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Is SuryaKumar Yadav the most overrated/overhyped player ever?

its funny how many of you have to insult your very own even though the thread isnt even about babar

I am not a Pakistani and you really need to rephrase your thread title if you want to avoid Babar mention.

SKY is nowhere near as overrated as other names mentioned in the thread, specially Babar.
 
its funny how many of you have to insult your very own even though the thread isnt even about babar

Let’s say I rate player x and then I open a thread and claim player y is overrated, then everyone will use the player x I rate as a benchmark.

But as mentioned above, the issue is you’ve asked whether SKY is the most overrated player. The answer to that as we all know deep down is Babar, he’s the most overrated T20I batsman.
 
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If scoring against minnows is so easy why did Buttler fail against Ireland yesterday or Rizbar against Zimbabwe today?

An overrated player cannot have 34 innings with an average close to 40 and s/r of 177. He has 50s India, England, west Indies, UAE, australia and SL. He hasn't played in SA, NZ, Bangladesh yet so no 50+ scores there.

He has 50+ scores against England, Australia, SA, WI, SL, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Netherlands.

SKy hits a 6 every 10 balls and a 4 every 6 balls he faces. He hits 3 4s and 2 6s on an average per match whiel maintaining a s/r of 177. He scores a 50+ score once in every 3 matches.

Just because he has failed vs Pakistan will make him overrated or overhyped then I am at loss of words. These stats that have been mentioned are almost superhuman. But you can only see the truth when you remove your prism of bias. If any Pak batsmen had such a record how would you rate him then?

Another important factor to be considered is he isn't an opener where is has 120 balls and take him own sweet time to get going. He comes at 4 with the situation being to go after the bowling from the 1st ball. No wonder he started his t20 international career with a 6 off his first ball of the bowling of Archer.

I have not compared SKY with babar or any other player whilst putting forward his stats. Maintaining 40 avg at 177 s/r isn't easy and he will walk into any team around the world.
 
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I am not a Pakistani and you really need to rephrase your thread title if you want to avoid Babar mention.

SKY is nowhere near as overrated as other names mentioned in the thread, specially Babar.

How is he not over rated. Why not talk about that instead of bringing babar in.

Thread title isn't who is over rated. Its is sky black?
 
Let’s say I rate player x and then I open a thread and claim player y is overrated, then everyone will use the player x I rate as a benchmark.

But as mentioned above, the issue is you’ve asked whether SKY is the most overrated player. The answer to that as we all know deep down is Babar, he’s the most overrated T20I batsman.

What if I don't rate player x. Issue is, many can't argue on sky, he bashed a minnow today and they went to the extent to say that minnow is as good as india :)).

They are bringing babar just to score points. Thread isn't about babar.
 
If scoring against minnows is so easy why did Buttler fail against Ireland yesterday or Rizbar against Zimbabwe today?

An overrated player cannot have 34 innings with an average close to 40 and s/r of 177. He has 50s India, England, west Indies, UAE, australia and SL. He hasn't played in SA, NZ, Bangladesh yet so no 50+ scores there.

He has 50+ scores against England, Australia, SA, WI, SL, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Netherlands.

SKy hits a 6 every 10 balls and a 4 every 6 balls he faces. He hits 3 4s and 2 6s on an average per match whiel maintaining a s/r of 177. He scores a 50+ score once in every 3 matches.

Just because he has failed vs Pakistan will make him overrated or overhyped then I am at loss of words. These stats that have been mentioned are almost superhuman. But you can only see the truth when you remove your prism of bias. If any Pak batsmen had such a record how would you rate him then?

Another important factor to be considered is he isn't an opener where is has 120 balls and take him own sweet time to get going. He comes at 4 with the situation being to go after the bowling from the 1st ball. No wonder he started his t20 international career with a 6 off his first ball of the bowling of Archer.

I have not compared SKY with babar or any other player whilst putting forward his stats. Maintaining 40 avg at 177 s/r isn't easy and he will walk into any team around the world.

Like I said before, Jonathan trott had the purple patch which got exposed quite quickly.

SKY has thrown his wicket to good bowling. England didn't even play mark wood, and Chris Jordan wasn't the same bowler. Yet he feel too Jordan 2 games.

Pakistan is a team that matters at the end of day.

Also whether pakistani batsman had such stats or not, we had a bid ali for test and everyone need it was just a purple match. We have imam up haq in odis.

He might be a decent player, but the thing is, indian fans go gaga when mentioning him.

Reminds me varun Chakraborty hype last year.
 
IMO, he is.

They say he is a 360 player, but it would seem to apply only in sub continental batting tracks or when playing against a minnow team in Sena.

Hooda >> SKY
 
Like I said before, Jonathan trott had the purple patch which got exposed quite quickly.

SKY has thrown his wicket to good bowling. England didn't even play mark wood, and Chris Jordan wasn't the same bowler. Yet he feel too Jordan 2 games.

Pakistan is a team that matters at the end of day.

Also whether pakistani batsman had such stats or not, we had a bid ali for test and everyone need it was just a purple match. We have imam up haq in odis.

He might be a decent player, but the thing is, indian fans go gaga when mentioning him.

Reminds me varun Chakraborty hype last year.

As I said above someone like Haider Ali has played 32 T20Is. Surya has played 34 and has already become a top 3 bat in that format in the world.

So regardless of what barometer you have personally to judge a player’s talent, it is common sense why he would be hyped.

On top of that he has been performing in the same fashion in 2-3 IPL’s back to back. He wasn’t the Indian team management’s first choice a few months back . They have tried to fit in Pant, Shreyas Iyer and even the idea of opening with Virat and Rohit and push Rahul to 4. Even guys like Samson etc were given opportunities. He was on the wrong side of 20’s- early 30’s so he was being ignored but he tore down the doors to become indispensable.

You don’t rate or like SKY is a different matter but it’s no rocket science why he has earned respect or the hype he is getting.
 
its funny how many of you have to insult your very own even though the thread isnt even about babar

The title is Is SuryaKumar Yadav the most overrated/overhyped player ever?.. so some think he's not but babar is.. So we can mention all the players who we thiknk most overrated players!
 
Like I said before, Jonathan trott had the purple patch which got exposed quite quickly.

SKY has thrown his wicket to good bowling. England didn't even play mark wood, and Chris Jordan wasn't the same bowler. Yet he feel too Jordan 2 games.

Pakistan is a team that matters at the end of day.

Also whether pakistani batsman had such stats or not, we had a bid ali for test and everyone need it was just a purple match. We have imam up haq in odis.

He might be a decent player, but the thing is, indian fans go gaga when mentioning him.

Reminds me varun Chakraborty hype last year.

Now you are clutching at straws. In one post you said why are people bringing up BA but you yourself brought Trott into the debate. Atleast Ba plays t20s but Trott was a test player who retired due to mental stress.

As for purple patch. Every cricketer goes through a purple patch as well as a loss of form too. Kohli lost form for 2 years in fact. Yes, SKY throws his wicket because he plays a high risk game hence his payoff is higher too. He strikes at 177 unlike some players who strike in 120s but play for rankings and avgs. Dont know what match you saw but in SKY debut match the bowlers were Mark wood, Jordan and Archer. He started off with a 6 off Archer in his 1st international ball.

Yes, Pakistan is a team that matters. But that doesn't mean just because he didn't score against them in 4 innings he becomes the most overhyped player ever. BA has failed against India 3 games on the trot so does that mean he is useless? Both Babar n Rizwan have failed miserably in Australia so what doies that say about them?

Again you are comparing apples with oranges. Since you couldn't find anyone who could match SKY's stats you are bringing up test and odi players. Also both abid and imam are openers whose role is different from SKY. They both can only dream scoring a 25 ball 60 even against a local club. SKy meanwhile has the highest s/r not only in India but the world.

Indian fans go gaga over him because there hasn't been a player before who scored a 50 once every 3rd game at a s/r well over 150.

In my post I deliberately mentioned that I am not comparing him with anybody but who replied back throwing names of Trott, Abid and Imam while also asking others not to bring up BA.

SKy holds the record for reaching 1000 runs facing the least amount of balls. Considering he plays at the death most of the times its a terrific record.

Please counter to his stats so far without comparing test and odi players or even bowlers like Varun (who anyways didn't have the same following or hype as SKY). Not just fans every professional cricketer (both current and ex) has only praise for him unlike baised fans.
 
Now you are clutching at straws. In one post you said why are people bringing up BA but you yourself brought Trott into the debate. Atleast Ba plays t20s but Trott was a test player who retired due to mental stress.

As for purple patch. Every cricketer goes through a purple patch as well as a loss of form too. Kohli lost form for 2 years in fact. Yes, SKY throws his wicket because he plays a high risk game hence his payoff is higher too. He strikes at 177 unlike some players who strike in 120s but play for rankings and avgs. Dont know what match you saw but in SKY debut match the bowlers were Mark wood, Jordan and Archer. He started off with a 6 off Archer in his 1st international ball.

Yes, Pakistan is a team that matters. But that doesn't mean just because he didn't score against them in 4 innings he becomes the most overhyped player ever. BA has failed against India 3 games on the trot so does that mean he is useless? Both Babar n Rizwan have failed miserably in Australia so what doies that say about them?

Again you are comparing apples with oranges. Since you couldn't find anyone who could match SKY's stats you are bringing up test and odi players. Also both abid and imam are openers whose role is different from SKY. They both can only dream scoring a 25 ball 60 even against a local club. SKy meanwhile has the highest s/r not only in India but the world.

Indian fans go gaga over him because there hasn't been a player before who scored a 50 once every 3rd game at a s/r well over 150.

In my post I deliberately mentioned that I am not comparing him with anybody but who replied back throwing names of Trott, Abid and Imam while also asking others not to bring up BA.

SKy holds the record for reaching 1000 runs facing the least amount of balls. Considering he plays at the death most of the times its a terrific record.

Please counter to his stats so far without comparing test and odi players or even bowlers like Varun (who anyways didn't have the same following or hype as SKY). Not just fans every professional cricketer (both current and ex) has only praise for him unlike baised fans.

Jonathan Trott is an example of a player with a purple patch

Seen the grounds and opposition against whom SKY is scoring.
Anyways, lets see if the bubble burst agaisnt a full strength side here in Australia or not
 
Jonathan Trott is an example of a player with a purple patch

Seen the grounds and opposition against whom SKY is scoring.
Anyways, lets see if the bubble burst agaisnt a full strength side here in Australia or not

Wil this yardstick be used for all cricketers or only SKY. As far as I know SKY atleast scored a 200+ s/r 50 vs neds but world no. 1 and no. 4 failed even a run a ball 15 so far. So does that mean they are useless as they failed even against ZIM?

Minnows doesn't mean they are cannon fodder for batsmen. We have seen teams like Namibia, ireland n ZIM beat test playing nations. Anyways i see there is no use trying to wake a person who is pretending to sleep.

But 1 thing is for sure this thread is going to be as legendary as the Virat Kohli vs Umar Akmal thread.
 
Jonathan Trott is an example of a player with a purple patch

Seen the grounds and opposition against whom SKY is scoring.
Anyways, lets see if the bubble burst agaisnt a full strength side here in Australia or not

He started his career with first ball against Archer lol You can add any filters, In current form he will ace it. To your question. NO he is not over-rated. In your world he is under-rated.
 
Yes, SKY is the real deal, NOT AT ALL overhyped. He will have a relatively short career with him being in his 30's already, but it has been and will remain impactful - that's how he plays. He's better than any of your players past or present in T20Is.
 
Yes, SKY is the real deal, NOT AT ALL overhyped. He will have a relatively short career with him being in his 30's already, but it has been and will remain impactful - that's how he plays. He's better than any of your players past or present in T20Is.

He, Finn Allen kind of players that every team needs to keep T20 match interesting. It is a joke format. It will be an even more a joke if you don't play the way it is supposed to be played. 120 balls. 11 batsmen. You have to go hell for leather. Surprisingly only 10 or 15% of batsmen do that regularly.
 
Hooda is a great choice for Opening blinder smack it role but they are putting him in the middle order and I don’t think Rohit favors him.

I think they will continue with Rahul and probably drop him after the WC.

Maybe just go for DK lol who knows, even Bishnoi seems better than Rahul right now
Hooda is a proper dud.
 
Major is a good poster but this is a ridiculous thread.

SKY is a sensation. Extremely skillful, brave and selfless. He walks into every LOI side in the world.
 
Is the fake Major wathcing this match? On a pitch where everyone is struggling SKY smashes a 50.
 
As I said earlier this post will be as legendary as the Virat Kohli vs Umar akmal thread
 
OP also thinks Misbah is a great coach/selector/white ball cricketer etc. Low understanding of the game :rabada2
 
I would love to have this 'overrated and overhyped' player in the Pakistan side.

Better than most if not all of the batters we have in T20Is.
 
Top quality knock. It was only a matter of time in case you were looking for a knock in a World tournament vs any of top 6 teams.

There has to be some analysis or logical argument if you say he doesn't perform in a World tournament except against minnows. Just claiming based on 3-4 matches sample doesn't make sense.
 
Babar and Rizwan would be batting at a SR of 100 in these circumstances because they have to “steady the ship”.
 
In T20s, I would happily swap SKY over Babar and Rizwan. He's better than both combined.

Babar and Rizwan can only dream of playing such a knock against a world class pace attack at Perth.
 
So the guy who scores everywhere, against everyone with a SR of 200 is overrated. Okay :))
 
Good performance against a good opposition attack on a Perth wicket
 
SR of 180+ against Rabada over 50+. Wow.

The Indian De Villiers/Buttler.
 
Today versus South Africa

Suryakumar Yadav: 68 off 40 balls
Rest of the Indian batters: 57 off 80 balls
Extras: 8
 
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Seemed to be batting on another track like Steve Smith in wc 2015.

Has very fast bat speed and reflexes. A bit like Sehwag.
 
Surya and Kohli (despite his score) seemed like the only proper batsmen in this match.
 
Let’s see the number 1 and 4 ranked batsmen do better against Nortje, Rabada in Sydney
 
Let’s see the number 1 and 4 ranked batsmen do better against Nortje, Rabada in Sydney

Yes indeed. India will take this "overrated overhyped "player anyday. On his day, he makes other Indian batsmen look mediocre, as he did today.
 
Surya and Kohli (despite his score) seemed like the only proper batsmen in this match.

No one except SKY and Kohli could come to terms with the pace and the trampoline bounce that SA bowlers were getting.

Heck, even SA batsmen who are used to bouncy wickets struggled against Indian trundlers. They just attacked Ashwin smartly and that proved to be the decisive factor in SA win.
 
Surya and Kohli (despite his score) seemed like the only proper batsmen in this match.

Rohit likes these surfaces. Infact one of the best we have. He should have bailed out. On seeing Rohit was a foot outside the crease Ngidi banged it in. ball came quicker. If he had stayed in the crease he would have played his trademark pull for six. Even Rahul can play bounce. But if you bowl him in the channel he is a sitting duck.
 
If anything he is underrated,he showed glimpses of ABD in him today.


Wanna know who btw is really overrated? Yes, Babar Azam and Rizwan..
 
Against 140kph+ bowling, Suryakumar Yadav averages 42 and strikes at 149. In T20 history, Jos Buttler is the only man to face as much high pace bowling as Yadav, while managing a better strike rate and batting average.
 
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Major. You do not dictate who can talk about what and where.

You asked a valid question, and I am refuting your question with a valid answer

Muhammad Rizwan is the most overhyped cricketer in modern history
Jee [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] saab
 
In my books SKY is the one most worthy of the no. 1 postion. This wednesday when the rankings are updated he may recah it considering his 2 50s.
 
Ends up scoring in a losing cause :klopp

Too bad he couldn't capitalize on the clueless south african batting line up against swing with a better follow up spell. lol The length one goes to justify their demonstrably false claim.
 
Had my doubts about the quality of the guy but today he proved everyone. High quality pace on that pitch and he scored half the team's runs with a ridiculous SR. They were in the hunt because of him.
 
Good knock, good T20 player. A lot of batters in that situation would have shut the shop and scored run a ball 50 but SKY got to his 50 of 30 balls and ended up at 68.
 
Good knock, good T20 player. A lot of batters in that situation would have shut the shop and scored run a ball 50 but SKY got to his 50 of 30 balls and ended up at 68.

Miller did that. Inspite of all the heeve hoves, Miller's strike rate was only 129.
 
Ends up scoring in a losing cause :klopp

So shifting goal posts now that he didn't score in a winning cause. But how is that related to being overrated and overhyped ever? If he indeed was overrated/overhyped he would have fell like his teammatesdid and Idnia would ahve ended up scoring less than 80. Even as wickets fell he didn't slow down and finished with a 170s/r rate.
 
Ends up scoring in a losing cause :klopp

Mate stop acting like a clown.
I know its not appropriate to include him in the discussion, but trust me Babar Azam is the most overrated t20 cricketer ever along with run leaker Southee and Rishab Pant (he can improve).
 
Filters applied :-

1. It should be a World Cup match.
2. It should be against test playing nations.
3. It should be against one of the top 6 teams.
4. It should be in a winning cause.

Next filter would be :-

5. It should be a World Cup knockout

All these five filters should be applied and then if he succeeds, he is not overrated/overhyped. :91: :inti
 
Filters applied :-

1. It should be a World Cup match.
2. It should be against test playing nations.
3. It should be against one of the top 6 teams.
4. It should be in a winning cause.

Next filter would be :-

5. It should be a World Cup knockout

All these five filters should be applied and then if he succeeds, he is not overrated/overhyped. :91: :inti

It is more than anti-INdia. It is a case of defensive mechanism kicking in."I took a position. I have been comprehensively proven wrong. Mia culpa is not an option. So i have to double down with new arguments"
Since the position was extreme position he had no room to back down :)

At the end of the day INdian fans know the value of such player. He could fail from time to time due to his extremely his risk game. If we can't take risk in the ultra short format where else you will take risk. This is why i am excited about Finn Allen as well. He doesn't care about averages. He just goes out and express himself. HE can fail 3 out of 5 games. But the 2 games he clicks will play a huge impact.
 
It is more than anti-INdia. It is a case of defensive mechanism kicking in."I took a position. I have been comprehensively proven wrong. Mia culpa is not an option. So i have to double down with new arguments"
Since the position was extreme position he had no room to back down :)

At the end of the day INdian fans know the value of such player. He could fail from time to time due to his extremely his risk game. If we can't take risk in the ultra short format where else you will take risk. This is why i am excited about Finn Allen as well. He doesn't care about averages. He just goes out and express himself. HE can fail 3 out of 5 games. But the 2 games he clicks will play a huge impact.

It is amazing that he still averages 40 with a SR of 177. How can someone with that Average & SR be called overrated. Sometimes these threads make me laugh. Good fun though :shappy
 
Let's see if he scores and wins a game, but than again against Bangladesh?
 
OP should be happy that SKY is 32 and will only play another 3-4 yrs of cricket.

Thus this thread will only be getting bumped for that timeframe. Unlike the Pant thread which will continue for more than a decade
 
SKY's recent heroics should silence all his naysayers. SKY is an absolute legend!
 
Jeez, why are Indians so insecure !!! I am pretty sure OP is enjoying Indian fans acting like house on fire so much so that he is adding fuel to fire and enjoying even more. I know who is on top of the situation here and it is not the fans.
 
It is amazing that he still averages 40 with a SR of 177. How can someone with that Average & SR be called overrated. Sometimes these threads make me laugh. Good fun though :shappy

SKY 55 sixes in 26 innings for 2022

Nawaz+Babar+Rizwa+Iftikhar (top 4 six hitters for pak in 2022) 54 sixes in 78 innings for 2022

2022 strike rate for SKY is 183.
 
Jeez, why are Indians so insecure !!! I am pretty sure OP is enjoying Indian fans acting like house on fire so much so that he is adding fuel to fire and enjoying even more. I know who is on top of the situation here and it is not the fans.

What a weird post this is.
 
Jeez, why are Indians so insecure !!! I am pretty sure OP is enjoying Indian fans acting like house on fire so much so that he is adding fuel to fire and enjoying even more. I know who is on top of the situation here and it is not the fans.

I don't think he is enjoying it lol. You start a thread that backfires. You don't enjoy it lol.
 
Jeez, why are Indians so insecure !!! I am pretty sure OP is enjoying Indian fans acting like house on fire so much so that he is adding fuel to fire and enjoying even more. I know who is on top of the situation here and it is not the fans.
Yes, agreed.

But you realised this quite late, just a week ago, I riled up you and other insecure Sachin fans with a couple of posts, didn't even need a thread.
 
Yes, agreed.

But you realised this quite late, just a week ago, I riled up you and other insecure Sachin fans with a couple of posts, didn't even need a thread.

Insecurity and immaturity is when you have to put some other player from your own team down in order to glorify your hero. Kohli is one of my greatest cricketing heroes, along with many other Indian posters on PP. But you'll never see us put down his legacy under any circumstances for underperforming in the last 3 years, in order to glorify our original heroes. That's called maturity.

Don't worry, you'll achieve it as you grow older.
 
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But you'll never see us put down his legacy under any circumstances for underperforming in the last 3 years, in order to glorify our original heroes. That's called maturity..
Please check that thread before claiming this.
Not every Sachin fan is a fanatic.
 
Yes, agreed.

But you realised this quite late, just a week ago, I riled up you and other insecure Sachin fans with a couple of posts, didn't even need a thread.

[MENTION=146270]WengerOut[/MENTION] is right here and he was also right when he called you immature for labelling Sachin as a choker. And you are the only one who looks riled up here since you brought that thing here from another thread. :inti
 
Insecurity and immaturity is when you have to put some other player from your own team down in order to glorify your hero. Kohli is one of my greatest cricketing heroes, along with many other Indian posters on PP. But you'll never see us put down his legacy under any circumstances for underperforming in the last 3 years, in order to glorify our original heroes. That's called maturity.

Don't worry, you'll achieve it as you grow older.

He has done the same with even Dhoni and Yuvraj on many occasions. Check the Rishabh Pant thread. We can't even criticise Pant for playing stupid shots and getting out in the current match because Dhoni hasn't played an inning like Pant did in Australia. This is how these guys defend their favorites. They call me Pakistani for criticising some overrated cricketers but I never say stuff like 'india deserves to lose because my fav player is not playing' or 'sachin is a choker'. :91: :inti
 
It's amazing how people can support a ridiculously incompetent white ball batsman who barely struck above 70 SR in his career and yet criticise a high impact white ball batsman like SKY. :rabada2
 
Yes, agreed.

But you realised this quite late, just a week ago, I riled up you and other insecure Sachin fans with a couple of posts, didn't even need a thread.

I produced facts before you. You shifted goalposts there. And you only brought Sachin and ABD in that thread and you are saying i was riled up??? It seems you are still sour 😆
 
Rohit likes these surfaces. Infact one of the best we have. He should have bailed out. On seeing Rohit was a foot outside the crease Ngidi banged it in. ball came quicker. If he had stayed in the crease he would have played his trademark pull for six. Even Rahul can play bounce. But if you bowl him in the channel he is a sitting duck.
was very disappointing to watch rohit get out that way. one of the best players of pull shot getting hurried by lungi ngidi of all bowlers. that should have been deposited in the stands.
 
It's amazing how people can support a ridiculously incompetent white ball batsman who barely struck above 70 SR in his career and yet criticise a high impact white ball batsman like SKY. :rabada2

impact? India lost to SA. What impact are you talking about
 
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