Joe Root vs Sachin Tendulkar comparison

[Narayana59]

As i have already stated, except for Zimbabwe, Joe Root has faced way better all round attack as compared to Sachin Tendulkar all over the world.

While some individual bowlers were better in Sachin's era but the quality of 2nd and 3rd change bowlers in current era is vastly superior.

Additionally, the pitches in current era are more bowling friendly across the world except for some bazball pitches.

Take a look at these stats:

 

[mominsaigol]

As i have already stated,
Except for Zimbabwe Joe Root has faced way better all round attack than Sachin Tendulkar all over the world,

While some individual bowlers were better in sachin's era but the quality of 2nd and 3rd change bowlers in current era is vastly superior.
Additionally the pitches in current era are more bowling friendly all of the world except some bazball pitches.
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This thread will either be extremely inactive cause indian posters will want to avoid another smackdown or extremely active cause indian posters will want to be masochistic and receive another beatdown lol.

 

[mominsaigol]

As i have already stated,
Except for Zimbabwe Joe Root has faced way better all round attack than Sachin Tendulkar all over the world,

While some individual bowlers were better in sachin's era but the quality of 2nd and 3rd change bowlers in current era is vastly superior.
Additionally the pitches in current era are more bowling friendly all of the world except some bazball pitches.
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Sa is literally the only team that was better during sachin era and even then only marginally due to Dale Steyn.

The other numbers are off the charts though. Despite this root avg 50 vs sa while sachin does not.

 

[kron]

This thread will either be extremely inactive cause indian posters will want to avoid another smackdown or extremely active cause indian posters will want to be masochistic and receive another beatdown lol.

Will be cool if we can split the stats up based on pitches each player played on

Flat pitches
Seaming tracks
Turning tracks
Bouncy pitches


And then
1st innings performance
Second innings performances

Calibre of bowlers faced and what their average was in their home conditions as even players who were true ATg can become gods in their home conditions where at times they could even surpass legends.

Like for example on turning tracks of Asia, I put ashwin ahead of Warne etc.

No drs could have had a huge impact in the past though. Era comparison is a bit difficult but Sachin never stepped up and played a match winning knock when pressure was on vs Sena away from home to win a series etc. I can understand he dint have a great bowling attack but not even one series defining moment???

 

[mominsaigol]

I love how sachin excluding minnows avg 51 while root excluding minnows avg 53 .

And I love how indians are pretending as if Sachin is impressive as he had to deal with the mighty zimbo and Bangladesh.

 

[Narayana59]

Sa is literally the only team that was better during sachin era and even then only marginally due to Dale Steyn.

The other numbers are off the charts though. Despite this root avg 50 vs sa while sachin does not.

SA once prepared one of the wrost pitch for bowling vs eng where ben stokes scored 258 or something and rabada conceded 170-200+ runs in that match that match may have significant impact on these stats.

 

[Narayana59]

I love how sachin excluding minnows avg 51 while root excluding minnows avg 53 .

And I love how indians are pretending as if Sachin is impressive as he had to deal with the mighty zimbo and Bangladesh.

Yeah Sangakkara and miandad are the top Asian batters with highest AVG against top 8 teams

 

[kron]

Sa is literally the only team that was better during sachin era and even then only marginally due to Dale Steyn.

The other numbers are off the charts though. Despite this root avg 50 vs sa while sachin does not.

Bro
Rabada
Burger
Ngidi/nortje
Coetze
@Narayana59

In their conditions is as good as any bowling attack of SA

Infact I rate this pace attack their best ever on seaming tracks.

I said this in 2019 itself that both India and Aus had true atg pace attacks under kohli and then later under Cummins for Aus.

I called that aus and India team already has true great sides ages back. Amongst the top 5.
Second greatest ever Aussie side.

Their best ever overall bowling attack tbh. Granted McGrath was the greatest bowler ever but the sum of parts which include Cummins Hazlewood Starc and Lyon was overall better than Aus attack under Ponting. Hazlewood being better than Gillespie and Starc being superior to Lee. And these guys can bat slightly better too.

 

[kron]

Yeah Sangakkara and miandad are the top Asian batters with highest AVG against top 8 teams

Sanga is one I disagree with.
He always never ever performed. A top sides away. Like zero match winning innings. But hey same as tenda I guess

 

[mominsaigol]

SA once prepared one of the wrost pitch for bowling vs eng where ben stokes scored 258 or something and rabada conceded 170-200+ runs in that match that match may have significant impact on these stats.

Tbf Dale steyn should be appreciated. Rabada atm is a better bowler though, but longetivity counts. They are both extremely close in terms of stats, and country by country performances with rabada marginally edging out.

I don't think the SA bowling of the old is worse then the bowling of the new.

I think SA is the only team from both Era's that remained consistently =.

But in this era every other bowling team is better. Mcgrath was one guy, but his companions like Lee are not > Cummins, Starc, Hazlewood, Boland.

Same can be said for other teams SENA teams. Teams in this era seem to have bowling trios whereas in the old era most of the team had okayish bowlers with only one soearhead bowler which explains why the stats are better in this era.

 

[TheSultan]

No contest - Root is clearly superior. And he also has to play the pressure of regular Ashes.

Tendi didn’t play arch rivals Pakistan basically because India chickened out for most of the decade of the 90s. IiRC tendi himself said he agreed that India should not play against Pakistan.

 

[Narayana59]

Tbf Dale steyn should be appreciated. Rabada atm is a better bowler though, but longetivity counts. They are both extremely close in terms of stats, and country by country performances with rabada marginally edging out.

I don't think the SA bowling of the old is worse then the bowling of the new.

I think SA is the only team from both Era's that remained consistently =.

But in this era every other bowling team is better. Mcgrath was one guy, but his companions like Lee are not > Cummins, Starc, Hazlewood, Boland.

Same can be said for other teams SENA teams. Teams in this era seem to have bowling trios whereas in the old era most of the team had okayish bowlers with only one soearhead bowler which explains why the stats are better in this era.

No
rabada is not better than Dale steyn, two completely different era.

He can be considered as a better bowler than Donald if he can improve his Asian numbers in the upcoming tours.

 

[mominsaigol]

No contest - Root is clearly superior. And he also has to play the pressure of regular Ashes.

Tendi didn’t play arch rivals Pakistan basically because India chickened out for most of the decade of the 90s. IiRC tendi himself said he agreed that India should not play against Pakistan.

Root has crossed 500 runs per series dozens upon dozens of times.

I also love how people claim root isnt even anywhere close to the likes of dravid when he took less no of innings in a much harder bowler friendly era at an avg of 53 to surpass his run tally and his overseas country record blows dravid out of the water.

Root has been avg 58 since 2019 btw. His avg pre 2019 was 45+ which is ehy that avg is 51 atm. If he keeps going at a rate of 58 he will get his avg to 53

 

[mominsaigol]

No
rabada is not better than Dale steyn, two completely different era.

He can be considered as a better bowler than Donald if he can improve his Asian numbers in the upcoming tours.

Rabada has better stats then steyn though? Marginally better?

Also while this era is more bowler friendly, not all pitches are bowler friendly. The pitches in england are roads, similarly the pitch where Pakistan scored 400+ in the 3rd innings vs sa was also a road.

Steyn is better due to longetivity but if rabada keeps the same rate up, I dont see why he wouldnt be considered > Steyn? He is literally 20+ tests behind only atm?

 

[Narayana59]

Tbf Dale steyn should be appreciated. Rabada atm is a better bowler though, but longetivity counts. They are both extremely close in terms of stats, and country by country performances with rabada marginally edging out.

I don't think the SA bowling of the old is worse then the bowling of the new.

I think SA is the only team from both Era's that remained consistently =.

But in this era every other bowling team is better. Mcgrath was one guy, but his companions like Lee are not > Cummins, Starc, Hazlewood, Boland.

Same can be said for other teams SENA teams. Teams in this era seem to have bowling trios whereas in the old era most of the team had okayish bowlers with only one soearhead bowler which explains why the stats are better in this era.

I want to say that
In current era sa bowling attack
The current 2nd and 3rd change bowlers are better than previous era old ball Bowlers bowlers like Kallis, ntini ( although they haven't played much in away condition.)

 

[Narayana59]

Rabada has better stats then steyn though? Marginally better?

Also while this era is more bowler friendly, not all pitches are bowler friendly. The pitches in england are roads, similarly the pitch where Pakistan scored 400+ in the 3rd innings vs sa was also a road.

Steyn is better due to longetivity but if rabada keeps the same rate up, I dont see why he wouldnt be considered > Steyn? He is literally 20+ tests behind only atm?

Steyn played in an era where the pitches were highways all over the world,
Steyn averaged 28-30 in Eng on those pitches where Anderson, broad averaged 35+ ,
And almost all of the visiting bowlers performed way worser than steyn on aus 00 era highways.

I mean rabada is playing on much much bowling friendly pitches than steyn so it is very difficult to compare him with steyn.
Even Bumrah is also not better than steyn as of now

 

[mominsaigol]

Steyn played in an era where the pitches were highways all over the world,
Steyn averaged 28-30 in Eng on those pitches where Anderson, broad averaged 35+ ,
And almost all of the visiting bowlers performed way worser than steyn on aus 00 era highways.

I mean rabada is playing on much much bowling friendly pitches than steyn so it is very difficult to compare him with steyn.
Even Bumrah is also not better than steyn as of now

Fair enough

 

[kron]

Steyn played in an era where the pitches were highways all over the world,
Steyn averaged 28-30 in Eng on those pitches where Anderson, broad averaged 35+ ,
And almost all of the visiting bowlers performed way worser than steyn on aus 00 era highways.

I mean rabada is playing on much much bowling friendly pitches than steyn so it is very difficult to compare him with steyn.
Even Bumrah is also not better than steyn as of now

31.65 in England
28 in australia


Hence I rate bumrah above Steyn but bumrah needs more games under belt.

 

[kron]

I want to say that
In current era sa bowling attack
The current 2nd and 3rd change bowlers are better than previous era old ball Bowlers bowlers like Kallis, ntini ( although they haven't played much in away condition.)

10000%

But many will disagree because their sacchu bacchu will look bad then. Cause he faced inferior bowlers

 

[Narayana59]

31.65 in England
28 in australia


Hence I rate bumrah above Steyn but bumrah needs more games under belt.

It's not that simple BRO
Currently The pace bowlers averages 25 in aus in presence of bumrah.
While the pace bowlers averaged 35 in aus in steyn era
Although this doesn't change the fact that bumrah is among the top 3 visiting bowler in aus.

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[kron]

It's not that simple BRO
Currently The pace bowlers averages 25 in aus in presence of bumrah.
While the pace bowlers averaged 35 in aus in steyn era
Although this doesn't change the fact that bumrah is among the top 3 visiting bowler in aus.

Bowling records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com

stats.espncricinfo.com

Bowling records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com

stats.espncricinfo.com

But in that case bowling parters also make a difference. Bumrah no long has shami or ishant to support. It’s a new attack. Will be interesting. They are getting better though. Prasidh siraj harshit can be good in the future.

Steyn bumrah. Honestly I wouldn’t even care. Both are truly elite

But Steyn played on seaming tracks of SA so there is an advantage there. Bumrah is more or less being used as such but he does play at home too like he did Va England on flat pattas not too long ago and helped India win 4-1. Averaged an insane 16 17 in that series.

Injury is his only issue.

For bumrah to not be injury prone he should quit odi tbh. Focus just on tests and t20. Even Anderson broad did get injured when they played all formats.

Anyway I have no problem if people put Steyn higher than bumrah or vice versa. Both great bowlers.

I do have a problem with people putting Sachin above Steve smith however.

 

[Bhaijaan]

At his peak Tendulkar was the best batsman in the world across formats.

Something Root has not achieved.

 

[Technics 1210]

Tendulkar is a Temu batsman compared with the the Real McCoy Root!

 

[BouncerGuy]

NO PERSONAL REMARKS PLEASE

 

[sweep_shot]

Joe Root wins easily.

Tendulkar was the king of soft runs when it comes to Test format.

In ODI, Tendulkar is better, however.

 

[Varun]

Root can't score a run in Australia, keep in mind.

 

[Hitman]

Joe Root wins easily.

Tendulkar was the king of soft runs when it comes to Test format.

In ODI, Tendulkar is better, however.

Kindly substantiate your claim with facts.

 

[Hitman]

Joe Root wins easily.

Tendulkar was the king of soft runs when it comes to Test format.

In ODI, Tendulkar is better, however.

Sangakkara is a better Test batsman than Tendulkar because he averages more.

Akram is a better Test bowler than Donald because he has more wickets.

 

[Technics 1210]

Joe Root wins easily.

Tendulkar was the king of soft runs when it comes to Test format.

In ODI, Tendulkar is better, however.

Yeah, Temu Tendulkar was ahead in ODIs, but you would be when you're spanking Kenya and Namibia for fun.

ODis was Tendulkar's hunting ground for ultra soft stat padding runs.

 

[Mamoon]

Last 15 years have bee harder for batting than the 90s and 2000s, where the pitches were extremely flat. In addition to this, Root has played very, very few Tests vs teams like Ireland, Zimbabwe and Bangladesh.

What Root has done in this era is pretty incredible, and the Indian agenda and insecurity will not tarnish his greatness.

Very good thread.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Last 15 years have bee harder for batting than the 90s and 2000s, where the pitches were extremely flat. In addition to this, Root has played very, very few Tests vs teams like Ireland, Zimbabwe and Bangladesh.

What Root has done in this era is pretty incredible, and the Indian agenda and insecurity will not tarnish his greatness.

Very good thread.

Tendulkar has a “unique place in history” because he is the highest run scorer.
Root is not different from any other 50 averaging batsman.
Only when he scores one more run than Tendulkar he can replace him. So as of now he is just another good batsman, nothing special.

 

[mominsaigol]

Last 15 years have bee harder for batting than the 90s and 2000s, where the pitches were extremely flat. In addition to this, Root has played very, very few Tests vs teams like Ireland, Zimbabwe and Bangladesh.

What Root has done in this era is pretty incredible, and the Indian agenda and insecurity will not tarnish his greatness.

Very good thread.

This guy @Narayana59 is a ridiculously good poster.

He's basically the honest, better and more savage version of buffet

 

[Mamoon]

This guy @Narayana59 is a ridiculously good poster.

He's basically the honest, better and more savage version of buffet

Buffet is extremely selective and agenda-driven with his stats. His neutrality image got shattered long ago. However, he is not confrontational at all which is a great quality that very few here possess.

 

[Mamoon]

Tendulkar has a “unique place in history” because he is the highest run scorer.
Root is not different from any other 50 averaging batsman.
Only when he scores one more run than Tendulkar he can replace him. So as of now he is just another good batsman, nothing special.

Tendulkar is the batting version of Anderson. I have proved this many times.

 

[sweep_shot]

Last 15 years have bee harder for batting than the 90s and 2000s, where the pitches were extremely flat. In addition to this, Root has played very, very few Tests vs teams like Ireland, Zimbabwe and Bangladesh.

What Root has done in this era is pretty incredible, and the Indian agenda and insecurity will not tarnish his greatness.

Very good thread.

Yes.

Had Root played more against minnows, he could've surpassed Tendulkar by now.

 

[mominsaigol]

Buffet is extremely selective and agenda-driven with his stats. His neutrality image got shattered long ago. However, he is not confrontational at all which is a great quality that very few here possess.

Neither is @Narayana59

 

[Ball Blazer]

People from specific country are v insecure about Root

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Tendulkar is the batting version of Anderson. I have proved this many times.

And you were proven wrong every time.

 

[starpain]

Not surprised by these stats.

Having said that, it’s nice to see them.

Batting in recent times have been tougher than Sachin’s era, which further makes Root career average of 51.5 more impressive. He’s also so far ahead of the current English batsmen since 2015.

To me, only thing Root needs to do is to have an ATG series in Australia this year. Then he will be in same league as Tendulkar.

If he further surpass Tendulkar run’s tally, I will put him Above Tendulkar as Top 3 Greatest Test Batsmen of all time.

Indian fans don’t need to be bitter. As Great as Tendulkar was, he average 53.8 for a reason, which is lesser than the likes of Kallis and Sangakkara. I still put him above them but what his average shows is that he was not some sort of demi god of a batsmen which his peers cannot match. I already rate Root above Kallis and Sangakkara.

 

[Technics 1210]

Did someone promise Tendulkar he would be the best ever Test batsman, and highest Test run getter for life, 5000 years ago?

 

[AZulfi]

Root's career legacy hinges on the upcoming Ashes in Australia. He might not play another away Ashes (He will be 38 in 2029)

 

[Golu-momin]

Except these pakistani and bangladeshis no Australian or British would even in their imagination will compare Sachin the master blaster with root fruit. Almost every legend of the game in his dream 11 picked sachini want to see root can make even 20% of those teams But Pakistanis who haven’t produced even virat kohlis caliber test bastman is still whining.

 

[Golu-momin]

Not surprised by these stats.

Having said that, it’s nice to see them.

Batting in recent times have been tougher than Sachin’s era, which further makes Root career average of 51.5 more impressive. He’s also so far ahead of the current English batsmen since 2015.

To me, only thing Root needs to do is to have an ATG series in Australia this year. Then he will be in same league as Tendulkar.

If he further surpass Tendulkar run’s tally, I will put him Above Tendulkar as Top 3 Greatest Test Batsmen of all time.

Indian fans don’t need to be bitter. As Great as Tendulkar was, he average 53.8 for a reason, which is lesser than the likes of Kallis and Sangakkara. I still put him above them but what his average shows is that he was not some sort of demi god of a batsmen which his peers cannot match. I already rate Root above Kallis and Sangakkara.

you might be true in your opinion but where i get disagree when people talk about sangakkara ,He wasn’t even Younis khan’s caliber, Was a minnow basher. He never scored tough runs

 

[Golu-momin]

Tendulkar is the batting version of Anderson. I have proved this many times.

Prove it to your country people and in international media where game of greats rates him second best ever. If you can’t than your opinion is null and void only can give false satisfaction to a bunch of jokers on this forum

 

[Mesozoic]

Root will most probably play until 2027 home Ashes and call it quits.

So close to 30 more Tests until then..

If he breaks Sachin's record , it'll be a monumental feat considering he played only for 15 years while Sachin's Test career spanned for over 24.

 

[sweep_shot]

Root's career legacy hinges on the upcoming Ashes in Australia. He might not play another away Ashes (He will be 38 in 2029)

I think he is already a GOAT regardless of what he does in the upcoming Ashes.

He should surpass Tendulkar if he can play for 3-4 more years.

 

[mominsaigol]

I think he is already a GOAT regardless of what he does in the upcoming Ashes.

He should surpass Tendulkar if he can play for 3-4 more years.

I think root will get their. I think he is more concerned about Australia Ashes tbh.

He defo would want to up his avg to 40+ and score 500+ runs on this tour with 2-3 centuries.

He won't play in Australia ever again after this. The next Aus Ashes tour will be in 2029 and Root will be 38-39. I'd be surprised if he manages to extend his career to 40.

I like Australia but I desperately want root to succeed and shut Indians up.

Indians need to take responsibility. It is due to their incompetence that root is close to breaking Sachin's record

 

[Mamoon]

And you were proven wrong every time.

Source: Tendulkar’s 50+ average vs Pakistan in Test cricket.

 

[sweep_shot]

I think root will get their. I think he is more concerned about Australia Ashes tbh.

He defo would want to up his avg to 40+ and score 500+ runs on this tour with 2-3 centuries.

He won't play in Australia ever again after this. The next Aus Ashes tour will be in 2029 and Root will be 38-39. I'd be surprised if he manages to extend his career to 40.

I like Australia but I desperately want root to succeed and shut Indians up.

Indians need to take responsibility. It is due to their incompetence that root is close to breaking Sachin's record

Yes. I also want Root to succeed in the Ashes so that he can get closer to Tendulkar's milestone.

I just hope Root will not pull a Mulder and retire before breaking Tendulkar's record. LOL!

 

[mominsaigol]

Yes. I also want Root to succeed in the Ashes so that he can get closer to Tendulkar's milestone.

I just hope Root will not pull a Mulder and retire before breaking Tendulkar's record. LOL!

I rant root to score 517 runs in Ashes and 222 runs in the Bangladesh tour which should be possible considering Bangladesh have moved on from the doctoring nonsense.

Doing that will put a dent on sachin fans who cant use the 40 or above avg in every country excuse.

Not that it matters now. @Narayana59 exposed sachin so badly.

However sachin as a batsmen is still ahead of root.

I will put Root > Sachin if Root has a good Australia tour.

Steve Smith > Sachin > Root as of now

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Source: Tendulkar’s 50+ average vs Pakistan in Test cricket.

Sachin would be an ATG averaging 57 if he played half the matches he did, Anderson would be Ishant Sharma level if his career was cut by half. Anderson ATG status relies on longevity, its not the same for Sachin.

Your idiotic claim is thus defeated. No more discussion is needed here. Its a stupid conspiracy theory

 

[Golu-momin]

They wont tell you that steven smith is average is 56.02 after 119 test matches. While sachins test match average was 57.25 after 123so called Sachin haters thats why in real world every legend rates him second best.
I challenge everyone come on refute it.

Sachin is daddy of these roots, smithsopinion of these ppers are as significant as of Pakistan’s economy

 

[Mamoon]

Prove it to your country people and in international media where game of greats rates him second best ever. If you can’t than your opinion is null and void only can give false satisfaction to a bunch of jokers on this forum

Sachin was bang average vs Pakistan in Test cricket so Pakistani's don't have the need to overrate him. He was a Pujara/Azhar Ali level batsman vs Pakistan. We respect Sehwag and Dravid more considering the amount of damage they did to our bowling.

As far as Pakistani ex players rating him very high, it is normal to rate players from your generation high. It happens with other players too not just Sachin, and it happens in other sports as well.

 

[Mamoon]

Sachin would be an ATG averaging 57 if he played half the matches he did, Anderson would be Ishant Sharma level if his career was cut by half. Anderson ATG status relies on longevity, its not the same for Sachin.

Your idiotic claim is thus defeated. No more discussion is needed here. Its a stupid conspiracy theory

They wont tell you that steven smith is average is 56.02 after 119 test matches. While sachins test match average was 57.25 after 123so called Sachin haters thats why in real world every legend rates him second best.
I challenge everyone come on refute it.

Sachin is daddy of these roots, smiths and crybaby haters of himopinion of these ppers are as significant as of Pakistan’s economy

But why would I bother how much Sachin would have averaged after XYZ number of matches? How is that my problem that he hung around for 200 matches? Who asked him to play for that long?

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

But why would I bother how much Sachin would have averaged after XYZ number of matches? How is that my problem that he hung around for 200 matches? Who asked him to play for that long?

That wasn’t the point and you know it.

Anderson is a longevity merchant and would have an average career if he didn’t play for long, Sachin is quality plus longevity and would be a legend even without his longevity , there is no comparison. Your conspiracy theory has been uprooted and you have nowhere to hide.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

They wont tell you that steven smith is average is 56.02 after 119 test matches. While sachins test match average was 57.25 after 123so called Sachin haters thats why in real world every legend rates him second best.
I challenge everyone come on refute it.

Sachin is daddy of these roots, smiths and crybaby haters of himopinion of these ppers are as significant as of Pakistan’s economy

Thank you for sharing this record.
If you add test average of 57.25 after 125 matches plus, highest average of a batsman with tennis elbow and highest average of batsman with the expectations of so many people on him then it's clear why he is superior.

 

[Technics 1210]

Sachin is backed by Shiv Sena. Not now, but since Sachin was sponsored as a MRF - cough cough - genius batsman.

It was Shiv Sena that instructed Sachin not to play Pakistan during the 90s.

It was Shiv Sena that instructed Sachin not to play in the Anne Do series held post India WC 2011 win.

It was Shiv Sena, that instructed this so called Bhagwaan of batting to praise the Indian Hockey team, instead of giving credit where it was due, when Pakistan whooped India in the CT17 final.

Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar is a proven cult terrorist sympathiser

Prove me wrong Sachinistas. I dare you.

Joe Root - he's light years ahead of Teenda on sponsorship alone.

 

[Golu-momin]

But why would I bother how much Sachin would have averaged after XYZ number of matches? How is that my problem that he hung around for 200 matches? Who asked him to play for that long?

He wasn’t abysmal like ponting or kohli after falling from peak still maintaining avg of 50+ so what was the harm if he kept playing, if you are taking about performing against Pakistan how many games he played against Pakistan that’s limited. Virat kohli stats against pakistan is don bradman kind ofand we knows how much hates you have for him such a hypocrite.

 

[Mamoon]

That wasn’t the point and you know it.

Anderson is a longevity merchant and would have an average career if he didn’t play for long, Sachin is quality plus longevity and would be a legend even without his longevity , there is no comparison. Your conspiracy theory has been uprooted and you have nowhere to hide.

You don’t understand what “conspiracy” means. Conspiracies are not based on factual evidence.

Factual evidence suggests that Tendulkar holds no records that are not tied to longevity.

There have been around 31 instances of an Indian batsman scoring more than 500 runs in a Test series. Batsmen like Gavaskar, Dravid and Kohli managed this feat multiple times. However, interestingly enough, Tendulkar did it 0 times.

Tendulkar played Test cricket for 24 years. However, when you look at the list of most runs scores in a calendar year, you will find his name only twice out of the top 20 and not once in the top 5.

There are 0 instances of Tendulkar scoring 300 in an innings.

In spite of playing the most Test matches in history, 7 batsmen have scored more 200s than Tendulkar and 6 batsmen have scored the same number as he has.

This is why he is the batting version of Anderson. Just like Anderson is not distinguishable from other bowlers with 23-27 average, Tendulkar is not distinguishable from other 50+ averaging batsmen. The only thing that separates him is number of matches played.

If Tendulkar was as good as his fans think, he would hold other records too, not just records linked to longevity.

 

[Mamoon]

He wasn’t abysmal like ponting or kohli after falling from peak still maintaining avg of 50+ so what was the harm if he kept playing, if you are taking about performing against Pakistan how many games he played against Pakistan that’s limited. Virat kohli stats against pakistan is don bradman kind ofand we knows how much hates you have for him such a hypocrite.

As a cricketer, you will be judged by your entire career. Not a convenient cut-off point that makes you look better than your overall career. It doesn’t matter if Tendulkar averages XYZ after XYZ Tests.

As far as Pakistan is concerned, he played 18 Tests vs Pakistan and averaged only 42. 18 Tests is a very good sample. That is 30+ innings.

He was bang average vs Pakistan. Even his greatest Test innings vs Pakistan (Chennai 1999) ended in defeat, and funnily enough, it wasn’t even the best innings of that Test match.

Shahid Afridi’s counter-attacking 141 in the second innings turned the game on its head and proved to be match winning.

The fact that Tendulkar was handed a consolation Man of the Match out of pity because he choked was quite embarrassing. Everyone knows including Tendulkar himself that Afridi was the real Man of the Match of that Test.

 

[mominsaigol]

You don’t understand what “conspiracy” means. Conspiracies are not based on factual evidence.

Factual evidence suggests that Tendulkar holds no records that are not tied to longevity.

There have been around 31 instances of an Indian batsman scoring more than 500 runs in a Test series. Batsmen like Gavaskar, Dravid and Kohli managed this feat multiple times. However, interestingly enough, Tendulkar did it 0 times.

Tendulkar played Test cricket for 24 years. However, when you look at the list of most runs scores in a calendar year, you will find his name only twice out of the top 20 and not once in the top 5.

There are 0 instances of Tendulkar scoring 300 in an innings.

In spite of playing the most Test matches in history, 7 batsmen have scored more 200s than Tendulkar and 6 batsmen have scored the same number as he has.

This is why he is the batting version of Anderson. Just like Anderson is not distinguishable from other bowlers with 23-27 average, Tendulkar is not distinguishable from other 50+ averaging batsmen. The only thing that separates him is number of matches played.

If Tendulkar was as good as his fans think, he would hold other records too, not just records linked to longevity.

They will claim Tenda has a match winning innings against Bangladesh and Zimbabwe

 

[Varun]

Root can't finish the Ashes with a top-score of 83 and be called a great, Tendulkar or no Tendulkar.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Root will be rated high if he overcomes his score tally. End of debate

Root can't finish the Ashes with a top-score of 83 and be called a great, Tendulkar or no Tendulkar.

 

[mominsaigol]

Root will be rated high if he overcomes his score tally. End of debate

Root is already rated high. Steve Smith rates him despite indians claiming that Australia do not.

Ricky Ponting rates him and considers root juat as good as he is. Infact ponting verbatim stated that root and he are Realtive on the sky sports broadcast and why not? They have the exact same stats with ponting having a slightly worse record in india 26 as compared to root 35 and root having a slightly lower avg at 51.26 vs ponting 51.85.

On what basis are they not equal and indians claiming root is 3rd rate and 50 yards behind Ponting?

Every cricketer on the planet rates him and smith as the best of this generation and no less then the best of the past.

What indians state means jiggly jack.

 

[Varun]

Root will be rated high if he overcomes his score tally. End of debate

But that would be an Anderson > McGrath type result.

 

[JaDed]

But that would be an Anderson > McGrath type result.

Came to type that , lol at that great argument.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

But that would be an Anderson > McGrath type result.

Don't worry I feel India has given him a good training for upcoming Ashes, he looks confident now.

 

[JaDed]

Don't worry I feel India has given him a good training for upcoming Ashes, he looks confident now.

He was bang average at home against a transitioning Indian team.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

He was bang average at home against a transitioning Indian team.

Lol Bumrah, Siraj, Prasidh (IPL purple cap) are bang avg now.... He indeed has got the vital moment and has also scored two match winning fifties in the Hundred. Thanks to transitioning Indian team, root looks alive again for the record

 

[JaDed]

Lol Bumrah, Siraj, Prasidh (IPL purple cap) are bang avg now.... He indeed has got the vital moment and has also scored two match winning fifties in the Hundred. Thanks to transitioning Indian team, root looks alive again for the record

IPL purple cap for a test series, that must be really bad.

He was average because he was playing at home, Karun Nair has a triple ton against England at home.

Bumrah and Siraj aren’t average Root was average..

 

[AZulfi]

You don’t understand what “conspiracy” means. Conspiracies are not based on factual evidence.

Factual evidence suggests that Tendulkar holds no records that are not tied to longevity.

There have been around 31 instances of an Indian batsman scoring more than 500 runs in a Test series. Batsmen like Gavaskar, Dravid and Kohli managed this feat multiple times. However, interestingly enough, Tendulkar did it 0 times.

Tendulkar played Test cricket for 24 years. However, when you look at the list of most runs scores in a calendar year, you will find his name only twice out of the top 20 and not once in the top 5.

There are 0 instances of Tendulkar scoring 300 in an innings.

In spite of playing the most Test matches in history, 7 batsmen have scored more 200s than Tendulkar and 6 batsmen have scored the same number as he has.

This is why he is the batting version of Anderson. Just like Anderson is not distinguishable from other bowlers with 23-27 average, Tendulkar is not distinguishable from other 50+ averaging batsmen. The only thing that separates him is number of matches played.

If Tendulkar was as good as his fans think, he would hold other records too, not just records linked to longevity.

No triple century is a blemish on Sachin’s career despite often opening the innings or batting in the top 3-4

Also 4th innings hundreds:

Younis Khan holds the record for most 4th innings hundreds (5) jointly with Kane Williamson

Tendulkar has 3

 

[JaDed]

No triple century is a blemish on Sachin’s career despite often opening the innings or batting in the top 3-4

Also 4th innings hundreds:

Younis Khan holds the record for most 4th innings hundreds (5) jointly with Kane Williamson

Tendulkar has 3

Mcgrath has lesser first inning wickets than Kapil Dev and Richard Hadlee, Walsh ,Broad, Anderson
slightly better than Ambrose but with a lesser average

is that a blemish on him?

 

[mominsaigol]

IPL purple cap for a test series, that must be really bad.

He was average because he was playing at home, Karun Nair has a triple ton against England at home.

Bumrah and Siraj aren’t average Root was average..

Root scoring 500+ runs and being the 2nd highest scorer = avg .

The clown gang gets worse day by day

 

[mominsaigol]

Root scoring 500+ runs and being the 2nd highest scorer = avg .

The clown gang gets worse day by day

I think people have completely forgotten the meaning of team games. Even then

Root 1st test 50 not out chase completely england go 1-0

Root 3rd test 103 to equal lead and england win

Root 5th test 150. It isnt his fault the tail collapsed and 5 cricketers couldnt chase 35 runs when he did all the work, shpuld he have chased it down? Yes but literally no one should have lost from that position but england bottled it.

@JaDed going off the rails as usual.

 

[mominsaigol]

He was bang average at home against a transitioning Indian team.

Transitioning?. What did India change?

Ashwin is useless in overseas tours, his bowling record and batting record is a joke in england.

Kohli was avg 27 for 6 years and gill was 200x better then him at no 4. Rohit couldnt even buy a run and his record in 2024 and 2025 makes it seem like hes a tail ender?

They only missed shami. Bowlers same, openers same, middle order same, only no 3 and no 6 different . Sai and karun were no worse then Kohli and rohit lol.

These liars never stop lying

 

[JaDed]

Transitioning my foot. What did India change?

Ashwin is useless in overseas tours, his bowling record and batting record is a joke in england.

Kohli was avg 27 for 6 years and gill was 200x better then him at no 4. Rohit couldnt even buy a run and his record in 2024 and 2025 makes it seem like hes a tail ender?

They only missed shami. Bowlers same, openers same, middle order same, only no 3 and no 6 different . Sai and karun were no worse then Kohli and rohit lol.

These liars never stop lying

A New captain is a transition that too young one, when did Prasidh become a regular Indian bowler?
Jaiswal was new, Pant was injured in mid as well..

What’s with the name calling?

 

[JaDed]

I think people have completely forgotten the meaning of team games. Even then

Root 1st test 50 not out chase completely england go 1-0

Root 3rd test 103 to equal lead and england win

Root 5th test 150. It isnt his fault the tail collapsed and 5 cricketers couldnt chase 35 runs when he did all the work, shpuld he have chased it down? Yes but literally no one should have lost from that position but england bottled it.

@JaDed going off the rails as usual.

Jadeja has 516 runs in that series..Rahul was also above 500 that makes them awesome?

 

[Technics 1210]

Fun fact : Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar was the first ever batsmen to be adjudged out using the 3rd Umpire - he was run-out vs South Africa in 1992.

 

[AZulfi]

No triple century is a blemish on Sachin’s career despite often opening the innings or batting in the top 3-4

Also 4th innings hundreds:

Younis Khan holds the record for most 4th innings hundreds (5) jointly with Kane Williamson

Tendulkar has 3

When you have had such a long career, when you had so many opportunities and when lesser batsmen in your era scored triple hundreds, I think Tendulkar himself would be disappointed that he did not score one..

 

[mominsaigol]

A New captain is a transition that too young one, when did Prasidh become a regular Indian bowler?
Jaiswal was new, Pant was injured in mid as well..

What’s with the name calling?

Jadeja has 516 runs in that series..Rahul was also above 500 that makes them awesome?

Use your stupid buffoonery responses else where

How is jaiswal new? He's been an opener for a while now

Jaiswal, Pant, Gill, Siraj, Bumrah, Jadeja is a transitioning team hahahahaha.

India makes 2 changes and some incompetent selections via pradish and kamboj and suddenly its transitioning .

I dont give a cahoots, how was root medicore?

His 50 won the 1st game, his 103 caused the lead to be nullified and his 22 runs made a huge difference considering the margin india lost in the 3rd game.

How is he at fault for england losing after he scored 150 and secured a record run chase before an epic botch?

You're the one not making sense. I am not name calling anyone. When someone acts stupid, I call them out.

That is not name calling but me speaking the truth.

I always speak the truth and never lie and newsflash the truth hurts.