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If it were up to BCCI, they would have Pakistani play in South Africa one game, Sri Lanka the next, and USA after that.only northern hindi belt cities for pak.
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If it were up to BCCI, they would have Pakistani play in South Africa one game, Sri Lanka the next, and USA after that.only northern hindi belt cities for pak.
BCCI only communicated they will not travel to Pakistan. It was ICC that decided all India matches will be played in Dubai. It was a revenue driven decision by them - imagine if they had Dubai, Sharjah, Abu Dhabi as venues, that would mean a LOT of extra money being spent for renting the stadiums, paying people there for their services, catering, security, travel, and other logistics. Consequently, Pakistan as a host and other participants would have received even less money as a result. I don’t think anyone at that point even thought about this advantage, but now that people have brought this up, who knows when India hosts the next tournaments they might have Pakistan shuttle around different cities to take away the advantage they now know exists![]()
BCCI only communicated they will not travel to Pakistan. It was ICC that decided all India matches will be played in Dubai. It was a revenue driven decision by them - imagine if they had Dubai, Sharjah, Abu Dhabi as venues, that would mean a LOT of extra money being spent for renting the stadiums, paying people there for their services, catering, security, travel, and other logistics. Consequently, Pakistan as a host and other participants would have received even less money as a result. I don’t think anyone at that point even thought about this advantage, but now that people have brought this up, who knows when India hosts the next tournaments they might have Pakistan shuttle around different cities to take away the advantage they now know exists![]()
It is comical to see suggestions like "They should have scheduled in such a way that India became equally tired". lol What is next. "You played two weak teams (pakistan, bangladesh) so you aer less tired. Play one more team so that you will be equally tired when we meet in semis".
Did you not read anything related to money that I wrote above?BCCI demanded for one location, because it would give them an advantage, India would not need to play in 3 stadiums, but they could have easily had played in 2 locations, example first 2 matches in Dubai, last group stage match abu dhabi, and semi final in abu dhabi and final in dubai if they make it. With that of schedule, no one would complain and it would be fair and make sense. The fact that India can play all there 5 games is an advantage, and BCCI did ask for this.
You cannot put it past them. I can only give them suggestion. Next time when Pakistan hosts a tournament you also use the security reasons to play on a neutral venue. If only Australia, England had joined India entire CT could have been hosted in UAE by PakistanNass and Athers next statement : Eng got tired because of the 2 huge scoring games they were involved in on flat tracks. No more ICC events in Pak as Eng gets tired and loses games. Man, cant believe I am typing ridiculous statements like this !![]()
This is why i expected PCB growing a pair and rejecting hybrid model. But there were major legal threats. PCB succumbed. There are way bigger things you have to worry about than these "same venue advantage". They could have potentially moved the whole CT outside pakistan. This is the least of your worries.
Klassen also said the same thing. Only guys who whine are England. Australia does this as a mental game. Deep down they don't care either.Glenn Philips about the advantage for India playing in Dubai:
"We are not focussing on that, not going to be complaining - India have been dealt their hand, we have been dealt our hand, so we focus on that
".
I did read what you mentioed about money, but having 2 locations would not make any real difference, espically considering the fact ICC and BCCI in particular have soo much money, it could have been done easily. Do not deny that India did not get this advantage, and that this advantage was demanded by BCCIDid you not read anything related to money that I wrote above?
You started your first post above my first response to you with “I think” which is a presumption. But by the second post because I let it pass the first time, it suddenly changed to “BCCI demanded” as if you were copied on that email!!
Oh not at all denying India has an advantage but that it was “demanded” by BCCI is a speculation.I did read what you mentioed about money, but having 2 locations would not make any real difference, espically considering the fact ICC and BCCI in particular have soo much money, it could have been done easily. Do not deny that India did not get this advantage, and that this advantage was demanded by BCCI
Why should BCCI spend its own money on an ICC tournament which is hosted by Pakistan? BCCI was happy to walk off this tournament- after all CT is not a a WC. It was PCB who succumbed to greed and folded before BCCI. Why don’t you guys try holding an ICC event without India participating and see where that takes you?I did read what you mentioed about money, but having 2 locations would not make any real difference, espically considering the fact ICC and BCCI in particular have soo much money, it could have been done easily. Do not deny that India did not get this advantage, and that this advantage was demanded by BCCI
Glenn Philips about the advantage for India playing in Dubai:
"We are not focussing on that, not going to be complaining - India have been dealt their hand, we have been dealt our hand, so we focus on that
".
People really need to move on from this thing. There is no unfair advantage here. Other teams also played more than 1 game on same pitch. India won fair and square and people need to accept it that they are better than other asian teams.
+1, this is why I hate when people disrespect NZ, Aus and by extension me.Championship team mentality.
NZ not cry babies like some other nations
Why should BCCI spend its own money on an ICC tournament which is hosted by Pakistan? BCCI was happy to walk off this tournament- after all CT is not a a WC. It was PCB who succumbed to greed and folded before BCCI. Why don’t you guys try holding an ICC event without India participating and see where that takes youI did read what you mentioed about money, but having 2 locations would not make any real difference, espically considering the fact ICC and BCCI in particular have soo much money, it could have been done easily. Do not deny that India did not get this advantage, and that this advantage was demanded by BCCI
What the heck, why are both the Group B teams going to Dubai, when the rankings will be decided soon enough? What kind of management is this?These are international players/teams and are expected to adjust to such conditions. I always believe that going into a match both team have equal chances of winning it.
However the fixture of CT is poor and should've been planned better. I read somewhere that Aus and SA have to travel to Dubai, wait for result of last league match and then one team has to return to Lahore for second semi. 1-2 days additional gap between Ind-NZ match and first semi final could've avoided it. Completely shortsighted planning from ICC or PCB.
They should have hosted India's match first and the other match next. Since they are hosting India's match only on sunday they have scheuled like this. Need to see the idiot who came up with this schedule.Why should BCCI spend its own money on an ICC tournament which is hosted by Pakistan? BCCI was happy to walk off this tournament- after all CT is not a a WC. It was PCB who succumbed to greed and folded before BCCI. Why don’t you guys try holding an ICC event without India participating and see where that takes you
What the heck, why are both the Group B teams going to Dubai, when the rankings will be decided soon enough? What kind of management is this?
BCCI is the one who created this mess by not coming to Pakistan, they SHOULD be the ones to pay, we all know the reality ICC would not hold a tournament with India. India should have put its politics aside, either tour Pakistan, or if you play in UAE have 2 matches in another stadium, it really would not be the end of the world.Why should BCCI spend its own money on an ICC tournament which is hosted by Pakistan? BCCI was happy to walk off this tournament- after all CT is not a a WC. It was PCB who succumbed to greed and folded before BCCI. Why don’t you guys try holding an ICC event without India participating and see where that takes you
What the heck, why are both the Group B teams going to Dubai, when the rankings will be decided soon enough? What kind of management is this?
Firstly, BCCI was more than willing to walk away from CT. I don't think they cared if they played or not. It was the ICC that insisted and negotiated to get India in. So, whatever the current situation is, is because of ICC.BCCI is the one who created this mess by not coming to Pakistan, they SHOULD be the ones to pay, we all know the reality ICC would not hold a tournament with India. India should have put its politics aside, either tour Pakistan, or if you play in UAE have 2 matches in another stadium, it really would not be the end of the world.
India did not want to play in Pakistan but wanted to play in the tourney, if they didn't want to play they would simply opt out and not ask for hybrid model, to say India did not want to play or cared is not trueFirstly, BCCI was more than willing to walk away from CT. I don't think they cared if they played or not. It was the ICC that insisted and negotiated to get India in. So, whatever the current situation is, is because of ICC.
When this is the case, then BCCI holds all the cards. The ICC gives everything that BCCI wants. When you are getting what you want, why would you change anything? Just not human nature. Does not happen. Will not happen.
The only way to change the current situation is for the ICC and the rest of the boards to take up the solution(s) in front of them. Unfortunately, they have not done that so far. When you don't pounce when opportunity presents itself, you deserve what you get.
Pakistani pain became much worse today with an Indian win. Lol.
Bus yaar. They are in this position because we allowed them.India are winning these while getting pampered like a princess. They are not winning these like men.
Remember teams are needing to go back and forth from Dubai to Pakistan. It is not easy to travel that much. India are having it very easy.
After this win Noman Ali, Sajid khan will be trending for a whilePakistani pain became much worse today with an Indian win. Lol.
Thanks for your honesty it clearly is an advantageHonestly, yes, we're taking full advantage of the situation and making the most of the opportunity. As an Indian fan, I'm enjoying every moment of it!![]()
It is true. Because PCB was facing legal threats from sponsors. So India's presence was needed.India did not want to play in Pakistan but wanted to play in the tourney, if they didn't want to play they would simply opt out and not ask for hybrid model, to say India did not want to play or cared is not true
Oh yes that's been a huge advantage. They are enjoying their stay there and playing on same surface game after game.India are winning these while getting pampered like princesses. They are not winning these like men.
Remember teams are needing to go back and forth from Dubai to Pakistan. It is not easy to travel that much. India are having it very easy.
Oh yes that's been a huge advantage. They are enjoying their stay there and playing on same surface game after game.
But you got to accept they run this game currently
Obviously it is an advantage. But where Pakistan is concerned, we will make sure to make things difficult for you. You are the guys who backed out of IPL, tried to sue our board & still fawn over us for our money. When we make 80 percent of the revenue & subsidize you, why should we make it easy for you? You think Pakistan would have gone easy on us, if the shoes were on the other feet?Thanks for your honesty it clearly is an advantage
But why did both the teams come up toSo South Africa who landed in Dubai this afternoon will fly back to Pakistan tomorrow.
But your posts blame India for everything?Running the game doesn't give them the right to turn the sport into a farce. Europeans don't do this with FIFA.
I blame ICC and other boards for putting up with this circus.
So South Africa who landed in Dubai this afternoon will fly back to Pakistan tomorrow.
PCB - The host boardBut why did both the teams come up to
Dubai in the first place- who came up with this?
The game at the Elite level is become a farce.
Thank God, football is not as bad.
I think BCCI demanded to play all games in Dubai, and properly threaten to pull out if demand was not met. The reality is if India did not take part in the tourney, ICC would not move forward with it, BCCI used there power to there advantage.
Your lies are exposed in USA group stage they played 3 matches in New York (hence another advanage) and last matche was in FloridaWhen in 2024 India played all league matches in USA in three different cities and then went to play the knockouts in WI, Indians were not complaining.
Watch other sports for once before opening your mouthWhat we are seeing in cricket doesn't happen in any other major sport.
Blatant favoritism.
To be fair what he was trying to say was we do not see this level of favoritism in other sports, there is favoritism in all sports to an extent, but in Cricket India gets all the favors, Sweep Shot is not wrong about that.Watch other sports for once before opening your mouth
Your lies are exposed in USA group stage they played 3 matches in New York (hence another advanage) and last matche was in Florida
You always spread lies it needs to stop.
To be fair what he was trying to say was we do not see this level of favoritism in other sports, there is favoritism in all sports to an extent, but in Cricket India gets all the favors, Sweep Shot is not wrong about that.
Pakistan also played all its group matches in USA, and again India had 3 matches in New York (advantage), thats BCCI and ICC fault, they knew more money would be made having matches in USA for India, rather than W.I, at the send of the day India asked to have its matches in USA, and first 3 in New YorkOk so India didn't play in Dallas.
Still India played its group matches in USA, while other major countries that played the knockouts played all their matches in WI.
Just because financial survival is needed off one team, does not mean you give it 1 million favors, gave it some favors fine but to the extent the playing field is fair. This is BCCI and ICC fault for not trying to expand the gameDo you see any other sports so dependent on one country for financial survival?
Pakistan also played all its group matches in USA, and again India had 3 matches in New York (advantage), thats BCCI and ICC fault, they knew more money would be made having matches in USA for India, rather than W.I, at the send of the day India asked to have its matches in USA, and first 3 in New York
Just because financial survival is needed off one team, does not mean you give it 1 million favors, gave it some favors fine but to the extent the playing field is fair. This is BCCI and ICC fault for not trying to expand the game
India had 1 match in Flordia and it was the last matchIndia also had matches in Florida.
Pakistan didn't qualify for the KOs so they didn't have to travel to WI to play their games.
So it's BCCIs fault because they traveled around USA to make money for the ICC? Why didn't the ICC ask CA or ECB to do it?
BCCI is the biggest money maker and is bascially is the ICC, so yes it is BCCI job because there ICC to spread the gameIt's not BCCIs job to spread the game.
Why don't other boards try to carry their burden?
People really need to move on from this thing. There is no unfair advantage here. Other teams also played more than 1 game on same pitch. India won fair and square and people need to accept it that -
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India had 1 match in Flordia and it was the last match
Had Pakistan Qualified, would you also say Pakistan had an unfair advantage of playing all games in USA during knockouts.
We all know BCCI, is the biggest contributor to ICC, so you dont have to ask that question because everyone already knows that, so this is why ICC would not ask CA or ECB to do it. At the same time there is about 5.2 million Indians in America, so ICC would want to have India matches in USA, which makes sense, but you had 3 grounds and 4 matches, India should have played 2 in New York, 1 in Dallas and 1 in Florida.
Regardless, be it CT 2025, T20 World cup 2024, T20 World cup 2021. Asia Cup 2022 etc.... India always has favors and always have the advantages.
ICC T20 2021 world cup all matches in Dubai except 1India had all its group matches in USA, and yes Pakistan would similarly be disadvantaged if they qualified for the KOs.
What favours have India had? Please tell.
You are accusing the ICC umpire panel of being corrupt. Are you saying they have accepted some sort of bribe to favor Ind?ICC T20 2021 world cup all matches in Dubai except 1
Asia cup 2022 all matches in Dubai
Umpires 90 percent giving in to india bowlers lbw appeal, with a good amount of them being umpires call, or in todays case we saw one missing the wicket.
The list can go on and on
ICC T20 2021 world cup all matches in Dubai except 1
Asia cup 2022 all matches in Dubai
Umpires 90 percent giving in to india bowlers lbw appeal, with a good amount of them being umpires call, or in todays case we saw one missing the wicket.
The list can go on and on
India where host in 2023, they played in different venues2021 T20WC India was the host and host gets to decide where they play.
You are accusing umpires of cheating?
Is India also manipulating DRS?
You are accusing umpires of cheating?
Is India also manipulating DRS?
India where host in 2023, they played in different venues
Pakistan is host of this tournament, and played in different venues (for games in Pakistan)
These are favors that where done by the ICC
India where host in 2023, they played in different venues
Pakistan is host of this tournament, and played in different venues (for games in Pakistan)
These are favors that where done by the ICC
That is not correct, its one thing your hosting the tourney, but do you need to play every game in 1 stadium, when they can easily be played at other stadiums. 2023 was done correctly in terms of India being host but playing at multiple stadiums, the way it should be done. ICC should do better and not accept these demands or favors from BCCIHost makes the venue decisions not ICC. Host makes the itinerary and sends it to ICC.
It is very hard to educate ill informed fans. Let them believe what they want to believe if it helps them sleep. It is away of coping.Host makes the venue decisions not ICC. Host makes the itinerary and sends it to ICC.
Can u turn that into meaningful sentence? Can’t figure out what u r trying to sayBCCI is the biggest money maker and is bascially is the ICC, so yes it is BCCI job because there ICC to spread the game
Why didn't the ICC ask CA or ECB to do it?
England played all their games in the West Indies for the same reason India played all theirs in the US; it would bring in more money.