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Moeen Ali - Performance Watch

If Moeen Ali had fired today, England would have gotten close.
 
Bhai is firing, but shooting blanks. :amla

Needs to respect the bowlers, rather hack away at everything.
 
hussain123 said:
What bhai association?
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There is an association on PakPassion that supports :amla bhai and Moeen bhai because they have beards and are religious. Members of this association hope that they score runs against Pakistan but the team loses so that their averages aren't disturbed and we still win.

Aik teer se do shikaar. :amla
 
Moeen is the biggest hack in this team. The guy pokes at every ball outside off. Absolute rubbish.
 
But... even Donald Bradman didn't stand a chance against the ball that dismissed Moeen bhai :))
 
Bilal7 said:
'Cause some people take offence with the fact that he is well-liked.
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Mamoon said:
There is an association on PakPassion that supports :amla bhai and Moeen bhai because they have beards and are religious. Members of this association hope that they score runs against Pakistan but the team loses so that their averages aren't disturbed and we still win.

Aik teer se do shikaar. :amla
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Rofl.i am sitting in a bus right now and people around are like wth is wrong with him.i am laughing my lungs out.coming to the
Point,he may be liked for being a practising muslum,while as he gets the hate here for the same reason, you either like or dislike these sort of players.their is no bad in looking at them as icons, bcoz they are not shameless hypocrites like shehzads and co.
 
hussain123 said:
Rofl.i am sitting in a bus right now and people around are like wth is wrong with him.i am laughing my lungs out.coming to the
Point,he may be liked for being a practising muslum,while as he gets the hate here for the same reason, you either like or dislike these sort of players.their is no bad in looking at them as icons, bcoz they are not shameless hypocrites like shehzads and co.
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It is always enjoyable to see how quickly the Bhai Association ® comes to their aid. South African and English PPers are hardly bothered, but the association arrives at the speed of light to defend their brothers.

Too new additions coming soon - Tahir bhai and Wayne 'Waleed' Parnell bhai, but their beards aren't long enough yet. Has to be first length but given the recent World Cup portraits, I think they are getting there.

Look at the number of Amla bhai threads created on this forum by the Association and then compare it to the number of threads created by South Africans. It is a landslide. Why on earth would you want him to score runs against Pakistan?!

This thread itself was created by a Pakistani.

:amla
 
Mamoon said:
This thread itself was created by a Pakistani.

:amla
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I created this thread and i created many threads on PP on different players and topics from Zimbabwe to Australia and India to Netherlands. From Faulkner to Moeen and Amla to Rohit. You are an old member of PP so you know it probably. But if there is any issue? Let me know. Thanks
 
Mamoon said:
It is always enjoyable to see how quickly the Bhai Association ® comes to their aid. South African and English PPers are hardly bothered, but the association arrives at the speed of light to defend their brothers.

Too new additions coming soon - Tahir bhai and Wayne 'Waleed' Parnell bhai, but their beards aren't long enough yet. Has to be first length but given the recent World Cup portraits, I think they are getting there.

Look at the number of Amla bhai threads created on this forum by the Association and then compare it to the number of threads created by South Africans. It is a landslide. Why on earth would you want him to score runs against Pakistan?!

This thread itself was created by a Pakistani.

:amla
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Lol, you are absolutely right.like I said, their is always love and hate relationship with these type of people.some people lose their marbles in praising them like no tomorrow., while as I was browsing through through the previous pages of this thread, their is some totally unncessary hate also, people ready to find wny small loophole they could think of and magnifying them like anything.for me, he is a descent cricketer, who is good enough to play international cricket, bcoz of the overall value he brings to this mediocre english side.
 
WebGuru said:
I created this thread and i created many threads on PP on different players and topics from Zimbabwe to Australia and India to Netherlands. From Faulkner to Moeen and Amla to Rohit. You are an old member of PP so you know it probably. But if there is any issue? Let me know. Thanks
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Don't even waste your time, bro. Let people who have nothing better to do with their lives have a "depression" over who other people like or dislike.
 
WebGuru said:
I created this thread and i created many threads on PP on different players and topics from Zimbabwe to Australia and India to Netherlands. From Faulkner to Moeen and Amla to Rohit. You are an old member of PP so you know it probably. But if there is any issue? Let me know. Thanks
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No issue WebGuru, I've great respect for you as a poster. You are the real statistician of PakPassion.
 
Did someone say bhai is a better batsman than Taylor?

Another dismal day at the office for Bhai Association ® :amla

Good tidings for tomorrow though, South Africa vs. Zimbabwe.
 
Spoke to Kabir Ali just a few days ago. Asked him about Moeen and how barring 2-3 innings opening, he hasn't had a good run going. He said it was mainly because he feels Moeen thinks he has to give England a rapid start and doesn't want to be labeled a slow player.

I don't know if he spoke to Moeen himself, or if those were his private feelings, but thought I share it with you guys.
 
Mamoon said:
It is always enjoyable to see how quickly the Bhai Association ® comes to their aid. South African and English PPers are hardly bothered, but the association arrives at the speed of light to defend their brothers.

Too new additions coming soon - Tahir bhai and Wayne 'Waleed' Parnell bhai, but their beards aren't long enough yet. Has to be first length but given the recent World Cup portraits, I think they are getting there.

Look at the number of Amla bhai threads created on this forum by the Association and then compare it to the number of threads created by South Africans. It is a landslide. Why on earth would you want him to score runs against Pakistan?!

This thread itself was created by a Pakistani.

:amla
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:))) I have said this before too. Moeen and Amla have excellent personalities but their fan boys from Pakistan are especially obnoxious.
 
Lost count of the number of times he has been MotM for England so far in his fledgling career.
 
Mamoon said:
It is always enjoyable to see how quickly the Bhai Association ® comes to their aid. South African and English PPers are hardly bothered, but the association arrives at the speed of light to defend their brothers.

Too new additions coming soon - Tahir bhai and Wayne 'Waleed' Parnell bhai, but their beards aren't long enough yet. Has to be first length but given the recent World Cup portraits, I think they are getting there.

Look at the number of Amla bhai threads created on this forum by the Association and then compare it to the number of threads created by South Africans. It is a landslide. Why on earth would you want him to score runs against Pakistan?!

This thread itself was created by a Pakistani.

:amla
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True, but it's equally funny that you are an Anglophile, but the only England player you dislike is of Pakistani descent. :jf
 
Pwned against Scotland? Jeez...

Umar must be superhero for scoring century against Afghanistan then :)
 
5 different threads on the first page of PP alone for an individual that averages 34 with the bat and 39 with the bowl in a lukewarm career consisting of 20 ODI matches as yet.

Seriously?
 
Grunge101 said:
5 different threads on the first page of PP alone for an individual that averages 34 with the bat and 39 with the bowl in a lukewarm career consisting of 20 ODI matches as yet.

Seriously?
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He's a bhai.
 
Good showing against the Scots. Looked like the only English top order batsman who was at ease. Needs to continue his performances against the Lankans now and really kick off his WC campaign.

Grunge101 said:
5 different threads on the first page of PP alone for an individual that averages 34 with the bat and 39 with the bowl in a lukewarm career consisting of 20 ODI matches as yet.

Seriously?
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You know, if you stop posting in these threads they will get buried quicker than if you keep moaning in them.
 
Mamoon said:
Don't dislike bhai. I abhor the reasons for which he is so revered in Pakistan.
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If a lot of other Pakistanis support him what is the problem ? He is of Pakistani descent. And as a British Pakistani he is a role model for a lot of british pakistani kids that they can make it at the highest level. It just comes across as unfair targeting of Moeen who by all accounts is a decent humble guy.


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That being said whichever poster Said they wanted Amla to score so against us so his average doesn't get damaged is just pathetic.


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Adil_94 said:
If a lot of other Pakistanis support him what is the problem ? He is of Pakistani descent. And as a British Pakistani he is a role model for a lot of british pakistani kids that they can make it at the highest level. It just comes across as unfair targeting of Moeen who by all accounts is a decent humble guy.


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Moeen is a humble fella. No question about it.

But if you say Pakistanis support Moeen because he is ok Pak descent, then why do they support Amla so much? Like crazily?

He is of Indian descent.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Moeen is a humble fella. No question about it.

But if you say Pakistanis support Moeen because he is ok Pak descent, then why do they support Amla so much? Like crazily?

He is of Indian descent.
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Complete bs, sorry. There are only a few guys on this board that "crazily" support Amla. Please show me the dozens and dozens of Amla worshippers?

He does have a bigger following than lets say Sangakkara , because he is a visible Muslim and Pakistani's being Muslims can relate to him more than a Sanga or Clarke. He is also one of the best batsman in the world across multiple formats, so that should be reason enough.

My point is, if Muslims look up to a hugely successful Muslim who is one of the best in his profession and is widely considered one of the best in the world, so what? Why's it such a taboo with you guys?
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Moeen is a humble fella. No question about it.

But if you say Pakistanis support Moeen because he is ok Pak descent, then why do they support Amla so much? Like crazily?

He is of Indian descent.
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Yeah there are some Amla supporters on here who like him just for his beard and Islamic faith and hold him on a higher pedestal because of his religion there are a lot of people who are like that in Pakistan and that has nothing to do with his cricket ability. But the fact is he is a world class batsman yes he is a bit of a choker in ODIS but he is still a top class batsman. What I don't like is that any PAK fan that praises Amla or likes him is ultimately a member of Bhai brigade who is just blinded by his religiosity. I like Amla as a player he is pleasing to watch for me. As much as their Amla fans who can't accept any criticism of him. There are those anti Amla fans who jump over his bad performances like a rash. It's like people who hate on Sachin because he has some pathetic fans who are intolerable of any criticism of him. Despite Sachin being a humble guy and great role model it's nonsensical.


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sensible-indian-fan said:
Moeen is a humble fella. No question about it.

But if you say Pakistanis support Moeen because he is ok Pak descent, then why do they support Amla so much? Like crazily?

He is of Indian descent.
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Also if people like Amla because of his religious nature and personality that is their choice. I've only seen Bilal 7 and Strike Rate who really love Amla too much on here. Most Pak fans in here like him but aren't crazy Blind Amla worshippers. In fact it's the anti Amla crew who seem more obsessed with him. Amla does have issues with choking no doubt I am an Amla fan who can accept his weaknesses.


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ikram17 said:
Complete bs, sorry. There are only a few guys on this board that "crazily" support Amla. Please show me the dozens and dozens of Amla worshippers?

He does have a bigger following than lets say Sangakkara , because he is a visible Muslim and Pakistani's being Muslims can relate to him more than a Sanga or Clarke. He is also one of the best batsman in the world across multiple formats, so that should be reason enough.

My point is, if Muslims look up to a hugely successful Muslim who is one of the best in his profession and is widely considered one of the best in the world, so what? Why's it such a taboo with you guys?
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Nothing wrong. Did I say its wrong?

But he does get defended like crazy. And that's because of no reason except religion.

On one hand, Pak posters call SRT not a match winner (when he freaking has brilliant records in WCs and knockouts - may not be the most clutch but is very good) and the SAME posters defend Amla when he has virtually NOTHING to show for in pressure situations.

Be it last WC (in India no less where he didn't do well against Top 8 sides) or this as of now.

He gets defended like crazily. Which is the issue.

Let me give you another example.

Indians defend SRT very much. But do you think they would defend Steyn or ponting the same way even though they rate them so much?

No. Why cos SRT is an Indian.

Same way some Pak posters defend Amla like crazily. The way they would do to say Imran (who is of their countrymen).

Why Amla? When he isn't of Pak descent at all?

The reason is simple.

Support isn't the issue. The craziness with which someone gets defended even when they are not their countryman is the issue.

The reason is the issue.

Don't get angry at me bro.

Ask any SA, NZ, Aus, SL fan here. They would tell you the same.
 
Adil_94 said:
Also if people like Amla because of his religious nature and personality that is their choice. I've only seen Bilal 7 and Strike Rate who really love Amla too much on here. Most Pak fans in here like him but aren't crazy Blind Amla worshippers. In fact it's the anti Amla crew who seem more obsessed with him. Amla does have issues with choking no doubt I am an Amla fan who can accept his weaknesses.


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You are different bro.

Some are vocal.

Others are not so vocal.

See my prev post.
 
Adil_94 said:
Also if people like Amla because of his religious nature and personality that is their choice. I've only seen Bilal 7 and Strike Rate who really love Amla too much on here. Most Pak fans in here like him but aren't crazy Blind Amla worshippers. In fact it's the anti Amla crew who seem more obsessed with him. Amla does have issues with choking no doubt I am an Amla fan who can accept his weaknesses.


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Yes.

If anything I've noticed a LOT more activity and posts as soon as Amla fails. Most of them have Indian flags besides their names. I wonder why Indians are so happy when Amla doesn't perform well?

Someone do a tally of threads regarding Amla and see how many were made by Indian posters. My search function is really bad for some reason..?
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Nothing wrong. Did I say its wrong?

But he does get defended like crazy. And that's because of no reason except religion.

On one hand, Pak posters call SRT not a match winner (when he freaking has brilliant records in WCs and knockouts - may not be the most clutch but is very good) and the SAME posters defend Amla when he has virtually NOTHING to show for in pressure situations.

Be it last WC (in India no less where he didn't do well against Top 8 sides) or this as of now.

He gets defended like crazily. Which is the issue.

Let me give you another example.

Indians defend SRT very much. But do you think they would defend Steyn or ponting the same way even though they rate them so much?

No. Why cos SRT is an Indian.

Same way some Pak posters defend Amla like crazily. The way they would do to say Imran (who is of their countrymen).

Why Amla? When he isn't of Pak descent at all?

The reason is simple.

Support isn't the issue. The craziness with which someone gets defended even when they are not their countryman is the issue.

The reason is the issue.

Don't get angry at me bro.

Ask any SA, NZ, Aus, SL fan here. They would tell you the same.
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:)) I'm not angry..bro.

What do you have to say about the mini Indian army that invades Amla threads when he fails?
 
In the process, also do a search regarding threads on Tendulkar made by Pakistani posters.
 
When I type "Amla" and search by thread title only 6 threads show up...can someone explain why?
 
ikram17 said:
:)) I'm not angry..bro.

What do you have to say about the mini Indian army that invades Amla threads when he fails?
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Yes....that is another issue.

Some Indians attack Sanga too much.
They attack Amla too much.
They attack Moeen too much.

Is it fair?

Absolutely not.

We call them out too.

By the way, when Amla succeeds, you have 5 threads popping up here.
Obviously when he fails you will have threads here with non supporters chiming in.

Same like Kohli threads when he got owned in Aus.

Or SRT bashing threads which do pop up sometimes (but now that he has retired, its gone down).
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Nothing wrong. Did I say its wrong?

But he does get defended like crazy. And that's because of no reason except religion.

On one hand, Pak posters call SRT not a match winner (when he freaking has brilliant records in WCs and knockouts - may not be the most clutch but is very good) and the SAME posters defend Amla when he has virtually NOTHING to show for in pressure situations.

Be it last WC (in India no less where he didn't do well against Top 8 sides) or this as of now.

He gets defended like crazily. Which is the issue.

Let me give you another example.

Indians defend SRT very much. But do you think they would defend Steyn or ponting the same way even though they rate them so much?

No. Why cos SRT is an Indian.

Same way some Pak posters defend Amla like crazily. The way they would do to say Imran (who is of their countrymen).

Why Amla? When he isn't of Pak descent at all?

The reason is simple.

Support isn't the issue. The craziness with which someone gets defended even when they are not their countryman is the issue.

The reason is the issue.

Don't get angry at me bro.

Ask any SA, NZ, Aus, SL fan here. They would tell you the same.
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He's a successful Muslim role model they look up to I guess. Besides Bilal7 I've not seen many go out of their way to defend Mo and Amla no matter what, but I've seen quiet a few go out of their way to tackle Mo and Amla no matter what.
 
shaz619 said:
He's a successful Muslim role model they look up to I guess. Besides Bilal7 I've not seen many go out of their way to defend Mo and Amla no matter what, but I've seen quiet a few go out of their way to tackle Mo and Amla no matter what.
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I want to see Sensible indian guy post 6-10 names of posters that GO CRAZY about Amla and defend him. Besides yes, Bilal and maybe 1 or 2 others.

Most of the discussion regarding Amla revolves around one guy calling him bhai and mentioning the beard repeatedly.
 
ikram17 said:
:)) I'm not angry..bro.
What do you have to say about the mini Indian army that invades Amla threads when he fails?
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Ask him why he's talking about Amla on a thread about Ali. When even the most sensible Indian fan here gets sucked into this "lets hate on Amla" fad, you know things are bad.

I have always asked why it is a problem if Amla and Moeen are well liked here when one of them is a future ATG and the other has a lot in common with the legion of expatriates on this site.The questiin is always evaded.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
By the way, when Amla succeeds, you have 5 threads popping up here.
Obviously when he fails you will have threads here with non supporters chiming in.

Same like Kohli threads when he got owned in Aus.

Or SRT bashing threads which do pop up sometimes (but now that he has retired, its gone down).
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Haven't really seen 5 threads popping whenever Amla succeeds tbh, I could be wrong though.

If you could help me with the search function, since your'e more experienced on this board.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
You are different bro.

Some are vocal.

Others are not so vocal.

See my prev the blind Amla fans are just as bad as Sachinistas. And a lot of the anti Amla brigade are as bad as those pak fans who hate Sachin and always try belittling him. It doesn't make sense to hate on a player who has some pathetic fans but they themselves are good guys like Amla and Sachin.


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shaz619 said:
He's a successful Muslim role model they look up to I guess. Besides Bilal7 I've not seen many go out of their way to defend Mo and Amla no matter what, but I've seen quiet a few go out of their way to tackle Mo and Amla no matter what.
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Yes, that's a fair enough reason. If I were a Muslim, I would look upto Amla for sure.

But I won't defend him like I would for my countrymen.

Just like SRT defenders go all out to defend SRT, Amla's defenders do the same.

Some are vocal. Others are not so much.

SRT defenders do it because SRT is from India.
Amla defenders do it because you know it.

Also yes, as I mentioned prev, Sanga, Moeen and Amla do get their unfair share of criticism just like SRT did before he retired.

That's not right too but it happens.

Those people get called out too.
 
Adil_94 said:
The blind Amla fans are just as bad as Sachinistas. And a lot of the anti Amla brigade are as bad as those pak fans who hate Sachin and always try belittling him. It doesn't make sense to hate on a player who has some pathetic fans but they themselves are good guys like Amla and Sachin.


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Therein lies a subtle difference.

There are Amla haters and there are Amla critics who do rate him.
 
Bilal7 said:
Ask him why he's talking about Amla on a thread about Ali. When even the most sensible Indian fan here gets sucked into this "lets hate on Amla" fad, you know things are bad.

I have always asked why it is a problem if Amla and Moeen are well liked here when one of them is a future ATG and the other has a lot in common with the legion of expatriates on this site.The questiin is always evaded.
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Go and scroll up and see why I brought Amla in.

So just because I am a critic of Amla, I am a hater.

Even though I rate him?

Show me one post in this whole forum where I have heaped unnecessary hate on Amla and haven't given him due credit where it deserves.
 
Bilal7 said:
Ask him why he's talking about Amla on a thread about Ali. When even the most sensible Indian fan here gets sucked into this "lets hate on Amla" fad, you know things are bad.

I have always asked why it is a problem if Amla and Moeen are well liked here when one of them is a future ATG and the other has a lot in common with the legion of expatriates on this site.The questiin is always evaded.
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I will answer this question.

Easy peasy.

No big deal.

Amla being well liked isn't an issue.

Amla getting defended like crazy is.

Why do Indian defend SRT so much and not POnting or Steyn?

Simple. Because SRT is an Indian. Agreed? Cool.

Now why do pak posters defend Amla so much inspite of him not being pak descent or playing for Pak and NOT some player like ponting or Steyn?

Simple. You know it.

Now here's the thing - THERE IS NOTHING WRONG IN DOING THAT. Its fine. Each one has their reasons.

But people will say some people defend Amla so much because of whatever reason it is.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Go and scroll up and see why I brought Amla in.

So just because I am a critic of Amla, I am a hater.

Even though I rate him?
Show me one post in this whole forum where I have heaped unnecessary hate on Amla and haven't given him due credit where it deserves.
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Will have to pick this up some other time but I'm sure saying that he has done nothing in pressure situations is very unfair. This thread is about Moeen Ali.
 
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Will have to pick this up some other time but I'm sure saying that he has done nothing in pressure situations is very unfair. This thread is about Moeen Ali.
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Sure mate.

Just posted to mention that I didn't bring Amla just like that. It was a genuine question to Adil with whom I have a great rapport.
 
From the Amla vs Kohli thread.

6 of the top 10 posters are Indian

1 is Safrican I believe

3 are Pakistani and one of them is Mamoon.
 

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Why should anyone go into a "depression" if people, apparently, support Ali because he's a Muslim? I am sure that hating on someone because of their religion is the problem and not supporting someone because of it.

Ali himself has said that he wants to be a rolemodel for Muslim youngsters.
 
Bilal7 said:
Why should anyone go into a "depression" if people, apparently, support Ali because he's a Muslim? I am sure that hating on someone because of their religion is the problem and not supporting someone because of it.

Ali himself has said that he wants to be a rolemodel for Muslim youngsters.
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I really don't get it. Not like they are supporting ISIS.
 
ikram17 said:
From the Amla vs Kohli thread.

6 of the top 10 posters are Indian

1 is Safrican I believe

3 are Pakistani and one of them is Mamoon.
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You have go and see there were mini discussions not related to Amla going on.

Like impact of openers vs middle order.

Anyways, what does this thing prove?

I rate Amla. But not better than Kohli.
Tempus rates Amla. Better than Kohli.
Indian Willow rates Amla.
Buffet (more SA than Indian) rates Amla.
Enforcer rates Amla.
Itachi rates Amla. Better than Kohli.
jusarrived says Amla is just ok. Works fine as opener for modern era but that's it.

5 out of 6 Indians there rate Amla.
2 rate him better than Kohli.

None of them are haters. Jusarrived doesn't rate Amla much. He doesn't rate SRT that much too.

So what does that stat which you posted prove?
 
It could just be the case of hating on the fans as such. As we have seen over the years on any Tendulkar issue, how his fans get defensive. It gets to a point that the fans are not tolerant on others having a different point of view. Some opponents are downright jerks in their own right trying to demean the great man, whereas others just have different preferences. Those others subconsciously started to despise Tendulkar just because of those fans and not because of anything that Tendulkar did. I mean why would anyone dislike him or hate on him for a personal reason to that extent. But they did. And it was to get back to those fans that irritated them.

The same thing I think is also going on for Amla and Moeen. Amla is a great player and needs to get the respect that he has earned. Moeen is an average player who is doted on for a reason that he is a good Muslim and a role model for some, but not because of his superlative play. For both these players, I think it irks others that think that the praise goes way beyond they deserve, and so an opponent group formed that abhors the supporters of these players more than the players themselves.

Ok, so I just put on what I thought was I was seeing from my perspective. Personally, I think Amla is a current great and if he finishes his career at the same level he will be among the top batsmen of all time. Moeen, on the other hand, needs to do more to earn my respect. Also, I don't think beard should have anything to do with liking / revering a player, which I feel is true here.
 
Bilal7 said:
Why should anyone go into a "depression" if people, apparently, support Ali because he's a Muslim? I am sure that hating on someone because of their religion is the problem and not supporting someone because of it.

Ali himself has said that he wants to be a rolemodel for Muslim youngsters.
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No one goes into depression.

Mamoon is very vocal and attacking.

Others are not.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
No one goes into depression.

Mamoon is very vocal and attacking.

Others are not.
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Mamoon has explicitly stated that seeing Amla and Ali getting praised sends here m into a depression. Several other Indian posters who haven't been mentioned in that post count chart also have similar breakdowns. You might not have noticed it but it is clearly there.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Yes, that's a fair enough reason. If I were a Muslim, I would look upto Amla for sure.

But I won't defend him like I would for my countrymen.

Just like SRT defenders go all out to defend SRT, Amla's defenders do the same.

Some are vocal. Others are not so much.

SRT defenders do it because SRT is from India.
Amla defenders do it because you know it.

Also yes, as I mentioned prev, Sanga, Moeen and Amla do get their unfair share of criticism just like SRT did before he retired.

That's not right too but it happens.

Those people get called out too.
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Allow it bro :)) am not fussed by it, it's fun reading the posts though when people fight to defend their favourite power ranger no matter what :yk but besides the usual people it's not such a big deal, fans go out of their way to defend SRT i don't even have an issue with that when you look at what he's done for Indian Cricket

Am Muslim but I don't look up to Amla, I like the Undertaker though :yk and HBK he's a good Christian :afridi
 
Bilal7 said:
Mamoon has explicitly stated that seeing Amla and Ali getting praised sends here m into a depression. Several other Indian posters who haven't been mentioned in that post count chart also have similar breakdowns. You might not have noticed it but it is clearly there.
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Ok here's the thing.

I did mention there may be some Indians who would heap unnecessary hate on Amla.

Just like those who heap it on Sanga, Moeen too. Mamoon himself has said a few times how insecure some Indians are when it comes to Sanga. :))

Which is true.

I am not presenting a picture where there is no unnecessary criticism heaped upon. It exists. On both sides.

As for Mamoon, he may have been too harsh on Amla supporters at times but I have never seen him not give Amla due credit where it is due.

Haters don't give credit. Ever.
 
shaz619 said:
Allow it bro :)) am not fussed by it, it's fun reading the posts though when people fight to defend their favourite power ranger no matter what :yk but besides the usual people it's not such a big deal, fans go out of their way to defend SRT i don't even have an issue with that when you look at what he's done for Indian Cricket

Am Muslim but I don't look up to Amla, I like the Undertaker though :yk and HBK he's a good Christian :afridi
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Exactly. Its super fun. :))

Amla is wonderful role model. Its hard to not like that guy. :)
 
Moving on... Hoping to see some fireworks from the beard to be feared when England takes on Lanka. He'll never be as good as Sehwag, Anwar or Gilly but he can play a similar role for his team and help them get off to a flier in every game.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
You have go and see there were mini discussions not related to Amla going on.

Like impact of openers vs middle order.

Anyways, what does this thing prove?

I rate Amla. But not better than Kohli.
Tempus rates Amla. Better than Kohli.
Indian Willow rates Amla.
Buffet (more SA than Indian) rates Amla.
Enforcer rates Amla.
Itachi rates Amla. Better than Kohli.
jusarrived says Amla is just ok. Works fine as opener for modern era but that's it.

5 out of 6 Indians there rate Amla.
2 rate him better than Kohli.

None of them are haters. Jusarrived doesn't rate Amla much. He doesn't rate SRT that much too.

So what does that stat which you posted prove?
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my friend, show me the sea of Pakistani's the defend him crazily. I could be wrong, just prove me wrong.

All we have is anecdotal info. You see a sea of Pakistani's, I don't. I mostly see Indian's on a Pakistani forum from that one thread which is very popular as of recent. posting in Amla threads and I showed it to you above.
 
ikram17 said:
my friend, show me the sea of Pakistani's the defend him crazily. I could be wrong, just prove me wrong.

All we have is anecdotal info. You see a sea of Pakistani's, I don't. I mostly see Indian's on a Pakistani forum from that one thread which is very popular as of recent. posting in Amla threads and I showed it to you above.
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Mate, you posted a stat talking about number of Indians in one Amla thread.

I said all of them were having discussions and all of them rated Amla.

Even SRT defending threads, mostly the discussions will be carried by few posters and rest would chime in.

When Amla thread does come up, we can see. You can't calculate number of posts to see who defends whom.

General trend in which posters reply would give you an idea.
 
This guy is a hack of the highest order, in the league of R. Sharma, a 100 against the weakest team and all of a sudden he is Sobers.
 
must really hurt haters who haven't got an iota of talent themselves to see the success moeen is achieving and the credit he is getting from legends like boycott
 
It's pretty clear Indians don't like Amla and Moeen because of their beards, I hope they carry on scoring runs, crying Indians can weep all they like. Bunch of clowns.
 
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