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Jos Buttler and Phil Salt: The next brothers of destruction pair in T20?

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England are getting two big guns ready for the 2024 World Cup! They are coming hard with two brutal players in Butler and Salt. A powerful opening pair in world cricket!

Phil Salt is an extremely underrated player who’s not had enough chances, but is as capable of tearing apart bowling attacks like Butler is. He pulverising Pakistan in the 7 match T20 series in 2022.

Frightening pair!
 
This is the most destructive opening pair but I don't know why Salt doesn't get consistent chances from England.
 
Catching up as one of the great opening pair swiftly.

Do you guys think they can break Babar and Rizwan's record?


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Lol as if that’s a record they are chasing or care about. They are here to end bowling careers….not chase stats
When you achieve any record for yourself doesn't it belong to your country and make them proud?

well another debate!

Hopefully u got my point.
 
Phil and jos can be the most destructive pair no doubt about it but will they be consistent as well?
Babar-rizwan duo has been consistent but yes Phil salt and jos will have more impact than the other openers because of their fearless approach, they might fail to do so but in the t20s that is the way to go.
 
Phil Salt has been in smashing form recently and we all know what Jos Buttler can do so yes, we are going to see them as a destruction pair in T20 cricket.
 
England opener Phil Salt's incredible form and fantastic tour of West Indies has propelled the opener to second on the ICC Men's T20I batting rankings, and a career high rating of 802.
 
Butler and Salt.

Let’s break bowling careers…not records!
 
Buttler looks uncomfortable, perhaps because he's still thinking about the ouster of Rajasthan Royals from the IPL. and Salt looks calm as he doesn't care about final of IPL for KKR
 
Butler is such a good player when onsong.

As a batter, he never slogs. None of his strokes are ever ugly. Their pure classy cover drives or straight drives against pace, and just proper orthodox pull strokes etc etc.

Not to say he doesn't play unorthodox, he's probs the 2nd best unorthodox player I've seen after de villers.

Even against spin, playing cut shots, using the feet, solid head movements etc.

It's just timing, class And power with this guy. With Phil Salt, Phil and jacks look like power hitter who sometimes slog and rely on lofted strokes but you can tell Butler is truly world class and just a class apart from everyone.

An atg wk bat for England and a class captain who leads from the front. He's also the most improved captain, you can tell he's a different beast from 2023 wc
 
England should get in Ben Duckett too. Bairstow and Brook are not T20 material.
They need to kick out Chris Jordan too. He is worse than Vijay Shankar.
 
Butler and Salt followed by explosive middle order having Will Jacks, Brook, Livingstone, Bairstow, Moeen and Curran.. Even their tail enders can bat, Jordan, Archer, Rashid, Wood, Woakes and Hartley 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ No way to escape
 
Definitely, they are one of the most aggressive batters atm in T20s. Both of them like to go all guns blazing from ball number 1. No escape from these 2 if they are in form.
 
50 up for the brothers of destruction in just 4.3 overs against Pakistan in the 4th T20I
 
Carnage today from them

Butler 83 (30) and Salt so far 57* (20)

modern day cricket at its best
 
Salt 100* (39). Fastest century for an England batter
 
Butler is close to retirement.

I think they are very good for flat pitches.

Would be interesting to see how they do in next year's World Cup. SL have some sluggish pitches.
 
But but sarr this is Tullah batting sarr!!!

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Oh bhai, get a life.

Always rona dhona, always bringing Riz-bar in every discussion.

Your favourite tullahs Farhan and Haris are extremely limited batsmen with little to no footwork. They are not the answer either.

They will be found out against quality bowling attacks of India and Australia.
 
Oh bhai, get a life.

Always rona dhona, always bringing Riz-bar in every discussion.

Your favourite tullahs Farhan and Haris are extremely limited batsmen with little to no footwork. They are not the answer either.

They will be found out against quality bowling attacks of India and Australia.
you are on my hit list as well now!
 
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This is proper aggressive batting. Tullah batting is what your backed failures like Farhan and Haris do, who have no talent and skill.

Even Buttler averaged 21 in his first 15 ODIs and Salt was under 23 in his first 10, with plenty of low T20 scores. Salt was all over the place till 2023 — now he’s a match-winner because England backed him. Haris and Farhan deserve the same — aggressive batting isn’t instant noodles.

You seem smart enough to know this… feels like dragging your feet now. Whether Haris, Saim, Hassan Nawaz, Fakhar, or Farhan make it big remains to be seen. No one has a crystal ball. But saying “don’t even try, they’ll never make it” while clinging to what lost us games for two years straight? I mean what can one say. Let’s bury our head in the sand folks.
 
Even Buttler averaged 21 in his first 15 ODIs and Salt was under 23 in his first 10, with plenty of low T20 scores. Salt was all over the place till 2023 — now he’s a match-winner because England backed him. Haris and Farhan deserve the same — aggressive batting isn’t instant noodles.

You seem smart enough to know this… feels like dragging your feet now. Whether Haris, Saim, Hassan Nawaz, Fakhar, or Farhan make it big remains to be seen. No one has a crystal ball. But saying “don’t even try, they’ll never make it” while clinging to what lost us games for two years straight? I mean what can one say. Let’s bury our head in the sand folks.
Yes, these guys will be as good as Buttler in a few years. We just need to persist with them. OK.
 
Yes, these guys will be as good as Buttler in a few years. We just need to persist with them. OK.
Rizwan and Babar should have been able to bat like Butler with the amount of time and persistence they got…

But but sarr??!
 
Rizwan and Babar should have been able to bat like Butler with the amount of time and persistence they got…

But but sarr??!
They would be proud of themselves of scoring 304 runs in an ODI.
 
Yes, these guys will be as good as Buttler in a few years. We just need to persist with them. OK.
You have to fully back whatever talent exists to let it reach its potential—it doesn’t happen in just 10 games. No one expects Haris or Farhan to match Buttler, and that’s not the point.

The mindset we need is this: as a team, if this batting unit can consistently add at least 20 more runs per game than before, that’s a net win.

Pakistan can’t be the only major team still playing like it’s 2010 while the rest of the world has moved on. Ignoring the evolution of cricket won’t make it go away.

We need to be willing to fail while doing the right things, rather than give up without even trying because “we don’t have talent” Thinking small is a self-fulling prophecy.
 
England players are miles ahead of Pakistan players in terms of mentality, maturity and skill level... They are always looking to do something different and they did that... JOS and Salt are definitely one hell of a pair in t20..
 
You have to fully back whatever talent exists to let it reach its potential—it doesn’t happen in just 10 games. No one expects Haris or Farhan to match Buttler, and that’s not the point.

The mindset we need is this: as a team, if this batting unit can consistently add at least 20 more runs per game than before, that’s a net win.

Pakistan can’t be the only major team still playing like it’s 2010 while the rest of the world has moved on. Ignoring the evolution of cricket won’t make it go away.

We need to be willing to fail while doing the right things, rather than give up without even trying because “we don’t have talent” Thinking small is a self-fulling prophecy.
You are backing the wrong guys. You are living in cloud cuckoo land if you think someone like Sahibzada has the potential and the ability to reach the level that you aspire.

The same people who are quiet over him would be foaming in their mouths if Babar or Rizwan had scored 29 in 29 vs Oman. The hypocrisy is laughable.
 
You are backing the wrong guys
It’s funny how you wrote off Babar and Rizwan in 2022 (as we have highlighted many times here), but now in 2025 you are backing them as if they will become Butler and Salt in T20….


And you think others who back Sahibzada and Harris in 2025 are backing the wrong guys? 🤡
 
It’s funny how you wrote off Babar and Rizwan in 2022 (as we have highlighted many times here), but now in 2025 you are backing them as if they will become Butler and Salt in T20….


And you think others who back Sahibzada and Harris in 2025 are backing the wrong guys? 🤡
I have no personal issue with anyone unlike you. I am not enslaved by my likes and dislikes.

My position is simple - Sahibzada is not better than Babar and Haris is not better than Rizwan. Therefore, they should not be in the team ahead of them.

There is no world in which Babar and Rizwan don’t walk into the Pakistan team across formats today.

I will have no problem with them not playing when the day comes where they are not good enough compared to their competitors. However, that day has not come yet.

The Pakistan team that is playing in this Asia Cup is not a merit-based team. It is an agenda-driven team, and it is hilarious too see that their batting methodology and output is still crap even though they painted the narrative that Babar and Rizwan were holding this team back and now we have adopted a new template.

Imagine scoring 160 vs Oman after implementing a so-called aggressive batting strategy. 🤣
 
I have no personal issue with anyone unlike you

We have screenshots of you wanting Harris to bang himself.

I’m pretty sure you have also stated you hate the guts of Shadab and Naseem.
 
We have screenshots of you wanting Harris to bang himself.

I’m pretty sure you have also stated you hate the guts of Shadab and Naseem.
That is not a personal issue, that is for the collective betterment of Pakistan cricket.
 
My position is simple - Sahibzada is not better than Babar and Haris is not better than Rizwan. Therefore, they should not be in the team ahead of them.

Babar has been awfully out of Form. He was nt dropped right away after T20 Wc embarrassment Neither Rizwan

out of form players are not automatic choice. Whether Replacement is better or not should nt stop our Board to try out new blood. We will only know who is better after we have tried to replace them and given proper run at it
 
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