Technics 1210
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Don’t underestimate how many people are digital thinkers. Tories were for Brexit, so Labour must be for Remain. That’s how a lot of people think. There are only two positions to them - me and not-me, and anything they agree with because anchored onto the me people and what they disagree with becomes anchored onto not-me.
Additionally the 2017 manifesto was more credible and the AS scandal had not really bitten Labour.
Oligarchs at home and overseas distorted the referendum to suit their own ends and that is fundamentally undemocratic. Now you will see more and more power concentrated in very few hands while the influence of the courts is curtailed, Othering is used as a tool and we are well on the way to fascism.
I voted Labour for thirty years due to a commitment to social justice. I joined the LDs when it became clear to me that Labour were no longer seriously trying to get elected by choosing Corbyn. The pragmatic and capable left leaders of my youth were replaced by a not-very-bright messianic figure supported by a personality cult, so I was off.
Now I want to see a progressive alliance led by a moderate Labour leader supported by LD, Plaid and Greens work together for victory in 2024, then beat back the rising fascist tide.
The digital descion you refer to was only evident when the parties published their manifestos in 2019.
In 2017 the choice was simple:
Tories : Brexit means Brexit
Labour : Referendum result would be honoured.
LDs : Stop Brexit.
Labour in 2017 gained seats.
In 2019 the choice was simple
Tories : Get brexit done
Labour : 2nd referendum
LDs : stop brexit.
Tories win by landslide, Labour demolished, and LDs effective wiped out.
Labour changed its position on Brexit in 2019 and paid the price. LDs didn't learn from 2017. Nothing to do with AS given the reason people gave for not voting Labour were either Brexit position or Corbyn as a leader. AS wasn't even in the frame and even if it were, at best, it would effect one constituent.
Now if you think AS was a reason, then I put to you people voted Tories too because of Islamophobia in the party.
I too was a Labour supporter, but I have now lost faith in the Democratic system. They only time my vote mattered was in 2016, and the irony is, Remainers did not want to respect the true form of democracy while championing democracy.
Next 5 years will be interesting no doubt, and if Tories deliver on Brexit, and boost the economy, then my bet is that Boris will out run Thatcher.