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Geordie Ahmed said:
If Man U get Baleba I can see them getting top 4/5

With 1 game each week they'll be able to go full tilt in the Premier League with no distractions
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Baleba this window will be very difficult. Brighton chair is not easy to negotiate with. He will not budget at all.

Unless we fork out 100million, it's highly unlikely we will get him this window.
 
We've not given up hope to sign Baleba this window, if possible.

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Looks like Donnarumma has rejected United for City. Sanity has prevailed.

As I said before, he must have had a knock to his head if he was contemplating moving to United at this stage of his career.
 
Utd dominated, Amorim outclassed Arteta big time and of course deserved something out of the match.

What happened to Gyokeres? Was he injured taken off after 60mins?
 
@KingKhanWC

Looks like United have a new name since last night - “They were the better side” FC.

Shooting blanks doesn’t make you the better side. The goal (pun intended) is to get the ball behind the line which they weren’t good enough to do so.

Gyokeres had a quiet game, but all strikers have such games frequently. He will have such games in the future as well.

Halaand probably has 10 such games every season, but he scores goals in clusters.

This is what Gyokeres will do for Arsenal as well. He will have some quiet games but he will score a lot of braces and hat-tricks as well. This is the cutting edge that Arsenal were missing.

A striker who might not do much all game but one chance and it’s a goal. Havertz and others need 3-4 chances to fall their way before they find the back of the net.

Gyokeres is going to score a truckload of goals and fire Arsenal to the Premier League trophy. He is the missing link; the final piece of the puzzle.
 
Mamoon said:
@KingKhanWC

Looks like United have a new name since last night - “They were the better side” FC.

Shooting blanks doesn’t make you the better side. The goal (pun intended) is to get the ball behind the line which they weren’t good enough to do so.

Gyokeres had a quiet game, but all strikers have such games frequently. He will have such games in the future as well.

Halaand probably has 10 such games every season, but he scores goals in clusters.

This is what Gyokeres will do for Arsenal as well. He will have some quiet games but he will score a lot of braces and hat-tricks as well. This is the cutting edge that Arsenal were missing.

A striker who might not do much all game but one chance and it’s a goal. Havertz and others need 3-4 chances to fall their way before they find the back of the net.

Gyokeres is going to score a truckload of goals and fire Arsenal to the Premier League trophy. He is the missing link; the final piece of the puzzle.
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It’s sport esp football , the better can lose by 1 goal . Arsenal don’t care it’s 3 points but play like this no chance of even top 4.

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This was below poor for a 70m striker .
 
KingKhanWC said:
It’s sport esp football , the better can lose by 1 goal . Arsenal don’t care it’s 3 points but play like this no chance of even top 4.

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This was below poor for a 70m striker .
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You can start a petition to allocate the three points to They Were The Better Side FC.

Looks like some people are deeply hurt to see Arsenal take all three points in on opening day away from home at the Leaky Cauldron while keeping a clean sheet as well.

These are the type of results and wins that makes you champion. The fact that you are using it as evidence to make your point that Arsenal won’t make top 4 is comical.

Arsenal showed tremendous resilience and mental yesterday. First game of the season away from home that too at the Leaky Cauldron is never easy. Most teams would have dropped points yesterday but not Arsenal.

As far as below poor showing for a £70m striker is concerned, you don’t need to look further than a certain £80m Uruguayan who scored 25 PL goals in three seasons, a tally that Gyokeres is likely to beat in one season.

But getting overexcited after 1 match is normal for Liverpool. I remember Liverpool fans doing bhangra after the 2022 Community Shield final where Haaland made his City debut and dropped a stinker while Nunez scored. A lot of Liverpool fans thought they had signed the better striker.
:klopp

You seem in too much of a rush to just Gyokeres. I would advise waiting until the end of season not MW1, but looks like you have no problem eating your words.
 
Mamoon said:
You can start a petition to allocate the three points to They Were The Better Side FC.

Looks like some people are deeply hurt to see Arsenal take all three points in on opening day away from home at the Leaky Cauldron while keeping a clean sheet as well.

These are the type of results and wins that makes you champion. The fact that you are using it as evidence to make your point that Arsenal won’t make top 4 is comical.

Arsenal showed tremendous resilience and mental yesterday. First game of the season away from home that too at the Leaky Cauldron is never easy. Most teams would have dropped points yesterday but not Arsenal.

As far as below poor showing for a £70m striker is concerned, you don’t need to look further than a certain £80m Uruguayan who scored 25 PL goals in three seasons, a tally that Gyokeres is likely to beat in one season.

But getting overexcited after 1 match is normal for Liverpool. I remember Liverpool fans doing bhangra after the 2022 Community Shield final where Haaland made his City debut and dropped a stinker while Nunez scored. A lot of Liverpool fans thought they had signed the better striker.
:klopp

You seem in too much of a rush to just Gyokeres. I would advise waiting until the end of season not MW1, but looks like you have no problem eating your words.
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Im commenting on the sport and match, it seems you're upset even with 3 points which is undestandable as many Arsenal fans are rightly concerned if they play like this top 4 will be a struggle.

You need accept others opionins on football, this isnt even the Arsenal thread, I was discussing Utds home game.

A long way to go for both Arsenal and Gyokeres but to suggest this man who played for Coventry will get 30 goals by Jan is foolishness but do keep these predictions coming.
 
Another defeat for Amorin. Yes, we played better, but is that how far standards have dropped for Man United, where we are getting praised for playing well despite losing? Yes, we should have won the game or at least drawn the game, but we have two incompetent goalkeepers. We deserve to lose for not signing a goalkeeper when that should have been the first signing of the summer.

I am giving Amorin until the end of September. If we don't pick up some wins, I will be done with him, and I suspect Jim Ratcliffe won't hesitate to sack him either, if these results carry on.
 
The_KING said:
Another defeat for Amorin. Yes, we played better, but is that how far standards have dropped for Man United, where we are getting praised for playing well despite losing? Yes, we should have won the game or at least drawn the game, but we have two incompetent goalkeepers. We deserve to lose for not signing a goalkeeper when that should have been the first signing of the summer.

I am giving Amorin until the end of September. If we don't pick up some wins, I will be done with him, and I suspect Jim Ratcliffe won't hesitate to sack him either, if these results carry on.
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Yeah we can’t seem to buy a win at all, he’s identified a need for robust, physical attackers but neglected the midfield where physicality is needed the most. He has shown a penchant for learning as he goes, he needs another transfer window in my opinion. At least the players bought recently can be used in the future if the manager isn’t there.
 
Better team FC or quiet FC? One result, albeit being against old rivals at home, should not make fans feel so down. Seems like Arteta burst the positivity bubble around the club.

For most Man Utd fans it’s back to ‘not following football these days’
 
I think Amorim was literally the worst manager in the league last season. I don’t think anyone else underperformed with the standard of their squad as much as Amorim. Even spurs it was down to injuries. His tactics were absolutely clueless. Especially Europa league final which he cost his club champions league.

However United looked good last game. I personally can’t understand why a good manger is incapable of adapting to an imperfect squad. You don’t need to do miracles but surely a good manager should do better than that.

However maybe it’s the case as long as he has his players he’s fine. Maybe he needed the pre season to adapt. Who knows.

I will say it’s impressive he seems to be implementing his tactics first game of season. Ten Haag spent hundreds of millions and couldn’t do it. And if Amorim continues like this United will do well this season.
 
ads101 said:
I think Amorim was literally the worst manager in the league last season. I don’t think anyone else underperformed with the standard of their squad as much as Amorim. Even spurs it was down to injuries. His tactics were absolutely clueless. Especially Europa league final which he cost his club champions league.

However United looked good last game. I personally can’t understand why a good manger is incapable of adapting to an imperfect squad. You don’t need to do miracles but surely a good manager should do better than that.

However maybe it’s the case as long as he has his players he’s fine. Maybe he needed the pre season to adapt. Who knows.

I will say it’s impressive he seems to be implementing his tactics first game of season. Ten Haag spent hundreds of millions and couldn’t do it. And if Amorim continues like this United will do well this season.
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As an Arsenal fan I really hope I'm wrong, and of course it's still too early to judge, but Gyokeres was scoring goals for fun at Sporting and who was the manager of that club?
 
IMMY69 said:
As an Arsenal fan I really hope I'm wrong, and of course it's still too early to judge, but Gyokeres was scoring goals for fun at Sporting and who was the manager of that club?
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Completely different standard, though. Premier League is a league like no other.
 
Replacing De Gea with Onana has to be one of the biggest downgrades in football. We wanted a keeper who can play with his feet, but in doing so, we replaced a great shot stopper with someone who can't make a save. And Bayindir isn't any better than Onana either.

Ten Hag has blood on his hands for making some of the worst signings in the history of the Premier League. :mad:
 
The_KING said:
Replacing De Gea with Onana has to be one of the biggest downgrades in football. We wanted a keeper who can play with his feet, but in doing so, we replaced a great shot stopper with someone who can't make a save. And Bayindir isn't any better than Onana either.

Ten Hag has blood on his hands for making some of the worst signings in the history of the Premier League. :mad:
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Ten hag with his pathetic signings has made sure his actions Put UTD back for atleast another 5 years.

Hojlund 72 million
Anthony 85 million
Casimero 70 million
Mount 65 million
Onana 50 million
 
Obaidd said:
Better team FC or quiet FC? One result, albeit being against old rivals at home, should not make fans feel so down. Seems like Arteta burst the positivity bubble around the club.

For most Man Utd fans it’s back to ‘not following football these days’
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Not at all
 
IMMY69 said:
As an Arsenal fan I really hope I'm wrong, and of course it's still too early to judge, but Gyokeres was scoring goals for fun at Sporting and who was the manager of that club?
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I wouldn’t take a Portuguese manager only because of that reason the league is weaker . I think man united have taken a risk with Amorim. Same with ten hag. Really logically they need a proven manager in a strong league. Players is less of a problem, only when you spend a lot on a player (like Gyokores or Nunez etc).

Realistically there wasn’t many options for a striker though. It’s too poor. Even Sesko is probably a project. Gyokores is still one of the best targets. I’d prefer getting a proven maybe cheaper mid table striker on the bench first to come in when required or if Gyokores fails like Watkins or something. But then that’s expensive too, and not sure he’d be willing to play second fiddle. And of course Jesus and Havertz are already at the club on high wages which makes it difficult to get a proper backup striker.

I also think a player is usually less risk. Players are usually discounted because they are from a weaker league. Gyokores if he was doing it in the premier league would be twice as much. Manager it’s different. The salary is rather insignificant compared the hundreds of millions in transfer budget and time you give him. Ten Haag left lasting damage to the squad due to his poor decisions and down hundreds of millions.

There’s only three strikers right now who I think could come in a definitely perform at a top club in premier league with a proven record. Kane, Isak and Haaland. Maybe Mbappe but you could argue what position he’d excel at. Even when Haaland was at Germany it was obvious he’d do well in premier league. I think everyone else you have to take a bit of risk taking on board and have something to prove.
 
We desperately need to sign a midfielder. We can't rely on Casemiro and Ugarte in midfield.

We aren't getting Baleba this summer, but we have to try to sign Wharton from Crystal Palace. It will be a long season if we don't sign a midfielder.
 
We must pick up three points.
The_KING said:
We desperately need to sign a midfielder. We can't rely on Casemiro and Ugarte in midfield.

We aren't getting Baleba this summer, but we have to try to sign Wharton from Crystal Palace. It will be a long season if we don't sign a midfielder.
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If we don't sign Wharton then Mainoo should be in the xi.
 
Man City defender Dias signs deal to 2029

Manchester City defender Ruben Dias has signed a two-year contract extension.

The 28-year-old's previous deal had been set to expire in 2027 but his new deal will take him to 2029, with the option of a further 12 months.

The Portugal international joined City from Benfica for a fee of £65m in 2020 and was named Premier League player of the year at the end of his first season.

The defender has helped City to four league titles, the Champions League, the EFL Cup and the FA Cup during his five years at Etihad Stadium.

"I am incredibly happy today," said Dias.

"I love Manchester - it is my home now - and I love the Manchester City fans.

"When I think about the trophies we have won and the way we have played our football during my time here, I couldn't imagine playing anywhere else."

Hugo Viana, City's director of football, said Dias is "a leader in the dressing room and on the pitch".

The club are likely to switch their attention to the futures of John Stones and Bernardo Silva in the coming months as both have one year left on their deals, while Ilkay Gundogan and Ederson both have less than 12 months remaining on their contracts.

Spanish midfielder Rodri, England playmaker Phil Foden, Swiss defender Manuel Akanji and Dutch centre-back Nathan Ake all have two years to run on their deals.

Defender Rico Lewis is close to signing a new five-year deal.

BBC
 
The_KING said:
We desperately need to sign a midfielder. We can't rely on Casemiro and Ugarte in midfield.

We aren't getting Baleba this summer, but we have to try to sign Wharton from Crystal Palace. It will be a long season if we don't sign a midfielder.
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Baleba is totally on a different level to Wharton. We can't make the same mistakes. And panic buy.

Whilst I agree, Wharton is decent. But he definitely at the moment is not a player we should be investing in if our number one Target is out of reach at the moment.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Baleba is totally on a different level to Wharton. We can't make the same mistakes. And panic buy.

Whilst I agree, Wharton is decent. But he definitely at the moment is not a player we should be investing in if our number one Target is out of reach at the moment.
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I think Wharton is more than decent. Yes, Baleba is better, but we should sign Wharton this summer and try to sign Baleba next summer. A midfield pairing of Wharton and Baleba has the potential to be one of the best in world football.
 
The_KING said:
Bruno doesn't know positional play either, and he plays every single match.
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He plays as a double pivot with Casemiro or Casemiro who have been playing that role before which then allows Bruno to do what he normally does !.
 
Amad in for Dalot today which is good.

Bayindir still in goal is not a good sign.
 
Either play Bruno as a number 10, or don’t play him at all. I am sick of this stat padder playing 90 minutes of every game, when he is usually stinking the place out. Sick and tired of every manager treating this guy like he is the second coming of Cantona. Every player is droppable except for Bruno Fernandes and it really does **** me off.
 
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They were awful. Back to terrible. And Yoro’s goal was a foul. Fulham were actually robbed. Bruno absolutely dreadful. They were actually good last game, what was this.

Amorim’s subtitutions are also terrible. You’d think he’d have learnt from Europa league where he cost united the cup. I know every team complains about a managers poor substitutions. But Amorim’s another level lol, insanely stubborn.
 
The_KING said:
Either play Bruno as a number 10, or don’t play him at all. I am sick of this stat padder playing 90 minutes of every game, when he is usually stinking the place out. Sick and tired of every manager treating this guy like he is the second coming of Cantona. Every player is droppable except for Bruno Fernandes and it really does **** me off.
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Hit the nail on the Head. Amorim has to show some xxlls. It's as if Bruno runs the show.

Stank the place out, and i agree. If he's not playing in the 10, bench him!
 
I feel like with the players we have got now, a 4-3-3 would suit us much better with Cunha, Sesko and Mbeumo up top together and Bruno as the advanced midfielder of the 3 supported by Mainoo and Casemiro/Ugarte/New CM behind him.
 
Ice Man said:
I feel like with the players we have got now, a 4-3-3 would suit us much better with Cunha, Sesko and Mbeumo up top together and Bruno as the advanced midfielder of the 3 supported by Mainoo and Casemiro/Ugarte/New CM behind him.
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Amorim has shown zero inclination to playing anything other than his 3-4-2-1

Whilst it's possible to have success and do well by having a stock formation I do think in this day and age it's a bit of a red flag for a coach to be so rigid and not shift from the one formation, especially in the Premier League where teams pose a variety of challenges

I think the best coaches are those that do mix it up, maybe not every week but adjusting things based on your opposition is the smart play

Also, I know they have enquired about a midfielder and it's one they will maybe get in the next window but for me the formation he plays the CM is absolutely crucial, it has to be the priority, when you play 3 in midfield you can get away with having some less dynamic players but not when you only have 2, moreso if Bruno is one of those
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
Amorim has shown zero inclination to playing anything other than his 3-4-2-1

Whilst it's possible to have success and do well by having a stock formation I do think in this day and age it's a bit of a red flag for a coach to be so rigid and not shift from the one formation, especially in the Premier League where teams pose a variety of challenges

I think the best coaches are those that do mix it up, maybe not every week but adjusting things based on your opposition is the smart play

Also, I know they have enquired about a midfielder and it's one they will maybe get in the next window but for me the formation he plays the CM is absolutely crucial, it has to be the priority, when you play 3 in midfield you can get away with having some less dynamic players but not when you only have 2, moreso if Bruno is one of those
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It's actually quite alarming how coaches and players are openly mentioning that overloading in the midfield against our midfield 2 is the key to success, yet, nothing is changing tactics wise.
 
Another kidney touching performance by We Were The Better Side FC.

You have 1 point on the table but you are already on top when it comes to the moral victory table.
 
Mamoon said:
Another kidney touching performance by We Were The Better Side FC.

You have 1 point on the table but you are already on top when it comes to the moral victory table.
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Early days yet. Could have easily won both Games to be honest.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Early days yet. Could have easily won both Games to be honest.
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You need a clinical finisher. All your new attackers look good but they are wasteful and need 3-4 chances before they can find the back of the net, and you don’t have the midfield or the wingers to create that many chances.

The current formation isn’t working either and Ruben is already on sack watch because he needs to finish in the top 4 this season after the amount of money he has spent.
 
Since ten hag came in, the amount of goals scored by united has been awful. Even when they finished 3rd, they scored no goals and frankly I think they were lucky to get 3rd, they vastly outperformed their xg. They’ve finished on around zero/low/neg goal difference.

For all the complaints about Ole at least they scored goals.

While Amorim is to blame for the finishing 15th and not scoring goals, ten hag started the downfall into not scoring enough. Then add on the poor players purchased wasting money and ruining the squad.
 
shamaan said:
Needs to go back to 4-2-3-1
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He's made it clear he's not doing that, he's been so stubborn about it he now has to stick with it and it could end up being the thing that costs him his job

Quite similar to Ange who played his ridiculous high line, even when his fast defenders were injured he played it, even when they went down to 9 men he played it and that poor league finish is what cost him his job

I do agree a 4-2-3-1 with the current lot could work

Lammens/Onana
Mazraoui - Yoro - De Ligt - Dorgu
Ugarte - Casemiro
Mbeumo - Bruno - Cunha
Sesko

Until he gets a dynamic CM that's the formation he should go with
 
The 4-2-3-1/4-3-3 instantly solves some of our biggest problems atm. Fitting in Bruno in his best position and not getting overloaded in the midfield by the opposition.
 
Mamoon said:
You need a clinical finisher. All your new attackers look good but they are wasteful and need 3-4 chances before they can find the back of the net, and you don’t have the midfield or the wingers to create that many chances.

The current formation isn’t working either and Ruben is already on sack watch because he needs to finish in the top 4 this season after the amount of money he has spent.
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The issue is CM. Initial 20-30 minutes we can maintain control. Once they get leggy, it's like a pack of cards. It all comes down.

We desperately need mobile CM's and a reliable GK
 
No offence but seems like Utd fans are looking for the next scapegoat.

It’s not Bruno’s fault that he can’t play deeper. Utd should have recruited accordingly or pick the right xi now.

Calling Bruno ‘the issue’ or ‘egoist’ is excessive. From the outside I have seen utd fans previously turn on Ten Hag, Rashford, Maguire and..

even Ronaldo

:facepalm


I have previously shared in the Arsenal thread the timeline of how utd set up Amorim for a tough ride and I will share that here too in a bit.
 
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