Is the IPL overrated?

[R3verse Swing]

400 million people are confused.

You just proved my point. Just because Millions watch the IPL (Most of them in India) doesn't translate to quality. Heck, even Kabbadi would rake in the $$$ given that size of India's population!

 

[rhony]

You just proved my point. Just because Millions watch the IPL (Most of them in India) doesn't translate to quality. Heck, even Kabbadi would rake in the $$$ given that size of India's population!

Nobody proved your point. Infact it's the opposite. 400 million chose to watch this over something else on TV. Considering the amount of content generated on TV and online, it should prove that the product is quality. If it's your personal opinion as the other poster here, that's fine. However, if you think yours is a generic statement, it has been debunked with facts and numbers. Unless you have a tangible proof to show the lack of quality, there is nothing else to discuss

 

[WengerOut]

You just proved my point. Just because Millions watch the IPL (Most of them in India) doesn't translate to quality. Heck, even Kabbadi would rake in the $$$ given that size of India's population!

And quality is something intangible, subjective etc. Like quality of bowling, number of close finishes etc. So obviously your quality will not be my quality. Thus the only quantifiable thing is audiences and financial figures. It is not fools out there to invest money on something low quality which will affect audience and eventually the existence of league.

 

[Gotham Cronie]

Bro . It is not IPL centric my posts. I just get irritated by posts in which subjective opinions are passed off as facts. Whether it is IPL, PSL etc.

PS: I usually watch Max 10 matches through out an IPL season . Not a fan of T20s generally. I just watch any exciting newbies.

Of course. I'm not calling for a ban on all tournaments over a certain duration lol.

Just my personal opinion. If it works for the target audience, then have at it.

 

[rhony]

This was in 2015. I'm sure it's more now considering IPL grew faster than India

“The total economic output associated with IPL matches in India for 2015 is estimated at INR 26.5 billion (USD 418 million). This is the aggregate value of all transactions that took place as a direct, indirect or induced effect of the economic activity of the 2015 matches. Hosting an IPL match also adds value and revenue to the economy of the state,” BCCI said.

“The 2015 season, saw around 20 percent of attendees visiting from cities other than the host city. Also notable were international visitors primarily from the United Kingdom, Australia and South Africa.”

The IPL matches directly affected the economy in a variety of ways, according to the survey. The key benefits and opportunities that arose were employment generation across sectors, tourism development, support of tier two cities providing key media exposure and development of cricket and sport participation across the country.

“It is inspiring to know that IPL has had such a positive impact on India’s economy; the contribution of Rs. 11.5 billion to India’s GDP through a 60-day event is surely testament to the tournament’s success. We look forward to redefine these benchmarks through the upcoming seasons of the IPL and empowering the nation’s economy through our future endeavours,” IPL chairman Rajeev Shukla said.

 

[R3verse Swing]

So basically Korean & Nippon Baseball is better quality than the IPL because it generates more revenue according to the warped logic of some people in this thread.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_sports_leagues_by_revenue

Oh well.

 

[WengerOut]

So basically Korean & Nippon Baseball is better quality than the IPL because it generates more revenue according to the warped logic of some people in this thread.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_sports_leagues_by_revenue

Oh well.

How did you even manage to compare the quality of a baseball match and cricket match ?! Work of a genius

 

[R3verse Swing]

How did you even manage to compare the quality of a baseball match and cricket match ?! Work of a genius

I was highlighting the fallacy that more money equates to higher quality.

Thus the only quantifiable thing is audiences and financial figures.

Your words above, not mine. The fact you do not agree Korean/Nippon baseball is of a higher quality than IPL, proves this point.

Plus, comparison are being made to football in this thread, Kabbadi too, but you have a problem with baseball because it falsifies your point.

 

[WengerOut]

I was highlighting the fallacy that more money equates to higher quality.



Your words above, not mine. The fact you do not agree Korean/Nippon baseball is of a higher quality than IPL, proves this point.

Plus, comparison are being made to football in this thread, Kabbadi too, but you have a problem with baseball because it falsifies your point.

First off all i did not disagree the Korean league is better. Heck I still don't know how to compare them.

The Kabaddi thing , if you noticed was completely in another context not about IPl being overrated or not. I was just wondering. Sorry if it touched a nerve.

 

[BlackShadow]

You just proved my point. Just because Millions watch the IPL (Most of them in India) doesn't translate to quality. Heck, even Kabbadi would rake in the $$$ given that size of India's population!

Quality is -

1) World's top players participating.
2) One of the biggest and best talent pool of any domestic Cricket structure.
3) Quality of broadcast.
4) The atmosphere in the ground.


Not a single T20 league comes even close to IPL when you consider all these factors.

 

[the Great Khan]

I followed the NFL last year. I watched some games, decided to pick a team and see if they got through. I quickly realised what a waste of time it was until the last few games that decide the playoffs and then the playoffs themselves. Now some people will say well the English football season is long too etc etc. But the difference is, a game lasts 90 minutes and most locals have an emotional attachment as it is 100 plus odd years of tradition. Cricket will never achieve this. The game is quite long and is pretty much a whole days worth of commitment.

Therefore I believe a T20 league should have fewer teams, include the elite of the elite of your domestic and some foreign players, and keep quality high. Keep the tournament short and sharp.

60 games is just too much but in a country the size of India I can see why. As a Pakistan fan I just cant sit through it. I may watch a crazy innings or two or some good bowling clips but to sit through a whole season is impossible. That's why I cringe when I hear people like Michael Vaughn going on about how they are Chennai fans or punjab fans..yeah right..Indians yes I can get it..but others I have a hard time believing it..(there can be exceptions,of course)

 

[R3verse Swing]

First off all i did not disagree the Korean league is better. Heck I still don't know how to compare them.

The Kabaddi thing , if you noticed was completely in another context not about IPl being overrated or not. I was just wondering. Sorry if it touched a nerve.

I was using your point of, financial figures determine quality, to demonstrate just how ludicrous the point is. The baseball comparison is relevant because IPL is considered a sports league is it not? Well so is Korean/Nippon baseball, sport leagues.

Also no need to apologise when you have not hit a nerve, on the contrary, anyone who disagrees with the myths surrounding the quality of IPL, is hitting nerves for sixes.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Quality is -

1) World's top players participating.
2) One of the biggest and best talent pool of any domestic Cricket structure.
3) Quality of broadcast.
4) The atmosphere in the ground.


Not a single T20 league comes even close to IPL when you consider all these factors.

This I can work with, but it would be subjective.

The point I was refering to was more money does not equate to higher quality.

 

[rhony]

I was highlighting the fallacy that more money equates to higher quality.



Your words above, not mine. The fact you do not agree Korean/Nippon baseball is of a higher quality than IPL, proves this point.

Plus, comparison are being made to football in this thread, Kabbadi too, but you have a problem with baseball because it falsifies your point.

Quality is relative to the sport. Look at how many baseball leagues make more money than Koran league and u will know how good the quality of that league is that sport. When u gather better knowledge on market Dynamics, you will be able to understand better. With the same thought process, if you think Indian kabaddi league is better in quality than PSL, you are mistaken too

 

[WengerOut]

I was using your point of, financial figures determine quality, to demonstrate just how ludicrous the point is. The baseball comparison is relevant because IPL is considered a sports league is it not? Well so is Korean/Nippon baseball, sport leagues.

Also no need to apologise when you have not hit a nerve, on the contrary, anyone who disagrees with the myths surrounding the quality of IPL, is hitting nerves for sixes.

I dint say financial figures determine quality. I said it ,along with audience are the only quantifiable thing when comparing cricket leagues. Other sports league , financially can be compared and tht is der in that article.

 

[cricketjoshila]

There's over 1.3 billion people in India. They can watch the IPL 365 days a year if they wish and still make money.

Not sure why they would expect fans of other countries to sit and watch their domestic tournament for 2 months of their time.

You are free not to watch your countrys domestic tournament. Why extrapolate it to other countries including IPL.

 

[Gotham Cronie]

You are free not to watch your countrys domestic tournament. Why extrapolate it to other countries including IPL.

Lmao what? My post says exactly that they are free to watch for as many days as they want. It's India's domestic tournament and that is their target audience.

No need to get triggered and so sensitive over a simple opinion of others.

 

[R3verse Swing]

I dint say financial figures determine quality. I said it ,along with audience are the only quantifiable thing when comparing cricket leagues. Other sports league , financially can be compared and tht is der in that article.

What you are describing is *Popularity*.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Lmao what? My post says exactly that they are free to watch for as many days as they want. It's India's domestic tournament and that is their target audience.

No need to get triggered and so sensitive over a simple opinion of others.

Why will i get triggered? Your earlier post said it was beyond you why anyone will watch a 2 month long league.

Then you changed it to Indians can watch but others wont. Bhai talk about yourself.

 

[rhony]

To clarify, my posts are about the question posed by the OP. Is IPL overrated? Personal opinions by some posters are fine and Khan made a valid point about loyalties for the sport outside India. IPL hasn't reached that stage and will never will. However, personal opinions masquerading as generic statements have been met with facts and numbers.

SO to answer the question, Is IPL Overrated? Any product that adds 400 to 500 mil to a country's GDP of 2.2 tril is humongous. So, no. It's not overrated.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Quality is relative to the sport. Look at how many baseball leagues make more money than Koran league and u will know how good the quality of that league is that sport. When u gather better knowledge on market Dynamics, you will be able to understand better. With the same thought process, if you think Indian kabaddi league is better in quality than PSL, you are mistaken too

All I am saying is that factors such as revenue and viewership DO NOT determine quality - but rather popularity.

Is IPL the most popular T20 league in the world? Yes! (Even though it's popularity is largely down to India's population). Does it mean the IPL is the highest quality cricket league in the world? No.

 

[Gotham Cronie]

Why will i get triggered? Your earlier post said it was beyond you why anyone will watch a 2 month long league.

Then you changed it to Indians can watch but others wont. Bhai talk about yourself.

I still don't understand why anybody would, but where did I say they can't? Is that clear enough.

Perhaps go through the entire thread before flying in with your BCCI cape.

 

[Spectrum]

Actually IPL is UNDERRATED by PSL fans.

 

[rhony]

All I am saying is that factors such as revenue and viewership DO NOT determine quality - but rather popularity.

Is IPL the most popular T20 league in the world? Yes! (Even though it's popularity is largely down to India's population). Does it mean the IPL is the highest quality cricket league in the world? No.

Sure, It's your personal opinion as you said earlier. That's fine

 

[sshakir411]

For a tournament that doesn't want approval of other fans, some of you seem really triggered and upset by a simple opinion on the duration LOL.

Hit the nail on the head. Indians on PP will shove IPL down your throat and expect you to sing praises just like they do....don't understand how the 'best league' in the world requires so much forced loving on your guys' part. Pakistanis out of all people don't watch IPL and their opinions should not matter..

 

[sshakir411]

Actually IPL is UNDERRATED by PSL fans.

Sure..but that's because majority of Pakistanis do NOT watch IPL. Not sure why Indian posters on PP have to force Pakistanis to love and sing praises of the IPL just like they do....

 

[R3verse Swing]

Sure, It's your personal opinion as you said earlier. That's fine

As is every other word in this thread, mere opinions.

Whether something is overrated or not is down to personal opinion. You see this all the time in the sphere of Music/Movies - as an example.

Your opinion is the IPL adds 500M to India's 2.2T GDP means IPL is not overrated. Funny how it always comes down to numbers eh?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Hit the nail on the head. Indians on PP will shove IPL down your throat and expect you to sing praises just like they do....don't understand how the 'best league' in the world requires so much forced loving on your guys' part. Pakistanis out of all people don't watch IPL and their opinions should not matter..

You are wrong. You dont watch ipl. Its fine.

But when threads like ipl is overrated. Psl produces talent ipl doesnot. Psl has better teams or psl has better bowlers come up. Then its a comparision and people will then compare.

 

[rhony]

As is every other word in this thread, mere opinions.

Whether something is overrated or not is down to personal opinion. You see this all the time in the sphere of Music/Movies - as an example.

Your opinion is the IPL adds 500M to India's 2.2T GDP means IPL is not overrated. Funny how it always comes down to numbers eh?

Yeah, I knew it's a bit tough for some to understand numbers. Numbers are tangible quantities to explain generic statements or facts. However, personal statements with no proof are quite the opposite.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Too long for my liking but overall the quality of tournament is great.

Fantastic international stars, good to fantastic domestic batsmen, decently good fielding, average bowling. That sums IPL for me.

I will watch it for my favourite established/upcoming players: Starc, ABD, Maxwell, Kohli, Gill, and Nagarkoti.

 

[sshakir411]

You are wrong. You dont watch ipl. Its fine.

But when threads like ipl is overrated. Psl produces talent ipl doesnot. Psl has better teams or psl has better bowlers come up. Then its a comparision and people will then compare.

I didn't say that those threads are right. And it's all okay if you want to discuss IPL vs PSL....I don't understand why most Indian posters on PP get so offended and triggered with the opinion of Pakistanis and try to force in the fact that IPL is the say all be all of T20 cricket...it might be for Indians but not Pakistanis. This is a Pakistani cricket forum with 90% users being from there....it's only common sense that most posts will be skewed towards one country.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Yeah, I knew it's a bit tough for some to understand numbers. Numbers are tangible quantities to explain generic statements or facts. However, personal statements with no proof are quite the opposite.

I thought you might say that, given the numbers I provided, IPL is overrated. Other sport leagues are of better quality and rated much higher if we stick to the numbers argument.

But then again, when you have IPL apologists rating the quality of a sports league by the amount it add to GDP, you are pretty much scraping the bottom of the barrel.

We could also move on to corruption in the league. I am sure it would add much credence to the IPL not being overrated at all.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I didn't say that those threads are right. And it's all okay if you want to discuss IPL vs PSL....I don't understand why most Indian posters on PP get so offended and triggered with the opinion of Pakistanis and try to force in the fact that IPL is the say all be all of T20 cricket...it might be for Indians but not Pakistanis. This is a Pakistani cricket forum with 90% users being from there....it's only common sense that most posts will be skewed towards one country.

I dont understand the need to compare.

 

[rhony]

I thought you might say that, given the numbers I provided, IPL is overrated. Other sport leagues are of better quality and rated much higher if we stick to the numbers argument.

But then again, when you have IPL apologists rating the quality of a sports league by the amount it add to GDP, you are pretty much scraping the bottom of the barrel.

We could also move on to corruption in the league. I am sure it would add much credence to the IPL not being overrated at all.

Please present those numbers instead of pulling statements out of thin air. Better quality is one's perception when someone already made a case of better players. when you say Contributing to economy is bottom of the barrel, it shows your naivety. At the end of the day money talks. Millions of people just dont turn up every year just like that. CHampions T20 league dies a premature death in India for the same reason. Just because there is cricket doesnt mean people will care.

As far as corruption goes, Sharjeel says hi

 

[R3verse Swing]

The market value of PSL in 2017 was up to US$300 million. As a percentage of Pakistan’s GDP, it is higher when comparing IPL’s value to India’s GDP.

Ergo, PSL is of a higher quality.

(Only going by the illogical thinking of some users).

 

[R3verse Swing]

Please present those numbers instead of pulling statements out of thin air. Better quality is one's perception when someone already made a case of better players. when you say Contributing to economy is bottom of the barrel, it shows your naivety. At the end of the day money talks. Millions of people just dont turn up every year just like that. CHampions T20 league dies a premature death in India for the same reason. Just because there is cricket doesnt mean people will care.

As far as corruption goes, Sharjeel says hi

I did present the numbers in a link above.

Yes Sharjeel does say hi, but nothing compared to the long list of IPL players banned, and franchises too!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cricketers_banned_for_corruption

But no, IPL is not overrated at all.

 

[rhony]

The market value of PSL in 2017 was up to US$300 million. As a percentage of Pakistan’s GDP, it is higher when comparing IPL’s value to India’s GDP.

Ergo, PSL is of a higher quality.

(Only going by the illogical thinking of some users).

Now that 300 million USD is something you pulled out of thin air. Present a link or an explanation or remain someone who blabs

 

[IndianFan2018]

Agree with you except the last bit

GO MUMBAI INDIANS

Ha ha...Game On, let's see atleast this time RCB gets that elusive IPL CUP 2

 

[R3verse Swing]

Now that 300 million USD is something you pulled out of thin air. Present a link or an explanation or remain someone who blabs

Read and weep.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Super_League

See how your logic of GDP representation is proportionate to quality is utter garbage?

 

[rhony]

Read and weep.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Super_League

See how your logic of GDP representation is proportionate to quality is utter garbage?

LOL A single guy stating something random with no data to backup and you question the GDP logic. That just shows your naivety again

 

[sshakir411]

False. It's an open forum available to all to discuss all things cricket and people in general interested in Pakistan cricket.

Who said it's not open?

 

[sshakir411]

False. It's an open forum available to all to discuss all things cricket and people in general interested in Pakistan cricket.

I think you missed the part that said 'content on PP is primarily for the consumption of Pakistanis'

 

[R3verse Swing]

LOL A single guy stating something random with no data to backup and you question the GDP logic. That just shows your naivety again

There it is. Now the source is not credible. Why one wonders? Is it because PSL is shown to be of better quality than the IPL using your own logic?

No need to question the GDP logic, it was shot down and blown into smithereens - with great joy!

 

[rhony]

Well.. Atleast my facts will be understandable to some other posters here

 

[rhony]

There it is. Now the source is not credible. Why one wonders? Is it because PSL is shown to be of better quality than the IPL using your own logic?

No need to question the GDP logic, it was shot down and blown into smithereens - with great joy!

Oh...LOL you misinterpreted the market value of a product to the revenue generated per annum. Now I can understand why you were so confused

300 million is the estimated market value of PSL. Doesn't mean PSL generates 300 mil every year and contributes to GDP

400 to 500 mil is the revenue generated directly or indirectly by IPL and hence adds to the GDP every year of India.

With this, I now know who Ive been debating with. LOL

 

[R3verse Swing]

Oh for the rest of you, [MENTION=134505]rhony[/MENTION] doesn't believe Bloomberg's figure of PSL's value of $300M is credible.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...kistan-s-terror-hit-cricket-lures-advertisers

Love it!

 

[CanadianG00se]

There's over 1.3 billion people in India. They can watch the IPL 365 days a year if they wish and still make money.

Not sure why they would expect fans of other countries to sit and watch their domestic tournament for 2 months of their time.

No ones asking anyone to watch our domestic tournament. What we dont get is why would people who doesnt watch or follow IPL are the ones quick to suggest IPL is too long.

IPL is only meant to cater Indian fans globally.

 

[rhony]

In simple terms, what this means is, IPL generates more money every year than PSL is worth in entirety

 

[IndianFan2018]

There's over 1.3 billion people in India. They can watch the IPL 365 days a year if they wish and still make money.

Not sure why they would expect fans of other countries to sit and watch their domestic tournament for 2 months of their time.

Sir please enlighten us, who asked you to watch IPL?

IPL is targeted for Indian fans, neutral fans watching will be of least priority for IPL or BCCI.

As per my memory, IPL marketing folks never made single advert of the tournament for global audience, they always target desi's from last 10 years.

So, if you don't like don't watch it..No one cares. Enjoy with what you like #Peace

 

[rhony]

Oh for the rest of you, [MENTION=134505]rhony[/MENTION] doesn't believe Bloomberg's figure of PSL's value of $300M is credible.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...kistan-s-terror-hit-cricket-lures-advertisers

Love it!

Oh you got Pwned dude. COmparing market value with Revenue generated per annum. LOL

 

[Gotham Cronie]

No ones asking anyone to watch our domestic tournament. What we dont get is why would people who doesnt watch or follow IPL are the ones quick to suggest IPL is too long.

IPL is only meant to cater Indian fans globally.

Go through the thread and try to read slowly from top to bottom and left to right. Any tournament in my opinion that is two months long is too long in my opinion.

It's just an opinion. No need to get triggered and sensitive.

 

[sshakir411]

Oh...LOL you misinterpreted the market value of a product to the revenue generated per annum. Now I can understand why you were so confused

300 million is the estimated market value of PSL. Doesn't mean PSL generates 300 mil every year and contributes to GDP

400 to 500 mil is the revenue generated directly or indirectly by IPL and hence adds to the GDP every year of India.

With this, I now know who Ive been debating with. LOL

Post #119 says MARKET VALUE not REVENUE.

I think you have it mixed up.

 

[sshakir411]

]The market value of PSL in 2017 was up to US$300 million[/B]. As a percentage of Pakistan’s GDP, it is higher when comparing IPL’s value to India’s GDP.

Ergo, PSL is of a higher quality.

(Only going by the illogical thinking of some users).

Market Value....As a percent of GDP...not how much it contributes. Just replying to this so people can read it again...slowly...so it makes sense.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Go through the thread and try to read slowly from top to bottom and left to right. Any tournament in my opinion that is two months long is too long in my opinion.

It's just an opinion. No need to get triggered and sensitive.

But why does it matter to you if its too long?

Lol im not triggered, if anything you are out of reasoning. Just accept it you’re hater.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Oh...LOL you misinterpreted the market value of a product to the revenue generated per annum. Now I can understand why you were so confused

300 million is the estimated market value of PSL. Doesn't mean PSL generates 300 mil every year and contributes to GDP

400 to 500 mil is the revenue generated directly or indirectly by IPL and hence adds to the GDP every year of India.

With this, I now know who Ive been debating with. LOL

You can make things up as you go along, but even if we grant you the notion. PSL's revenue as a percentage of Pakistan GDP is still higher.

 

[rhony]

Market Value....As a percent of GDP...not how much it contributes. Just replying to this so people can read it again...slowly...so it makes sense.

Please stop. It's embarrassing. The total market value of all tangible assets in Pakistan is way way way way way more than it's GDP. Can't compare market value with GDP.

 

[rhony]

You can make things up as you go along, but even if we grant you the notion. PSL's revenue as a percentage of Pakistan GDP is still higher.

Let's stop. This is too one sided now

 

[IndianFan2018]

Oh bhai, it's an opinion. I'm on the record in the past (again, read my posts or the articles that I wrote for PakPassion) that any tournament that drags on for close to two months is too long in my opinion. I had wrote that even regarding Pakistani tournaments at that time.

For a tournament that doesn't want approval of other fans, some of you seem really triggered and upset by a simple opinion on the duration LOL.

IPL or BCCI gives jack about what neutral think about it, as long as they have biggest cricket watching market of their own to entertain.

On topic, IPL is underrated ...will achieve much more in coming years

 

[sshakir411]

Please stop. It's embarrassing. The total market value of all tangible assets in Pakistan is way way way way way more than it's GDP. Can't compare market value with GDP.

Who compared that? I was pointing out what that post said....

again...read it slowly

"The market value of PSL in 2017 was up to US$300 million. As a percentage of Pakistan’s GDP, it is higher when comparing IPL’s value to India’s GDP"

I was pointing out that Reverse Swing no where mentioned the PSL revenue to be $300MM like you claimed.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Let's stop. This is too one sided now

Yes we should, dissing Bloomberg as a source, I should have known.

You should do your research before you making silly GDP claims to determine quality, especially when your warped logic puts Pakistan ahead. They call it - shooting yourself in the foot.

 

[rhony]

Market Value....As a percent of GDP...not how much it contributes. Just replying to this so people can read it again...slowly...so it makes sense.

The brand value of IPL in 2017 is more than 5 billion dollars. As I said earlier, when you talk about GDP and a contribution of something to GDP, you look at how much it contributes annually. That's the revenue it generates per year

 

[rhony]

Yes we should, dissing Bloomberg as a source, I should have known.

You should do your research before you making silly GDP claims to determine quality, especially when your warped logic puts Pakistan ahead. They call it - shooting yourself in the foot.

LOL. Atleast you have learned something today. That's a plus for both of us for future debates.

I did my research, presented the facts but didn't know who I was debating with until I saw brand value vs annual revenues. That's when I knew

 

[Gotham Cronie]

IPL or BCCI gives jack about what neutral think about it, as long as they have biggest cricket watching market of their own to entertain.

On topic, IPL is underrated ...will achieve much more in coming years

Sir please enlighten us, who asked you to watch IPL?

IPL is targeted for Indian fans, neutral fans watching will be of least priority for IPL or BCCI.

As per my memory, IPL marketing folks never made single advert of the tournament for global audience, they always target desi's from last 10 years.

So, if you don't like don't watch it..No one cares. Enjoy with what you like #Peace

But why does it matter to you if its too long?

Lol im not triggered, if anything you are out of reasoning. Just accept it you’re hater.

We don't care what you think. It doesn't matter to us. We don't need you.

Yet here we are because we didn't like your opinion

 

[R3verse Swing]

LOL. Atleast you have learned something today. That's a plus for both of us for future debates.

I did my research, presented the facts but didn't know who I was debating with until I saw brand value vs annual revenues. That's when I knew

You obviously do not realise how revenues determine value.

You have learned 3 things today, where as I have learned that Indians always cite numbers as some kind of justification of quality and when the numbers do not fit the narrative, the source is dodgy!

Happy days!

 

[IndianFan2018]

Sure..but that's because majority of Pakistanis do NOT watch IPL. Not sure why Indian posters on PP have to force Pakistanis to love and sing praises of the IPL just like they do....

Bhai no one is asking to sing praise of IPL, when posters come out and bash Indian league people do give counter points.

 

[sshakir411]

The brand value of IPL in 2017 is more than 5 billion dollars. As I said earlier, when you talk about GDP and a contribution of something to GDP, you look at how much it contributes annually. That's the revenue it generates per year

Read post #119. It clearly says the market value as a percentage of GDP...no where does it say how much the market value contributes to the GDP. If that's what you want to discuss then take it up with him.

 

[sshakir411]

Bhai no one is asking to sing praise of IPL, when posters come out and bash Indian league people do give counter points.

bhai...IPL is being shoved down our throats when we of all people care least about it. Just go through the thread...and you'll see Indians are calling others haters for saying 'any tournament that goes for 2 months is too long'

 

[rhony]

Read post #119. It clearly says the market value as a percentage of GDP...no where does it say how much the market value contributes to the GDP. If that's what you want to discuss then take it up with him.

Yeah, he got confused between brand value and revenues. That's fine. Everybody will have to learn something sometime

 

[cricketjoshila]

LOL A single guy stating something random with no data to backup and you question the GDP logic. That just shows your naivety again

Brand value of IPL is 5.3bn USD.


https://www.google.co.in/amp/www.li...mp&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=googleamp

PSL is nowhere.

 

[rhony]

Brand value of IPL is 5.3bn USD.


https://www.google.co.in/amp/www.li...mp&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=googleamp

PSL is nowhere.

Yeah, I was discussing annual revenues and it's contributon to GDP and there was some confusion on the other side. All cleared now

 

[CanadianG00se]

bhai...IPL is being shoved down our throats when we of all people care least about it. Just go through the thread...and you'll see Indians are calling others haters for saying 'any tournament that goes for 2 months is too long'

Those IPL fans including myself trying to understand the logic when someone feels IPL is too long or boring or low in quality when they are not even following it? You see if you dont watch something, its quality or length shouldnt matter to you. I dont watch PSL, but you wont see us IPL fans calling PSL too long or low in quality or what not. Every league is meant to cater specific market, and IPL is targetting INDIANS only. If i recalled correctly, IPL were even against tragetting neutrals, quite frankly they dont even need to.

Anyways, let us all enjoy whatever we like it, be it PSL, IPL, Int test series, Odi series, or domestic games.

 

[sshakir411]

Those IPL fans including myself trying to understand the logic when someone feels IPL is too long or boring or low in quality when they are not even following it? You see if you dont watch something, its quality or length shouldnt matter to you. I dont watch PSL, but you wont see us IPL fans calling PSL too long or low in quality or what not. Every league is meant to cater specific market, and IPL is targetting INDIANS only. If i recalled correctly, IPL were even against tragetting neutrals, quite frankly they dont even need to.

Anyways, let us all enjoy whatever we like it, be it PSL, IPL, Int test series, Odi series, or domestic games.

Take it up with that guy man. I have nothing to do with this comparison.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Super sports the South African broadcaster offered more money for IPL rights than for rights of GLT20 or the franchisee league of SA.

Broadcasters from all over the world came to bid for IPL. So ofcourse there is world wide reach of ipl and popularity.


https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...tive-rights/story-RA1LOPqaQcWBUQ0j1Vt9WN.html

 

[Ellipsism]

Root obviously skipped the tri-series because he was very confident that he would get picked for the IPL. If you look at it from his perspective (with the assumption that he was going to get an IPL contract), there was no point of playing in a week long series, when he was going to play in a two month long tournament of high quality T20 cricket with a lot of money on the table.

Playing 2-3 matches over a week is not going to improve the T20 skills of a player. However, if you want to really improve your T20 skills, the IPL is the place to be. A two month long tournament with a gruelling schedule against a variety of quality sides. It really does not get better than that. In hindsight, it was a poor decision by Root, as he overestimated his value to the IPL franchises.

Secondly, the amount of money Unadkat and Tye fetch has nothing to do with the prestige of the league. The IPL is the gold standard in franchise T20 cricket because it has lead the way for other leagues who are nothing but poor imitations, and it has been around longer than the other leagues. It has the largest fan base and is at a different level in terms of popularity.

That is what makes the IPL more prestigious than the other tournaments, not how many millions player X and player Y get.

I do not agree that if all leagues achieve parity in terms of the financial incentives that they provide, players would choose the BBL. The BBL is better than the PSL, CPL and BBL, but it is insignificant compared to the IPL, a league that has developed its own history now, and winning it actually means something. It is the only league where there is genuine pressure on the players to perform. It is not a paid holiday for pensioners and other dead cricketers.

A two week long T20 series in an array of conditions>IPL

Logically speaking there’s going to be added pressure on a player to perform when a team has played millions for them. If we throw out this entire concept of money is there really any added pressure on a player playing in the IPL than per day the BBL?

IPL having its own history in what sense? All leagues have some sort of century, I don’t get the point your trying to make in terms of its supposed prestige. Make no mistake about it, just because of the large wards of cash owners wave around this doesn’t create a sense of aura or this supposed prestige.

 

[Ellipsism]

Andrew Tye is pretty good T20 bowler, what's the problem if he fetches millions ?

If IPL scouts see the potential and owner pay for such players;

Like in every business, IPL auction too includes Risk of bad Investment (RCB spent 12 CR Rupees to nothing bowler Tymal Mills last season, but no complaints that's part of the deal.. you get some good'n some bad!)... Cheers

He’s a poor mans Mustafizur, that’s it. He’s lost a lost of pace.

 

[IndianFan2018]

He’s a poor mans Mustafizur, that’s it. He’s lost a lost of pace.

Sorry you are talking about Tye or Mills ?

 

[Ellipsism]

Sorry you are talking about Tye or Mills ?

Tye.

 

[DRsohail]

IPL is huge.Pakistani posters should know it before posting,But PSL s providing exciting criket for pakistani and we love it.Thats it.

 

[IndianFan2018]

Tye.

As per BBL bowling charts...Tye seems to be doing good in T20 matches at least.

 

[shane]

As a money-making machine, it is certainly not overrated. As a cricket spectacle, it is probably also not overrated since nobody (apart from Indians) actually rates it.