who can easily be an upgrade on Martinelli.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Arteta has done this...

Arteta has done that..

Worship a failed messiah.

I'm going to enjoy watching you continue display your clueless zero ball knowledge

 

[Amjid Javed]

It’s always nice to see a fresh prediction on Sunday morning .

You feel Arsenal are 2 players away from winning the league . You have a £70m attacker , on 300k . He was a marquee Arteta signing . Who are these attackers & why not buy in January.

City will likely be back next season. Chelsea , Liverpool, will be stronger too .

Arteta had his 5 years , plenty of money but has produced a limited squad . The football his team are playing is dull. Arsenal would be better off bringing in a manager who plays watchable football & has a history of winning trophies.

Michael Arteta really should be managing Woolwich , learn his job before moving up to this level .

This is so invested in the manager, like a loved up teenager, that he will just keep coming up with new predictions, which will fail just like the old ones.

Sadly Arsenal fan base is littered with these no standard losers

 

[KingKhanWC]

His name is Mikel not Michael. He is Spanish not English. I know you struggle with spellings but Mikel is easier to spell than Michael.

Dull football etc. is subjective nonsense. There are no rules for how football should be played. Different people can enjoy different styles of football. It means nothing.

Arteta took Arsenal from 8th to a title contender. He made Arsenal relevant again and put them on the map once more. He raised the standards of the club.

He did what Wenger couldn’t do in his last 10 years and what Emery couldn’t do during his 1.5 years at the club. This season is a disappointment but it is too early to make sweeping statements. These things happen in football.

As far as who Arsenal should buy, well I don’t think they need to spend big money on a traditional number 9 because Havertz does a good job. The real issue is LW - Martinelli is a terrible footballer and Trossard isn’t dynamic enough.

It is difficult to do business in January but there is plenty of quality wingers in the market and Arsenal should be looking at them in the summer. Going into another season with the Brazilian Walcott as first-choice LW will be unacceptable.

Jesus needs to be replaced because he offers nothing even as a backup. Arsenal should look at decent number 9’s in the £40-50m bracket and spent £70m+ on a winger and they will be good to go for next season.

Martinelli scored 8 goals and 5 assists in 44 matches across all competitions last season. That is absolutely awful, and it is very disappointed that Arteta and Edu didn’t upgrade on him in the summer.

Yes they tried to do it by signing Williams and briefly flirted with Gordon, but there are plenty of other players who can easily be an upgrade on Martinelli.

In England it’s Michael but you’ve illustrated my point , you’re a fan of the manger not the club .

Football is entertainment, people pay good money to watch their team entertain them & win after spending so much . Arteta is doing neither atm.

You give Give Big Sam 5/6 years & 600m he’ll challenge too in a couple of seasons .

Time so far has showed Arteta is limited as a manager in many ways , evident in the pitch .

from 8th to 2nd and back down again . If he finishes outside top 4 will you take down his poster in your room & agree he should be fired ?

 

[KingKhanWC]

This is so invested in the manager, like a loved up teenager, that he will just keep coming up with new predictions, which will fail just like the old ones.

Sadly Arsenal fan base is littered with these no standard losers

I’d say this attitude is a minority now among the Arsenal fan base . Those Arsenal fans who understand football question his details, substitutions , team selection, tactics , lack of style of play . Arteta seems to be all over the place . He’s trying to run before he can walk . His job is to win & entertain but seems more focused on proving he’s some sort of new Pep.

 

[Mamoon]

In England it’s Michael but you’ve illustrated my point , you’re a fan of the manger not the club .

I’m a fan of the club first and foremost and I will support him until I feel that he is the right manager for the club. I will not change my views on him just because people like you who don’t anything about football argue otherwise.

You are the same person who claimed that Arteta will be sacked by 2021 and that Arsenal will never be a title contender under him. He proved you wrong and he will prove you wrong again by winning the Premier League which you think he is not capable of winning.

Football is entertainment, people pay good money to watch their team entertain them & win after spending so much . Arteta is doing neither atm.

Once again, entertainment factor, attractive football etc. is subjective nonsense. It is not written anywhere which style of football is more attractive than others. It is not universal truth.

Arteta’s Arsenal scored 91 goals last season. No defensive coach will score 91 goals in 38 matches.

You give Give Big Sam 5/6 years & 600m he’ll challenge too in a couple of seasons .

Why would I or anyone give Big Sam 5/6 years and 600m? Not every manager is cut for the big clubs. There is a reason why in 30 years, not a single top club has hired him.

If Arteta leaves Arsenal today, he will have no shortage of suitors and he will end up at a top club because that is his level as a manager.

Time so far has showed Arteta is limited as a manager in many ways , evident in the pitch .

from 8th to 2nd and back down again . If he finishes outside top 4 will you take down his poster in your room & agree he should be fired ?

Arsenal have continuously improved under him each season. Without Arteta, Arsenal would not have challenged for the league in the last two seasons and would have been at the same level as United. However, such dips happen.

As a Liverpool fan, you should know that better than most after watching the two ugly seasons (2020-21, 2022-23) under Klopp with squads capable of winning the league.

Arsenal will not finish outside top 4. They will finish 2nd or 3rd and that is not a bad outcome. It is not great but it is not bad, and the only reason it is not great is because of Arteta himself. He has raised the expectations.

The same Arsenal fans who celebrated 4th place like a trophy for years are now unhappy with finishing 2nd and 3rd because Arteta has made them dream of winning the Premier League again.

I will only entertain discussion over his future at the end of next season if Arsenal fall short again and also don’t do the required business in the summer.

 

[Amjid Javed]

In England it’s Michael but you’ve illustrated my point , you’re a fan of the manger not the club .

Football is entertainment, people pay good money to watch their team entertain them & win after spending so much . Arteta is doing neither atm.

You give Give Big Sam 5/6 years & 600m he’ll challenge too in a couple of seasons .

Time so far has showed Arteta is limited as a manager in many ways , evident in the pitch .

from 8th to 2nd and back down again . If he finishes outside top 4 will you take down his poster in your room & agree he should be fired ?

The whole he took club from 8th to 3nd is a load of bakwas, it's just Arteta fan boys trying trying to dress up things as some sort of miracle.

Emery finished 5th season before Arteta took over. So all this bhangra over 8th place, when Arteta took the club backwards (including out of Europe for 1st time in 20 years), then acting like 8th was the starting point

100% spot on this things its Arteta FC, no player or manager is bigger then the club.

This guy will continue his daily worshipping of Arteta posters, like the loser that he is.

 

[Amjid Javed]

But but Arteta will win PL

But but big clubs all want Arteta

But but he's best young manager

clueless and delusional as always.

The amount of tears running down this face, no wonder he can't see properly

 

[Amjid Javed]

Liverpool won the PL, CL and almost a quadruple and your comparing it to Arsenal

Arteta is a Rogers, poch, raneri (Chelsea) level manager

Liverpool were capable, they actually won stuff before their bad seasons

 

[KingKhanWC]

Liverpool won the PL, CL and almost a quadruple and your comparing it to Arsenal

Arteta is a Rogers, poch, raneri (Chelsea) level manager

Liverpool were capable, they actually won stuff before their bad seasons

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He doesn’t understand Liverpool won it all & we’re transitioning to a new team .

For him Arsenal are now transitioning after an FA cup & charity shield double .

 

[Amjid Javed]

He doesn’t understand Liverpool won it all & we’re transitioning to a new team .

For him Arsenal are now transitioning after an FA cup & charity shield double .

The guys is a bakwas excuse merchant, any little excuse he can find he will roll it out.

If he had any dignity, self respect or football knowledge. He would admit he's wrong, instead he will Continue to embarrass himself with his excuses.

The fact he's delusion enough to think any other big club would take him and put up with dame failure, again shows how clueless this guy is.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Absolutely embarrassing

 

[Mamoon]

The whole he took club from 8th to 3nd is a load of bakwas, it's just Arteta fan boys trying trying to dress up things as some sort of miracle.

Emery finished 5th season before Arteta took over. So all this bhangra over 8th place, when Arteta took the club backwards (including out of Europe for 1st time in 20 years), then acting like 8th was the starting point

100% spot on this things its Arteta FC, no player or manager is bigger then the club.

This guy will continue his daily worshipping of Arteta posters, like the loser that he is.

Arsenal were languishing at 8th when Emery was sacked in November 2019.

 

[Mamoon]

He doesn’t understand Liverpool won it all & we’re transitioning to a new team .

For him Arsenal are now transitioning after an FA cup & charity shield double .

That is just an excuse to cover up Klopp’s failure.

Between 2020 (title win) and 2022, only Mane left the club. I didn’t know replacing one player means “transitioning to a new team”.

Klopp has a joke of a legacy in English football. One PL win in empty stadiums with a group of players that were capable of winning at least three PL titles.

There is no doubt that Arteta will win multiple PLs by the time his tenure at Arsenal comes to an end.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Areta had plenty of time to salvage that season and didn't. Then proceeded to take Arsenal out of Europe following season (1st time I'm 20 years). howe (Newcastle) and Emery (villa) tool over teams in worse league positions and finished better at end of those seasons they took over.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Imagine mocking klopp as a failure. then celebrating 5 seasons of failure and calling it clubs greatest era in history.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Absolutely embarrassing

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Spent 700 million for the title of Spanish Pulis.

What a Genius.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Spent 700 million for the title of Spanish Pulis.

What a Genius.

Imagine having same PL legacy as Brendon Rogers and then proclaiming some as best young manager

 

[Mamoon]

Areta had plenty of time to salvage that season and didn't. Then proceeded to take Arsenal out of Europe following season (1st time I'm 20 years). howe (Newcastle) and Emery (villa) tool over teams in worse league positions and finished better at end of those seasons they took over.


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It was much easier for Howe and Emery to lift NUFC and AVFC from their respective positions than it was for Arteta to lift Arsenal. Taking Arsenal from 8th to top 4 is harder than taking a club from relegation form to top half of the table.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

It was much easier for Howe and Emery to lift NUFC and AVFC from their respective positions than it was for Arteta to lift Arsenal. Taking Arsenal from 8th to top 4 is harder than taking a club from relegation form to top half of the table.

How is it more difficult from taking a side from 8th to top 4, after spending 700 million?

And please, don't use UTD as your benchmark for spending, i agree, our recruitment has been awful.

 

[MK7Z]

What was the need of this particular thread when there are like 79000 posts on the Arsenal thread discussing pretty much the same thing every other day

 

[Amjid Javed]

so supposedly Arteta taking over from Emery in 8th (according to you) and finishing 8th. Is a better achievement then Emery and howe finishing higher than 8th after taking over teams in lower positions.

Absolutely

My point was taking over a club in trouble and that season finishing higher.

the fact you

A) can't read
B) Can't comprehend that

What has Arteta finishing top 4 got to do with the season he took over from Emery.

 

[KingKhanWC]

That is just an excuse to cover up Klopp’s failure.

Between 2020 (title win) and 2022, only Mane left the club. I didn’t know replacing one player means “transitioning to a new team”.

Klopp has a joke of a legacy in English football. One PL win in empty stadiums with a group of players that were capable of winning at least three PL titles.

There is no doubt that Arteta will win multiple PLs by the time his tenure at Arsenal comes to an end.

You’re sat in Peshawar , never been to an Arsenal game , never played football at any level but because you watch 2 min highlights on YouTube you believe you have football understanding, you obviously don’t .

To even suggest a manager who ain’t won sweet fa is better than Klopp should tell you everyone sees you as a form of a entertainment and no more when reading your views on football and Arteta

You have no kangaroo about tactics or how the beautiful game & it seems

Arsenal is a great club , it deserves better

 

[Mamoon]

You’re sat in Peshawar , never been to an Arsenal game , never played football at any level but because you watch 2 min highlights on YouTube you believe you have football understanding, you obviously don’t .

To even suggest a manager who ain’t won sweet fa is better than Klopp should tell you everyone sees you as a form of a entertainment and no more when reading your views on football and Arteta

You have no kangaroo about tactics or how the beautiful game & it seems

Arsenal is a great club , it deserves better

Making personal attacks as usual when you cannot answer the question. You are from Birmingham but support Liverpool. Are you ashamed of supporting Birmingham City or Aston Villa? Glory hunters like you have no value.

I called out your lame excuse that Liverpool were in transition when they had two poor seasons, no they were not. Klopp was tactically exposed and in both seasons he had the squad to win the league.

It is a fact that Klopp has underachieved in the league given the players that he had at his disposal. He could never get the better of Pep apart from one season where City kind of fell apart.

No wonder he did an embarrassing open bus parade for winning FA and League Cup.

I have watched more football than you ever will, but I have not watched Arsenal’s last two matches because I was busy. This is why I didn’t comment much on the positive and negative aspects.

I don’t need lectures on football from the likes of you. I am confident that Arsenal is in the right hands and I have no doubt that Arteta will eventually win the league.

 

[Mamoon]

How is it more difficult from taking a side from 8th to top 4, after spending 700 million?

And please, don't use UTD as your benchmark for spending, i agree, our recruitment has been awful.

It is difficult because you are competing with clubs that have comparable and even more financial muscle.

For Newcastle, improving rapidly from where they were was easier because they have a lot of money and clubs who are in the bottom half of the table do not have comparable money. Therefore, they were able to sign better quality players and quickly ascend up the table.

You could have dragged Newcastle out of the relegation zone backed by Saudi money, let alone a good manager like Howe. However, once Newcastle reached the top 6, they stuttered and found it difficult to sustain that level because they were now competing with much higher quality and clubs with a lot of money.

Similarly, Gerrard had stank up the place at Villa and they found themselves in a position that was far below the level of players that they had. Emery is a better coach than Gerrard and combined that with good investment, it wasn’t difficult for him to move Villa up the table.

The real challenge for him is this season where he has to maintain the expectations and balance both Europe and domestic football and he is failing as expected because he doesn’t have the chops to manage big expectations.

For Arteta, the situation was different. They were lurking outside of the top 6 and the challenge was to transform into title contenders.

However, the squad was not good enough to do so and he was up against competition like City, Liverpool, United, Chelsea and Spurs, who all had better squads and more money (except maybe Liverpool and Spurs) so it was a much harder challenge for Arsenal to transform themselves into title contenders in that environment.

This is what I have tried explaining to @Amjid Javed as well but as usual, logical points sail above his head.

 

[Kroll]

I hope he stays so I can continue to laugh at **** and their delusions of grandeur.

 

[Amjid Javed]

I hope he stays so I can continue to laugh at **** and their delusions of grandeur.

When you so heavily invest I something like a loved up teenager. Admitting your wrong is difficult.

This guy would rather keep being humilated.

Both slot and Marescha in their 1st seasons are embarrassing Arteta, this is now going to roll out every excuse he can.

 

[Mamoon]

When you so heavily invest I something like a loved up teenager. Admitting your wrong is difficult.

This guy would rather keep being humilated.

Both slot and Marescha in their 1st seasons are embarrassing Arteta, this is now going to roll out every excuse he can.

Slot inherited a team that is good enough to win the league. He has not performed any miracles; he has got them playing at their level. It’s just that Klopp underachieved so much that he has made Slot look better than he is.

Marescha inherited a much stronger squad that what Arteta inherited from Emery, so again no comparison.

 

[Amjid Javed]

But but slot and Marescha inherited better teams ..

Excuses after excuse.. no wonder you've run off to the cricket forum.

Il deal with your nonsense on here, also deal with the bumrah fan boys over there at same time.

 

[Mamoon]

But but slot and Marescha inherited better teams ..

Excuses after excuse.. no wonder you've run off to the cricket forum.

Il deal with your nonsense on here, also deal with the bumrah fan boys over there at same time.

It is a fact. You don’t like it so you’re calling it an excuse, but even a monkey can see that there is no comparison between the squads Slot and Marescha inherited compared to the one Arteta did.

Slot and Marescha would have failed to do the rebuild job that Arteta did at Arsenal.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Slot and Marescha have shown you can take over decent squads and compete straight away.

You harp on about how Arteta now has a squad to win titles. Reality is he's up against 2 managers who have similar squads and he'd getting schooled.

What state Arteta took over in is irrelevant.

Because according to you, Arsenal have a title wining squad right now, so quit with the crap excuses.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Ok let's deal with facts and what has been said.

- You call klopp a failure because of underachieving with a squad capable of winning title

- you then say Arteta should only be judged based on seasons where he's had a team capable of winning title (last 2 seasons + this one)

- you then say that Slot and Marescha had better squads.

So the starting point at the beginning of the season, according to what you have said Is

Arsenal had a team capable of winning a title

Slot inherited a squad capable of winning title

Marescha in reality took over a squad capable of top 4

So what dies Arteta having to rebuild have to do with anything? Absolutely fk all. Not every manager is going to take a club over in same state.

Reality is at start of season Arteta had similar quality of resources of player as Slot and Marescha and he's getting schooled

So your whole Slot and Marescha didn't have to rebuild has no credibility at all.

Your Own views have come back to slap you in the face

 

[Mamoon]

Ok let's deal with facts and what has been said.

- You call klopp a failure because of underachieving with a squad capable of winning title

- you then say Arteta should only be judged based on seasons where he's had a team capable of winning title (last 2 seasons + this one)

- you then say that Slot and Marescha had better squads.

So the starting point at the beginning of the season, according to what you have said Is

Arsenal had a team capable of winning a title

Slot inherited a squad capable of winning title

Marescha in reality took over a squad capable of top 4

So what dies Arteta having to rebuild have to do with anything? Absolutely fk all. Not every manager is going to take a club over in same state.

Reality is at start of season Arteta had similar quality of resources of player as Slot and Marescha and he's getting schooled

So your whole Slot and Marescha didn't have to rebuild has no credibility at all.

Your Own views have come back to slap you in the face

So what? You are allowed to have one bad season. Arsenal have suffered due to injuries and poor refereeing decisions.

Injuries have huge impact. Look at City. They have collapsed without Rodri in spite of having the most expensive squad in Europe.

Arsenal fans should not panic after one below par season. This is why any discussion over Arteta’s future will not be entertained until the end of next season. For now, Arteta is unsackable.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Oh dear as expected yet another excuse.

If its a so called 1 bad season. Then stake your PP membership on next season. As supposedly this is a blip under Arteta.

So if Arteta does not win the 25/26 PL title you either retire from PP or we get the MODs to ban you forever.


None of this next 2 in 3,4,5 years..

 

[aboveandbeyond]

So what? You are allowed to have one bad season. Arsenal have suffered due to injuries and poor refereeing decisions.

Injuries have huge impact. Look at City. They have collapsed without Rodri in spite of having the most expensive squad in Europe.

Arsenal fans should not panic after one below par season. This is why any discussion over Arteta’s future will not be entertained until the end of next season. For now, Arteta is unsackable.

There's still Majority of the season remaining, you've got your injured players back, so what's stopping Arsenal from challenging for the title, when City are completely shot of confidence?

Deep down you know Arteta is your Achilles heel in big moments.

 

[Amjid Javed]

There's still Majority of the season remaining, you've got your injured players back, so what's stopping Arsenal from challenging for the title, when City are completely shot of confidence?

Deep down you know Arteta is your Achilles heel in big moments.

He's on full denial mode, it's like if a partner has cheated on you but you keep being delusional that everything is alright

He will make new excuses every day for failure.

The guys thinks club is called Arteta FC

 

[Mamoon]

There's still Majority of the season remaining, you've got your injured players back, so what's stopping Arsenal from challenging for the title, when City are completely shot of confidence?

Deep down you know Arteta is your Achilles heel in big moments.

Arsenal have lost too much ground. It is not in their hands anymore so I don’t have expectations from this season anymore. I’m already looking forward to next season.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Pep wins 4 titles in a row then a bad season, Artets 4 trophyless seasons in a row and according to a certain its the same thing

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Arsenal have lost too much ground. It is not in their hands anymore so I don’t have expectations from this season anymore. I’m already looking forward to next season.

Are you for real! Theres 66 points up for grabs!

Clearly you don't have the confidence in Artetas ability, otherwise this Flip flopping would not exist.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Are you for real! Theres 66 points up for grabs!

Clearly you don't have the confidence in Artetas ability, otherwise this Flip flopping would not exist.

A cheerleader with no faith, he should have his pom poms taken off him

 

[Mamoon]

Are you for real! Theres 66 points up for grabs!

Clearly you don't have the confidence in Artetas ability, otherwise this Flip flopping would not exist.

Nonsense.

It is not in Arsenal's hands anymore. Liverpool are 6 pts ahead with a game in hand, so Arsenal will have to be perfect for the remaining 22 matches and Liverpool will also need to slip, so the chances are very low.

If I did not have faith in Arteta, I would call for his head. However, I am convinced that Arsenal will win multiple league titles under Arteta in the coming years.

 

[ads101]

2022/23 season Arsenal played free flowing attacking football. A complete choke unfortunately, Arsenal should have won the league. I think it was a record of how far they were ahead and not winning the league.

2023/24 Arteta tried to tighten up defensively. This compromised the attack early on and it was difficult to figure out how to use Havertz. After the first quarter of the season it was performing defensively and offensively well with the joint highest goal difference. It’s just by the time he figured it out it was too late and Man City went on a great run.

In both last two seasons Arsenal played good football, improved from the previous year and looked to be building. I don’t think it would have been wise to sack Arteta then.

Seasons before 2022, Arteta didn’t achieve much substantially. This season Arsenal have underperformed.

If Arsenal aren’t improving, you can make a case for sacking the manager. This season Arsenal have regressed and even style of play looks way worse. I’d give till end of season and make a decision. But it’s definitely worth thinking about now.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

2022/23 season Arsenal played free flowing attacking football. A complete choke unfortunately, Arsenal should have won the league. I think it was a record of how far they were ahead and not winning the league.

2023/24 Arteta tried to tighten up defensively. This compromised the attack early on and it was difficult to figure out how to use Havertz. After the first quarter of the season it was performing defensively and offensively well with the joint highest goal difference. It’s just by the time he figured it out it was too late and Man City went on a great run.

In both last two seasons Arsenal played good football, improved from the previous year and looked to be building. I don’t think it would have been wise to sack Arteta then.

Seasons before 2022, Arteta didn’t achieve much substantially. This season Arsenal have underperformed.

If Arsenal aren’t improving, you can make a case for sacking the manager. This season Arsenal have regressed and even style of play looks way worse. I’d give till end of season and make a decision. But it’s definitely worth thinking about now.

Bro let me summarize your post. Arsenal bottled it under Arteta