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Kane Williamson has secured his position as an ATG

Bahnz said:
He averages 51 at home v AIES. Nearly 70 v SA and 50 v England, and has only played 2 home tests v Australia (having to bat on day 1 green tops in both of them).
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In recent times, he has improved it although a match winning knock vs a good SA side at home would have helped more. Nevertheless, that 176 at home was a top knock vs a good SA side. NZ should have won that series because SA were weak by then as the main players were past their prime.

The away performance is still a chink in the armor.
 
After a fantastic hundred in the 1st inning, Kane is back in the 2nd inning to score a 50 now, this is the 34th Test fifty for KW. Looking pretty solid out there to score a century in this inning as well if only if NZ chooses not to declare as the lead is already 427.
 
BouncerGuy said:
After a fantastic hundred in the 1st inning, Kane is back in the 2nd inning to score a 50 now, this is the 34th Test fifty for KW. Looking pretty solid out there to score a century in this inning as well if only if NZ chooses not to declare as the lead is already 427.
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NZ have more than 2 days left. I don't think they will declare today.

They will probably declare tomorrow before lunch (to give bowlers rest).

Williamson seems to be in great form.
 
Century number 31 for Williamson. What a fantastic player he has been in recent times. Back to back hundred for him. These SA bowlers are worse than a minnow team bowling line up. Kane will feast on these kind of bowlers everyday.
 
What a player! I remember a while ago Smith was faster than Kane to reach 20 hundys, 25, 28 hundys an now Kane has caught up and got his 31st ton in his 170th innings matching Smith....
Its a shame he doesnt play for england or Aussie, because you'd think he would get 45+ 100s with his technique.
I'm not sure how long Smith can keep Scoring big with his technique.

Technique wise, I can imagine Williamson playing till early 40s, especially with NZ's schedule, but cant imagine Smith playing anywhere close to that age, Smith might have a Ponting type of decline cos of their style being mainly hand eye co-ordination.
 
Reaching new heights since giving up captaincy. His away record in SA, England, SL and India remains a blot on his record.
 
Given NZ only play 5-8 test a year, i wonder how many hundreds he will end up with?? I'd have to say over 40.

Also unrelated, i'd like to drop him own to number 4, to protect him against the new ball like Root and Kholi .

ps after he got his second hundred he could of just gone for safe shots to get a nice not out for the average, but he is a team man and tried to up the scoring rate, show his character.
 

6 Hundreds In 6 Tests, Kane Williamson Sets Cricket World On Fire With Stunning Consistency​

Williamson has now converted 10 out of his last 11 fifty plus scores in Tests into centuries.

Source: NDTV
 
Root, Smith and Kohli have to face the best attacks all the time. And not much feasting against minnows at home. Well done to Kane but you can't get gentler opponents than this. His real test will be against the top teams, especially away from home.
 
In the Fab 4 I always rate Williamson so high because I hardly have seen any bad patch in his career... he always stood up like a champion whenever his team needed him.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
In the Fab 4 I always rate Williamson so high because I hardly have seen any bad patch in his career... he always stood up like a champion whenever his team needed him.
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So his team didn't need him in SA, England, SL and India?
 
Kane is a proven guy in Tests. Much better in recent times than Kohli and SMith. Consistant as well.
 
BouncerGuy said:
Kane is a proven guy in Tests. Much better in recent times than Kohli and SMith. Consistant as well.
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He delivered in the world test championship final head to head, one of the top scorers of the match if I recall correctly. Gutsy cricketer.
 
When it comes to performing weak attacks, I would rank Kane among the top 5 in history. He almost never misses out on piling up the runs against minnows and underpowered attacks like the one he is currently playing.

However, against the frontline attacks, his record is quite ordinary and this is why on a level-playing field, he is by far the least accomplished batsman among the Fab Four.

Nonetheless, he is a New Zealand legend. Arguably their best ever batsman, although Rachin Ravindra could overtake him in the next decade. He has exceptional potential and I believe he has a higher ceiling than Kane when it comes to performing against the best bowlers.
 
Why in the world runs against this joke of SA side in home conditions is being discussed for Kane. These runs are irrelevant when it comes to defining his legacy.
 
Overall test average is 55.92

In his first 3 years he was a youngster in a dysfunctional team that was WI and Bangladesh level. Since Nov 10 2013 his average is 65.10

In 2020s his average is 73.77
 
In the last two years, Kane Williamson has played some real clutch knocks vs England and South Africa inspite of injuries happening every now and then.

Definitely credit where due, it was a top class run chase. Others just held one end, it was Kane who scored 50% of the runs.
 
Yeah, regardless of the quality of the opposition, scoring 7 hundreds in 7 games is impressive all by itself. Great player, but the real challenge awaits in a couple weeks time. This NZ batting lineup is looking a little shaky, Conway out of knick, Latham with no pedigree v quality attacks, Rachin inexperienced and Mitchell coming back from an injury. NZ will need KW at his best to compete.
 
Well, this is some stat for the modern-day great, Kane Williamson. You cannot convert 8 consecutive 50s into a hundred every day. Brilliant.

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Kane Williamson equaled the legendary Pakistani batter Younis Khan’s record of scoring five centuries in the fourth innings. However, he did it in 14 fewer innings than Khan and remained unbeaten in all five tons. Apart from these two, not a single player even has four. Ricky Ponting and Graeme Smith have three each.
 
He is an incredible accumulator, but I’m afraid I can’t highly rate runs at home against Sri Lanka and South Africa’s D team. In the former case it is straightforward minnow bashing, and in the latter case Williamson has been batting against what is effectively a provincial side, and so these are Test centuries in name only. If however he picks up a ton against Australia in March, particularly if New Zealand go on to win that match or even the series, then fair enough that is ATG level.
 
This kind of tons against SA Z side shouldn't be used to judge any batsman. Especially when playing at home grounds.
 
Kane is a NZ great and that’s where it ends at this time. When he scores well against the top dogs in their conditions, that’s when an ATG discussion can begin. Frankly, the top tier batsmen when they feel like they need rest, choose series against less fancied opponents to skip and recuperate physically and mentally while Kane and some others use those to stat-pad to glory.
 
Great percentage cricketer. He also gets out to good balls. But he very rarely gifts his wickets. He is closer to Steve smith in that regard than Root and Kohli.
 
Kane has been phenomenal in red ball format. I will create him even higher that the likes of Virat, smith, etc. He is too consistent and has been scoring runs heavily. Definatley an ATG in Red ball.
 
Playing his 100th Test game of his career, Kane was not able to make it memorable in the 1st inning. Scored just 17 runs. Can he play another gem of a knock in the 2nd inning to save the game for his team?
 
remarkably consistent in being mediocre vs the top attacks.

He is nothing more than a Mahela or Inzy level Test batsman but keeps getting compared to Test cricket titans like Kohli, Smith and Root.
 
@Bahnz

What do you make of Williamson going missing against a quality attack yet again?

I don’t think any of the excuse apply this time around considering his brilliant form leading into the series.

His failure rate against quality attacks is nearly twice as high as that of the other members of the Fab Four.
 
Kane Williamson has poor record in SEIA.

Smith - 54
Kohli - 43
Root - 44
Williamson - 33

Sri Lanka is not counted here but he has poor record there as well.

Additionally, his overall average is under 40 vs each of the "Big Three" but averages 60+ vs every other opposition.
 
I think he is a NZ ATG but its becoming more and more obvious over time that he is not in the league of FAB 4.
 
Certainly not the Fab four because i do not rate him that high in the white ball so for me he is not the all-format player. Had a good record in test so will keep him among top4-5 batters. NZ great for sure.
 
This guy has just scored his 34th 50 of his Test career. Another 100 loading ?
 
Ends the series with an average of 19 after averaging 134 only weeks ago in the same conditions against a C class South African attack.

Kane Williamson never fails to disappoint his critics when it comes to getting exposed vs the best attacks.
 
Martin Crowe is still the greatest NZ batsman for me. Rachin may challenge that in a few years time.
 
NZ tours India for 3 tests in September, another chance at redemption.
 
Mamoon said:
Ends the series with an average of 19 after averaging 134 only weeks ago in the same conditions against a C class South African attack.

Kane Williamson never fails to disappoint his critics when it comes to getting exposed vs the best attacks.
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He is inferior to Kohli in Tests. Kohli has more runs vs stronger attacks away from home and that too on treacherous pitches like in South Africa.
 
Why are so many posters having a go at Kane?. On a tough pitch and against a top bowling attack, this knock of 50 is worth gold. NZ should win from here. Kane was also unlucky as he got run out once. (Not saying that he was going to win it for NZ in 1st test) but his Avg of 19 in this 2 test series is misleading. He is a much better batsman than this.
 
Sehwag was made fun of for being HTB, despite doing just as well as Kane overseas statistically. Sehwag also scored some dominant 100s in Australia, SA, Eng. Many Asian greats are quickly labelled as HTBs but different standards for SENA players.

Popular perception will be that KW is better than Sehwag, Dravid, Laxman, Younis, Inzi but I am not sure he is even better than Mahela, Yousuf etc.
 
Even his record against SA only improved rapidly after 2015 when Saffers started decline and Steyn stopping being a regular in their side.
 
I would say Kane Williamson is this generations Mohd Yousuf.

Atg averages, great against average and minnow attacks, also mediocre record against the best attacks of their time.

Kane Williamson is more clutch than Yousuf but Yousuf had more range as a batsman.

On batsmanship alone, I would take Yousuf ahead of Williamson.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
I would say Kane Williamson is this generations Mohd Yousuf.

Atg averages, great against average and minnow attacks, also mediocre record against the best attacks of their time.

Kane Williamson is more clutch than Yousuf but Yousuf had more range as a batsman.

On batsmanship alone, I would take Yousuf ahead of Williamson.
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Atleast yousuf had a great record in eng, nz and scored a ton in aus against Mcwarne, kane is poor against the best teams even at home
 
Not at his best in the T20 World Cup as he himself admitted:

[Reporter:]

Being one of the eldest men in the team, how do you assess your performance in this World Cup?

[Kane Williamson:]

Yeah, I mean, look, I think no matter what happens, you're always wanting to do more. The reality that on these wickets 90, maybe 100 can be winning totals, and so T20 batting needs to look a certain way and then if you get a match up then you can get an above par total perhaps. But it's been really unique, a unique experience for all the guys. We always love coming to the Caribbean, it's a fantastic place to be. The conditions have been challenging I think for batters all around, but it's just about trying to find a way. For us, it's been a short tournament, it would have been nice to have spent a bit more time here and after perhaps gaining a little bit of knowledge about how these wickets play, but not to be so. Yeah, it's moving on and trying to be better for the experience.

[Reporter:]

Are we going to see you in 2026?

[Kane Williamson:]

Oh, I don't know. There's a bit of time between now and then, so it's regrouping as a side. And yeah, we've sort of got Red Ball cricket over the next year basically. So yeah, it's back into some international other formats and yeah, see where things land.
 
Williamson declines national contract | remains committed to BLACKCAPS

Kane Williamson has re-emphasised his long-term commitment to the BLACKCAPS in all three formats - despite declining a central contract for the 2024-25 year.

The veteran of over 350 internationals will forgo a central contract and the captaincy of the BLACKCAPS white ball teams in a move he hopes will extend his international career.

The 33-year-old has opted to take advantage of a particular set of circumstances this summer in which very little international cricket is being played in New Zealand during the January window.

Outside that month, he remains available for the BLACKCAPS, who will play eight World Test Championship matches before Christmas and attend the ICC Champions Trophy tournament in Pakistan in February-March.



Players offered NZC central contracts must commit to being available for both the BLACKCAPS and the domestic Dream11 Super Smash competition.

Williamson said his decision should not be interpreted as a sign he was losing interest in international cricket; on the contrary, he remained open to potentially accepting a central contract offer in the future.

Representing New Zealand was still a priority.

“Helping push the team forward across the formats is something I’m very passionate about and something I want to keep contributing towards,” he said

“However, pursuing an overseas opportunity during the New Zealand summer means I’m unable to accept a central contract offer.”

He was pleased to find a way to balance a hectic playing schedule with his ongoing passion to play for his country.

“Playing for New Zealand is something I treasure, and my desire to give back to the team remains undiminished.

“My life outside cricket has changed however - spending more time with my family and enjoying experiences with them at home or abroad is something that’s even more important to me.”



NZC CEO Scott Weenink said Williamson was a great New Zealand player who had earned the right to take some time off to pursue other goals, including family-oriented priorities.

“This is a good way to help keep Kane in the international game so that he continues to play a major role for the BLACKCAPS – both now and in the years to come,” said Mr Weenink.

“We have very little international cricket in New Zealand through January and outside that period he’s still available for the BLACKCAPS.

“NZC has a strong preference to select centrally contracted players for the BLACKCAPS, however we’re happy to make an exception for our greatest ever batter – especially as he remains so committed to the team.

“I know it sounds a bit counterintuitive, but I’m very encouraged by this development.”

Pace bowler Lockie Ferguson has also indicated he won’t accept a central contract offer when the contracting process opens.

An announcement covering the final list of contract offers is likely next month.
 
NZ winter season is June to August, so it means KW seeking Hundred or MLC contract?

Are these that much lucrative compared to NZ central contract??

In IPL terms his earning potential is over. He will at best be picked as a squad player for around 150-250k$ in next auction if selected at all
 
pratiktc said:
NZ winter season is June to August, so it means KW seeking Hundred or MLC contract?

Are these that much lucrative compared to NZ central contract??

In IPL terms his earning potential is over. He will at best be picked as a squad player for around 150-250k$ in next auction if selected at all
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He will only be skipping useless bilaterals, will still play every test match he possibly can.

I can understand it from his perspective tbh, he only has a couple of years of peak earning power left.

NZ central contracts are peanuts compared to the Big 3, Pat Cummins makes 5 times of what Kane does
 
pratiktc said:
NZ winter season is June to August, so it means KW seeking Hundred or MLC contract?

Are these that much lucrative compared to NZ central contract??

In IPL terms his earning potential is over. He will at best be picked as a squad player for around 150-250k$ in next auction if selected at all
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ILT20 and SA20 are fairly lucrative and taking place at the same time, which is also when NZ's home season takes place. I think they are probably the highest paying leagues now after IPL. Though the gap is quite significant obviously.
 
Kane Williamson stepping down as captain.

Now the RizBar PR machine have no excuse left to defend Babar…

“But but but New Zealand still back Kane Williamson to lead despite not getting them over the line…” 🤡
 
Rana said:
Kane Williamson stepping down as captain.

Now the RizBar PR machine have no excuse left to defend Babar…

“But but but New Zealand still back Kane Williamson to lead despite not getting them over the line…” 🤡
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Once he could no longer ensure semi's, it was clear Williamson would step down. Cause you know, he wants to cultivate the future.

Babar and rizwan only want to cultivate themselves, Too bad they decided they should bloom in a desert. No wonder their growth is stagnant.
 
Kane Williamson's white-ball captaincy for Kiwis in ICC events:

Two-time finalists
Three-time semi-finalists
Two-time Group Stage exits
 
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DSG LAND BLACK CAPS SUPERSTAR KANE WILLIAMSON FOR BETWAY SA20 SEASON 3​


Durban's Super Giants have completed a major coup with the signing of New Zealand superstar Kane Williamson for Betway SA20 Season 3.

Williamson is the Black Caps’ second highest run-scorer ever across all formats with 18 128 runs in 358 matches.

The 33-year-old has played 100 Test matches (8743 runs at an average of 54.98) and a further 165 ODI’s (6810 runs at average of 48.64).

Williamson’s short format record is equally impressive with the stylish right-hander having played 93 T20I's (2575 runs at an average of 33.44 at a strike-rate of 123.08).

The Tauranga-born star is renowned for his exemplary leadership qualities, having overseen the most successful period in New Zealand cricket history.

Williamson led the Black Caps to the epic 2019 ICC Men's ODI World Cup Final against England at Lord's, which is widely regarded as the greatest 50-overs match of all time.

Two years later Williamson capped this golden era for New Zealand cricket when he raised the inaugural World Test Championship golden mace after the Blacks Caps defeated powerhouse India in the final in Southampton.

Williamson struck an undefeated half-century in the second innings to guide his team home.

A few months later in 2021, he also steered the Black Caps to the ICC Men's T20 World Cup Final against antipodean rivals Australia in Dubai.

Williamson’s T20 franchise pedigree is of the highest standard. He has been prolific in the Indian Premier League, finishing as the leading run-scorer in the 2018 season with 735 runs for Sunrisers Hyderabad.

He has also been an IPL champion on two occasions with Sunrisers Hyderabad (2016) and Gujarat Titans (2022).

Kane had this to say about the upcoming season: "Really excited to be a part of the SA20 this season with Durban's Super Giants. Looking forward to meeting Keshav, Lance and the boys, and playing in front of a packed house at Kingsmead. Can't wait!”

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Kane Williamson has lost his number 1 spot in the latest ICC ranking as Joe Root is now the new number 1 batter in tests following his brilliant run of form against West Indies.

Kane is not playing that many test matches anyways.
 
8,743 Test runs
6,811 ODI runs
54.99 Test average
32 Test centuries
2019 World Cup Player of the Tournament
2021 World Test Championship-winning captain

Happy 33rd Birthday to Kane Williamson, New Zealand’s cricket legend.
 
Star New Zealand batter may not have had a great day on Day 3 of the second Test against New Zealand at Galle International Stadium, Galle as he got dismissed for scores of 7 and 46. However, it was good enough for him to leave behind star India batter Virat Kohli in the list of leading run scorers in Test cricket.

During his second innings of the day, Williamson’s 37th run helped him surpass Virat Kohli’s tally of 8871 runs in Test cricket.
 
Kane is very overrated. He is a HTB and minnow basher. If i recall correctly His avg in India SL SA and England is not great.
 
Yeah can't rate him highly.

I know he gets 2 tests but Sangakkara and YK did much better overseas than KW in those 2 tests. Even the likes of Kallis, Amla, AB did better when they use to get two test series, they have performed in first test itself. So, this can't be an excuse.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Kane is very overrated. He is a HTB and minnow basher. If i recall correctly His avg in India SL SA and England is not great.
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Kane's record in Ind, SA, Aus, Eng, SL

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Kane's record in Pak, WI, BD, Zim

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Williamson is closer to the level of Pujara, Rahane, Azhar Ali etc. than Root and Smith.

The only reason he was forced into the Fab Four comparison is because Crowe had force a NZ batsman into the debate.
 
Mamoon said:
Williamson is closer to the level of Pujara, Rahane, Azhar Ali etc. than Root and Smith.

The only reason he was forced into the Fab Four comparison is because Crowe had force a NZ batsman into the debate.
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He's considered an atg captain and not an atg batter.

He didn't have the strongest team, infact his batting resources were next to none in 2015 and 2019 and he had bowling resources but they still were not the best.

Taking NZ to the final unbeaten in 2015 and managing to defeat the strongest aussie team since classic era in their own den was a remarkable achievement considering stronger teams got crushed and not a single team besides NZ managed to beat that team. Obviously final they stood no chance really and frankly the victory in the group stages was a massive fluke, But it's insanely impressive nonetheless.

Similarly in 2019, he used his resources to perfection and tbh, England kinda cheated? The rule of tie made zero sense and the super over should have been restarted. The fact they rectified it years later kinda proves it.

He genuinely had very few resources and frankly speaking NZ bowling in 2015 and 2019 wasn't as strong as people are to believe, it's just good onfield decisons and the bowlers listening to their captain and bowling according to the field set which led them to be so lethal.
 
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