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Is the Indian team getting an unfair advantage in the ICC Champions Trophy 2025 by playing all its matches in Dubai?

raj_milan said:
All this complaining about Dubai is mainly because India reached the finals. If I'm not mistaken, the PCB originally proposed that India play all their matches in Lahore and return to the border after each game. So, how is playing in one venue in Dubai any different?

Is traveling first class from Pakistan to Dubai and back, with a flight duration of just 1.5 hours, really that tiring for the New Zealand players or SA players? Naseer Hussain and Atherton throw a fit every time India wins a game—imagine the tantrums if India wins two global tournaments in the span of two years!
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We dont talk about facts! :shh :hamster:
 
raj_milan said:
All this complaining about Dubai is mainly because India reached the finals. If I'm not mistaken, the PCB originally proposed that India play all their matches in Lahore and return to the border after each game. So, how is playing in one venue in Dubai any different?

Is traveling first class from Pakistan to Dubai and back, with a flight duration of just 1.5 hours, really that tiring for the New Zealand players or SA players? Naseer Hussain and Atherton throw a fit every time India wins a game—imagine the tantrums if India wins two global tournaments in the span of two years!
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Just a distraction to mask their own team's poor performance. England didn't even leave anywhere to play another match. If i were their fans i would be screaming at my own cricket board. Not whining about team that already made the final. Anyway given that it helps them cope i wouldn't pay much attention to it. Human beings handle their sufferings different way. Some look at someone who is in worse situation than them and say "Atleast i am not him". Some does the opposite. They look at someone who is far superior to them and say "I sincerely pray they come to our level". First one is practical. Second one is pitiful.
 
Those who are saying India had undue advantage for playing at one venue, below mentioned is an eye opener….

In Champions trophy 2009, host South Africa. South Africa played all their matches at one venue I.e. centurion. Despite this, South Africa failed to qualify for KO
 
globetrotter said:
Those who are saying India had undue advantage for playing at one venue, below mentioned is an eye opener….

In Champions trophy 2009, host South Africa. South Africa played all their matches at one venue I.e. centurion. Despite this, South Africa failed to qualify for KO
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The same 2 venues were used for that entire tournament requiring no teams to travel.
 
Oh, the criticism from overseas pundits about India’s schedule in the ICC Champions Trophy 2025? Totally valid and definitely not based on a mix of jealousy, political cluelessness, double standards, and, of course, India’s sheer dominance. But hey, who needs to understand travel logistics when you can just take shots at India?

Instead of complaining about India’s arrangements, maybe these critics should focus on their own teams' performances and the broader, incredibly competitive world of international cricket.

And seriously, expecting India to just waltz into Pakistan without any concerns? How quaint. The political tensions are just a minor detail, right? Of course, the discussions between the ICC, BCCI, and PCB happened ages before the Champions Trophy, but let’s ignore that. And why didn’t other teams speak up? Well, duh, everyone was too busy eyeing their share of the revenue from broadcasters. Priorities, people.

But let’s not forget the small matter of the 2008 Mumbai attacks—just a little hiccup that might explain India’s reluctance to play in Pakistan. But, sure, let’s ignore history because that’s totally irrelevant.

And the best part? The English camp, especially former players, complaining is hilarious. Were any of them raising alarms when England was tucked away in the Caribbean for the 2024 T20 World Cup? Nope. Or when New Zealand played all their matches at home during the 2015 ODI World Cup? Suddenly, when it’s their turn, the playing field is all about "fairness."

Are these critics of India’s growing cricketing influence really forgetting how things were before the BCCI became the powerhouse it is today? Let’s not pretend England and Australia didn’t control the ICC for most of the 20th century, while India was just sitting there with all its cricketing passion but no influence. That all changed in 1983 when India shocked the world by winning the World Cup at Lord's—oh, and NKP Salve, then BCCI president, got denied extra passes for the final. Classic.

And, hilariously, even in this Champions Trophy 2025, England got to play both their games in Lahore, only to win lose comprehensively. So much for that “venue advantage” theory—seems like England failed at their own game. Irony, anyone?
 
raj_milan said:
And the best part? The English camp, especially former players, complaining is hilarious. Were any of them raising alarms when England was tucked away in the Caribbean for the 2024 T20 World Cup?
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England played their 8 games in the tournament at 5 different grounds in 5 different countries. India played their 9 games at 6 grounds in 5 countries. It's negligible difference.

raj_milan said:
Or when New Zealand played all their matches at home during the 2015 ODI World Cup?
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Literally no one has an issue with a host getting home advantage at a world cup.

raj_milan said:
oh, and NKP Salve, then BCCI president, got denied extra passes for the final. Classic.
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You say this as if free tickets not being dished out to be handed on to entitled politicians with no actual involvement in the sport is a bad thing.
 
I get confused with HItman and HItwicket :) One is Pak fan. One is Indian fan. Got iit. Now that i see both names on the same page.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Must watch video for all the jealous fans who cast a shadow on India's win. Brilliant smackdown. @Vikram1989 @Bhaijaan @mb3407 @Rajdeep @Mesozoic @Mockingbird @Devadwal

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People are unable to digest the fact that Indian white ball team is actually very good. For past few years, they were clinging onto the final straw of India being a choker as they are not able to win any ICC trophy. Now since that floodgates has opened, they are trying to find new avenues to pull us down. However it will not work simply because we have quality players to back it up. A Rohit Sharma pull shot will land in 2nd tier and a Bumrah yorker will rattle your stumps irrespective of the conspiracy world cooks. I have said this before and will repeat, the only way to beat BCCI/India is by playing good cricket. Prepare a team that can challenge us on ground rather than cooking up conspiracy theories. Except Australia, no other team seems to do that unfortunately and try to hide under silly excuses.
 
India won it fair and square. Yeah, there were some travelling issues for rival teams but still, India was always looking dangerous and they won the thing in the end. Kudos to them.
 
HitWicket said:
That's not how it works. Having an advantage doesn't automatically mean you win every game.
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THen why are you correlating it lol How will you even quantify it. Were New zealanders sluggish? If anything Indians were far more sluggish. They couldn't tell which way Varun spins or Kuldeep spins because of that? How would you even calculate that? Bavuma playing test cricket is due to flight travel? NZ did the same travel and butchered SA bowling. Also India not travelling how does it impact SA?
 
jnaveen1980 said:
THen why are you correlating it lol How will you even quantify it. Were New zealanders sluggish? If anything Indians were far more sluggish. They couldn't tell which way Varun spins or Kuldeep spins because of that? How would you even calculate that? Bavuma playing test cricket is due to flight travel? NZ did the same travel and butchered SA bowling. Also India not travelling how does it impact SA?
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I've not tried to quantify it, but it's still an undeniable advantage.
 
HitWicket said:
I've not tried to quantify it, but it's still an undeniable advantage.
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Cricketing advantage negligible. That is why touring sides still manage to win matches overseas. Agarwal landed a day before boxing day test made debut scored 74. You don't lose your skills on the way. Unless someway you can prove how your performance is impacted you shouldn't be claiming "undeniable advantage" given that England got shellacking despite playing two matches on the trot at the same venue. India even lost the toss. NZ got 3.4 degree turn as against 2 degree for India.
 
manzoor.syed said:
The ICC’s favoritism towards the BCCI has never been more obvious than in this tournament. The entire scheduling reeks of an attempt to give India every possible advantage, and this move to hold all of India’s games in Dubai just reinforces the idea that the ICC is little more than an extension of the BCCI. It’s one thing to ensure a strong cricketing powerhouse like India has good facilities, but to outright hand them a tailored path to the trophy? That’s beyond ridiculous.
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Does it occur to you that the EXACT Same ICC agreed to the exact same arrangement for Pakistan for the next ICC event ? Further more look at the scheduling of the WC23.

But yeah don't un-install that FACT Blocker thats in your head. It makes our win even more sweeter by making these hilarious posts.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Cricketing advantage negligible. That is why touring sides still manage to win matches overseas. Agarwal landed a day before boxing day test made debut scored 74. You don't lose your skills on the way. Unless someway you can prove how your performance is impacted you shouldn't be claiming "undeniable advantage" given that England got shellacking despite playing two matches on the trot at the same venue. India even lost the toss. NZ got 3.4 degree turn as against 2 degree for India.
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An undeniable advantage doesn't automatically mean a team will always win.

uppercut said:
Does it occur to you that the EXACT Same ICC agreed to the exact same arrangement for Pakistan for the next ICC event ? Further more look at the scheduling of the WC23.

But yeah don't un-install that FACT Blocker thats in your head. It makes our win even more sweeter by making these hilarious posts.
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Pakistan will presumably play at numerous venues across Sri Lanka for the next ICC event.
 
The Bald Eagle said:
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India has received an unfair advantage, there's no doubt about it, but ICC trophies aren't won solely based on venue. I don't understand why you Pakistanis think a team can remain a top ODI side for the past 12-15 years without skill. Junaid Khan's comment seemed less sensible and more generalized. He was a good bowler back then, but now he seems more like a social media troll to me.
 
West Indies pace legend Sir Andy Roberts speaking during an interview:

“Something’s got to give… India can’t get everything. The ICC [International Cricket Council] must say no to India at times. India even had an advantage at last year’s T20 World Cup, where they knew in advance where their semi-final would be played [in Guyana]. At the Champions Trophy, India did not have to travel at all. How can a team not travel during a tournament.”

“It is not fair, it’s not cricket. There has to be a level playing field. I know a lot of money comes from India, but cricket ought not to be a one-country sport. It now looks like a one-nation competition and the playing field is not level. To me, the ICC stands for the Indian Cricket Board. India dictates everything. If tomorrow, India says, ‘listen there should be no no-balls and wides,’ take my word, the ICC will find a way to satisfy India.”
 
BouncerGuy said:
West Indies pace legend Sir Andy Roberts speaking during an interview:

“Something’s got to give… India can’t get everything. The ICC [International Cricket Council] must say no to India at times. India even had an advantage at last year’s T20 World Cup, where they knew in advance where their semi-final would be played [in Guyana]. At the Champions Trophy, India did not have to travel at all. How can a team not travel during a tournament.”

“It is not fair, it’s not cricket. There has to be a level playing field. I know a lot of money comes from India, but cricket ought not to be a one-country sport. It now looks like a one-nation competition and the playing field is not level. To me, the ICC stands for the Indian Cricket Board. India dictates everything. If tomorrow, India says, ‘listen there should be no no-balls and wides,’ take my word, the ICC will find a way to satisfy India.”
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Other boards need to grow spine and say no to india matches being scheduled on Sunday prime time according to India TV. Guess tney don't do that, because they also want a part of that money. BCCI becomes unnecessary villain.

If India match like the one in Guyana is scheduled in advance, icc gets good money. If it's not on weekend broadcasters only pay half of the money. Maybe India should boycott the next 1-2 icc tournament as other boards happily agree to icc terms.
 
Australia last toured to WI in 2015 and
India has toured there since 2015, 5 times. Maybe India shouldn't travel there if Andy is so bitter for BCCI. It's icc and these boards using bcci as money minting machine
 
All of this is whining by some ex-players, commentators etc.

Are they going to pool their savings together and create a parallel board to fight bully BCCI?

Boards have not uttered a peep and nor will they. Their cricketing boards (maybe except ECB/CA and even they depend on India) are propped up by Indian money.

PCB have slashed their wages to lack of funds.
 
saimayubera said:
All of this is whining by some ex-players, commentators etc.

Are they going to pool their savings together and create a parallel board to fight bully BCCI?

Boards have not uttered a peep and nor will they. Their cricketing boards (maybe except ECB/CA and even they depend on India) are propped up by Indian money.

PCB have slashed their wages to lack of funds.
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Despite all this it is 88-77. We can see who is crying. :sendoff
 
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sweep_shot said:
If NZ and India both go to final, NZ's travel schedule would look like this --> Rawalpindi > Dubai > Lahore > Dubai.

Simply insane. I don't know how NZ agreed to this. Complete farce. :inti
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sweep_shot said:
Some teams sometimes have it easy and sometimes they have it rough. It is just the way sports are.

For example, France had it easy in 2018 FIFA WC and they won the final.

Anyway, Aussies can crush all teams. Weak or strong.
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@Rana @JaDed @mominsaigol @Major @Aang_The_last_airbender
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
@Rana @JaDed @mominsaigol @Major @Aang_The_last_airbender
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Why are you even pinging me? India had the biggest advantage in champions trophy but the moment I will say something logical

Misses India @Devadwal will be on her period again.

With that being said, While India had an advantage, Pakistan had advantages in their own den and flopped, they also had an advantage against every other team in chennai except India since chennai is still their home, yet every tom dick and Harry butchered them in wc 2023.

The better question is why can't Pakistan use its advantages to its favour.

Sena teams use wtc final and their home test pitches to bully Asian sides, 2015 aus used every advantage they could think of at home to outright bully every other side in WC.

Yet Pakistan can't do the same thing, infact Pakistan seems more like a home ground for New Zealand then it does for Pakistan itself.
 
saimayubera said:
All of this is whining by some ex-players, commentators etc.

Are they going to pool their savings together and create a parallel board to fight bully BCCI?

Boards have not uttered a peep and nor will they. Their cricketing boards (maybe except ECB/CA and even they depend on India) are propped up by Indian money.

PCB have slashed their wages to lack of funds.
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They won't say a word. BCCi just has to cancel their tour. They should cancel BD and WI series
 
BouncerGuy said:
West Indies pace legend Sir Andy Roberts speaking during an interview:

“Something’s got to give… India can’t get everything. The ICC [International Cricket Council] must say no to India at times. India even had an advantage at last year’s T20 World Cup, where they knew in advance where their semi-final would be played [in Guyana]. At the Champions Trophy, India did not have to travel at all. How can a team not travel during a tournament.”

“It is not fair, it’s not cricket. There has to be a level playing field. I know a lot of money comes from India, but cricket ought not to be a one-country sport. It now looks like a one-nation competition and the playing field is not level. To me, the ICC stands for the Indian Cricket Board. India dictates everything. If tomorrow, India says, ‘listen there should be no no-balls and wides,’ take my word, the ICC will find a way to satisfy India.”
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1900093689315418296
 
BouncerGuy said:
Danish doing his usual stuff...
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Are semi final venues not announced in advance?

ICC schedules India matches on Sundays to mint money.

ICC pre scheduled India semi final venue so that they can get all the eyeballs and sponsors on that ground.

Why blame BCCI?
 
saimayubera said:
All of this is whining by some ex-players, commentators etc.

Are they going to pool their savings together and create a parallel board to fight bully BCCI?

Boards have not uttered a peep and nor will they. Their cricketing boards (maybe except ECB/CA and even they depend on India) are propped up by Indian money.

PCB have slashed their wages to lack of funds.
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This Roberts guy didn't have any qualms over England hosting 3 consecutive WCs. Pity England still couldn't win anything.

Only on their 5th WC at home, they could win it and we all know how they won it even then!
 
What Danish said is what we have been telling from the beginning. Schedule was made last december. Why are they crying foul now.
 
MP2011 said:
Same anger isn't showed towards other fixers like Aamir, Asif, Akram etc though.
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SOme value Salman butt's opinion as well. Message is what we should see. Not the messenger in this case. Sure there are some loonies like Yogaraj singh who talks nonsense.
 
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