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Israeli female soldier fights with dozens of Ultra Orthodox Jews

Damn. I wonder what the reaction would be if it were Pakistan or a Muslim country. Gotta say Israeli women are tough as hell...knew one during college and she intimidated all the boys. When I asked her why she was so stern, her reply was "I served in the Army after I turned 18 and everyone here is very immature"
 
Good for this girl for sticking up for herself. What is the matter with them, thirty men to one girl? Bunch of pansies.
 
Good for this girl for sticking up for herself. What is the matter with them, thirty men to one girl? Bunch of pansies.

These are Ultra Orthodox Jews, you will be hard pressed to find a couple of videos of them being violent. She is a member of the IDF , a state terrorist group and you will find hundreds of videos of their violence. She wasn't alone either, the IDF are not too far away from any area. If one of them even attempted to make physical contact with them, they would have been beaten badly by IDF women and men.

Do you know them on twitter? I have interacted with some who are very active there.

Yes, it's their job to promote their propaganda. I gave up debating with them, they only follow scripts to questions they think they will receive.
 
I dont see anything spectacular in it. Apart from her courage that is. Those guys arent even trying to fight it seems.

Perhaps she knows that these folks wont really attack her as violently as a motivated mob.
 
These are Ultra Orthodox Jews, you will be hard pressed to find a couple of videos of them being violent. She is a member of the IDF , a state terrorist group and you will find hundreds of videos of their violence.

You see a "state terrorist" while I see a girl on her own being harassed by a mob. I like to think I would have been brave enough to go in and help her. Mrs Robert would have piled in there in a flash.

Some absolutely sickening racist and holocaust denial comments on YouTube regarding this.
 
These are Ultra Orthodox Jews, you will be hard pressed to find a couple of videos of them being violent. She is a member of the IDF , a state terrorist group and you will find hundreds of videos of their violence. She wasn't alone either, the IDF are not too far away from any area. If one of them even attempted to make physical contact with them, they would have been beaten badly by IDF women and men.



Yes, it's their job to promote their propaganda. I gave up debating with them, they only follow scripts to questions they think they will receive.


Ultra Orthodox Jews can be very aggressive towards women, and secular culture in general. They expect women to be covered up and to fulfil their 'divinely appointed role' as wives and mothers. In this respect, they are not that dissimilar from Muslim extremists.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/sep/21/israelandthepalestinians.middleeast1
 
You see a "state terrorist" while I see a girl on her own being harassed by a mob. I like to think I would have been brave enough to go in and help her. Mrs Robert would have piled in there in a flash.

Some absolutely sickening racist and holocaust denial comments on YouTube regarding this.

The girl is wearing an IDF uniform not dressed as Cinderella going to the ball. She is part of an occuyping force who use violence against innocent people, as she has done in this video.

The Ultra Jews were protesting the arrest of two people who do not want to serve in the army. Cinderalla then made them move their protest to allow a car through and she wasnt on her own. She was deliberately antagonising a peaceful protest. When the Jews asked her to leave them alone she started doing fancy, silly kicks as you can see because there were other IDF soldiers with guns right there too.

She was the harasser and the bully. If you want to help such people, it's a shame.

Btw nothing wrong with denying or questioning any historical event.
 
Ultra Orthodox Jews can be very aggressive towards women, and secular culture in general. They expect women to be covered up and to fulfil their 'divinely appointed role' as wives and mothers. In this respect, they are not that dissimilar from Muslim extremists.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/sep/21/israelandthepalestinians.middleeast1

This is their belief. Many people think Muslims who wear the headscarf or pray to their God five times a day are also extreme. I dont think anyone has the right to label someone extreme because of their beliefs which do not harm them.

My point still stands, they(vast majority) do not go around hurting innocent people, the IDF do.
 
The girl is wearing an IDF uniform not dressed as Cinderella going to the ball. She is part of an occuyping force who use violence against innocent people, as she has done in this video.

The Ultra Jews were protesting the arrest of two people who do not want to serve in the army. Cinderalla then made them move their protest to allow a car through and she wasnt on her own. She was deliberately antagonising a peaceful protest. When the Jews asked her to leave them alone she started doing fancy, silly kicks as you can see because there were other IDF soldiers with guns right there too.

She was the harasser and the bully. If you want to help such people, it's a shame.

Btw nothing wrong with denying or questioning any historical event.

It depends if one is a racist and choosing to believe a distortion of history which justifies one's wickedness to oneself. Did you read the comments? Too many young people believe this poison now. You think they think any more of Muslims? They do not. Jews and Muslims are equally subhuman to them. This country is going to turn bad after Brexit, the poison will bubble to the surface. They wil turn on the Jews, they will turn on you, they will turn on my wife.
 
It depends if one is a racist and choosing to believe a distortion of history which justifies one's wickedness to oneself. Did you read the comments? Too many young people believe this poison now. You think they think any more of Muslims? They do not. Jews and Muslims are equally subhuman to them. This country is going to turn bad after Brexit, the poison will bubble to the surface. They wil turn on the Jews, they will turn on you, they will turn on my wife.

No I didnt read the comments but I agree if people use historical events to further their racism it's wrong. I just feel no historical event should be immune from discussion or even rejection.
 
This is their belief. Many people think Muslims who wear the headscarf or pray to their God five times a day are also extreme. I dont think anyone has the right to label someone extreme because of their beliefs which do not harm them.

My point still stands, they(vast majority) do not go around hurting innocent people, the IDF do.



With respect, it is not about belief, it is about their attitude towards women, and their hatred - and absolute rejection of - secular society.

Had you taken the time to read the article, you would have become aware that Orthodox Jews - the most extreme sects amongst them - can be, and are, violent towards women.

You are so busy posting anti-IDF comments, that you are deliberately and knowingly turning away from the truth. For your benefit, then, here is an excerpt from the piece:

Mikhail, who is reluctant to give her full name, had scandalised members of her ultra-orthodox Jewish community by leaving her husband and embracing a secular lifestyle. The men, all members of the theologically conservative Haredi branch of Judaism, tackled her to the ground, slammed her head against the floor and tied a rag around her mouth. One assailant sat on her head as the others kicked her while demanding to know the names of the men she was seeing.

They also threatened to kill her
if she did not leave the neighbourhood, which contains many secular as well as religious residents. 'A woman is only OK if she has a family, kids and a husband,' said Mikhail with a sigh.
 
With respect, it is not about belief, it is about their attitude towards women, and their hatred - and absolute rejection of - secular society.

Had you taken the time to read the article, you would have become aware that Orthodox Jews - the most extreme sects amongst them - can be, and are, violent towards women.

You are so busy posting anti-IDF comments, that you are deliberately and knowingly turning away from the truth. For your benefit, then, here is an excerpt from the piece:

Mikhail, who is reluctant to give her full name, had scandalised members of her ultra-orthodox Jewish community by leaving her husband and embracing a secular lifestyle. The men, all members of the theologically conservative Haredi branch of Judaism, tackled her to the ground, slammed her head against the floor and tied a rag around her mouth. One assailant sat on her head as the others kicked her while demanding to know the names of the men she was seeing.

They also threatened to kill her
if she did not leave the neighbourhood, which contains many secular as well as religious residents. 'A woman is only OK if she has a family, kids and a husband,' said Mikhail with a sigh.

My point was these Jews are not as violent as the IDF. It's a very simple point ,do you agree or not?

It's a good thing they reject secular society and most reject the state of Israel as being legitimate which is very true.

They have their personal beliefs regarding how men and women behave but if you're trying to claim they are ALL violent towards women based on what you have quoted, you are generalising a whole community.

Again its a matter of opinion what is extreme and what is not. What you find extreme they dont and many find you being a Muslim is an extreme way of life.
 
My point was these Jews are not as violent as the IDF. It's a very simple point ,do you agree or not?

It's a good thing they reject secular society and most reject the state of Israel as being legitimate which is very true.

They have their personal beliefs regarding how men and women behave but if you're trying to claim they are ALL violent towards women based on what you have quoted, you are generalising a whole community.

Again its a matter of opinion what is extreme and what is not. What you find extreme they dont and many find you being a Muslim is an extreme way of life.

Unarmed blokes in street less violent than professional army surrounded by hostile forces who would have annihilated a less capable foe decades ago.

'False equivalence' doesn't really cut it any more......
 
Unarmed blokes in street less violent than professional army surrounded by hostile forces who would have annihilated a less capable foe decades ago.

'False equivalence' doesn't really cut it any more......

Not sure what you mean Robert but I have no respect for anyone who wears the IDF uniform, man or women. As far as im concerned they deserve the worst in this world and hereafter.
 
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