Los Angeles wildfire and the celebrations by Muslims; No wonder why Islamophobia exists

[Major]

Everyone of you knows about the wildfire that has spread through out areas of LA where massive number of homes have burned down to ashes. Interestingly, Muslims on social media were celebrating this and many people were saying Alhamdulillah and MashAllah to what has taken place.

Alot of these comments were because of USA's stance on the Israel-Palestine issue.

Muslims have whined about Islamophobia existing against them, and i have said this many times that if Islamophobia does exists, its exists due to the actions of the Muslims themselves. The aftermath of this event in LA is not gonna look good, especially when it comes to relations with Muslims in future in multicultural societies.

Plz dont merge this thread, its a separate one as it discusses how muslims have reacted to this event

 

[sweep_shot]

My position is this:

1) If someone supported Israeli attacks on innocent Palestinian civilians and that someone lost his house in this California fire, I don't feel sorry. I am glad he lost his house since the person is a monster. One example would be James Woods. I am very glad he lost his house and cried on TV like a little girl.

2) If someone was compassionate toward Palestinian cause and that someone lost house/business, I definitely feel sorry and I hope he will recover his losses soon. I may even donate a few bucks just to help him out a bit. It doesn't matter whether the person is a Muslim or non-Muslim. My compassion is with him.

 

[Major]

My position is this:

1) If someone supported Israeli attacks on innocent Palestinian civilians and that someone lost his house in this California fire, I don't feel sorry. I am glad he lost his house since the person is a monster. One example would be James Woods. I am very glad he lost his house and cried on TV like a little girl.

2) If someone was compassionate toward Palestinian cause and that someone lost house/business, I definitely feel sorry and I hope he will recover his losses soon. I may even donate a few bucks just to help him out a bit. It doesn't matter whether the person is a Muslim or non-Muslim. My compassion is with him.

So your compassion is conditional to whether the other person supports your political views or not.

 

[sweep_shot]

So your compassion is conditional to whether the other person supports your political views or not.

There are some people who support Israeli attacks on innocent Palestinian women and children. If they lose their houses in California fire, why would I feel sorry?

Having said that, I think most people are good people and my compassion is with them definitely.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Not surprising. I still remember the celebrations across the Islamic world when WTC went down on 9-11.

 

[Vikram1989]

Every one knows major is always a proponent of rules to be followed by all . Earlier too he raised few scenarios where all groups of people wants to follow as per their own agenda.

 

[Hitman]

Does it surprise you? The world has gotten used to it by now.

 

[Varun]

Islamophobia against the Muslims in the West shouldn't matter if the Muslims in question were self sufficient and didn't need the Western world in today's age.

The fact is they do, and as long as the they would much rather reside in Los Angeles or London than Lahore, they should exercise caution and not bite the hand that feeds them.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I haven't seen many people celebrating it. Most people have been saying that it shows the US should focus on it's own budgets rather than drop bombs on kids across the world. Is that a celebration? Trump supporters are saying the same thing.

 

[IMMY69]

I haven't seen many people celebrating it. Most people have been saying that it shows the US should focus on it's own budgets rather than drop bombs on kids across the world. Is that a celebration? Trump supporters are saying the same thing.

Likewise...
Where is this coming from?

 

[KingKhanWC]

It's not about America its about evil people who glee or encourage death on others suffering themselves now .

I'd be happy if Zardari, his son & those corrupt people who made a living off him also see suffering

 

[Bhaijaan]

My position is this:

1) If someone supported Israeli attacks on innocent Palestinian civilians and that someone lost his house in this California fire, I don't feel sorry. I am glad he lost his house since the person is a monster. One example would be James Woods. I am very glad he lost his house and cried on TV like a little girl.

2) If someone was compassionate toward Palestinian cause and that someone lost house/business, I definitely feel sorry and I hope he will recover his losses soon. I may even donate a few bucks just to help him out a bit. It doesn't matter whether the person is a Muslim or non-Muslim. My compassion is with him.

No wonder Bangladesh destroyed itself and so many innocent Hindus had to suffer from terrorists in that country.

 

[Bhaijaan]

In last few days, posters like @Slim amd @Major have grown in my eyes through their sensible posts calling for self introspection in the Islamic world. I fully support the message by these brothers and i have maintained that in the last many years more and more Pakistanis are transitioning to the other side of heightened sensibility as a human being and have attained the mindset of a global citizen who is aware of the realities of the world and of religions, nations and knows what’s best for humanity moving forward.

I will refrain from posting much here because it will be seen as opportunistic and Pakistanis will use it to attack Major bhai by saying look you created a thread and now these enemies are using it to belittle Muslims and Pakistanis. I want to give Muslims line Major, Slim the ploy to express themselves here rather than me influencing this.

If this criticism thinking remains the norm, Pakistan will get on the right track of progress and will see better days in the future hopefully. I am with you all.

Road to redemption starts with utmost honesty.

 

[Bhaijaan]

I haven't seen many people celebrating it. Most people have been saying that it shows the US should focus on it's own budgets rather than drop bombs on kids across the world. Is that a celebration? Trump supporters are saying the same thing.

Bro, your ex Prime Minister who is in jail for being a chor, once said Osama Bin Laden the perpetrator of 9/11 terrorist attack is a qaumi hero.

If a PR trained, former legendary cricketer can say this in parliament then you are doubting ordinary Muslims do not do this?

Don’t defend it blindly.
What @Major bhai is claiming is a sad reality which must be addressed honestly rather than being ridiculed like this. We all know this happens.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I haven't seen many people celebrating it. Most people have been saying that it shows the US should focus on it's own budgets rather than drop bombs on kids across the world. Is that a celebration? Trump supporters are saying the same thing.

Maybe there is stuff on social media. I can imagine there will be Muslims across the world who are sick of seeing bombs from the USA flattening Muslim cities across the world, who take some form of sadistic pleasure in seeing US cities in flames for a change, although this is obviously wrong. This is a natural disaster, not some form of divine punishment.

 

[FearlessRoar]

What about those who celebrate the massacre in Palestine?

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Who's celebrating??

 

[SpiritOf1903]

In last few days, posters like @Slim amd @Major have grown in my eyes through their sensible posts calling for self introspection in the Islamic world. I fully support the message by these brothers and i have maintained that in the last many years more and more Pakistanis are transitioning to the other side of heightened sensibility as a human being and have attained the mindset of a global citizen who is aware of the realities of the world and of religions, nations and knows what’s best for humanity moving forward.

I will refrain from posting much here because it will be seen as opportunistic and Pakistanis will use it to attack Major bhai by saying look you created a thread and now these enemies are using it to belittle Muslims and Pakistanis. I want to give Muslims line Major, Slim the ploy to express themselves here rather than me influencing this.

If this criticism thinking remains the norm, Pakistan will get on the right track of progress and will see better days in the future hopefully. I am with you all.

Road to redemption starts with utmost honesty.

So Major ISS an Indian troll. Goodness gracious me!

 

[topspin]

I haven't seen many people celebrating it. Most people have been saying that it shows the US should focus on it's own budgets rather than drop bombs on kids across the world. Is that a celebration? Trump supporters are saying the same thing.

Likewise...
Where is this coming from?

Who's celebrating??

Exactly what I was thinking after stumbling across this thread.

If this really is a thing, OP should at least post their sources.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

What about those who celebrate the massacre in Palestine?

Well James Wood the celebrity actor was one, and his home is one of those burned down.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Exactly what I was thinking after stumbling across this thread.

If this really is a thing, OP should at least post their sources.

He must have some unverified Raw data.....

 

[topspin]

The only famous Muslim that I know who’s made a post about this tragedy is Omar Suleiman.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the OP saw this post on social media and got triggered by it. If you read the caption, he wasn’t celebrating this for goodness sake.

 

[topspin]

He must have some unverified Raw data.....

It’s just another attention seeking thread, which has been posted to create futile discussion.

 

[RexRex]

I haven't seen too many celebrating. Maybe you move around in fringe circles @Major

 

[IndoorCricket]

Not wride spread. But yes, I have seen few deragned people celebrating mainly among Muslims.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Well James Wood the celebrity actor was one, and his home is one of those burned down.

It's not something I would celebrate but it's hard to feel sympathy for the guy.

 

[The_KING]

Non Muslims celebrate Muslims getting mascaraed in places like Palestine, but Muslims are supposed to feel sorry for Non Muslims facing the wrath of God. Am I supposed to feel sorry for some Zionists getting their houses burned down in California? No, I don't feel sorry for them.

Muslims should stop worrying about Islamophobia and what non Muslims think of us. Our job isn't to please them, but rather Allah. I couldn't care less if non Muslims hate me because I am a Muslim.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Some of the posters in this thread have already exposed themselves to prove OP right.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Not wride spread. But yes, I have seen few deragned people celebrating mainly among Muslims.

That's not even true, was surprised to see the amount of people celebrating on other media channels, seems to be a lot of folk who don't like him because he was a loud mouth Republican.

 

[Major]

I haven't seen many people celebrating it. Most people have been saying that it shows the US should focus on it's own budgets rather than drop bombs on kids across the world. Is that a celebration? Trump supporters are saying the same thing.

Bro social media is filled with muslims celebrating what is happening in LA

 

[Major]

I haven't seen too many celebrating. Maybe you move around in fringe circles @Major

Go on facebook and type muslims la fire.

There are alot of posts where muslims celebrated this, and called it a divine intervention and karma. Infact, alot of people are now calling out muslims for the hate they spread last few days. There are even tiktok videos aswell

Like even in this thread there is a poster, living abroad, and chest thumping that we shouldnt feel sorry for them....

 

[Major]

It's not about America its about evil people who glee or encourage death on others suffering themselves now .

I'd be happy if Zardari, his son & those corrupt people who made a living off him also see suffering

So basically your stance is, if someones political views dont align with yours, you are happy to see their deaths.

 

[psyoptica]

I haven't seen many people celebrating it. Most people have been saying that it shows the US should focus on it's own budgets rather than drop bombs on kids across the world. Is that a celebration? Trump supporters are saying the same thing.

Exactly. Major is trying to come across as some man of principle that he wouldn’t spare even muslims from his criticism if he sees them doing something wrong. Fact of the matter is, muslims living in the west specially in North America are upstanding citizens and won’t purposely do things to harm their reputation. I have spent 10 years living in the US and 15 years living in Canada. The muslims here do a lot of charity work to help communities and try to maintain good relationships with all other groups. If you go by social media, you can always find outliers if you dig deep enough. Not saying people aren’t vocal on the issue of Israel Gaza and sometimes their expression of supports for the Muslims living in Gaza culminates in friction with the local communities and disrupts their peace but I can sort of understand from their stand point they feel strongly about the issue and think they need to protest strongly to highlight the issue. Major doesn’t live here and doesn’t know the reality of people and their thinking here. His post maybe to the likes of the hindu indians on this platforms and he might get a few likes from them but I really don’t think its a big issue that impact Muslims.
I do like to see examples of these social media posts and the exact platform and channel where they were posted.

 

[KingKhanWC]

So basically your stance is, if someones political views dont align with yours, you are happy to see their deaths.

Not political but those who have caused harm to others & those who enjoy others suffering. They dont deserve sympathy

 

[Major]

Not political but those who have caused harm to others & those who enjoy others suffering. They dont deserve sympathy

Foreign policy is something that is not decided by common people. And people sitting in LA, and at Malibou were not framing the foreign policy of USA.

To say Mashallah, call it Gods revenge to a guy who just had his house burned down to ashes is just ridiculous.

The US foreign policy is framed by the senate and the non elected CIA.

 

[Major]

Exactly. Major is trying to come across as some man of principle that he wouldn’t spare even muslims from his criticism if he sees them doing something wrong. Fact of the matter is, muslims living in the west specially in North America are upstanding citizens and won’t purposely do things to harm their reputation. I have spent 10 years living in the US and 15 years living in Canada. The muslims here do a lot of charity work to help communities and try to maintain good relationships with all other groups. If you go by social media, you can always find outliers if you dig deep enough. Not saying people aren’t vocal on the issue of Israel Gaza and sometimes their expression of supports for the Muslims living in Gaza culminates in friction with the local communities and disrupts their peace but I can sort of understand from their stand point they feel strongly about the issue and think they need to protest strongly to highlight the issue. Major doesn’t live here and doesn’t know the reality of people and their thinking here. His post maybe to the likes of the hindu indians on this platforms and he might get a few likes from them but I really don’t think its a big issue that impact Muslims.
I do like to see examples of these social media posts and the exact platform and channel where they were posted.

There is a whole sex crime thread posted that discusses how certain groups are involved, so how can you say that muslims would never do anything wrong to protect their reputation?

No group cares about the reputation of their religious group. They only use it as a victim card when they are caught with their hypocritical acts.

I have lived 10 years abroad. I have seen people that live amongst their own, not wanting to assimilate and hating on the existing culture and trying to implement sharia in a foreign land.

Countries often unite when they go through such major disasters and the destruction of 10k homes is not a small thing. With these celebratory comments being made by Muslims slowly showing up, it will only lead to a new wave of Islamophobia. Plus a guy like Trump, who wants stricter immigration laws against middle eastern countries will offcourse add fuel to this issue aswell.

 

[emranabbas]

Everyone of you knows about the wildfire that has spread through out areas of LA where massive number of homes have burned down to ashes. Interestingly, Muslims on social media were celebrating this and many people were saying Alhamdulillah and MashAllah to what has taken place.

Alot of these comments were because of USA's stance on the Israel-Palestine issue.

Muslims have whined about Islamophobia existing against them, and i have said this many times that if Islamophobia does exists, its exists due to the actions of the Muslims themselves. The aftermath of this event in LA is not gonna look good, especially when it comes to relations with Muslims in future in multicultural societies.

Plz dont merge this thread, its a separate one as it discusses how muslims have reacted to this event

Major, you sound like an RSS spokesperson.

You're portraying it as if every other Muslim is celebrating the events in LA. In reality, maybe just a handful are drawing comparisons to what's happening in Gaza, but I have yet to see a single post where Muslims are openly celebrating.

Could you please provide examples to support your claim?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Go on facebook and type muslims la fire.

There are alot of posts where muslims celebrated this, and called it a divine intervention and karma. Infact, alot of people are now calling out muslims for the hate they spread last few days. There are even tiktok videos aswell

Like even in this thread there is a poster, living abroad, and chest thumping that we shouldnt feel sorry for them....

If you type in Muslims obviously you will get Muslims in your search results. Pretty weird thing to do to be honest.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

There is a whole sex crime thread posted that discusses how certain groups are involved, so how can you say that muslims would never do anything wrong to protect their reputation?

No group cares about the reputation of their religious group. They only use it as a victim card when they are caught with their hypocritical acts.

I have lived 10 years abroad. I have seen people that live amongst their own, not wanting to assimilate and hating on the existing culture and trying to implement sharia in a foreign land.

Countries often unite when they go through such major disasters and the destruction of 10k homes is not a small thing. With these celebratory comments being made by Muslims slowly showing up, it will only lead to a new wave of Islamophobia. Plus a guy like Trump, who wants stricter immigration laws against middle eastern countries will offcourse add fuel to this issue aswell.

Are they American Muslims celebrating the fires?

 

[Major]

Major, you sound like an RSS spokesperson.

You're portraying it as if every other Muslim is celebrating the events in LA. In reality, maybe just a handful are drawing comparisons to what's happening in Gaza, but I have yet to see a single post where Muslims are openly celebrating.

Could you please provide examples to support your claim?

You can go and search them on facebook. There are threads on reddit regarding this if you simply google it.

 

[Major]

If you type in Muslims obviously you will get Muslims in your search results. Pretty weird thing to do to be honest.

So you have no issue with a muslim feeling happy about LA burning and claiming it to be wrath of God due to Israel-Palestine war?

 

[emranabbas]

Bro social media is filled with muslims celebrating what is happening in LA

I searched this on Facebook, and all I found were posts of people asking Muslims not to celebrate. I haven’t come across a single post or video showing Muslims jumping up and down, dancing, or celebrating.

 

[psyoptica]

There is a whole sex crime thread posted that discusses how certain groups are involved, so how can you say that muslims would never do anything wrong to protect their reputation?

No group cares about the reputation of their religious group. They only use it as a victim card when they are caught with their hypocritical acts.

I have lived 10 years abroad. I have seen people that live amongst their own, not wanting to assimilate and hating on the existing culture and trying to implement sharia in a foreign land.

Countries often unite when they go through such major disasters and the destruction of 10k homes is not a small thing. With these celebratory comments being made by Muslims slowly showing up, it will only lead to a new wave of Islamophobia. Plus a guy like Trump, who wants stricter immigration laws against middle eastern countries will offcourse add fuel to this issue aswell.

This maybe a UK thing but doesn't happen here in the American continent. I don't disagree with you that people should priotize the country where they choose to live and earn but assimilation doesn't mean you have to give up on your identity. You can keep your identity and values, so long as they don't conflict with the local values, and still be and upstanding citizen by respecting the law and communities that inhabit the same space as you.

It's hard for me to believe there's a trend of muslims celebrating the loss of life and property just because they were non Muslims. Please provide hard evidence of this being the norm.

 

[emranabbas]

So you have no issue with a muslim feeling happy about LA burning and claiming it to be wrath of God due to Israel-Palestine war?

You can't force people to feel sorry for the Americans.

Some people are simply neutral in this matter and don't care and just saying "Allah SWT ki marzi" or that it's Allah SWT ka azhab.

That doesn't mean they are celebrating.

 

[psyoptica]

I searched this on Facebook, and all I found were posts of people asking Muslims not to celebrate. I haven’t come across a single post or video showing Muslims jumping up and down, dancing, or celebrating.

Yes. The OP is pretty stupid and lacks concerete evidence to back up the claims made. If you know Major you know he holds prejudice against Muslims practicing their faith. I'm not a practicing Muslim myself and don't agree with a lot of things Muslims believe in but they are part of the soceity whether you like it or not. Muslims have co existed with other communities for a long time and never had any issues. Don't see a reason they would stir something up now to cause problems for themselves and their childrens down the line.

 

[Major]

This maybe a UK thing but doesn't happen here in the American continent. I don't disagree with you that people should priotize the country where they choose to live and earn but assimilation doesn't mean you have to give up on your identity. You can keep your identity and values, so long as they don't conflict with the local values, and still be and upstanding citizen by respecting the law and communities that inhabit the same space as you.

It's hard for me to believe there's a trend of muslims celebrating the loss of life and property just because they were non Muslims. Please provide hard evidence of this being the norm.

Sir, it is for you to search on social media. Because whatever i will post here will be denied as usual. But anywyas here are a few examples

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The Best surprise gift on my birthday. The castle of James Wood is also burnt to hell in This fire who was continuously tweeting against Palestine and he...

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There are even threads on reddit discussing the same issue regaring muslims being happy about this.

On many videos and reels of fb muslims are making disgusting comments

 

[Major]

You can't force people to feel sorry for the Americans.

Some people are simply neutral in this matter and don't care and just saying "Allah SWT ki marzi" or that it's Allah SWT ka azhab.

That doesn't mean they are celebrating.

No one is forcing anyone to feel sorry. But there is a saying that if you cant say anything nice than dont say anything at all.

That being said, if you cant feel sorry and can feel rejoice than plz dont use the victim card of islamophobia because this hate has bee bought on themselves by their actions

 

[Major]

Yes. The OP is pretty stupid and lacks concerete evidence to back up the claims made. If you know Major you know he holds prejudice against Muslims practicing their faith. I'm not a practicing Muslim myself and don't agree with a lot of things Muslims believe in but they are part of the soceity whether you like it or not. Muslims have co existed with other communities for a long time and never had any issues. Don't see a reason they would stir something up now to cause problems for themselves and their childrens down the line.

First you go around saying that muslims wont do anything that damages their reputation and when i bought up the sex crime issue, you change your stance to oh, its a uk thing, but muslims of amreka are different.

But hey i am the stupid one here i guess...

Muslims are celebrating houses burning down, but your main concern is that oh look muslims have co existed so lets just ignore the muslims that made celebratory comments and dont take those comments as reasons for more muslim hate.

 

[Major]

I searched this on Facebook, and all I found were posts of people asking Muslims not to celebrate. I haven’t come across a single post or video showing Muslims jumping up and down, dancing, or celebrating.

Why are people asking muslims not to celebrate, because there are muslims that are celebrating this.

 

[emranabbas]

Sir, it is for you to search on social media. Because whatever i will post here will be denied as usual. But anywyas here are a few examples

9.632 Aufrufe · 247 Reaktionen | The Best surprise gift on my birthday. The castle of James Wood is also burnt to hell in This fire who was continuously tweeting against Palestine and he... | By U S Q | Facebook

The Best surprise gift on my birthday. The castle of James Wood is also burnt to hell in This fire who was continuously tweeting against Palestine and he...

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There are even threads on reddit discussing the same issue regaring muslims being happy about this.

On many videos and reels of fb muslims are making disgusting commentsView attachment 149619View attachment 149617

Where is the celebration? Just because people aren’t feeling pity for America doesn’t mean they are celebrating.

Where are the celebrations?

 

[emranabbas]

Why are people asking muslims not to celebrate, because there are muslims that are celebrating this.

Maybe they are just assuming things just like how you are

 

[Major]

Maybe they are just assuming things just like how you are

So now its a maybe? Like i said, me posting ss was gonna be irrelevent, because you will just tip toe around it

Where is the celebration? Just because people aren’t feeling pity for America doesn’t mean they are celebrating.

Where are the celebrations?

Someones house is burning, and a muslim posts a video claiming it as the best surprise on his birthday.........

Posts being made by Muslim posters here only further proves what i have written...

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Sir, it is for you to search on social media. Because whatever i will post here will be denied as usual. But anywyas here are a few examples

9.632 Aufrufe · 247 Reaktionen | The Best surprise gift on my birthday. The castle of James Wood is also burnt to hell in This fire who was continuously tweeting against Palestine and he... | By U S Q | Facebook

The Best surprise gift on my birthday. The castle of James Wood is also burnt to hell in This fire who was continuously tweeting against Palestine and he...

www.facebook.com

There are even threads on reddit discussing the same issue regaring muslims being happy about this.

On many videos and reels of fb muslims are making disgusting commentsView attachment 149619View attachment 149617

So you think some Muslims tweeting against the genocide sympathiser justifies islamophobia?

Can't we go one step back and say James Wood tweets in favour of Israeli genocide justify American phobic comments he is getting?

 

[emranabbas]

So now its a maybe? Like i said, me posting ss was gonna be irrelevent, because you will just tip toe around it

They are just posting for attention like how you are I live here in UK to ve fair nobody is even talking about it don't know what's the situation in Pakistan

Someones house is burning, and a muslim posts a video claiming it as the best surprise on his birthday.........

That's 1 invidual and not muslimS

Posts being made by Muslim posters here only further proves what i have written...

 

[psyoptica]

Sir, it is for you to search on social media. Because whatever i will post here will be denied as usual. But anywyas here are a few examples

9.632 Aufrufe · 247 Reaktionen | The Best surprise gift on my birthday. The castle of James Wood is also burnt to hell in This fire who was continuously tweeting against Palestine and he... | By U S Q | Facebook

The Best surprise gift on my birthday. The castle of James Wood is also burnt to hell in This fire who was continuously tweeting against Palestine and he...

www.facebook.com

There are even threads on reddit discussing the same issue regaring muslims being happy about this.

On many videos and reels of fb muslims are making disgusting commentsView attachment 149619View attachment 149617

And these comments on Facebook actually prove what? If you go by youtube and facebook, there's a ton of conent, fake and stupid content that gets traction in millions and you read comments and think people can't be this stupid. If you factor in the type of audience that exists on these platforms, still it's not a reflection on Muslims that live in western societies.
Also that post above shows what kind of content/people you follow. From what I have seen so far, people are specifically reacting to that James Wood video as a form of consolation for his views against muslims. I find it hard to sympathize with a billionare celebrity also who doesn't think the lives of innocent Muslims are important because they are Palestinian. You can't expect people to feel sympathy for you when you advocate for the murder and killing of their children while you live in the comfort and safety of your multi million dollar mansion.

 

[The_KING]

Why are people asking muslims not to celebrate, because there are muslims that are celebrating this.

Does it bother you when non muslims celebrate Muslims facing calamities?

 

[psyoptica]

First you go around saying that muslims wont do anything that damages their reputation and when i bought up the sex crime issue, you change your stance to oh, its a uk thing, but muslims of amreka are different.

But hey i am the stupid one here i guess...

Muslims are celebrating houses burning down, but your main concern is that oh look muslims have co existed so lets just ignore the muslims that made celebratory comments and dont take those comments as reasons for more muslim hate.

You are as thick as a lot of muslim hating Indian posters here and there is no point in debating with you because you are set in your ways and nothing can change that. I actually enjoy debating with people with contrary views that make me question my own beliefs but I have made it a point to never have a serious debate with Indians and the likes of you who are here for point scoring and arguing for the sake of it. All I can do is show you the mirror an move on.

 

[sweep_shot]

Posts being made by Muslim posters here only further proves what i have written...

Nobody celebrated anything here.

James Woods is an evil person who opposed Gaza ceasefire. He enjoyed sufferings of Palestinians (see post #22). So, why would I feel compassion about him? He is a monster. I have no sympathy for him and likes of him.

Having said that, I believe many California people are good people. I hope they will recover from their losses. My compassion is with them 100%.

 

[psyoptica]

OP will make it a point to highlight something so trivial as it puts the Muslims in bad light but will stay silent when there are Muslims who are the victims. Tells you all you need to know about the OP. He has very clearly chosen sides and people who have been here long enough know that very well.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

So you have no issue with a muslim feeling happy about LA burning and claiming it to be wrath of God due to Israel-Palestine war?

I already said it was wrong earlier in the thread. But you said countries unite around a disaster which I agree with. But when I asked you whether it was American Muslims celebrating the catastrophe you didn't answer.

 

[Major]

So you think some Muslims tweeting against the genocide sympathiser justifies islamophobia?

Can't we go one step back and say James Wood tweets in favour of Israeli genocide justify American phobic comments he is getting?

How do you know that all the 10k houses that were burned down belong to genocide sympathisers?

Again, if someones political view doesnt align with yours, you think its ok to say Mashallah when his house burns down?

Islamophobia exists due to the actions of Muslims. If Mr.Khan sitting in Pakistan celebrates the burning of houses in USA, dont expect Americans to be favourable to Muslims than in future.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

How do you know that all the 10k houses that were burned down belong to genocide sympathisers?

Again, if someones political view doesnt align with yours, you think its ok to say Mashallah when his house burns down?

Islamophobia exists due to the actions of Muslims. If Mr.Khan sitting in Pakistan celebrates the burning of houses in USA, dont expect Americans to be favourable to Muslims than in future.

If you are using social media as a barometer of public sentiment, then Americans were celebrating the earthquakes in Iran.

 

[Major]

Does it bother you when non muslims celebrate Muslims facing calamities?

Anyone celebrating a calamities does bother me. Nice try with the whataboutism to defend the actions of muslims here.

Again, when you make it Non Muslims vs Muslims (indicating everyone is after Muslims), you are reingofrcing the whole point

 

[Major]

If you are using social media as a barometer of public sentiment, then Americans were celebrating the earthquakes in Iran.

Again that is pathetic from them that celebrated it and it will only fuel further hate from Iranians towards Americans and you are free to make a thread on that.

But does that justify how Muslims are celebrating and saying Mashallah to 10k houses burning down? Will such comments not fuel Islamophobia?

 

[Major]

OP will make it a point to highlight something so trivial as it puts the Muslims in bad light but will stay silent when there are Muslims who are the victims. Tells you all you need to know about the OP. He has very clearly chosen sides and people who have been here long enough know that very well.

Its sad how celebration regarding someones house being burned down is considered trivial. Than again, nowadays most posters are just here to score points and when its againts them than instead of addressing the topic they want to shut down the OP.

People themselves asked for SS, even though i told them they can search it up themselves, and when they didnt like the SS they saw, instead of condemning it, its the OPs fault.

 

[Major]

They are just posting for attention like how you are I live here in UK to ve fair nobody is even talking about it don't know what's the situation in Pakistan



That's 1 invidual and not muslimS

I showed you the SS of one individual. Like i said, you search the social media, i cant go around posting every ss out there.

again, instead of condemning such acts you are just finding ways to brush this under the carpet, which only proves my point.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

How do you know that all the 10k houses that were burned down belong to genocide sympathisers?

Again, if someones political view doesnt align with yours, you think its ok to say Mashallah when his house burns down?

Islamophobia exists due to the actions of Muslims. If Mr.Khan sitting in Pakistan celebrates the burning of houses in USA, dont expect Americans to be favourable to Muslims than in future.

I have only seen people highlighting this filthy actors tweet not all 10,000 people and there is nothing wrong with making a comparison between Gaza and LA. It can help the Americans to put themselves in the shoes of Palestinians.

And again, if Mr Actor Sahib celebrates the killing of children then the world shouldn't expect Muslims to be favourable to America. I don't agree with anyone feeling happy at the plights of the Americans but your argument here is flawed brother. You are suffering from an inferiority complex it seems where you can give Americans a pass to say what they like online but take exception to some randomer Muslim on YouTube saying something.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

OP will make it a point to highlight something so trivial as it puts the Muslims in bad light but will stay silent when there are Muslims who are the victims. Tells you all you need to know about the OP. He has very clearly chosen sides and people who have been here long enough know that very well.

Please employ husnu dhan brother

 

[Major]

I have only seen people highlighting this filthy actors tweet not all 10,000 people and there is nothing wrong with making a comparison between Gaza and LA. It can help the Americans to put themselves in the shoes of Palestinians.

And again, if Mr Actor Sahib celebrates the killing of children then the world shouldn't expect Muslims to be favourable to America. I don't agree with anyone feeling happy at the plights of the Americans but your argument here is flawed brother. You are suffering from an inferiority complex it seems where you can give Americans a pass to say what they like online but take exception to some randomer Muslim on YouTube saying something.

When you compare Gaza to LA you are rejoicing that oh look its Gods revenge, when infact its a natural disaster....

Are Americans complaining about Amreekiphobia or is it muslims complaining about Islamophobia.

Again, no one should get a free pass, whether its that actor or Muslims praising this natural disastor, the victim blame is tiresome.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

When you compare Gaza to LA you are rejoicing that oh look its Gods revenge, when infact its a natural disaster....

Are Americans complaining about Amreekiphobia or is it muslims complaining about Islamophobia.

Again, no one should get a free pass, whether its that actor or Muslims praising this natural disastor, the victim blame is tiresome.

Nah. You can make a comparison to show that look you guys are dropping billion pounds worth of weapons on kids but can't stop some fires in one of your largest cities.

If Americans aren't complaining then its really a non issue isn't it.

Nobody should get a free pass for praising disasters but you seem to be giving a free pass for people to be islamophobic. Just because one random person makes a comment then it doesn't mean that more bigotry should be tolerated. People should be clever enough ( on both sides) to not collectively blame a whole group of people.

You seem to ( rightly) be saying that not all Americans should be criticised but then seem to ( wrongly) claim all Muslims should expect and deserve criticism in return.

 

[topspin]

Should give him benefit of the doubt, I doubt he is trying to get approval on PP there isn't any Americans here and he is a staunch anti Indian so won't want approval from them.

He is right in a sense these random Muslims should behave better but he is drawing a flawed conclusion.
You and I are from a western country but from a Pakistani POV it must get tiresome seeing religious hypocrisy and religion being used daily in Pakistan. I think he is coming from this perspective more than anything else.
Sadly many Muslims have been programmed over time to victim blame themselves.

I completely agree with your last line, as I've seen it myself in the UK.

However, Muslims celebrating this tragedy is something you would have to pursue to find it and certainly doesn't warrant nonsense like "no wonder why Islamophobia exists".

I think the response below is rather telling:

I searched this on Facebook, and all I found were posts of people asking Muslims not to celebrate. I haven’t come across a single post or video showing Muslims jumping up and down, dancing, or celebrating.

From your experience, have you seen anyone celebrate or express any form happiness over this tragedy?

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Some of the posters in this thread have already exposed themselves to prove OP right.

You and your associates calling in anyone is a case of " Pot calling the kettle black"

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I completely agree with your last line, as I've seen it myself in the UK.

However, Muslims celebrating this tragedy is something you would have to pursue to find it and certainly doesn't warrant nonsense like "no wonder why Islamophobia exists".

I think the response below is rather telling:


From your experience, have you seen anyone celebrate or express any form happiness over this tragedy?

No I haven't seen this. Most people are sad to see the loss of human life and many are stunned and sad that a country like America can't protect it's biggest cities.

 

[Rana]

Everyone of you knows about the wildfire that has spread through out areas of LA where massive number of homes have burned down to ashes. Interestingly, Muslims on social media were celebrating this and many people were saying Alhamdulillah and MashAllah to what has taken place.

Alot of these comments were because of USA's stance on the Israel-Palestine issue.

Muslims have whined about Islamophobia existing against them, and i have said this many times that if Islamophobia does exists, its exists due to the actions of the Muslims themselves. The aftermath of this event in LA is not gonna look good, especially when it comes to relations with Muslims in future in multicultural societies.

Plz dont merge this thread, its a separate one as it discusses how muslims have reacted to this event

I get what you are preaching is correct but then why are you spreading hate against individuals and India all the time?

Looks a bit hypocritical don’t you think?

 

[Major]

I get what you are preaching is correct but then why are you spreading hate against individuals and India all the time?

Looks a bit hypocritical don’t you think?

Where im spreading hate against individuals?

As for Indian posters, there was only only one indian poster called Indian Fan or something like that came in and poster unbiased opinions.

99% of the Indian posters here decide on other forums to make accs here just to troll and they have made weird names for Pakistan, and i target the one thing that they love the most, which is their nationalism.

If an Indian poster is ready to have a proper discussion with an open mind im all ears.

 

[topspin]

I get what you are preaching is correct but then why are you spreading hate against individuals and India all the time?

Looks a bit hypocritical don’t you think?

I certainly think that's part of the issue here. His track record is one of the reasons why this thread raises suspicion.

 

[Rana]

Where im spreading hate against individuals?

As for Indian posters, there was only only one indian poster called Indian Fan or something like that came in and poster unbiased opinions.

99% of the Indian posters here decide on other forums to make accs here just to troll and they have made weird names for Pakistan, and i target the one thing that they love the most, which is their nationalism.

If an Indian poster is ready to have a proper discussion with an open mind im all ears.

I’ve seen you and a couple of others here long enough. I and you know very well that I do not have to remind you about the individuals (cricketers of Pakistan and India) who you have ran campaigns against. The Indian posters here know your agenda fairly well, and they also know that your agendas are usually shut down by sensible Pakistan posters first before the Indians actually get to you.

Walking on the path of preaching goodness is a very thin line. People will always view it as hypocrisy if they know you do not practice what you preach.

 

[Major]

I’ve seen you and a couple of others here long enough. I and you know very well that I do not have to remind you about the individuals (cricketers of Pakistan and India) who you have ran campaigns against. The Indian posters here know your agenda fairly well, and they also know that your agendas are usually shut down by sensible Pakistan posters first before the Indians actually get to you.

Walking on the path of preaching goodness is a very thin line. People will always view it as hypocrisy if they know you do not practice what you preach.

you are comparing criticism on a cricketer to a man celebrating a natural disaster?

 

[Rana]

you are comparing criticism on a cricketer to a man celebrating a natural disaster?

I’m calling a spade a spade

You are telling people to be good, yet you have ran toxic agendas yourself. People like us should just let people be. Let them say what they want. We don’t look right telling others to do the right thing.

 

[Rana]

Yup a failed career, and I am glad it was a failed one.

Bizarre.