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Islamabad and Lahore: Some of the safest cities in South Asia

So many cities from Brazil in list of Top 10 unsafe cities . Why?

Why is there so much crime and violence in Brazil when its also one of the developing countries like India, China, Pakistan etc.
 
So many cities from Brazil in list of Top 10 unsafe cities . Why?

Why is there so much crime and violence in Brazil when its also one of the developing countries like India, China, Pakistan etc.

Would like to visit Brazil someday but high crime rate has been my worry. This is the one reason I didn;t plan to watch some olympic action there last time.
 
Delhi has the worst crime rate in South Asia, even Karachi is safer.
 
This must be a joke. Pakistani cities have a huge crime problem. There's no place in Pakistan where you can walk outside talking on your Iphone without the fear of being mugged.
 
Great, now let's focus our attention on cleaning Pakistan. Oh and Lahore could do with 20 billion trees. Rawalpindi needs flattening and starting over, as for Karachi... Well there is no hope folks.
 
This must be a joke. Pakistani cities have a huge crime problem. There's no place in Pakistan where you can walk outside talking on your Iphone without the fear of being mugged.

Maybe you haven't heard of London's crime rate

Come to the East London and you'll see how bad it is. Getting mugged is common
 
Maybe you haven't heard of London's crime rate

Come to the East London and you'll see how bad it is. Getting mugged is common

People in Pakistan get murdered in broadday light. In the UK every crime is reported and govt cares enough to get the crime rate right, in Pakistan they have no such system.
 
Maybe you haven't heard of London's crime rate

Come to the East London and you'll see how bad it is. Getting mugged is common

He'd be the first to be dropped like a hot potato in London. Don't encourage him.
 
People in Pakistan get murdered in broadday light. In the UK every crime is reported and govt cares enough to get the crime rate right, in Pakistan they have no such system.

...They cared enough for London to become the 'murder capital' of Europe. LOL.
 
London would be considered paradise compared to any city in Pakistan.

That wasn't the crux of my argument, perhaps you have comprehension issues. Let me explain, in layman terms.. pretty much every country has a crime problem, Pakistan isn't exempt from this scourge. London has a serious knife problem and this is a bleeding fact, acknowlege it. Don't hop, skip and jump around this point.
 
That wasn't the crux of my argument, perhaps you have comprehension issues. Let me explain, in layman terms.. pretty much every country has a crime problem, Pakistan isn't exempt from this scourge. London has a serious knife problem and this is a bleeding fact, acknowlege it. Don't hop, skip and jump around this point.

Except there's no way in hell Lahore and Islamabad are among the safest cities in Asia :)) :)) :))
 
People in Pakistan get murdered in broadday light. In the UK every crime is reported and govt cares enough to get the crime rate right, in Pakistan they have no such system.

Doesn't make it any better does it?

Most muggings aren't even reported because the people know that the police ain't gonna do anything about it.
 
No it wouldn't. I've lived in Lahore for 2 years. Compare some areas of London to Lahore and you'd think Lahore is paradise

Oh really? Compare gun related murder rate in Lahore to London? Heck compare London police to Punjab police, the latter are worse than animals.
 
This must be a joke. Pakistani cities have a huge crime problem. There's no place in Pakistan where you can walk outside talking on your Iphone without the fear of being mugged.
When in Pakistan, i walk the streets of lahore whilst talking in 3 mobile
phones, draped in gold like Mr. T and flashy wads of cash like loadsamoney!
Never been mugged!
 
In south Asia reporting crime is not that simple.. not sure how many people have actually gone to get a report written with the police.

In Bangalore when my phone was stolen the police made me write the complaint as “gone missing” not stolen.. hope you see the loophole..

I had to get the fir as i needed to get the duplicate sim which i could get with FIR only.. so I didn’t wanna waste time..
 
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In south Asia reporting crime is not that simple.. not sure how many people have actually gone to get a report written with the police.

In Bangalore when my phone was stolen the police made me write the complaint as “gone missing” not stolen.. hope you see the loophole..

I had to get the fir as i needed to get the duplicate sim which i could get with FIR only.. so I didn’t wanna waste time..
And did the cops confiscate your wallet?
Most people i know, avoid the police in Pakistan, at all cost!
 
And did the cops confiscate your wallet?
Most people i know, avoid the police in Pakistan, at all cost!

They took 100 rs, not sure how it is now this was 2008, so if in Pak they avoid Police then they are not even reporting the crime..
 
Islamabad safter than Oslo and Lahore equally safe as Oslo lol, really surprised but happy for Pakistan.
 
Some people are not happy on return of test cricket in Pakistan and the same people don't believe Lahore and Islamabad are reported to be the cities with much improved crime rate, wonder why :vk1
 
While Pakistani cities are in general safer than the media suggests, these rankings are not based on any official data. They are calculated from online surveys conducted by the numbeo website itself where anyone can add information about their city/country. They are as reliable as imdb movie ratings.
 
While Pakistani cities are in general safer than the media suggests, these rankings are not based on any official data. They are calculated from online surveys conducted by the numbeo website itself where anyone can add information about their city/country. They are as reliable as imdb movie ratings.

The indexes are the result of a more scientific approach than you have alluded to:

This section is based on surveys from visitors of this website. Questions for these surveys are similar to many similar scientific and government surveys.
Each entry in the survey is saved as the number in the range [-2, +2], with -2 having meaning of strongly negative and +2 meaning of strongly positive.
We filter surveys to eliminate potential spam, like people entering a large amount of data which are differentiating from the median value.
To present survey result, we use the scale [0, 100] for values since it is easier to read for users.
To generate a current index (which is always updated) we use data up to 36 months old. We include only cities for which there are at least a certain number of contributors. Our semiannual index is remade twice per year by pushing current index into this historical view.
Crime Index is an estimation of overall level of crime in a given city or a country. We consider crime levels lower than 20 as very low, crime levels between 20 and 40 as being low, crime levels between 40 and 60 as being moderate, crime levels between 60 and 80 as being high and finally crime levels higher than 80 as being very high.
Safety index is, on the other way, quite opposite of crime index. If the city has a high safety index, it is considered very safe.
Is this much less accurate than governmental statistics? In some countries, governments have a detailed statistics based on a number of reported crimes per capita. Those surveys are particular good in comparing crime between two cities in that country, but are not so good in cross country comparison for the following reasons:
people in some countries are much more likely to report a crime than in other countries
data could be forged by governmental institutions
data are not available for most of the world
 
During early 2010s, I went to local police station to obtain permission for an event. Suddenly few people showed up with a bloodied man in a vehicle. He was badly beaten up by a mob of 20-25 people. Police sent him to government hospital and forced his relatives to name only four people otherwise they'll not cooperate. I asked the policeman I knew about insistence on naming only four accused. He said - If they will have more accused with the severe nature of the beating, it has to be filed as a riot. Which will show up in the statistics with all kinds of inquiries and paperwork to follow.

Since then I don't take these crime statistics seriously.
 
The indexes are the result of a more scientific approach than you have alluded to:

Fair enough. Though personally I am not convinced.

Any survey based on the responses of random people on the internet is not really representative as it is only considering people who have internet access and have for some reason chosen to fill out the form on this website. Also without incorporating any actual data on crime, the rankings are be based on participants opinions and perceptions about crime in their city rather than facts. Of course it is possible that they have a sophisticated model that takes all these factors into account but without knowing the details of the methodology, it seems more like an opinion poll.
 
I find it hard to believe either of those cities are anywhere as safe as Oslo lol. My grandparents house was robbed and they lived in one of the nicest parts of Lahore, my aunt was mugged right outside my cousins school and this is one of the schools where all the rich people in Lahore send there kids, another one of my cousins had his house robbed.
 
I find it hard to believe either of those cities are anywhere as safe as Oslo lol. My grandparents house was robbed and they lived in one of the nicest parts of Lahore, my aunt was mugged right outside my cousins school and this is one of the schools where all the rich people in Lahore send there kids, another one of my cousins had his house robbed.

Lol what type of reasoning that?
So you think people don't get robbed in Oslo?
 
In south Asia reporting crime is not that simple.. not sure how many people have actually gone to get a report written with the police.

In Bangalore when my phone was stolen the police made me write the complaint as “gone missing” not stolen.. hope you see the loophole..

I had to get the fir as i needed to get the duplicate sim which i could get with FIR only.. so I didn’t wanna waste time..

This is a common practice in all over india. If you complain for stolen item, they'll report it under "Gone Missing" meaning they don't have to persue and can easily close the case.
 
Pakistan is so safe, you can leave your doors unlocked when you go out, just like dubai!
Trying doing that in india, when you come back, theres new locks on the door and a new family living in your house!
Pakistan is completely safe and everyone (except RAW agents) are welcome!
 
Islamabad among the safest cities in the world, beats London, Paris

Islamabad has been ranked among the world’s safest cities after a significant drop in its crime rate, according to a survey carried out by Numbeo.

The capital city climbed 69 levels to 302 from previous ranking of 232 in the list of 374 cities and stands at the crime index of 28.63, registering a four per cent drop in its crime rate.

The Numbeo is a crowd-sourced global database of reported consumer prices, perceived crime rates, quality of health care, among other statistics.

Islamabad is safer than cities like London which stands at 107 with a crime index of 47.63, Paris at 111 with a crime index of 48.16, Berlin at 201 with a crime index of 59.03, Moscow at 206 with a crime index of 59.61, and Shanghai at 242 with a crime index of 63.69.

Abu Dhabi has been ranked the world’s safest city which has the lowest crime index of 11.33, according to the survey.

It was named the city with the highest safety index of 88.67.

Abu Dhabi grabbed the number one spot while Sharjah ranked fifth safest and Dubai was ranked as the seventh safest city in the world with its safety index at 82.95.

Joining Abu Dhabi in the top ten are Taipei, Quebec, Zurich, Dubai, Munich, Eskisehir, and Bern.

https://arynews.tv/en/islamabad-among-safest-cities-world/
 
All these sites which list Pakistan as the top destination country, Islamabad safest city etc are these international recognized top sites or just «do number» sites no-one has heard about?
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]
What do you think, is this correct? Islamabad is the safest in South Asia? Don't you think Delhi is safer than Islamabad?
 
Most cities are safer than London lol
London isn't just what you see on TV.
come east london and you'll see what i'm trynna say
 
Not as much as in any city in Pakistan. Norway is one of the safest and most peaceful countries in the world.

Is it indeed. Just that the rise of far right there makes me uncomfortable these days. Who knows how many got inspired by Andre Brevik.
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]
What do you think, is this correct? Islamabad is the safest in South Asia? Don't you think Delhi is safer than Islamabad?

It won’t be an exaggeration to say so. Islamabad is a small, planned city with reasonably efficient police force. Plus, because of the presence of diplomats, the security forces are always on their toes.

If you enter Islamabad with a non-Islamabad registered car plate, they will often check your car from top to bottom.

Other South Asian cities like Delhi, Mumbai, Karachi, Lahore, Dhaka etc. are overpopulated with law and order issues. However, I wonder how Islamabad would compare to Sri Lankan cities like Colombo.
 
Islo is being compared with Delhi, wah ji wah.


Comparison between karachi and Lahore with Delhi would have made sense but Islamabad?

Let me grab Apples and Oranges.
 
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All these sites which list Pakistan as the top destination country, Islamabad safest city etc are these international recognized top sites or just «do number» sites no-one has heard about?

Condé Nast Traveller was the one that listed Pakistan as the best holiday destination, it's an award-winning travel magazine.

A Forbes contributor listed Pakistan as one of the best 'under-the-radar' destinations.

The report about Islamabad's low crime-rate is from Numbeo which is based on crowd-sourced information about areas all over the world. Numbeo is often used as a source by many major media and news outlets but the information there can be biased.
 
Condé Nast Traveller was the one that listed Pakistan as the best holiday destination, it's an award-winning travel magazine.

A Forbes contributor listed Pakistan as one of the best 'under-the-radar' destinations.

The report about Islamabad's low crime-rate is from Numbeo which is based on crowd-sourced information about areas all over the world. Numbeo is often used as a source by many major media and news outlets but the information there can be biased.

Thank you bro. Then these newz are actually big newz. From being called a «terrorist country» to these results is some change I must say, Ma sha Allah
 
Condé Nast Traveller was the one that listed Pakistan as the best holiday destination, it's an award-winning travel magazine.

A Forbes contributor listed Pakistan as one of the best 'under-the-radar' destinations.

The report about Islamabad's low crime-rate is from Numbeo which is based on crowd-sourced information about areas all over the world. Numbeo is often used as a source by many major media and news outlets but the information there can be biased.

No media outlet in the west would use Numbeo as a source, simply because of how it collects its information.

Of course it's bias, Pakistanis will always inflate how safe their city is and Western countries will always inflate how dangerous their city is.

This is the reason why one country is safe and the other isn't.

Because the standards of people in the west are much higher and they are not biased with patriotism.

Instead they demand constant improvements.
 
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