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Moeen Ali - Performance Watch

Electron said:
You give him respect he deserves, Moeen bhai won't harm you. Try to spank him around like other spinners, Moeen bhai will pawn you.
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This. Although, the Indians had to target someone and Moeen wasn't the worst choice.

A very good find he is becoming for England. Good batsman, decent bowler and good fielder as well. Also seems like he could be considered for captaincy in the future. :moali
 
English Professor continues to be hit-and-miss with the bat.

One good score followed by a string of failures.
 
Moeen needs more consistency. He was struggling today on a tough pitch. He is a good ODI find for England though
 
He is indeed a good find in ODIs. Decent bowler and can be explosive with the bat, but so far he isn't living up to the hype and expectations.
 
Mamoon said:
He is indeed a good find in ODIs. Decent bowler and can be explosive with the bat, but so far he isn't living up to the hype and expectations.
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Only if your expectations were sky high. I always thought he would be a good player for England across formats and he has proven himself to be just that.
 
Is spin bowling is surprisingly good. But if he continues to bat like this, he will not stay too much time at the top of the order.
 
Had better expectations with the bat, the Moeen bhai brigade was in full swing prior to his debut and going gaga over his fantastic talent and how he is reminiscent of Saeed Anwar.

Nothing more than the English version of Hafeez.
 
Mamoon said:
Had better expectations with the bat, the Moeen bhai brigade was in full swing prior to his debut and going gaga over his fantastic talent and how he is reminiscent of Saeed Anwar.

Nothing more than the English version of Hafeez.
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Buttler or bhai?
 
Bhai, Buttler is a great prospect for England.

The second most exciting young, upcoming wicket-keeper batsman after de Kock.
 
Moeen Ali is far from a hack. People saying that haven't seen him play before today. If some of the shots he plays doesn't remind you of Saeed Anwar then you're either blind or need to refresh your memory of Anwar bhai.

He's a better batsman than Hafeez, not as good with the ball and a comparable fielder. in tests, I'd take Moeen over Hafeez as well.
 
People misuse the term 'hack' all the time.

Not every under-performing player is a hack. Hacks have their own category: guys like Finch, Pollard, Shahzaib etc. These guys are hacks

Moeen bhai plays classical strokes and is a very gifted timer, but he is not good enough.

Must be tough for Bilal7 to defend two bhais at the same time, and one of them isn't helping his cause at all with his performances at the moment.

His performance will be key to England's success at the World Cup. Bell will anchor their innings and likely to be their best batsman, but Moeen bhai will have to provide the impetus up front.

If he has a good World Cup with the bat, England can surprise a few people.
 
Needs to be more consistent with the Bat, doing a good job with the ball though. A vital member of the ODI side no doubt. The bowling is a bonus, Moeen is a batsman first and am confident he'll turn up at the World Cup. I don't feel like he's hyped, his bowling has got people excited though because being someone who is a batsman first shouldn't be able to bowl like that it's probably a surprise to Moeen himself and fans at the prospect of Moeen being a genuine A/R potentially for England. He's a new player and is still finding his feet in a way so my expectations him are not so high, i do expect him to adjust to the conditions in Australia eventually. He tends to peak a bit late, hopefully he can win England some matches during the crunch games.
 
Its not tough for me at all since I'm not the one getting depressed over which players other people like. Nor do I have cognitive dissonance with regards to Amla and Moeen and have to type up some ridiculous posts so I can present them as great/good players and overrated/mediocre players at the same time.

Moeen is England's best ODI opener, after Bell and his performances have been more than satisfactory at the moment. Outscored Kohli in this CB series so far. :)
 
Bilal7 said:
This. Although, the Indians had to target someone and Moeen wasn't the worst choice.

A very good find he is becoming for England. Good batsman, decent bowler and good fielder as well. Also seems like he could be considered for captaincy in the future. :moali
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Was a captain at the U-19 level for England
 
I actually kind of like Moeen bhai, because he has injected some much needed energy and life into my second team. I don't enjoy him not performing, trust me. :amla
 
Bilal7 said:
Should be looked as a captaincy option. :moali
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He has good leadership qualities from what I've seen in his early career but needs to establish himself permanently in the ODI side first, he didn't always lead by example as a captain though i guess he was good generally but had a poor world cup as a player whilst being a leader.
 
shaz619 said:
He has good leadership qualities from what I've seen in his early career but needs to establish himself permanently in the ODI side first, he didn't always lead by example as a captain though i guess he was good generally but had a poor world cup as a player whilst being a leader.
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Correct. Needs to focus on his individual performances first and then take over the reigns when he'll have the respect of his team.
 
If Amla bhai and Moeen bhai captain their respective teams at the same time, half of your life's goals will be achieved in my opinion.
 
Mamoon said:
If Amla bhai and Moeen bhai captain their respective teams at the same time, half of your life's goals will be achieved in my opinion.
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Nah but I will be happy for them, have to admit.

Hopefully the hate/jealousy/depression won't end up leaving you seriously hurt.
 
Moeed Ali has a knack of throwing it away after making good starts but that's what you get with explosive starts. He needs to curb down a little I guess.
 
Was playing very well but an amazing delivery from MJ gets him. Can't think of too many batsmen who would have fended that one off safely.
 
Lol. People defend Moeen Ali here like he pays their rent :))). Amla and Moeen are the nicest folks, but most of their fans from Pakistan are surely obnoxious.
 
Laal said:
Lol. People defend Moeen Ali here like he pays their rent :))). Amla and Moeen are the nicest folks, but most of their fans from Pakistan are surely obnoxious.
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The obnoxious folks are the ones that come up with posts like these.
 
Played some good shots today I was impressed, he just needs to go and make a big score......
 
He is a great batsman, unlucky to average only 30, unlucky that bowlers not showing him respect and are getting him out...
 
Mooen bhai = Pakistani descent

Amla bhai = Indian descent

The difference in class between the two when it comes to batting is clearly understandable.
 
Mamoon said:
Mooen bhai = Pakistani descent

Amla bhai = Indian descent

The difference in class between the two when it comes to batting is clearly understandable.
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That's what I was thinking today, he played some very good drives and then got out to a Mitch Beauty, couldn't play the short ball well enough like :amla Moeen is a good bowler though. Averaging 28.00 vs India's batting with an economy rate of 4.11.

He is better than Boparadein, but needs to be consistent. Nothing special about Moeen so far. :shakib
 
Bhai is just a poor mans Dhawan as a batsman. As an all round LOI Package he is vital for the english team though. Canny bowler and an aggressive opener who on his day can be devastating
 
Mamoon said:
Mooen bhai = Pakistani descent

Amla bhai = Indian descent

The difference in class between the two when it comes to batting is clearly understandable.
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Probably the most stupid post of all time.

This is 1st out of the rest of the 45,000 ridiculous posts.
 
Mamoon said:
Mooen bhai = Pakistani descent

Amla bhai = Indian descent

The difference in class between the two when it comes to batting is clearly understandable.
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haha.

Comparing two bearded fellows with two rival descents . fun isnt it?
 
Englands gonna win the World Cup.
Root and Moeen will be stars of the tournament.

it will England v SA final
 
Robert said:
Not good enough at what? Do you mean that he is not consistent enough?
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Poor against the short ball and doesn't think like a batsman and has poor judgement.

He would fit in very well in the Pakistan team, but I don't think he is good enough for England, at least not in Test cricket.
 
No love and respect shown to our bhai. Another sorry outing.

Misbah and Adil broke many Pakistani hearts today.
 
Bhai is turning out to be a joke of a cricketer. Needs to get his act together fast.

Pakistani genes working their magic on him.
 
nish_mate said:
Moeen is a poor man's Jadeja
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Much better than Jadeja.

A genuinely poor game for Ali but well, he was facing Pakistan after all. Still England's second best opener and best spinner and future captaincy candidate. :moali
 
Shows how poor India are, doesn't it?

On a side note, whats with the term Bhai? Seems like a negative connotation given the context.
 
Asif khan said:
Shows how poor India are, doesn't it?

On a side note, whats with the term Bhai? Seems like a negative connotation given the context.
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Yeah bhai is used to mock some of the Amla fans on PP Who started calling him Amla Bhai because of his beard and devoutness. So now anyone who has a big beard is mockingly called Bhai.
 
Moeen needs to improve his consistency. He needs to give himself sometime to settle. Atm just a poor mans Dhawan as a batsman. And a poor mans Hafeez with the ball
 
Average cricketer as i have said before. The more he plays the more he will be exposed.
 
It's hilarious how Bharat keeps struggling against his pies, quite baffling. Hasn't scored much against them though.

At the moment it's difficult to say whether he's a batsman pretending to be a bowler, or a bowler pretending to be a batsman.

Seems to be the definition of a bits and pieces cricketer, but his presence is important for England in Limited Overs.

Don't see much of a Test future at this rate, and captaincy talk is stupid and immature, when you have someone like Joe Root in the team, who looks set to be the next Test captain and in due time, might succeed Morgan in ODIs as well.

Might get a go as the T20 captain.
 
Moeen Ali seems to be reaching Hashim Amla level popularity on here. So called "underrated" ODI bowlers like Anderson get smashed and England as a unit have been pathetic but yes, Ali failing is the biggest thing to come out of this.

Still averages 30 at a SR of 100 and I expect him to destroy a couple of bowling attacks during the WC. And knock-out India single-handedly if it comes to that.
 
Bilal7 said:
Moeen Ali seems to be reaching Hashim Amla level popularity on here. So called "underrated" ODI bowlers like Anderson get smashed and England as a unit have been pathetic but yes, Ali failing is the biggest thing to come out of this
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last i heard there were no clouds on sky today?
 
Bilal7 said:
Moeen Ali seems to be reaching Hashim Amla level popularity on here. So called "underrated" ODI bowlers like Anderson get smashed and England as a unit have been pathetic but yes, Ali failing is the biggest thing to come out of this.

Still averages 30 at a SR of 100 and I expect him to destroy a couple of bowling attacks during the WC. And knock-out India single-handedly if it comes to that.
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You believe Bhai deserves to be a part of English XI?
 
Moeen bhai's failures hurting too many people here.

Don't worry, an :amla bhai master-class is on the cards tomorrow, which will provide some much needed relief.

Its just an unfortunate complication that Bhai #2 is turning out to be a joke, but Bhai #1 is a complete class act, so you can keep your heads high and be proud.
 
Strike Rate said:
last i heard there were no clouds on sky today?
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There were no clouds against Pakistan either, yet he swung the ball. Today he bowled well as well with the new ball, had a catch dropped too, but Australian batsmen proved too good for him again.

Now let's focus on bhai, or we can continue to talk about other players to cover up for bhai.
 
Electron said:
You believe Bhai deserves to be a part of English XI?
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Obviously. He's a better ODI batsman than Alex Hales and James Taylor and his spin bowling isn't far behind Tredwell either. You could make a case for moving him down to #6 but dropping him would be foolish.
 
Bhai got owned against pace again. Raina's bearded cousin when it comes to facing short pitched bowling.
 
Let me add Ballance and Bopara to the list of batters that Moeen is better than.
 
LOL at bhai is a better batsman than Taylor.

Taylor and Root will carry England's batting for a decade in Tests and ODIs.

Bhai is a better T20 player.
 
Ballance is better than bhai, but Bopara is rubbish.

Congrats to bhai on being better than Bopara.
 
Poor cricketer who got too much hype here because of his beard.
 
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Taylor isn't going to be long-term LOI batsman for England. He might rack up a few good scores here and there and I expect him to do so today since this game is already dead and he can play at his own pace but keeping him in the lineup is only going to take the English ODI team back a few steps. He doesn't have SR to play this format. Same goes for Ballance but atleast he seems to be a better 'Younis Khan' than Taylor and can take the shine off the ball on most occasions.

Both should be good test players though.
 
Bhai is English Hafeez, he needs to be tried down the order.

Will deliver at the top of the order once in 10 games.
 
Moeen Ali is a worse cricketer than Ballance.

No two ways about it.

He is famous because he was made "Bhai" early.

He will never be a test player if he's so awful against the short ball.

T20 seems to be his best forte.

That or move down the order like the hack Akmal.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Moeen Ali is a worse cricketer than Ballance.

No two ways about it.

He is famous because he was made "Bhai" early.

He will never be a test player if he's so awful against the short ball.

T20 seems to be his best forte.

That or move down the order like the hack Akmal.
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Ballance has made a superb start to his Test career, so I don't see how anyone can claim that bhai is a better batsman.
 
Lol, a moeen ali thread too to bash the poor guy.why are his performances brought so much into picture?
 
The difference in class between the two bhais is absolutely startling, and a very unfortunate complication for Bhai Association ® :amla
 
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