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A mob in Punjab's Khanewal district tortured and killed a man accused of burning pages of the Holy Quran.

As per details, the local police, in order to prevent themselves, allegedly allowed the accused to leave the police station in Mian Chunnu where the mob was present.

The victim was dragged to a nearby place, tortured and killed whereas the police allegedly played the role of silent spectator.

Read more: Charsadda police station set on fire

Taking notice of the incident, IG Punjab Rao Sardar Ali Khan sought a report from Additional IG South Punjab over the incident.

He also directed RPO Multan to conduct a thorough inquiry in this regard and ordered DPO Khanewal to reach the affected location as soon as possible.

The IG Punjab said that those behind the tragic incident would be brought to justice.

This is not the first incident of citizens becoming judges, jury and executioners. In November last year, a mob had vandalised a police station in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa’s Charsadda district and set it on fire after authorities refused to hand over a man arrested earlier for allegedly desecrating the Holy Quran.

They also set ablaze a police check post on Harichand Road and blocked the road for traffic. According to Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa Law Minister Fazal Shakoor, local police had shifted a suspect to Mandani police station in Charsadda after apprehending him for allegedly desecrating the Quran.

Later, a mob reached the police station and demanded of the officials to hand them over the blasphemy suspect in custody.

Upon refusal by the police to entertain their demands, more people began joining the mob which increased agitation and as a result, the police station was attacked.

Minister Shakoor said that the scores of attackers also vandalised the vehicles parked in the police station. Sources familiar with the matter said the blasphemy suspect was shifted to a safer location.

“The suspect who has been arrested will be proceeded against in accordance with the law,” he said.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2343217/mob-kills-man-accused-of-desecrating-holy-quran-in-khanewal
 
I dont ever think we are going to be able to get out of this blasphemy mess.
 
Despicable hopefully all these jahils are arrested and the key is thrown away
 
Mob shouldn't take matter into their own hands. There should be a fair trial.

Yes, that is the issue.

There is law is a place, then these matters should be judged by the judge, extrajudicial killing should be stopped with an iron hand. Mobs cannot come out and be allowed to killed people on allegations.
 
Religion. The gift that keeps on giving

That is a broad brush you are using here. It is one specific religion that is engaging in this behaviour and that is what should be called out, otherwise you are being dishonest.
 
As per details, the local police, in order to prevent themselves, allegedly allowed the accused to leave the police station in Mian Chunnu where the mob was present.

The victim was dragged to a nearby place, tortured and killed whereas the police allegedly played the role of silent spectator.

This isn’t good.
 
I dont ever think we are going to be able to get out of this blasphemy mess.

There is a way, you need to put a clause of repentance there, a person who repents should be allowed to do so instead of killing the person. But Pakistan is a weird country where even someone criticizing a companion is considered a blaspheme. Which has NO Basis in Quran or hadeeth.
 
That is a broad brush you are using here. It is one specific religion that is engaging in this behaviour and that is what should be called out, otherwise you are being dishonest.

Its Not whole religion , it is a specific country , also in that specific uneducated brainwashed people
 
That is a broad brush you are using here. It is one specific religion that is engaging in this behaviour and that is what should be called out, otherwise you are being dishonest.

Islam is going through it's darkest hour, but it's certainly not the only one guilty of promoting such bigotry and violence whether it's now or in times gone by. They're all the same anyway, just different shades of hate.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We have zero tolerance for anyone taking the law into their own hands & mob lynchings will be dealt with full severity of the law. Have asked Punjab IG for report on action taken against perpetrators of the lynching in MIan Channu & against the police who failed in their duty.</p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1492753832920576001?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Another day, another mob lynching. I remember Imran Khan said they will bring in legislation to prevent any more blasphemy-killings in the aftermath of the Sialkot incident. I am 100% sure nobody from the current political set-up is willing to take on extremists and the mass radicalisation of Pakistani society because all of them fear for their lives. PPP, PTI or PML-N, they are not serious about preventing blasphemy-related violence because they do not want their leaders to end up like Salman Taseer. There is no will at all!

I am sure, in 2050, we would still be hearing of such despicable acts.
 
That is a broad brush you are using here. It is one specific religion that is engaging in this behaviour and that is what should be called out, otherwise you are being dishonest.

I don't think mob law is advocated by that religion, it is more a subcontinent cultural mess. In fact many of western law practices could be said to have derived due process of law from Shariah.

Good to see Imran Khan calling out the perpetrators and the police who allegedly stood by.
 
Its Not whole religion , it is a specific country , also in that specific uneducated brainwashed people

You must be talking about those illiterate Hindus who kill Muslims over a bit of cow meat!
 
This is not islam

Our rasoullah saw was rehmatul alimeen , mercy on mankind

How you can do this to another human being , Islam gives chance for forgiveness and redemption .

This poor guy was probably some street drug user , probably saw some papers lying around and rubbish on street and lit a fire , u see a lot charsi bhangees do this around the world burning rubbish etc.
 
This is not islam

Our rasoullah saw was rehmatul alimeen , mercy on mankind

How you can do this to another human being , Islam gives chance for forgiveness and redemption .

This poor guy was probably some street drug user , probably saw some papers lying around and rubbish on street and lit a fire , u see a lot charsi bhangees do this around the world burning rubbish etc.

Totally agree. Too many think this is the easy road to Jannat. Terrible
 
I have no words.

This blasphemy law has been nothing but a curse for Pakistan.

It’s a law to protect the majority over the minority when Pakistan should have laws the other way round.
 
There is no law that allows people to be the judge, jury and executioner. One can not understand what exactly is seen as blasphemy in Pakistan. There can be no greater sin then killing people like that in the name of Islam. Ask yourself what the Holy Prophet(saw) would say about such a situation and to those who kill people in the name of defending Islam.
 
Scandalous, what a horrid country and people. I have no words either.

What a way to keep projecting an image of Pakistan to the world! Especially when we've welcomed overseas players to the PSL and about to welcome the Oz team for first time in a generation?
 
Police say more than 80 people have been arrested in connection with the killing on Saturday in the district of Khanewal in Punjab province.

Reports said the man was in police custody before a crowd snatched him.

His body was handed over to his family and a funeral held on Sunday.

Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan said the case would be "dealt with the full severity of the law" and asked for a report on police officers accused of failing their duty to save the man.

His government, he said, had "zero tolerance for anyone taking the law into their own hands".

Police official Munawar Hussain said officers arrived to find the man, reportedly in his 40s, unconscious and tied to a tree. Khanewal is located 275km (170 miles) south-west of Lahore.

"The villagers armed with batons, axes and iron rods killed him and hanged his body from a tree," Mr Hussain told Reuters news agency.

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People need to be jailed, laws have to be changed and compulsory state run education needs to expand into every village in Pakistan. Then and only then will things progress
 
It’s a black law. I don’t see any way out of this mess. People who get arrested or even get death sentence for this act are considered heroes and think they will go to jannah
 
People need to be jailed, laws have to be changed and compulsory state run education needs to expand into every village in Pakistan. Then and only then will things progress

By Islamic principles, what is the punishment for such acts (burning pages)?
 
Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) Chairman Bilawal Bhutto Zardari on Sunday said that angry mobs across the country cannot be left unchecked.

Addressing the unfortunate incident of Khanewal, the PPP leader said that such incidents are a threat to the morals of the whole society. Bilawal said that the incident that took place in Mian Channu’s area of Tulamba is shameful for the whole country.

“The government must ensure that strict action is taken against those who are found guilty in the incident.” Bilawal went on to say that the unfortunate incident that took place at a public space has deteriorated national image before whole world. “Those who break laws should not be allowed to live openly.”

He added that in order to resolve the matter, both the parties will have to come on the same page. “If the implementation of law and order will not be ensured then the people will take it in their own hands.”

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2343369/angry-mobs-cannot-be-left-unchecked
 
LAHORE: A day after the lynching of a ‘mentally ill’ man in a Khanewal village, Prime Minister Imran Khan directed the authorities to adopt ‘zero tolerance’ against the vigilantes and to take action against officials ‘who failed in their duty’, with the result that 85 suspects were detained in more than 120 raids till Sunday evening.

A similar incident was reported from Faisalabad during the day. However, police managed to save the life of the suspect held by an unruly mob.

The Khanewal tragedy, which came as a grim reminder of the Sialkot lynching, drew condemnation from the government as well as opposition parties that believed the gruesome incident humiliated the entire nation.

Special Representative of the Prime Minister on Religious Harmony Allama Tahir Ashrafi rushed to Khanewal where he addressed a presser to publicly condemn the incident, while local police on Sunday afternoon claimed to have registered another FIR for alleged blasphemy under Section 295-B of Pakistan Penal Code besides the one related to the lynching under Sections 302, 353, 186, 148, 149 of the PPC and Section 7A of Anti-Terrorism Act, 1997.

Talking to Dawn after the funeral and burial in Mian Channu, the elder brother of the deceased said he had been mentally ill for 17 to 18 years and living with another brother in Karachi until last month when he returned to the village. He had remained hospitalised for years but could not recover, he said, adding that his wife had got divorce over the same issue though they had two sons and a daughter to look after.

“Last day he went to buy some cigarettes and did not turn up till evening and they later learned that he was killed on blasphemy charges,” he said, claiming that area residents knew about his mental condition. He said the mob had stoned his brother to death in the presence of police, yet no efforts had been made to protect him. He also complained that his brother’s fingers were missing after the ghastly incident.

Mohammad Ramzan, the complainant in the blasphemy case that police claimed had been registered a day ago, said two men, Azhar Abbas and Mukhtiar Hussain, rushed to Shah Muqeem mosque on seeing smoke emitting from there and found an unidentified person setting fire to the Holy Quran. He said people started gathering there and demanded action against him. The Tulamba police said a caller from Jungle Derawala on told them on Saturday evening that they had caught a man who had torn some pages of Holy Quran in a mosque. A police team rushed to the spot and took the suspect into custody. However, hundreds of people who had gathered there managed to get hold of the suspect and started hurling stones and bricks at him. The mob later tied the man with a tree and stoned him to death. By the time the heavy police contingent reached, the suspect had died. They shifted his body to hospital for a post-mortem examination. The body was later handed over to the family for burial.

While taking notice of the incident, Prime Minister Khan sought a report from the Punjab police chief and directed the relevant authorities to adopt zero tolerance against those involved in taking law into their hands and the police officials who failed in their duty.

However, no action was taken against any official of the Tulamba police station.

The incident was “condemnable and should not go unpunished”, said Minister for Human Rights Shireen Mazari. “Punjab government must immediately take action against the police that watched it happen and the perpetrators. Laws exist — the police must enforce these laws and not allow mobs to rule the day,” she tweeted.

A preliminary report of the incident submitted by Inspector General of Police Rao Sardar Ali Khan to Punjab Chief Minis*ter Usman Buzdar on Sunday said a case was registered against 33 suspects and 300 unidentified persons.

The report informed CM Buzdar that the police conducted more than 120 raids at various locations and detained 85 suspects, including 15 main suspects, after their identification with the help of different video clips. Those arrested were identified as Mohammad Yaqoob, Kashif, Riaz, Saqlain, Shaan, Asif, Nadeem, Qaiser Nazir, Abdul Ghani, Aslam, Aamir, Ijaz, Mehboobur Rehman, Bilal and Ali Sher, while more raids were under way. It said forensic analysis of the footage would help in determining the role of the culprits.

Soon after his arrival at Khanewal Circuit House, the PM’s special representative, Allama Ashrafi, told a presser that no one should think about taking law into his hand. “Our forefathers had played their role in devising the constitution of the country,” he said, asserting that there were laws for protection of religion and against blasphemy. He said such matters should be reported to police and legal procedure be followed.

While strongly condemning the incident, the PM’s special representative appealed to Chief Justice of Pakistan Umer Ata Bandial to conduct speedy trial of all religious and blasphemy cases. He said there was consensus that strict action must be taken against those involved in the murder of the mentally ill person. Efforts were being made to arrest the suspects and action would also be taken against the policemen for negligence, he added.

He told the media that all the ulema accompanying him would visit the aggrieved family for expressing condolence. He said the entire world was pointing fingers at Pakistan owing to such incidents, which did not happen in rest of the 56 Muslim countries. It was the responsibility of religious leaders, the media and the administration to speak with one voice against such incidents, just as they had done after the lunching of Sri Lankan national in Sialkot.

“The tragedy of Mian Channu has once again humiliated the entire nation,” said Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) Chairman Bilawal Bhutto Zardari while condemning the lynching. Events like the Mian Channu incident after the Sialkot tragedy were a question mark on the government’s writ and a moment of reflection, he said.

The PPP chairman demanded the government conduct a transparent investigation into this tragedy and those responsible be punished. He said Pakistan’s image in the international community was being damaged due to these massacres by mobs at public places. He said if angry mobs were left unchecked, the whole society would become insecure.

All the stakeholders must come together on one page to stop the menace, he said, adding that if the rule of law was not ensured, an unstoppable tradition of taking the law into one’s own hands would be set.

Former premier and Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz leader Shahid Khaqan Abbasi, too, condemned the killing and said the growing number of such incidents was not just shameful, but also worrying and disturbing. There was a dire need to formulate a comprehensive strategy to prevent such incidents, he said.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1674959/8...ly-ill-man-in-khanewal-as-two-firs-registered
 
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To be honest PM cannot do much , the scholars who are promoting such acts should be arrested, and punished. They will never go and kill , they use the emotions of people.
 
Despite the link to a religious book being defaced in this case, there is no religion which permits or looks the other way on acts of violence such as this. This murderous mob behaviour is not an issue of religion, it is one of culture.
 
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Despite the link to a religious book being defaced in this case, there is no religion which permits or looks the other way on acts of violence such as this. This murderous mob behaviour is not an issue of religion, it is one of culture.

Its nice to see a Non-Muslim, Non-Pakistani or Non-Indian to understand this.

Mob mentality is an Asian thing, India, Bangladesh or Pakistan all have this issue.

The religion actually states to BURN the Quran if no longer needed. It also tells the story of the Prophet(pbuh) sending written verses of the Quran to numerous leaders around the world. He knew many would burn or destroy those writings. The Quran isnt actually a book at all. The state should have a prime time religious show on free tv to explain this to the ignorant.
 
Another day, another mob lynching. I remember Imran Khan said they will bring in legislation to prevent any more blasphemy-killings in the aftermath of the Sialkot incident. I am 100% sure nobody from the current political set-up is willing to take on extremists and the mass radicalisation of Pakistani society because all of them fear for their lives. PPP, PTI or PML-N, they are not serious about preventing blasphemy-related violence because they do not want their leaders to end up like Salman Taseer. There is no will at all!

I am sure, in 2050, we would still be hearing of such despicable acts.

Imran Khan condemns such instances. Changes laws, calls for harsh sentences.

This is not the same as India's BJP who incite violence & hatred against minorities.

We know you hate Pakistan but to blame the government for this is idiotic at best.
 
To be honest PM cannot do much , the scholars who are promoting such acts should be arrested, and punished. They will never go and kill , they use the emotions of people.

you say PM cannot do much, well the party in power can arrest the clerics openly promoting this and not just "Catch and Release" but IMPRISON in a small jail cell. Baluchistan has ample arid land, Hire the private prison contractors from US who LOVE building prisons, have them run and operate the largest prison complex in Pakistan, full of clerics. and this place would be triggered. As soon as more than 5 protestors show up demanding release, the person in the prison they are protesting to release would be put into a dark room for 10 days. and keep on doing it until protestors stop. and No Pakistan has dealt with people much harshly before, this is actually more humane than cutting off hands or killing them

There you go, I gave you a solution to silo all these nuts out of public sphere
 
Imran Khan condemns such instances. Changes laws, calls for harsh sentences.

This is not the same as India's BJP who incite violence & hatred against minorities.

We know you hate Pakistan but to blame the government for this is idiotic at best.

What is stopping the PM from bringing in legislation to curb false blasphemy allegations and mob violence? Why are extremists allowed to freely preach hate and spread violence and anarchy? The whole country is being held hostage by religious goons but nothing is being done about it.
 
To be honest PM cannot do much , the scholars who are promoting such acts should be arrested, and punished. They will never go and kill , they use the emotions of people.

And in fear of losing vote bank, the pm or govt can't do anything about it. So condemning part is also show off and nothing to do with intention of making it right.
 
Punjab police on Tuesday arrested 10 more suspects in the Mian Channu lynching case, in which a mob tortured and killed a mentally challenged man accused of burning pages of the Holy Quran.

The suspects were arrested after investigation and identification, bringing the total number of arrests to 112.

The accused will be presented before an anti-terrorism court today.

Last week, a mob in Punjab's Khanewal district tortured and killed a man accused of desecrating the Holy Quran.

As per details, the local police, in order to prevent themselves, allegedly allowed the accused to leave the police station in Mian Chunnu where the mob was present.

The victim was dragged to a nearby place, tortured and killed, and his body hung from a tree, whereas the police allegedly played the role of silent spectators.

This is not the first incident of citizens becoming judges, jury and executioners. In November last year, a mob had vandalised a police station in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa’s Charsadda district and set it on fire after authorities refused to hand over a man arrested earlier for allegedly desecrating the Holy Quran.

They also set ablaze a police check post on Harichand Road and blocked the road for traffic.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2343573/police-arrest-10-more-in-mian-channu-lynching-case
 
The Senate on Monday expressed grave concerns over the Mian Channu mob lynching tragic incident, demanding strict action against the perpetrators.

On Saturday, a mob brutally lynched a mentally challenged man in Mian Channu city of Khanewal district over allegedly burning pages of the Holy Quran. His body was later hung from a tree whereas the police allegedly played the role of silent spectators.

During the session, Leader of the House in Senate Dr Shahzad Waseem said that all the political parties and the nation are united against such incidents.

“The government will take strict action against the perpetrators of this inhuman incident.”

Senator Irfan Siddiqui said that positive and concrete steps should be taken to control such incidents in the future.

He said that all the political parties are united on the issue, adding that such incidents had brought a bad name to the country. Senator Siddiqui suggested formation of a committee to look into such matters.
Senator Ijaz Chaudhry said that the Senate, National Assembly and all provincial assemblies should give a message of tolerance and unity.

Senator Prof Sajid Mir said, “Taking law into one’s own hands and killing any person cannot be supported at all.”

He said that all those involved in the mob lynching incident should be brought to justice as no one should be allowed to take the law into their hands.

Senator Azam Nazir Tarar said that the upper house should discuss the Mian Channu incident in detail. “Such inhuman incidents are unacceptable.”

Further, the parliamentarians condemned the incident in which a Muslim girl Muskan Khan was heckled by a Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh-backed mob for wearing Hijab in the Indian state of Karnataka last week. However, in the videos doing the rounds on social media, Muskan did not shy away and kept yelling “Allah-o-Akbar” at them in the college premises.

The leader of the house moved a motion on February 11, 2022 for debate. The House on Monday started formal discussion on it and strongly condemned the incident.

Maulana Abdul Ghafoor Haidri, Mushahid Hussain Syed, Irfan Siddiqui, Ejaz Chaudhary, Saadia Abbas, Keshoo Bai, Mir Tahir Bizenjo and Barrister Syed Ali Zafar said that extremist acts against Muslims in India are shameful which had exposed the true face of India before the world.

“Hindu extremists have made the life of Hijab-wearing students miserable in India.”

They said that Islam teaches us humanity, brotherhood and gives the lesson of peace.

The lawmakers urged the Ummah to stand “united against enemies of Islam who are targeting innocent Muslims”.

Appreciating the girl for taking a stand, they said the brave daughter faced the Hindu extremists with exemplary courage, which was being admired across the globe.

They criticised the international human rights organisations for not raising their voice against the Hindu extremists.

On the concerns of Senator Danesh Kumar that the Sindh police harassed Baloch people in Karachi, Senate Chairman Sadiq Sanjrani sought a report from the Sindh inspector general of police and chief secretary.
 
Prime Minister's Special Assistant on Interfaith Harmony Maulana Tahir Ashrafi on Tuesday said the government will deal with the accused involved in the Mian Channu lynching in the same manner as it did with suspects responsible for the Sialkot lynching.

Addressing a press conference, the cleric, who also heads the Pakistan Ulema Council (PUC), said that the prime minister, Punjab chief minister and the Punjab police chief were actively involved in the investigations.

Police have detained 112 accused, including all prime suspects, he said, adding that 10 prime accused have been identified. The police will produce the accused involved in the Mian Channu lynching case before an anti-terrorism court (ATC) today, he added.

"No one will be allowed to take the law into their hand," Ashrafi warned.

Last week, a mob in Punjab's Khanewal district tortured and killed a man accused of desecrating the Holy Quran.

As per details, the local police, in order to prevent themselves, allegedly allowed the accused to leave the police station in Mian Chunnu where the mob was present.

The victim was dragged to a nearby place, tortured and killed, and his body hung from a tree, whereas the police allegedly played the role of silent spectators.
 
Despite the link to a religious book being defaced in this case, there is no religion which permits or looks the other way on acts of violence such as this. This murderous mob behaviour is not an issue of religion, it is one of culture.

These Moulvis are playing religious card to instigate other people.
 
you say PM cannot do much, well the party in power can arrest the clerics openly promoting this and not just "Catch and Release" but IMPRISON in a small jail cell. Baluchistan has ample arid land, Hire the private prison contractors from US who LOVE building prisons, have them run and operate the largest prison complex in Pakistan, full of clerics. and this place would be triggered. As soon as more than 5 protestors show up demanding release, the person in the prison they are protesting to release would be put into a dark room for 10 days. and keep on doing it until protestors stop. and No Pakistan has dealt with people much harshly before, this is actually more humane than cutting off hands or killing them

There you go, I gave you a solution to silo all these nuts out of public sphere

Pakistan need to tackle the situation slowly, yes I do agree that such clerics need to be imprisoned.
They should be told to show the evidence that such a person should be killed from Quran and hadeeth.
There own opinion will not matter because according to Ahmed Raza Khan ( Barelvi ) , the Deobandis , salafis etc are all Murtad ( apostate ) , thus they should be killed.

Secondly, the law should be dealt by court NOT any Mob.
 
Its nice to see a Non-Muslim, Non-Pakistani or Non-Indian to understand this.

Mob mentality is an Asian thing, India, Bangladesh or Pakistan all have this issue.

The religion actually states to BURN the Quran if no longer needed. It also tells the story of the Prophet(pbuh) sending written verses of the Quran to numerous leaders around the world. He knew many would burn or destroy those writings. The Quran isnt actually a book at all. The state should have a prime time religious show on free tv to explain this to the ignorant.

Thanks.

Nobody would be able to point to any religion or religious verse that would consider mob violence or so called “justice of the crowd” to be in any way permissible.

Religions in contrast generally have a specific set of tenets around the need for society to have a legal system and objective decision making which takes the passion out of proceedings, so people can be subject to a reasonable process and receive a fair trial when they are accused of a crime or otherwise offending act.

Culture is to blame here, and human fallibility / emotional reaction — not religion.
 
Its Not whole religion , it is a specific country , also in that specific uneducated brainwashed people

Are the judges in Pakistan that sentence people to death for blasphemy 'uneducated brainwashed people' too or does that only apply to a crowd of people ?
 
I don't think mob law is advocated by that religion, it is more a subcontinent cultural mess.

Death sentence due to blasphemy is not a subcontinent cultural mess. It is a religious injunction that is necessitated by islamic jurisprudence that the state of Pakistan follows. Here below are about half a dozen cases where Pakistan courts play God and sentence people to death -

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2322194/lahore-woman-sentenced-to-death-for-claiming-to-be-prophet

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/9/8/pakistani-christian-sentenced-to-death-for-blasphemous-texts

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...unaid-hafeez-in-blasphemy-case-prompts-outcry

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-25874580
 
Thanks.

Nobody would be able to point to any religion or religious verse that would consider mob violence or so called “justice of the crowd” to be in any way permissible.

Religions in contrast generally have a specific set of tenets around the need for society to have a legal system and objective decision making which takes the passion out of proceedings, so people can be subject to a reasonable process and receive a fair trial when they are accused of a crime or otherwise offending act.

Culture is to blame here, and human fallibility / emotional reaction — not religion.


Instead of making feel good posts like this, please study the issue and the roots of how the blasphemy laws originated in the subcontinent.
 
Instead of making feel good posts like this, please study the issue and the roots of how the blasphemy laws originated in the subcontinent.

You're asking others to study while linking this to laws?

The laws have nothing to do with it, on the contrary those laws were made to stop mob attacks in the name of religion.

India, Pakistan, Bangladesh have ONE thing in common, mob mentality. This is a backward cultural idea taken on board by so called Muslims, Hindus or anyone else who comes from this part of the world.
 
You're asking others to study while linking this to laws?

The laws have nothing to do with it, on the contrary those laws were made to stop mob attacks in the name of religion.

India, Pakistan, Bangladesh have ONE thing in common, mob mentality. This is a backward cultural idea taken on board by so called Muslims, Hindus or anyone else who comes from this part of the world.

It has nothing do with religion but rather by individuals who use religion to justify their uncivilised norms.

This Rex guy is a pro-Modi Hindutva pretending to be your average white brit.
 
India, Pakistan, Bangladesh have ONE thing in common, mob mentality. This is a backward cultural idea taken on board by so called Muslims, Hindus or anyone else who comes from this part of the world.

You haven't answered the question. Mob anger is only one side to it. Why are pakistani judges sentencing the citizens of their country to death ? Where are they getting this idea from ?
 
You haven't answered the question. Mob anger is only one side to it. Why are pakistani judges sentencing the citizens of their country to death ? Where are they getting this idea from ?

They are following a law.

But the real reason is the Same reason why Indian judges freed Modi after 2002 Genocide. Afraid of mob justic turning to them
 
Are the judges in Pakistan that sentence people to death for blasphemy 'uneducated brainwashed people' too or does that only apply to a crowd of people ?

If the mob itself is killing people , matter is not reaching the judge , so I do not know about any judge so , if you have a specific case in mind I will look into it , then only I can comment about judge.

Right now what I can see. The debate about law is a different issue , the first issue is , matters are not being allowed to reach that stage.
 
There is a way, you need to put a clause of repentance there, a person who repents should be allowed to do so instead of killing the person. But Pakistan is a weird country where even someone criticizing a companion is considered a blaspheme. Which has NO Basis in Quran or hadeeth.

The clause is already in place if you go by Shariah law. It is well documented, accepted and applied in most Muslim societies.
 
That is a broad brush you are using here. It is one specific religion that is engaging in this behaviour and that is what should be called out, otherwise you are being dishonest.

Lets be clear, its not the religion but the people who are the culprits here. The religious laws are fairly clear on the matter and need to be followed to the T. No laws were followed in this case.

Its like blaming Hinduism for extremists murdering people for slaughtering cows in India or Catholicism for priests raping children.
 
Lets be clear, its not the religion but the people who are the culprits here. The religious laws are fairly clear on the matter and need to be followed to the T. No laws were followed in this case.

Its like blaming Hinduism for extremists murdering people for slaughtering cows in India or Catholicism for priests raping children.

Quite right.

Every religion has its supposed adherents and professed followers who commit heinous acts and recklessly take life, this has always been the case — but these people aren’t representing any religion when they do this (even if they think they are) — they are representing only themselves, and they should be held to account in accordance with the relevant law of the land.
 
Death sentence due to blasphemy is not a subcontinent cultural mess. It is a religious injunction that is necessitated by islamic jurisprudence that the state of Pakistan follows. Here below are about half a dozen cases where Pakistan courts play God and sentence people to death -

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2322194/lahore-woman-sentenced-to-death-for-claiming-to-be-prophet

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/9/8/pakistani-christian-sentenced-to-death-for-blasphemous-texts

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...unaid-hafeez-in-blasphemy-case-prompts-outcry

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-25874580


It a real issue pakistanis need to face. The law needs to be removed.
 
You are derailing the thread. India is off topic here.

Posters are asking where this mob mentality is coming from, given Pakistan was part of Indian culture for milennia, it is pretty hard to answer without providing cultural context.
 
Death sentence due to blasphemy is not a subcontinent cultural mess. It is a religious injunction that is necessitated by islamic jurisprudence that the state of Pakistan follows. Here below are about half a dozen cases where Pakistan courts play God and sentence people to death -

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2322194/lahore-woman-sentenced-to-death-for-claiming-to-be-prophet

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/9/8/pakistani-christian-sentenced-to-death-for-blasphemous-texts

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...unaid-hafeez-in-blasphemy-case-prompts-outcry

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-25874580

Death sentence due to blasphemy is not a subcontinental culture mess, but that's not what I said. I specifically said MOB LAW is a subcontinental cultural mess.

We may agree or disagree with death sentence, whether applied in Texas or Qatar, but at least there should be due legal process where qualified judges can make a ruling. What should never happen is mobs take the law into their own hands without giving the accused a chance to defend against the charges.
 
And in fear of losing vote bank, the pm or govt can't do anything about it. So condemning part is also show off and nothing to do with intention of making it right.

They will arrest the people who took the law into their own hands. A case has been filed against them already. Thats the most the govt can do. Prosecute the people who did this.
 
They will arrest the people who took the law into their own hands. A case has been filed against them already. Thats the most the govt can do. Prosecute the people who did this.

They need to be executed in public. They need to create a deterrent for others
 
They need to be executed in public. They need to create a deterrent for others

I agree that the deterrent is needed, but that will be done whether the execution is public or private. As long as its carried out. Their was a time in Pakistan it was hard to convict people who did lynchings for Blasphemy. But now people are getting convicted, and that needs to continue to happen.
 
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