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Jasprit Bumrah vs Hasan Ali - Who is the better white-ball bowler?

In ODIs, Hasan is better. If you include T20s too, Bumrah has done much more than Hasan.
 
Hassan havent played too many t20 so far,
I think Bumrah is best death overs bowler right now and Hassan Ali is best in Middle overs
 
hassan ali by far. bumrah only shined in t20 leagues. hasan ali has proved himself on a big stage i.e champions trophy final and with hardly any games at home. bumrah is taking wickets at home mainly.
 
Hasan is the more complete bowler and will be better in ODIs in the long run.

However i think Bumrah will be the better T20 bowler due to his yorker and death bowling speciality
 
Who will give you ball if you have 10 runs to defend in last over...I will go with Bumrah
 
hassan ali by far. bumrah only shined in t20 leagues. hasan ali has proved himself on a big stage i.e champions trophy final and with hardly any games at home. bumrah is taking wickets at home mainly.

More than half of Bumrah's wickets in ODIs are away from home.
 
Who will give you ball if you have 10 runs to defend in last over...I will go with Bumrah

With Hasan Ali the situation won't even arise to defend that low of a number in the final over. Teams are getting bowled out long before they even come close to the scores we are scoring.
 
More than half of Bumrah's wickets in ODIs are away from home.

Yeah against mighty Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka. He has 9 wickets against Zimbabwe and 15 against Sri Lanka out of 52 total wickets where his economy is 2.98 and 3.90 respectively. No wonder his overall economy look so skewed.

Truth be told he is at best a minnow basher and HTB at best.
 
Hasan is better in ODIs but I think Bumrah is better in T20s, but the margin by which Hasan is better in ODIs is quite considerable. He is the best ODI bowler in the world at the moment.
 
Yeah against mighty Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka. He has 9 wickets against Zimbabwe and 15 against Sri Lanka out of 52 total wickets where his economy is 2.98 and 3.90 respectively. No wonder his overall economy look so skewed.

Truth be told he is at best a minnow basher and HTB at best.

Wasn't it with the same Sri Lanka team that Pak lost a Test series a few weeks ago? Then is Pak a minnow team too? I wonder why some of our Pak brothers find it hard to admit and appreciate the efforts of an Indian pace bowler. You are not the only one I saw in this forum, people calling him names and saying his action made them throw up and stuff. I don't deny the fact that everybody is acccustomed to their opinions about a certain player, but the way few people express their views in this forum is just heinous!
 
Wasn't it with the same Sri Lanka team that Pak lost a Test series a few weeks ago? Then is Pak a minnow team too? I wonder why some of our Pak brothers find it hard to admit and appreciate the efforts of an Indian pace bowler. You are not the only one I saw in this forum, people calling him names and saying his action made them throw up and stuff. I don't deny the fact that everybody is acccustomed to their opinions about a certain player, but the way few people express their views in this forum is just heinous!

Either you're clueless or giving out false information intentionally. This Sri Lankan team Pakistan whitewashed 5-0 in odis less than a month ago just like India and you've been on this forum for long enough to know this. No need to get butt hurt so much. I never made fun of Bumrah at all I don't know why you're targeting me.

I only stated a fact. That his bowling average and overall economy is heavenly skewed due to bashing minnows. With statistics which people like you love to degrade and insult Amir with. if you don't like it here there are countless Indian forums where you'd fit right in.
 
not a valid comparison this. Hasan is a complete bowler whereas Bumrah is in the mould of rumman raees tanvir the fizz etc but better :bhajji
 
Hasan is better in ODIs but I think Bumrah is better in T20s, but the margin by which Hasan is better in ODIs is quite considerable. He is the best ODI bowler in the world at the moment.

Hasan is a complete bowler, he can be successful in tests too, I doubt Bumrah can.
 
Hasan is far more complete, and most importantly, he is a wicket-taker. Bumrah is a defensive bowler.
 
Hassan has no weaknesses and is the.bowler anyone with half an intelligence would go with who will win you the match. Bumrah is an ok bowler. That's where it ends..
 
Credit to Bumrah for his hardwork and making it into the top of the rankings..but most of his wickets are batsmen playing rash shots
 
Hassan has no weaknesses and is the.bowler anyone with half an intelligence would go with who will win you the match. Bumrah is an ok bowler. That's where it ends..
Every bowler has their weaknesses. I do feel Hasan is prone to being hit, especially towards the latter end of the innings.
 
If I have 1 run to defend from 3 balls, I will give the ball to Hasan.

If I have 1 run to defend from 6 balls I will bowl it myself.
 
We've come to the stage where people are adding T20 bowling to the comparison?

Give it a rest.

Hasan Ali is the far superior ODI bowler, and his ranking attests to that.
 
Hasan by a good margin. With the passage of time, their numbers won't even remain comparable as they now are.
 
Hasan is better in ODIs but I think Bumrah is better in T20s, but the margin by which Hasan is better in ODIs is quite considerable. He is the best ODI bowler in the world at the moment.

Surely Starc is better than Hasan?
 
Surely Starc is better than Hasan?

That is why I said at the moment. Starc is undoubtedly the best ODI bowler of this era by some distance, but he hasn't done much/played much since the 2015 World Cup.
 
I still to this day have no idea where Pakistan produces so many good fast bowlers from. Maybe my astonishment is due to the fact that we have barely produced good fast bowlers.
 
I still to this day have no idea where Pakistan produces so many good fast bowlers from. Maybe my astonishment is due to the fact that we have barely produced good fast bowlers.

Also please show us how to produce good batsmen like you guys consistently do...it has been so long since Miandad retired not a single consistent batsman after him
 
I’d rather have a bowler like Hasan who sucks momentum early on by breaking partnerships in the middle overs than Bumrah who limits the damage caused by batsmen at the end.
 
I still to this day have no idea where Pakistan produces so many good fast bowlers from. Maybe my astonishment is due to the fact that we have barely produced good fast bowlers.
Same reason India will churn out at least one quality batsman each gen...Gavaskar, Sachin, Kohli, Rahul (will be) and in another 5 years another will pop up.
 
I just wonder what happened to that Bangladeshi bowler..... Forgot his name.... But he was regarded best odi bowler till last year I think...
 
Hasan is better in ODIs but I think Bumrah is better in T20s, but the margin by which Hasan is better in ODIs is quite considerable. He is the best ODI bowler in the world at the moment.

Very rare to see you praising a Pakistani player.


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With Hasan Ali the situation won't even arise to defend that low of a number in the final over. Teams are getting bowled out long before they even come close to the scores we are scoring.

Well the situation can come and Hassan Ali don't have the yorkers which Bumrah has
Bumrah has already done this couple of time
 
on topic : hassan ali is best.
off topic: bumrah going to have an injury very soon, due to his bowling action.
 
I will reserve my judgement till I have seen Hassan Ali bowling at the death a few more times.
 
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Hasan is better in ODIs but I think Bumrah is better in T20s, but the margin by which Hasan is better in ODIs is quite considerable. He is the best ODI bowler in the world at the moment.

How big a difference is there now?
 
Hassan won us the CT. What icc tournie has Bumrah won??

What poor logic!! Zaheer won a wc while Waqar did diddly squat, Zaheer must be the better bowler right? Hell even Munaf Patel and Venky Prasad has better record in WC than Waqar.
 
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Hassan Ali was better 2017- early 2018.
Since then Bumrah has been better by a mile.

I hope Hassan Ali regains his form and get to no. 1 spot in OD Ranking.
 
Has Zaheer Khan ever reached no.1 in the bowling rankings?

Amazing how stealthily you shift the goal post!! Kapil reached no 1 and won a WC, thus a better bowler than Waqar or Steyn right? Please don't debate for the heck of it, you are better than this.
 
Amazing how stealthily you shift the goal post!! Kapil reached no 1 and won a WC, thus a better bowler than Waqar or Steyn right? Please don't debate for the heck of it, you are better than this.

How are you comparing ATGs to someone who's barely played 80 ODIs? If you had compared Hassan Ali's stats to Bumrah's 5 months ago they would be near identical. Hassan Ali has gone downhill and bumrah can too. So before hyping him up so much take this into consideration.
 
How are you comparing ATGs to someone who's barely played 80 ODIs? If you had compared Hassan Ali's stats to Bumrah's 5 months ago they would be near identical. Hassan Ali has gone downhill and bumrah can too. So before hyping him up so much take this into consideration.

Currently, there’s no doubt that Bumrah is better. Since Asia Cup last year, Hassan has been worse than a sunday league bowler. Hassan Ali was better before the Asia Cup, that i can agree on.

Too bad Hassan Ali focused more on taking selfies rather than improving himself.
 
Bumrah is no doubt best all format fast bowlers now , in the same class as Wasim , Imran , Donald , marshal etc. Hassan , he is done and dusted.
 
Hasan Ali had a lot of talent but it seems like he lost steam too early. Jasprit Bumrah has built himself brick by brick. He’s sculpted himself to perfection.
 
If I have 1 run to defend from 3 balls, I will give the ball to Hasan.

If I have 1 run to defend from 6 balls I will bowl it myself.
If i have 1 run to defend in the last over against Pakistan then I'll Bowl myself 🤡

Pakistan fan's and Their delusion has no limit :kp
 
Hasan Ali without a doubt.

With Hasan Ali the situation won't even arise to defend that low of a number in the final over. Teams are getting bowled out long before they even come close to the scores we are scoring.

Hasan is better in ODIs but I think Bumrah is better in T20s, but the margin by which Hasan is better in ODIs is quite considerable. He is the best ODI bowler in the world at the moment.

I still to this day have no idea where Pakistan produces so many good fast bowlers from. Maybe my astonishment is due to the fact that we have barely produced good fast bowlers.

IN death bowling bumrah has an edge,hassan is better of the two.
well, well, well. some good old posters getting it wrong
 
He's said at the moment, same as Hitman..
Nha in general he is clueless as hell
He is always wrong

Shaheen better than Waqar and bumrah looooool

Just loooooool

Naseem better than shami loooooool
 
In 2017 Hasan Ali was superb, so much energy and even the pace was up.
There was every reason to think at least in ODI's he would dominate.
He was never superb, bowled well in a few matches, and Pakistani fans got overexcited as usual.
 
Pakistan's cricket system is flawed.

Hence the players have 1-2 good years before declining while Indian players keep evolving and only hit their ultimate form in early 30s before declining in mid-late 30s due to age.

Hence all these vs threads are always won by Indians.

Bumrah/Kuldeep/Pandya/Axar now in that range. See how much better they are compared to when they came to the scene (when they were still solid).

Gill/Jaiswal/Arshdeep/Pant/Tilak etc have not even hit their final forms.

Saim Ayub vs Jaiswal gonna go the same way.
 
It’s the same old story.

Pakistani Bowler X bursts onto the scene and does very well.

Pakistani Bowler X is hyped to the moon.

Pakistani Bowler X is over-bowled; am talking slavery level labour akin to that which inspired the civil rights movement.

Pakistani Bowler X gets injured and returns to cricket with no professional rehabilitation.

Pakistan Bowler X gets injured again.

Pakistan Bowler returns to cricket again after a half @ssed recovery, and stars to focus more on T20 leagues.

Pakistan Bowler X develops a huge ego during this period, and becomes very entitled, doesn’t put the work in based on past short lived glories.

Pakistan Bowler X is eventually dropped.

Pakistan Bowler X makes his debut for Hampshire CC 2nd XI
 
It’s the same old story.

Pakistani Bowler X bursts onto the scene and does very well.

Pakistani Bowler X is hyped to the moon.

Pakistani Bowler X is over-bowled; am talking slavery level labour akin to that which inspired the civil rights movement.

Pakistani Bowler X gets injured and returns to cricket with no professional rehabilitation.

Pakistan Bowler X gets injured again.

Pakistan Bowler returns to cricket again after a half @ssed recovery, and stars to focus more on T20 leagues.

Pakistan Bowler X develops a huge ego during this period, and becomes very entitled, doesn’t put the work in based on past short lived glories.

Pakistan Bowler X is eventually dropped.

Pakistan Bowler X makes his debut for Hampshire CC 2nd XI
Management along with players in question are responsible for this, local dedicated coach can do wonders in this regard..
 
It’s the same old story.

Pakistani Bowler X bursts onto the scene and does very well.

Pakistani Bowler X is hyped to the moon.

Pakistani Bowler X is over-bowled; am talking slavery level labour akin to that which inspired the civil rights movement.

Pakistani Bowler X gets injured and returns to cricket with no professional rehabilitation.

Pakistan Bowler X gets injured again.

Pakistan Bowler returns to cricket again after a half @ssed recovery, and stars to focus more on T20 leagues.

Pakistan Bowler X develops a huge ego during this period, and becomes very entitled, doesn’t put the work in based on past short lived glories.

Pakistan Bowler X is eventually dropped.

Pakistan Bowler X makes his debut for Hampshire CC 2nd XI

Pakistan bowler X was never that good to begin with

Pakistan bowler X gets overhyped by delusional Pakistani fans.

Pakistan bowler X gets his novelty factor wore off..

Pakistan bowler X gets smashed to all parts by batters who are now used to him

Pakistan bowler X gets dropped.

Pakistani fans blame workload , injuries, management etc..

Pakistan fans find another Pakistan bowler X to overhype..

Rinse and repeat..
 
Ah 2017. There were posters here who were confident that Aamir and Hasan would outperform Steyn and would be next only to Marshall.

And they were all rational , sane posters for the most part.

Just goes to show how wrong we all are in most of our predictions
 
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