"Just because Hassan Ali dropped a catch shouldn't mean you get hit for 3 sixes" : Shahid Afridi

[MenInG]

"Just because Hassan Ali dropped a catch shouldn't mean you get hit for 3 sixes" : Shahid Afridi

Shahid Afridi speaking on TV:

"I am not happy with Shaheen Shah Afridf as just because Hassan Ali dropped a catch does not mean that in the next over you get hit for 3 sixes; You have so much pace and you should have had enough sense to bowl outside the off-stump, a yorker - as he bowled into Wades preferred area; I will say that Shaheen Shah Afridi bowled badly; Yes, the catch was spilled but it doesn't mean that you will give up as you can make a comeback also"


"First of all, I would like to congratulate both New Zealand and Australia for reaching the Final of the ICC T20 World Cup. I have always said that fielding has a 70-75% contribution in any win. Even Australia shelled two catches during Pakistan's innings so there was an issue with fielding there too. And it happened to Pakistan also when in such a tight situation, the catch was dropped and then those 3 sixes were hit as well - the scenario of the game changed completely due to that"

"I always say that when Pakistan will strengthen their fielding, that is the day Pakistan will win the match"

"I believe we missed a huge opportunity and such chances of success come rarely in our lives - we had 9/10 players who had not played in an ICC T20 World Cup before and in a sense this was the Final for us as I always believed that we would have won against New Zealand"

"I feel that this image of Hassan Ali dropping the catch will be replayed forever"

"Australian batters have been brought up on pace and they come ready to face fast-bowling; If you see the game, Australian batters struggled against slower deliveries but not against pace - they themselves wanted pace on the ball and it didn't matter if it was the first or last ball of the over; They showed us that we as Australian players are mentally strong - they bided their time to the end even when it looked like the target was a tough one but there was no sign of panic on their faces; Both the not out batters knew had belief in their own strengths and were waiting for the right opportunity"

"Fakhar Zaman was positive from the first ball of his innings, he didn't decide to take a few singles to get himself in, he went on to play his natural game the moment he came in; You could tell from his face that he had come with he intention of not fearing anyone and he will go for his shots if the ball is in the right area for him; This is the sort of approach which was needed, this is his talent and the reason why he in the Pakistan side and this is what will benefit Pakistan"

"Apart from 2-3 balls, wherever Shadab Khan bowled was excellent. He had a good plan which was a simple wicket to wicket bowling which is what I had always advised him to do on good pitches, whether in the sub-continent or elsewhere"

"In terms of Hassan Ali's body language, I would say that yes you maybe struggling with your bowling but you cannot stand in the ground with a sad face and wait for a miracle; If you drop your shoulders like this then at crucial moments your performance will be effected; If Hassan had taken that catch, people would have forgotten about the fact that he didn't bowl well in the previous over and this is why you, as a player, have to avail of such opportunities and lift yourself up. This is a big lesson to be learnt, and we have a good Team Management who need to tackle this problem before the next T20 World Cup which will be upon us very soon"


"The message that our cricket stars have now sent to the world with their recent performances must clear now; They refused to tour Pakistan based upon a fake email and they must have realized now where that fake email came from and hopefully their mind would have changed"

"A few players should be rested for the series versus Bangladesh - we have Iftikhar Ahmed, Usman Qadir and Haider Ali - lets give them a chance by benching a few senior player and don't worry about what will happen if we lose to Bangladesh - just think about our own benefit in the long term; Even Dahani needs a chance"

"Overall, the whole of Pakistan is happy and satisfied with the performance of our team. The team performed well and the fans are particularly happy because we defeated India and broke the losing streak to India in ICC World Cups"

 

[UzmanBeast]

Shahid Afridi speaking on TV:

"I am not happy with Shaheen Shah Afridf as just because Hassan Ali dropped a catch does not mean that in the next over you get hit for 3 sixes; You have so much pace and you should have had enough sense to bowl outside the off-stump, a yorker - as he bowled into Wades preferred area; I will say that Shaheen Shah Afridi bowled badly; Yes, the catch was spilled but it doesn't mean that you will give up as you can make a comeback also"


"First of all, I would like to congratulate both New Zealand and Australia for reaching the Final of the ICC T20 World Cup. I have always said that fielding has a 70-75% contribution in any win. Even Australia shelled two catches during Pakistan's innings so there was an issue with fielding there too. And it happened to Pakistan also when in such a tight situation, the catch was dropped and then those 3 sixes were hit as well - the scenario of the game changed completely due to that"

"I always say that when Pakistan will strengthen their fielding, that is the day Pakistan will win the match"

"I believe we missed a huge opportunity and such chances of success come rarely in our lives - we had 9/10 players who had not played in an ICC T20 World Cup before and in a sense this was the Final for us as I always believed that we would have won against New Zealand"

"I feel that this image of Hassan Ali dropping the catch will be replayed forever"

You cannot expect Shaheen Afridi to keep creating chances. What a delusional statement.

You get one chance in a high-pressure situation. I don't know what cricket Shahid Afridi is watching, but when a batsman gets dropped, he always looks to capitalize on that and up the ante.

Shaheen's deliveries were not poor by any means, the field placements were not right.

Blaming Shaheen, who in fact made the game with his first over, is stupid.

Catches win matches, and though Hasan Ali is one of the best players on our team, a missed opportunity goes down as a missed opportunity.

 

[sweep_shot]

I think Shaheen is not very effective when it comes to left-handed batters. Even Warner was playing him quite comfortably.

He is brilliant against right-handed batters though.

Regarding Afridi's statement, he has a point but Shaheen did his job. It was Hasan Ali who cost the game.

 

[badsha001]

did you guys see Cummins 1st ball to Asif? Slow cutter well outside off. our captain and the bowlers are dumb. When the batsmen want to hit you for 6s...your goal should be to get hit for 4s because those are the type of balls that will get you wickets. Bowling into the arc will get you hit out of the park.

 

[Savak]

Afridi should be the last one to talk. He conceeded plenty against Hussey in the 2010 T20 WC Semi Final along with Amir and Ajmal.

 

[Savak]

I think Shaheen is not very effective when it comes to left-handed batters. Even Warner was playing him quite comfortably.

He is brilliant against right-handed batters though.

Regarding Afridi's statement, he has a point but Shaheen did his job. It was Hasan Ali who cost the game.

Shaheen is pretty good. He was up against the Big boys yesterday. His usual yorkers and slower deliveries were ineffective against the IPL and Big Bash Veterans in Wade and Stoinas.

 

[Omer2002]

How can u blame shaheen there who plays two ramp shots for 6 ..it was great batting end off. You could say why have the fine and third man up when wade was on strike but then again hindsight is a wonderfull thing

 

[transparent opacity]

Absolutely spot on. even with that dropped catch, the required rate was still 12. We have seen many funny things happen during pressure situations.

10 or 12 in the last over anything could have happened.

 

[Saj]

I think Lala is being a bit harsh on his future son-in-law.

That was some ridiculously good batting by Wade.

 

[Sirris]

The small battles at the end of the game do matter.

The batter got a second life, became fearless, while the bowler has to calm down his nerves and the frustration

 

[srh]

I think Shaheen is not very effective when it comes to left-handed batters. Even Warner was playing him quite comfortably.

He is brilliant against right-handed batters though.

Regarding Afridi's statement, he has a point but Shaheen did his job. It was Hasan Ali who cost the game.

No Pakistani bowler cost the match. Pakistani batting cost the match as they post a below par score. And among Pakistani batting the main culprit were the 2 slow openers. Check this thread so you can see the facts:

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-be-blamed-the-most-for-the-loss-to-Australia

 

[Cricketrenew]

Unfair criticism for both Hasan Ali drop and three sixes. These things happen. Saying that Ali was poor should be dropped going forward.
Afridi should have mixed it after the scoop shot... he carried on tried to bowl yorkers.
Fakher in his batting should have done the same to Starc but I guess he was scared of getting out?

 

[Snatch]

How can u blame shaheen there who plays two ramp shots for 6 ..it was great batting end off. You could say why have the fine and third man up when wade was on strike but then again hindsight is a wonderfull thing

It was great batting yes, but you still blame the bowler for being so predictable. Certainly Wade was reading him like a Dr Seuss book. If Afridi had more variety such as a good slower ball bouncer, ability to bowl wide outside off etc, I doubt Wade would have been so confident to shape for the scoop shot.

Personally I think conceding 3 sixes in a row when ur defending 18 off 9 and ur team still had an even chance, was worse than the dropped catch in this context

 

[Saj]

It was interesting what Wade had to say after the match.

He and Stoinis had planned who would face which bowler, based on the shorter on-side boundary.

These guys are smart cricketers, streetwise, they knew what they were doing.

 

[Ilan Bluestone]

As deflated as we all are I think we are being too harsh on our players.

Yes - Hasan Ali to me was the key reason we lost but we can have a weak link and still be proud of everyone’s performance.

Were we short a few runs? Sure. Babar + Rizwan needed 10-15 more, but at the same time our middle order is so brittle that if they lose their wicket we are out for 130. It’s a hard balance between going for it and understanding the state of the team.

175+ was defended 9/10 times on said pitch so I think overall it was a good total. There can always be improvements but it wasn’t some terrible total.

Furthermore batting first and losing the toss already put us at a huge disadvantage.

Given the amalgamation of all these factors we did very well and we had a great tournament. Nothing to be disappointed in.

Australia played very well. We played very well. They had dropped chances too, some poor bowling, and they were just a bit better overall. Hats off to them on a great performance and the lads will learn and build on this.

The same players being chastised have done great and won matches for Pakistan. Though I don’t believe Ali should play in the shorter format moving forward, he’s still a very good player.

Bravo boys. Tough loss. Winners and losers happen. There is always criticisms to be made but we saw two very good teams have a thrilling match and give it their all.

We have nothing to be ashamed of.

 

[TAK]

Shaheen did his job.

He got tonked for 3 sixes on the spin...in what universe is that him doing his job?

 

[sweep_shot]

He got tonked for 3 sixes on the spin...in what universe is that him doing his job?

Shaheen gave Pakistan a great start with the ball. He was spitting fire.

Other bowlers failed. Other bowlers (spinners particularly) should've choked the Aussies out. That didn't happen.

When Hasan Ali dropped that catch, Aussies were needing 20 runs from 10 balls. They were already a few blows away from winning it. So, Shaheen was not the main culprit.

After Hassan dropped the catch: 18 runs were needed from 9 balls.
After first six: 12 runs were needed from 8 balls.
After second six: 6 runs were needed from 7 balls.

As you can see, that dropped catch was the decisive moment.

 

[sweep_shot]

I think Shaheen is not a good death bowler. He also leaked runs during the death overs against India.

He should finish his overs within 15th over.

 

[Snatch]

It's weird people are giving Shaheen a free pass here. Aust still needed 18 off 9 following that dropped catch, and had Afridi managed to only concede 4-5 off those last 3 balls, Aust would have still needed 13 or 14 from the last, which IMO would have seen Pakistan having their noses in front.

I don't place the blame on 1 single player, but if I was to forced to pick one player to blame, there's as good an argument for Shaheen as anyone.

Any reason he seems immune from criticism from many, yet they're happy to pile on Ali?

 

[Snatch]

After Hassan dropped the catch: 18 runs were needed from 9 balls.
After first six: 12 runs were needed from 8 balls.
After second six: 6 runs were needed from 7 balls.

As you can see, that dropped catch was the decisive moment.

No clearly the 3 sixes were the defining moment. Had he bowled well the last 3 balls of that over, Pakistan would have been favs going into the last

 

[Kianig89]

Shahid Afridi The Analyst

Like many ex players, Shahid Afridi was also on TV for SAMAA NEWS as an expert for T20 WC analysis. Unlike his flamboyant approach in batting he was mature and balanced in views.

Many other former player like Mohammad Yousuf, Shoaib Akhtar & Younis Khan were irrational during their analysis. But Afridi is an intelligent critique. Waqar and Wasim on one channel said that Hassan Ali dropped catch not the end of world whereas Afridi is of the view catches win matches

 

[Savak]

I blame the captain and the senior players as well. In this situation, they should have slowed the game down, have a huddle and decide as a group what to do. Maybe someone with a cooler head might have suggested bowl a wife off stump yorker to get a dot ball

There are times when you have to slow the game down and allow the bowler to calm down

 

[Romali_rotti]

Baba Boom boom out with another useless verbal output....

Was there even a time when Shahid Afridi won Pakistan any major tournaments ? I cant even remember... Its t20, getting hit for 6s is part of the game under pressure, no need to blame the bowler here...

 

[Giannis]

Baba Boom boom out with another useless verbal output....

Was there even a time when Shahid Afridi won Pakistan any major tournaments ? I cant even remember... Its t20, getting hit for 6s is part of the game under pressure, no need to blame the bowler here...

He won Pakistan the 2009 T20 world cup, maybe you're the "Baba" with the memory issues.

 

[Giannis]

No, that's not what the 2 Ws said. They said that catches do win matches but you can't just lay on the crticism and entire blame on Hassan, that wasn't a straight forward catch he had to make ground and was the one drop catch of the night for an otherwise good day in the field. Australia had dropped even more catches and important ones such as Rizwan and Fakhar, had they been out Pak would've been out for 150 or less.

 

[Romali_rotti]

He won Pakistan the 2009 T20 world cup, maybe you're the "Baba" with the memory issues.

Ok fair enough, he played a crucial role being Pakistan's second leading run scorer in 2009, now that I ploughed through the records... Still Baba Boom Boom OUT shouldn't place the blame to Afridi, T20 is a hit or miss any bowler could get taken to the cleaners anytime.... Afridi did his bit with the new ball, rest of the team shouldve played better.

 

[Salma_T]

Like many ex players, Shahid Afridi was also on TV for SAMAA NEWS as an expert for T20 WC analysis. Unlike his flamboyant approach in batting he was mature and balanced in views.

Many other former player like Mohammad Yousuf, Shoaib Akhtar & Younis Khan were irrational during their analysis. But Afridi is an intelligent critique. Waqar and Wasim on one channel said that Hassan Ali dropped catch not the end of world whereas Afridi is of the view catches win matches

I think the 2 Ws needed to acknowledge that catches win matches as the host said, rather putting it on bad day. I feel the match was lost by not having enough runs, wickets were in hand and they should have started attacking the Australian bowling by over 12/13.

 

[MenInG]

Virender Sehwag on on his FB:

"Anyone who loses usually reacts in such a manner. So entire Pakistan would be blaming Hasan Ali for their loss. After he dropped the catch, Wade hit three sixes in three balls and finished the match. I think their anger is justified but it's the same Pakistan team they supported and so when they lose they should still be supported"

 

[Usman Chadda]

No clearly the 3 sixes were the defining moment. Had he bowled well the last 3 balls of that over, Pakistan would have been favs going into the last

People at the ground have communicated quite clearly how Pakistan team was mentally shot once Hasan dropped that catch. Ofcourse none of us here have played cricket at the highest level or even close to it, but anyone who has played even a little bit of cricket knows that a dropped catch of a set batter at such an important stage just tears you apart as a TEAM.

Players are not machines, you can hypothetically say Shaheen should have definitely not bowled into Wade’s arc after getting scooped for that first six but you can clearly see he had buckled under pressure.

You can also see how much that dropped catch destroyed the team when there were no mini conferences between Shaheen, Babar, Malik etc after each six

 

[Xoib]

It was hafeez and malik responsibility to take hold of things once the catch dropped babar and shaheen are still early in their career this was there first icc tournament semi final as captain and player if malik and Hafeez are not contributing in this regard then what is the use of their experience

 

[Varun]

It's not that much of a surprise, the dropped catch. No Pakistan tournament goes without a crucial one or two.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

People at the ground have communicated quite clearly how Pakistan team was mentally shot once Hasan dropped that catch. Ofcourse none of us here have played cricket at the highest level or even close to it, but anyone who has played even a little bit of cricket knows that a dropped catch of a set batter at such an important stage just tears you apart as a TEAM.

Players are not machines, you can hypothetically say Shaheen should have definitely not bowled into Wade’s arc after getting scooped for that first six but you can clearly see he had buckled under pressure.

You can also see how much that dropped catch destroyed the team when there were no mini conferences between Shaheen, Babar, Malik etc after each six

If one dropped catch destroyed the team, i highly doubt we would have won anyways.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Yorkers outside offstump would have been a logical choice once he was hit for a first six but that's what happens in the heat of the game. Shaheen would get better. Not sure about Hasan. It's the second world cup where he's lost his form all of a sudden and looked like a blind hen.

Hasan needs to improve his attitude and maybe needs psychotherapy when it comes to going into big games/tournaments. He bowled such crass in the PSL semi final earlier this year as well. He was poor in 2019 wc too. His success in 2017 ct can be down to him being a novice and not being expected to do much.

 

[DHONI183]

"Just because Hassan Ali dropped a catch shouldn't mean you get hit for 3 sixes" : Shahid Afridi

There was one incredibly romantic moment in the game, right after the dropped catch, where Malik walked up to Hasan Ali to pat him on the back, to kind of offer him support and encouragement. However, someone should´ve actually gone to Shaheen as well. He was the bowler, it was him, and not Hasan, who was going to play the most important part in the remainder of the over. Things should´ve been halted for a brief while to regather the focus of the team, just to slow down the momentum of the Australian batsmen. These little things, these little tricks go a long way in terms of mind games. On the contrary, I´ve seen pictures of Shadab being down on the ground right after the dropped catch, as if the team had accepted that the match had just been gifted away. Now, if true and if those pictures haven´t been edited or anything, or are indeed from the moment referred to, then that wouldn´t have helped, obviously. Not the right way to go about things, honestly.

Having said that, Pakistan should maybe explore the option of giving Shaheen four straight overs in T20I matches. Maybe..... ?

 

[reversehook]

It was interesting what Wade had to say after the match.

He and Stoinis had planned who would face which bowler, based on the shorter on-side boundary.

These guys are smart cricketers, streetwise, they knew what they were doing.

i think a lil bit of stick is good for afridi from afridi, it will let him know that you still had a job to do, keep trying rather than fold.

 

[Thephenom]

One of the experienced players should of gone to Shaheen and told him to calm down, Aussie Hayden was our batting consultant, surely he would of known what sort of bowling they needed to bowl against his countrymen?

 

[MenInG]

More quotes added to Post #1

 

[PakLFC]

Three things cost us the match. Babar's slow batting, Hassan's drop catch and Shaheen giving three sixers away in the 19th over. Had we won it would equally have been unfair on the Aussies who lost Warner they way they did.

 

[Usergame]

Shahid Afridi speaking on TV:

"I am not happy with Shaheen Shah Afridf as just because Hassan Ali dropped a catch does not mean that in the next over you get hit for 3 sixes; You have so much pace and you should have had enough sense to bowl outside the off-stump, a yorker - as he bowled into Wades preferred area; I will say that Shaheen Shah Afridi bowled badly; Yes, the catch was spilled but it doesn't mean that you will give up as you can make a comeback also"


"First of all, I would like to congratulate both New Zealand and Australia for reaching the Final of the ICC T20 World Cup. I have always said that fielding has a 70-75% contribution in any win. Even Australia shelled two catches during Pakistan's innings so there was an issue with fielding there too. And it happened to Pakistan also when in such a tight situation, the catch was dropped and then those 3 sixes were hit as well - the scenario of the game changed completely due to that"

"I always say that when Pakistan will strengthen their fielding, that is the day Pakistan will win the match"

"I believe we missed a huge opportunity and such chances of success come rarely in our lives - we had 9/10 players who had not played in an ICC T20 World Cup before and in a sense this was the Final for us as I always believed that we would have won against New Zealand"

"I feel that this image of Hassan Ali dropping the catch will be replayed forever"

"Australian batters have been brought up on pace and they come ready to face fast-bowling; If you see the game, Australian batters struggled against slower deliveries but not against pace - they themselves wanted pace on the ball and it didn't matter if it was the first or last ball of the over; They showed us that we as Australian players are mentally strong - they bided their time to the end even when it looked like the target was a tough one but there was no sign of panic on their faces; Both the not out batters knew had belief in their own strengths and were waiting for the right opportunity"

"Fakhar Zaman was positive from the first ball of his innings, he didn't decide to take a few singles to get himself in, he went on to play his natural game the moment he came in; You could tell from his face that he had come with he intention of not fearing anyone and he will go for his shots if the ball is in the right area for him; This is the sort of approach which was needed, this is his talent and the reason why he in the Pakistan side and this is what will benefit Pakistan"

"Apart from 2-3 balls, wherever Shadab Khan bowled was excellent. He had a good plan which was a simple wicket to wicket bowling which is what I had always advised him to do on good pitches, whether in the sub-continent or elsewhere"

"In terms of Hassan Ali's body language, I would say that yes you maybe struggling with your bowling but you cannot stand in the ground with a sad face and wait for a miracle; If you drop your shoulders like this then at crucial moments your performance will be effected; If Hassan had taken that catch, people would have forgotten about the fact that he didn't bowl well in the previous over and this is why you, as a player, have to avail of such opportunities and lift yourself up. This is a big lesson to be learnt, and we have a good Team Management who need to tackle this problem before the next T20 World Cup which will be upon us very soon"


"The message that our cricket stars have now sent to the world with their recent performances must clear now; They refused to tour Pakistan based upon a fake email and they must have realized now where that fake email came from and hopefully their mind would have changed"

"A few players should be rested for the series versus Bangladesh - we have Iftikhar Ahmed, Usman Qadir and Haider Ali - lets give them a chance by benching a few senior player and don't worry about what will happen if we lose to Bangladesh - just think about our own benefit in the long term; Even Dahani needs a chance"

"Overall, the whole of Pakistan is happy and satisfied with the performance of our team. The team performed well and the fans are particularly happy because we defeated India and broke the losing streak to India in ICC World Cups"

Such arrogance from Afridi " as I always believed we would have beaten NZ".
Sorry but pakistan barely got over the line chasing 130 vs a NZ team which was a bowler short. With the extra bowler they have now- and Pakistan's frailty under pressure-I feel they would have lost the final regardless.

 

[Giannis]

Such arrogance from Afridi " as I always believed we would have beaten NZ".
Sorry but pakistan barely got over the line chasing 130 vs a NZ team which was a bowler short. With the extra bowler they have now- and Pakistan's frailty under pressure-I feel they would have lost the final regardless.

It's not arrogance, it's because of Pakistan's excellent record against the Kiwis. We've dominated them in every world cup so it's safe to assume that we have the mental edge in another knockout match with them.

 

[dravidthewall]

9 balls 18 runs still can be dependable. But Shaheen afridi was in hurry.

 

[globalcitizen]

People at the ground have communicated quite clearly how Pakistan team was mentally shot once Hasan dropped that catch. Ofcourse none of us here have played cricket at the highest level or even close to it, but anyone who has played even a little bit of cricket knows that a dropped catch of a set batter at such an important stage just tears you apart as a TEAM.

Players are not machines, you can hypothetically say Shaheen should have definitely not bowled into Wade’s arc after getting scooped for that first six but you can clearly see he had buckled under pressure.

You can also see how much that dropped catch destroyed the team when there were no mini conferences between Shaheen, Babar, Malik etc after each six

That says about lacking mental aspect of team then. First instance of pressure in competition and they got exposed. Australian teams are masters at creating this pressure for opposition.
I think Australia and NZ have been brilliant under pressure through out competition and they are deservingly in finals

 

[globalcitizen]

Such arrogance from Afridi " as I always believed we would have beaten NZ".
Sorry but pakistan barely got over the line chasing 130 vs a NZ team which was a bowler short. With the extra bowler they have now- and Pakistan's frailty under pressure-I feel they would have lost the final regardless.

Ok but your record against Australia has been horrendous from 2 decades now so this was hurdle to pass first before thinking about next match
Having said that NZ have their own shoddy record against Australia stretching back 3 decades !!

 

[ask_analyse_act]

I think Lala is being a bit harsh on his future son-in-law.

That was some ridiculously good batting by Wade.

Afridi being Afridi lol, nothing new..

Credit should go Wade for such ramp shots to play when he bowls at 90 mph

 

[Usman Chadda]

That says about lacking mental aspect of team then. First instance of pressure in competition and they got exposed. Australian teams are masters at creating this pressure for opposition.
I think Australia and NZ have been brilliant under pressure through out competition and they are deservingly in finals

You seem to be an Indian fan who just started to watch Pakistan cricket after our team beat you. This team has had worse meltdowns in the recent past, this one isn’t as bad as they played pretty well for 80% of the game. They crumble under pressure.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Three things cost us the match. Babar's slow batting, Hassan's drop catch and Shaheen giving three sixers away in the 19th over. Had we won it would equally have been unfair on the Aussies who lost Warner they way they did.

I dont see anything wrong with the batting, to be honest.. It was difficult pitch to bat on especially in the first inns, so matches have been played here in dubai and what Pakistan made that day was the highest first inns total..

It badly needed the top 3 to see through those tough phases initially otherwise Aus would have bowled them out for 140 or even less..

Hasan Ali was persisted right from the beginning of this tournament , and he hasnt come good even against Namibia and Scotland..

I wanted to write this after the match was over , was little busy with my work..

When hasan ali is so short of confidence and when Aus is using his overs to score runs, he shouldn't have bowled all his 4 overs, he should have been stopped after 2 overs or atleast after the 3rd over..

Imad came back and bowled a very tight over giving away only 3 runs in his 3rd over , and forced maxi to take shadab on in the next over , Shadab took maxi out.. Also Stoinis was trying to take on Shadab as well and did hit a six,, perfect situation there to bowl Imad and Hafeez 1 over each.. Imad should have completed his 4th with Stoinis and Wade just arrived in the crease.. With Wade in Hafeez should have also come in to bowl and try to knock the left hander out.. There was 90 percent chance for pakistan to get Stoinis and Wade out cheaply there if Imad and Hafeez bowled or atleast would have increased the RR even further with both of them trying to not lose a wicket..

It was during the 13th or 14th over Pak miss the trick by not bowling Imad and Hafeez ... In addition to that they bowled Shaheen in the 14th over which was so needless there... Stoinis and Wade who like to face pace bowling was given a platter ever since the 13th over and they finished the match in 6 overs..

At the end of Shadab's 4 overs and the total was 103/5 in 13 overs , with 7 overs to go with 74 runs to get and the last pair in the crease, surely pakistan should have won the game with the bowling they had,,

When Babar says learn from mistakes , i hope he identified this and it is something he should really learn on understanding the situation with batters being less skilled to play spin and learns how to kill the game when offered..

That was the moment , Pakistan let Australia off the hook..

 

[Shafi]

Afridi is a good bowler but no where near Starc, Hazzlewood, Cummins or Boult. These bowlers will never let a batman to hit 3 6s in 3 balls. Afridi is right in this case.

 

[Shafi]

I think Lala is being a bit harsh on his future son-in-law.

That was some ridiculously good batting by Wade.

Wade cannot hit 3 sixes in 3 balls against Boult, Starc, Hazzle, Cummins, Bumra, Amir.... And the list goes on.

 

[PakLFC]

I dont see anything wrong with the batting, to be honest.. It was difficult pitch to bat on especially in the first inns, so matches have been played here in dubai and what Pakistan made that day was the highest first inns total..

It badly needed the top 3 to see through those tough phases initially otherwise Aus would have bowled them out for 140 or even less..

Hasan Ali was persisted right from the beginning of this tournament , and he hasnt come good even against Namibia and Scotland..

I wanted to write this after the match was over , was little busy with my work..

When hasan ali is so short of confidence and when Aus is using his overs to score runs, he shouldn't have bowled all his 4 overs, he should have been stopped after 2 overs or atleast after the 3rd over..

Imad came back and bowled a very tight over giving away only 3 runs in his 3rd over , and forced maxi to take shadab on in the next over , Shadab took maxi out.. Also Stoinis was trying to take on Shadab as well and did hit a six,, perfect situation there to bowl Imad and Hafeez 1 over each.. Imad should have completed his 4th with Stoinis and Wade just arrived in the crease.. With Wade in Hafeez should have also come in to bowl and try to knock the left hander out.. There was 90 percent chance for pakistan to get Stoinis and Wade out cheaply there if Imad and Hafeez bowled or atleast would have increased the RR even further with both of them trying to not lose a wicket..

It was during the 13th or 14th over Pak miss the trick by not bowling Imad and Hafeez ... In addition to that they bowled Shaheen in the 14th over which was so needless there... Stoinis and Wade who like to face pace bowling was given a platter ever since the 13th over and they finished the match in 6 overs..

At the end of Shadab's 4 overs and the total was 103/5 in 13 overs , with 7 overs to go with 74 runs to get and the last pair in the crease, surely pakistan should have won the game with the bowling they had,,

When Babar says learn from mistakes , i hope he identified this and it is something he should really learn on understanding the situation with batters being less skilled to play spin and learns how to kill the game when offered..

That was the moment , Pakistan let Australia off the hook..

This is about the tenth time we have llost from a winning position. The batting up front is too slow, the fielding is average and the catching is even worse. I have heard this "learning from our mistakes" since the IK days! If's and but's are not good enough....going by that Warner was not even out yet he walked. Aussies would have won the match much before they did had he remained at the crease.

Let alone what happened it is only the result that matters. Thing is we are mentally a very weak side who always looses the plot when the pressure is on. We don't hear the Aussies ever make these excuses of being in process of improving then constantly apologising for their mistakes. They never let go when they sniff victory where as we are saying what a great tournament we had after defeating Namibia, Scotland and Afghanistan. We only had two decent victories then why get all carried away?.

In conclusion we are no where near good enough. After Warner's dismissal it was poetic justice that the Aussies won the match.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Starc went through the exact same thing. This is worse. Williamson never stopped attacking Starc. He murdered him.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Wade cannot hit 3 sixes in 3 balls against Boult, Starc, Hazzle, Cummins, Bumra, Amir.... And the list goes on.

In T20Is everyone gets hit.

It is very hard to not get hit when you have a combination of heavy bats, shorter boundaries, slog overs, wet ball and dropped catches...

In the Semifinal Hazelwood went for 0/49 and in the final Starc went for 0/60

Shaheen Shah Afridi was the best pacer in the whole tournament.

 

[Saj]

Learning experience for Shaheen.

The angle was all wrong and exactly what Wade wanted. Shaheen might have been better served to bowl round the wicket and angle the ball away from Wade.

His composure went after the dropped catch, but he's a young man and he will learn from those 3 deliveries.

 

[Savak]

Learning experience for Shaheen.

The angle was all wrong and exactly what Wade wanted. Shaheen might have been better served to bowl round the wicket and angle the ball away from Wade.

His composure went after the dropped catch, but he's a young man and he will learn from those 3 deliveries.

My biggest frustration is that the captain, vice captain, senior players just went missing. They should have all gone up to the bowler, slowed the game down, calmed him down and should have advised him on where to bowl.

Sometimes in T20 cricket when the batsman is on a roll, where the match situation is very tense, the bowlers brain might stop working and therefore the senior think tank needs to get together to take stock of things. Someone in the huddle might have advised Shaheen to focus on bowling 2-3 fast wide outside offstump yorkers to either get dot balls in or to restrict Wade to one and to forget targeting the stumps and trying to get Wade out. These fine things make a huge difference. I have seen Dhoni as captain to this many times

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Waqar made a similar point to you Savak and I think its an important one. This was a massive moment for leadership to stand up. Right in the heat of the moment is where real leaders are made, not for PR stunt videos in dressing rooms.

Some posters claim that the dropped catch rocked the team so much that they lost morale completely.

If that's the case then the captain and senior leadership group should be held responsible. Malik, Hafeez, Babar should have done exactly what Waqar said and tried to slow down the situation, take some of the momentum out of the game, manuevered the field a bit just to put some doubt into the batsman mind.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

This is about the tenth time we have llost from a winning position. The batting up front is too slow, the fielding is average and the catching is even worse. I have heard this "learning from our mistakes" since the IK days! If's and but's are not good enough....going by that Warner was not even out yet he walked. Aussies would have won the match much before they did had he remained at the crease.

Let alone what happened it is only the result that matters. Thing is we are mentally a very weak side who always looses the plot when the pressure is on. We don't hear the Aussies ever make these excuses of being in process of improving then constantly apologising for their mistakes. They never let go when they sniff victory where as we are saying what a great tournament we had after defeating Namibia, Scotland and Afghanistan. We only had two decent victories then why get all carried away?.

In conclusion we are no where near good enough. After Warner's dismissal it was poetic justice that the Aussies won the match.

If you bring Warner didn’t nick it, I saw a similar one in yesterday final where the ball was nowhere near the bat and there was a spike in the sniko lol. Also Marsh lbw review going against Pakistan in the same 1st over , I have no idea how the ball can swing few metres away from the stumps when it has to travel less than 1m distance. That was clearly hitting full on leg stump even if there was swing. That would have made 2 wickets upfront chasing 176 in the semi.

This is the first major tournament for Babar as captain and to me he has done exceptionally well on and off the field. Pakistan are not used to play under such high pressure situations unlike the Aussies who have played that in IPL and BBL in such situations quite a number of times.

Beating two decent teams really , what if they lose in the final against NZL , would you say three decent victories ,and nothing special.

Yes in the past when they say learn from our mistakes , especially when it comes from Misbah mouth after displaying poor cricket and defensive captaincy, not beating any good teams and losing without a fight then it sucks , but this time around they played like champions and got the name of the best team in the tournament with many predicting that Pakistan will win this cup.

 

[Devadwal]

It's not arrogance, it's because of Pakistan's excellent record against the Kiwis. We've dominated them in every world cup so it's safe to assume that we have the mental edge in another knockout match with them.

Ok fine then tell me why Pakistan ex cricketer's and fans were criticized harbhajan statement and calling him arrogant knowing Pakistan never beaten india before this match .

 

[PakLFC]

If you bring Warner didn’t nick it, I saw a similar one in yesterday final where the ball was nowhere near the bat and there was a spike in the sniko lol. Also Marsh lbw review going against Pakistan in the same 1st over , I have no idea how the ball can swing few metres away from the stumps when it has to travel less than 1m distance. That was clearly hitting full on leg stump even if there was swing. That would have made 2 wickets upfront chasing 176 in the semi.

This is the first major tournament for Babar as captain and to me he has done exceptionally well on and off the field. Pakistan are not used to play under such high pressure situations unlike the Aussies who have played that in IPL and BBL in such situations quite a number of times.

Beating two decent teams really , what if they lose in the final against NZL , would you say three decent victories ,and nothing special.

Yes in the past when they say learn from our mistakes , especially when it comes from Misbah mouth after displaying poor cricket and defensive captaincy, not beating any good teams and losing without a fight then it sucks , but this time around they played like champions and got the name of the best team in the tournament with many predicting that Pakistan will win this cup.

Not sure what you are saying about Warner nicking it? LBW's can always be questioned but Warner clearly did not hit it against Pak yet walked. Had he stayed at the crease the decision would for sure been in his favour. We are talking about the Pak-Aus match here.

For how long are we gonna keep making excuses that this is his or his first or last match? There is always some excuse we make to justify our inability, poor fielding or catching. So now it's the IPL and BBL's fault that in every close match we mostly lose. Is the PSL not enough for our overrated Cricketers to learn from. Funny thing is the Pak media is so happy insisting we did so wonderfully well in the tournament by defeating three cheap sides. Not sure what you mean by "Beating two decent teams really , what if they lose in the final against NZL , would you say three decent victories ,and nothing special."??

Played like Champs by defeating two good teams only?? We did not even play RSA and England who would have both probably thrashed us too. Babar as I said should not open the innings in T20's, he is just too slow and cautious.

 

[Pakpak]

Afridi is a good bowler but no where near Starc, Hazzlewood, Cummins or Boult. These bowlers will never let a batman to hit 3 6s in 3 balls. Afridi is right in this case.

What are you on about?

Fakhar slapped Starc for consecutive sixes at the end of the innings and Hazelwood was smoked for 48 runs in 4 overs earlier than that

Its T20, a mickey mouse contest where everyone will go for runs at some point.