Mohammad Hafeez undergoes bowling action test in England [Update Post #202]

[Abdullah719]

So, basically Imad divided by 2 ...........

But he bats at important positions, fields in important positions, provides invaluable advice to captains.......

 

[MMHS]

But he bats at important positions, fields in important positions.....

Critical question is - Why Sarfraz doesn't give Malik more overs? He is comfortably better turner of the ball to get wickets in middle overs. In both measures, Malik is pushed down to 2nd fiddle - bats at 5, bowls occasionally, and often sent to patrol 3rd man/fine leg!!!!

 

[mak36]

Critical question is - Why Sarfraz doesn't give Malik more overs? He is comfortably better turner of the ball to get wickets in middle overs. In both measures, Malik is pushed down to 2nd fiddle - bats at 5, bowls occasionally, and often sent to patrol 3rd man/fine leg!!!!

Malik offers too many loose deliveries, which isn't what the team needs from such a bowler. They want someone who can keep it tight.

 

[mak36]

ODIs this year excluding SL series....

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This will upset all the Indian posters who said Hafeez was vital to Pakistan's success with the ball.

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[Abdullah719]

Malik offers too many loose deliveries, which isn't what the team needs from such a bowler. They want someone who can keep it tight.

Basically a defensive move, as I mentioned in the other thread.

Sarfaraz can afford to be a little more attacking and look to go for the kill specially against this SL team.

For example when Shadab first came on to bowl today (and got 2 wickets in 2 balls), Hafeez had already bowled 6+ overs.

 

[Syed1]

Basically a defensive move, as I mentioned in the other thread.

Sarfaraz can afford to be a little more attacking and look to go for the kill specially against this SL team.

For example when Shadab first came on to bowl today (and got 2 wickets in 2 balls), Hafeez had already bowled 6+ overs.

Maybe because two lefties were batting

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Malik offers too many loose deliveries, which isn't what the team needs from such a bowler. They want someone who can keep it tight.

He keeps tight by chucking only. With his remodelled action he is not able to keep tight or take wickets. He chucks here and there when needed to keep himself alive in the team.

 

[Abdullah719]

Maybe because two lefties were batting

What's the point if he can't get them out? We don't need to look to contain these SL batsmen, they don't even look like they care... Hafeez is the least threatening bowler in the team.

 

[mak36]

He keeps tight by chucking only. With his remodelled action he is not able to keep tight or take wickets. He chucks here and there when needed to keep himself alive in the team.

Re-read my post. I was talking about Malik. He has a clean action.

 

[Prince of Pakistan]

When will he get his action tested? He could miss the T20 games then.

 

[princeuk]

Glenn Maxwell also resorts to suspectable action at times, he's not been reported yet.

Ojha and Harbi have played international cricket post Ajmal ban, they have not been reported as well.

There's clear bias, one agrees or not

Here here, I agree with this comment. I have not seen the latest ODI's between pakistan and SriLanka however if Hafeez is chucking then he should be rightly called however our players are targeted a bit more compared to other countries, as you said maxwell and co dont seem to be scrutinised and the ones that have been are allowed to get on with it after initally been called. It seems rather selective to me.

 

[mak36]

Basically a defensive move, as I mentioned in the other thread.

Sarfaraz can afford to be a little more attacking and look to go for the kill specially against this SL team.

For example when Shadab first came on to bowl today (and got 2 wickets in 2 balls), Hafeez had already bowled 6+ overs.

I agree Shadab should have come on earlier.

My post was more aimed at answering why Hafeez bowls over Malik, even though the latter is a bigger turner of the ball. My point was Hafeez is better at the containing role because he bowls fewer loose deliveries.

 

[mak36]

Maybe because two lefties were batting

Shadab has shown he more than capable at getting lefties out, both in this series as well as during the CT.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Re-read my post. I was talking about Malik. He has a clean action.

This thread is about hafeez and ur post is about Malik but it sounds to me as u compare Malik vs hafeez by saying hafeez keeps it tight but Malik doesn’t which is true but the difference is clean action

 

[mak36]

This thread is about hafeez and ur post is about Malik but it sounds to me as u compare Malik vs hafeez by saying hafeez keeps it tight but Malik doesn’t which is true but the difference is clean action

Conversations evolve. A poster asked why Malik doesn't bowl more (than Hafeez) and I was giving the answer.

As for clean action, even yesterday when Hafeez was bowling with a rounder action he only went for 29 runs.

 

[Abdullah719]

Hafeez to undergo bowling action test in England

LAHORE: Pakistan all-rounder Mohammad Hafeez on Monday left for England for his bowling action test, Samaa reported.

The spinner’s bowling action was reported in the recent one-day series between Pakistan and Sri Lanka in the United Arab Emirates (UAE).

The test will take place on 1st November 2017.

Before leaving for England, Hafeez expressed his optimism of clearing the bowling action test.

“My bowling action is natural,” the Pakistani cricketer said.

This is not the first time that his bowling action has come under question. The off spinner was banned for bowling upto a year in 2015 when his action was found illegal.

https://www.samaa.tv/sports/2017/10/hafeez-to-undergo-bowling-action-test-in-england/

 

[hadi123]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Going to Uk for Test of my bowling action , IN SHAA ALLAH M very confident to get clear this test , as I m bowling with same remodelled bowling action since I got cleared by ICC , keep me in ur prayers & all wil be FINE , AAMEEN</p>— Mohammad Hafeez (@MHafeez22) <a href="https://twitter.com/MHafeez22/status/924839047821963265?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 30, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[New Yorker]

Critical question is - Why Sarfraz doesn't give Malik more overs? He is comfortably better turner of the ball to get wickets in middle overs. In both measures, Malik is pushed down to 2nd fiddle - bats at 5, bowls occasionally, and often sent to patrol 3rd man/fine leg!!!!

malik is an utterly spent force as a bowler. just look at his bowling stats for oh the last five years or so. better turned perchance but not a better bowler.

 

[MMHS]

malik is an utterly spent force as a bowler. just look at his bowling stats for oh the last five years or so. better turned perchance but not a better bowler.

Since his return (2015), Malik has played 41 matches and bowled 144 overs, for 13 wickets at 61 with an economy of 5.5

Since being cleared from chucking (though he does it selectively still, that's why got called again), this year in 18 ODI MoHa has bowled 123 overs for 7 wickets at 74 with an economy of 4.2 - and those 123 overs are dominated by bowling against this WI & this SRL side on sluggish WI & UAE tracks. We should recall that surprisingly Sarfraz and management kept him out of bowling much in CT, an ICC event.

I should also mention that, against this SRL side on this sluggish UAE track, Sarfraz has given Mian Malik 9 overs - he has 1 wicket for 36 at an economy of 4.00

Now, going by these stats, why should I believe that Malik can't be used for 5/6 "legal" overs when 2 lefties are batting and the track is gripping a bit, because he turns it miles compared to MoHa or Imad's darts, that too illegally for MoHa?

 

[Yossarian]

Never mind being "The Professor" Hafeez must be totally thick. How else do you explain someone who's been suspended twice previously for chucking, but still doesn't have the brains to ensure that he doesn't even come close to having a suspect bowling action again?

Doesn't he realize that not only are there numerous hi-tech cameras focused on all bowlers as they bowl, but also that, because of his previous suspensions, special attention will be focused on him and his bowling action, by the ICC, by the umpires, by the broadcasters video cameras, by press cameramen, and even by the opposition?

 

[New Yorker]

Since his return (2015), Malik has played 41 matches and bowled 144 overs, for 13 wickets at 61 with an economy of 5.5

Since being cleared from chucking (though he does it selectively still, that's why got called again), this year in 18 ODI MoHa has bowled 123 overs for 7 wickets at 74 with an economy of 4.2 - and those 123 overs are dominated by bowling against this WI & this SRL side on sluggish WI & UAE tracks. We should recall that surprisingly Sarfraz and management kept him out of bowling much in CT, an ICC event.

I should also mention that, against this SRL side on this sluggish UAE track, Sarfraz has given Mian Malik 9 overs - he has 1 wicket for 36 at an economy of 4.00

Now, going by these stats, why should I believe that Malik can't be used for 5/6 "legal" overs when 2 lefties are batting and the track is gripping a bit, because he turns it miles compared to MoHa or Imad's darts, that too illegally for MoHa?

I wholeheartedly believe and have elsewhere argued that both Malik and MoHa after being called are ineffective bowlers, even if viewed as allrounders. I never belied that MoHa's relatively economy these days makes up for an average in the 70s. But MoHa's awfuleness is not an argument for playing Malik. If you evaluate him for the last 18 months he averages 71, which is most likely why is is so rarely bowled. His last 3 fer was against Zimbabwe. Why would you want to swap one of these duds out for another? Can't we find a bowling allrounder with some bite to get through these 5/6 overs, say a Shadab? If turning it miles were the only criterion for tossing the ball to a part timer then Azhar should arguably be in line ahead of Malik. But in ODIs economy also counts for something, which is why it is quite understandable a captain might go with an Imad, if choking is required, or a Shadab, if wickets are wanted. In time, I think Shadab will be able to do both jobs quite well.

 

[MMHS]

I wholeheartedly believe and have elsewhere argued that both Malik and MoHa after being called are ineffective bowlers, even if viewed as allrounders. I never belied that MoHa's relatively economy these days makes up for an average in the 70s. But MoHa's awfuleness is not an argument for playing Malik. If you evaluate him for the last 18 months he averages 71, which is most likely why is is so rarely bowled. His last 3 fer was against Zimbabwe. Why would you want to swap one of these duds out for another? Can't we find a bowling allrounder with some bite to get through these 5/6 overs, say a Shadab? If turning it miles were the only criterion for tossing the ball to a part timer then Azhar should arguably be in line ahead of Malik. But in ODIs economy also counts for something, which is why it is quite understandable a captain might go with an Imad, if choking is required, or a Shadab, if wickets are wanted. In time, I think Shadab will be able to do both jobs quite well.

Malik isn't a regular bowling option for sure. But, as I mentioned in few particular context he can be used because he is extremely cunning. I think, couple of season back, ENG was chasing 213 and Malik, Gohar made it 99/4, only for Azhar to loosen the grip by allowing them singles and not putting enough catching fielders. In those situations, particularly when teams are chasing tricky targets, he can be used because he bowls with a batsman's psyche (that's what a batsman should do in a given situation).

A legal MoHa is a liability with ball, which CT should prove; while on such UAE tracks, against this SRL side with half of the batsmen lefti, give Malik 50 overs (5 X 10), he'll end up comfortably better bowler than "legal" Moha.

In Asia, PAK should play 2 genuine spinners on absolute bowling merit - good that Shadab can bat; great can be if they replace Imad with R Hasan or Gohar, both can bat and far better spinner; even Kamran Ghulam if he can turn it (haven't seen him in last 4 years) + a 3rd spin option from batsmen, which Hari & Malik is more than capable of. Add 2 pacers and one pace bowling all-rounder (Fahim) makes a nice, balanced attack of 2.5 distribution. Outside Asia, 2nd specialist spinner misses out for a 3rd pacer, to make it 3.5 in favor of pace.

In India, there are more such "spin All-rounders" than total number of professional cricketers outside India, but they don't play such all-rounders much - regardless of their batting, Chahal and this lefti kid (Or Axer) is playing regularly and they are using Jadav guy as 3rd spinner who isn't much better than Malik or Haris - this should be eye opener.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Never mind being "The Professor" Hafeez must be totally thick. How else do you explain someone who's been suspended twice previously for chucking, but still doesn't have the brains to ensure that he doesn't even come close to having a suspect bowling action again?

Doesn't he realize that not only are there numerous hi-tech cameras focused on all bowlers as they bowl, but also that, because of his previous suspensions, special attention will be focused on him and his bowling action, by the ICC, by the umpires, by the broadcasters video cameras, by press cameramen, and even by the opposition?

desperation to secure his spot in the team

Its a worse version of Ajmal who blatantly chucking in PSL

 

[riz45]

Hafeez is a bit of an expert at deceiving ICC-accredited bio-mechanics experts.Will he be able do it again? I certainly hope so as we desperately need his bowling in LOI’s.

 

[FreePalestine]

It doesn't look like he chucks it at all. Arm looks pretty straight... It could just be a perception thing, if an umpire sees something because he is looking for it from a past offender. If he clears the test, that means he is legit.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The tests on Mohammad Hafeez's bowling action will take place tomorrow at Loughborough University <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/925446290724487168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 31, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[DRsohail]

hope he is banned and we dont see him again playing for pakistan.

 

[babajee]

Pathetic post. You need to get your priorities straight.

He is a cricketer that represents Pakistan and has helped Pakistan win games.

I hope he passes the exam, he will stay in the team if he performs. Stuff like this is uncalled for.

We want Haris.

Haris is the saviour of Pakistani batting. ATG in the making.

 

[mmkextreme_1]

We want Haris.

Haris is the saviour of Pakistani batting. ATG in the making.

That is fine, but using such wording is uncalled for.

 

[Pete Rose]

They don’t need to waste money on these tests. He chucks because he gets away with it without any consequences from the pcb

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

As Pakistan cricket fans should we wish him to pass the test, or the opposite?
I just heard what my heart whispered

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Pathetic post. You need to get your priorities straight.

He is a cricketer that represents Pakistan and has helped Pakistan win games.

I hope he passes the exam, he will stay in the team if he performs. Stuff like this is uncalled for.

averaged in the 20s this series with the bat, but he will still stay

People want him to fail because they know he is always picked regardless of performance

 

[DRsohail]

hope he is banned....such an averae crickter.

 

[IAJ]

As Pakistan cricket fans should we wish him to pass the test, or the opposite?
I just heard what my heart whispered

If you were a true fan you would not even have asked this question. Of course you’d want him to clear it.

But if he is good enough to play for Pak or not, that is a different question and here the selectors have a responsibility.

 

[DRsohail]

Hafeez is a bit of an expert at deceiving ICC-accredited bio-mechanics experts.Will he be able do it again? I certainly hope so as we desperately need his bowling in LOI’s.

so u want him in the team despite knowing he is a cheat.

 

[FreePalestine]

any update on this? Test must have taken place yesterday

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

any update on this? Test must have taken place yesterday

takes a working week for the results to be annouced i think.

Last time he was banned it was around 10 days

 

[ManFan]

People defending Hafeez don't realize the damage he will cause to the ODI/T20 Team if he is cleared. He failed miserably in 5 ODI's against the ATG SL attack in the UAE where he made 3 centuries against them a few years ago. The next WC is in less than 2 years and we cant afford to have Malik and Hafeez in the same team. Malik and Hafeez both are accumulators but at least Malik can accelerate against medium-pace and spin. Hafeez refuses to play at #6 and this will cost him his place in the team. Mickey Arthur has been slowly building a team focused on youthful flare instead of senior experience. He will pounce on Hafeez when he gets the opportunity and if Haris is cleared, he will play in his place. Hafeez until the WC is 2 years of continuous torture as his batting does not merit a place in the XI.

 

[Abdullah719]

Hafeez undergoes bowling action test in England

Karachi, Nov 2 (PTI) Experienced allrounder, Muhammad Hafeez has undergone a biomechanics bowling test in England and will know in two weeks time whether he can continue to bowl in international cricket or faces another ban.

The 37-year-old Pakistan spinner was reported again for a suspect bowling action during the recent one-day series with Sri Lanka in the UAE.

It is the third time in his international career that his bowling action has been reported to the ICC by match officials.

The former Pakistan captain, in fact, had only resumed bowling again last December after completing a 12-month ban and getting his action cleared in Brisbane.

The ICC had banned Hafeez for a year from bowling in July, 2015 and before that also in December, 2014.

"Hafeez has undergone his latest bowling test at the Loughborough University biomechanics lab under the supervision of experts. He will know the results of the test in two weeks time. Until that time he can't bowl now," a board official said.

Hafeez told the Pakistani media that he had worked extensively on his bowling action after his ban in 2015.

"I am confident of clearing this test as it went well and I bowled four overs. I am sure I will be cleared to bowl again in international cricket. I myself want to contribute as an allrounder to the Pakistan team," Hafeez said.

He insisted that since modifying his bowling action he had made it a point to not try any new deliveries or change his action.

http://www.newindianexpress.com/pti...s-bowling-action-test-in-england-1690118.html

 

[DRsohail]

hope after hope that this guy is banned from bowling.utter disgrace..

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

if he is banned will it be one year or two years?

 

[Major]

hope after hope that this guy is banned from bowling.utter disgrace..

ur post is an utter disgrace

 

[DRsohail]

if he is banned will it be one year or two years?

the same question comes in my mind...and or it is like he can clear it whenever he wants??

 

[DRsohail]

ur post is an utter disgrace

how???? justify or i will justify mine.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

the same question comes in my mind...and or it is like he can clear it whenever he wants??

i know there is definitely a ban. I think it may be to years as this will (hopefully) be the third time he has been called

 

[finalfantasy7]

Forgot to mention my friend was with hafeez - picked him up and dropped him off, for the testing

I should have posted the news yesterday - he told me instantly

 

[Syed1]

Prof has begin to grow on me ever since that smashing innings in the CT final. He is playing alot more fluently and freely. I specially liked it when he played out a maiden of meethi bowling just to let Imam have a chance to get to his century.

Anyways if he does get banned for his bowling he won't be able to justify his place in the side and may have to be dropped.

 

[Bilal7]

Still waiting for the ICC to provide solid proof that Ashwin does not chuck.

Don't bother telling me that he doesn't because your eyes tell you he doesn't. Under the original guidelines for chucking the ball, 99% of bowlers were found to be chucking when the ICC decided to stop targeting individuals and did a faculty-wide testing.

 

[pkwdpassion]

The approach of Pakistan team management says a lot.

Hafeez was reported after the 3rd odi, Pakistan had won the series. Dwepite taking a huge squad there not one person was tried on his batting position. It is a very poor batting lineup, they are'nt giving any great performances anyway . Malik and Hafeez themselves know that they are way past their usefulness so they will occupy the team in any way they can. The onus is on the management. If Hafeez clears he should bat lower down, they are playing him as a bowler than treat him as one also. Try new talent.

 

[Abdullah719]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hafeez "test went well & I bowled some balls which according to me were bowled with a legal action so I'm hoping for a good result" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/926164226087051264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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[pakistanigoneaussie]

Prof has begin to grow on me ever since that smashing innings in the CT final. He is playing alot more fluently and freely. I specially liked it when he played out a maiden of meethi bowling just to let Imam have a chance to get to his century.

Anyways if he does get banned for his bowling he won't be able to justify his place in the side and may have to be dropped.

damn lost another poster to the Professor strain of Stockholm syndrome

 

[fawad_wellwisher]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hafeez "test went well & I bowled some balls which according to me were bowled with a legal action so I'm hoping for a good result" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/926164226087051264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 2, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Lol .... love the "according to me" part. Of course he is not going to bend his elbow during a test.

The only way for Hafeez now is to get a prosthetic attached to his right arm that will prevent him from bending his elbow!

 

[shaz619]

They should ban this cheat once and for all, he has a clean action but chucks when he feels like it and look how many times he has been recalled already, there must be a law out there right that if he is called again he should be banned even without a test ?

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Lol .... love the "according to me" part. Of course he is not going to bend his elbow during a test.

The only way for Hafeez now is to get a prosthetic attached to his right arm that will prevent him from bending his elbow!

all depends on how forcefull they are with him in trying to replicate his match action. It's telling they arent going to Chennai as normal to conduct the tests, i would have thought that would be cheaper.

 

[90MPH]

Carl crowe (the guy who helped remodel Hafeez action) reckons he will pass it.

I reckon he will as well tbh. Fair enough he was border line before his remodelled action but don't know what the fuss is now.

Let's wait for the results.

 

[Haz95]

Someone who's been called 3x is a cheater. First time round fair enough you're innocent till proven guilty, second is arguable but third? He deserves to fail and it would definitely be good for Pakistan cricket.

Hoping for the failure of a player whos presence is bad for the team, provides nothing for Pakistan beyond flash in the pan batting performances and cheating is understandable. The guy is a disgrace.

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Carl crowe (the guy who helped remodel Hafeez action) reckons he will pass it.

I reckon he will as well tbh. Fair enough he was border line before his remodelled action but don't know what the fuss is now.

Let's wait for the results.

he said the same thing last time

lets hope he is wrong again

 

[CricFan2012]

lol this chucker will bowl legally during the tests then go back to chucking a few games later.

He is a disgrace to Pakistan cricket and all of cricket in general, all proven chuckers are.

Should be tossed aside in the cheaters pile with Ajmal.

 

[Madplayer]

I hope Hafeez clears it but to be honest it is a bit embarrassing that he has been called 3 times now. I am not sure whether a player would get picked by any other team after being called 3 times for chucking.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

His margin of error on bending the elbow was little compared to AJMAL if I’m not wrong. He has mastered the art of threshold on chucking and not. He uses it wisely, when he is down and on the verge of getting dropped he brings his old action. In CT he wasn’t reported, this guy is a smart bloke he knows what he is doing. If he planned to play till 2019 CWC he will with his smartness.

 

[Ellipsism]

I hope Hafeez clears it but to be honest it is a bit embarrassing that he has been called 3 times now. I am not sure whether a player would get picked by any other team after being called 3 times for chucking.

It was visible he was chucking even from the naked eye. He shamelessly started to bowl his 70 km/h pies after being reported, which suggests he himself knows he was chucking.

Anyhow, I don't believe he'll be much of a loss at all. In Haris you have a high quality batsman and arguably one of the best in Pakistan and a spinner that gets a bit of purchase seeing that he imparts a lot of revs, in comparison to Hafeez. Yes, Haris won't be able to do the containing job that Hafeez manages to do so well, but Haris is more than capable of taking 3x the wickets.

 

[Madplayer]

It was visible he was chucking even from the naked eye. He shamelessly started to bowl his 70 km/h pies after being reported, which suggests he himself knows he was chucking.

Anyhow, I don't believe he'll be much of a loss at all. In Haris you have a high quality batsman and arguably one of the best in Pakistan and a spinner that gets a bit of purchase seeing that he imparts a lot of revs, in comparison to Hafeez. Yes, Haris won't be able to do the containing job that Hafeez manages to do so well, but Haris is more than capable of taking 3x the wickets.

Yes without his bowling, hafeez is useless for the team. Being 37 years of age doesnt help either. Pakistan won the champions trophy without much contribution from his bowling. All in all he should be replaced by Haris.

 

[MenInG]

Mohammad Hafeez can reinvent himself in a Misbah type role in our Test batting line-up.

 

[Hermoine Green]

Time to move on from him.

 

[InziRules]

This will be treated as a first offence by the ICC, even if banned.
Meaning all he has to do is pass the test with a new action in lab, which he already did before.

 

[Rudi hater]

India stopped selecting Ojha because he had started to chuck, and Ashwin's action is clean.

Yes just like Harbjhan's action is clean... lol

 

[Billa86]

I don't understand the point of this whole excercise. Surely when he is being test within the lab, he will ensure the elbow bend is within the limitation allowed so he is cleared of bowling. The whole process is flawed!

 

[OmaIR1]

Strictly as a batsman, Hafeez has no room in the ODI or T20 team.

 

[the Great Khan]

read the article. Its damning against the umpires and ICC inmho. How the umpires can see he is breaking the rules when the experts say there isnt much difference is beyond me. It seems he is on the radar becasue he was reported. So in effect if you havent been reported before the umpires wont bother keeping an eye on you..

 

[Mamoon]

Still waiting for the ICC to provide solid proof that Ashwin does not chuck.

Don't bother telling me that he doesn't because your eyes tell you he doesn't. Under the original guidelines for chucking the ball, 99% of bowlers were found to be chucking when the ICC decided to stop targeting individuals and did a faculty-wide testing.

Unfortunately, you will have to wait for the rest of your life. The umpires are under no obligation to report Ashwin if they don't feel that his action is suspect.

 

[Mamoon]

Yes just like Harbjhan's action is clean... lol

Harbhajan chucks, Ashwin doesn't.

 

[gani999]

Yes just like Harbjhan's action is clean... lol

Harbhajan's action is suspect, which is why he does not play international cricket wearing the India colours anymore.

The last thing the BCCI wants is to have an Indian player with illegal action exposed in an international series or tournament.

Say want you want about the BCCI, but they have a zero tolerance policy for any kind of indiscipline, and they enforce good behaviour with a big stick.

 

[MMHS]

My hunch is that Hafeez will pass the test. ICC isn't smart enough, neither powerful enough. Also, looks like PCB is in favor of MoHa, so they'll lobby at ICC for him.

This is a bit uncomfortable situation for the reputation of PCB and dignity of PAK as a major player in what has to be the smallest community of global sports. If it was his regular action, I could have given better marks that PCB is trying to protect one of it's players, who can't change his action at this age and cricket is his bread and butter.

But this guy is a reckless cheat - he can bowl with fair round-arm action, at least acceptable one; but he deliberately went for chucking when his spot and his team was in a tight corner, and his Captain/Coach/Selector had the support for that tactics - which is blunt disgraceful cheating.

PAK management could have easily avoided bowling with him much and give a clear instruction that don't try beyond your round-arm action, like they did in CT and ICC won't have intervened - guy could have played 2/3 more years in PLs & SLs as all-rounder to earn his bread. But, they couldn't resist (& that too, I must say against this SRL side), and which way it ends won't benefit PAK cricket, neither reputation.

I wish commonsense prevails in every corners holding stakes here.

 

[Syed1]

If his action is declared clean by ICC then PP experts should shut their traps.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Harbhajan was only suspect on his doosra. Even then he extended less than even hafeez. For off breaks and arm balls, he had a perfectly straight arm 99% of the time and he was effective with that.

 

[another drop catch]

Guys Harbhajan was chucking hence he was dropped ,Pragyan ohja was suspected he will not be selected but no way Ashwin is found to be chucking

 

[DRsohail]

My hunch is that Hafeez will pass the test. ICC isn't smart enough, neither powerful enough. Also, looks like PCB is in favor of MoHa, so they'll lobby at ICC for him.

This is a bit uncomfortable situation for the reputation of PCB and dignity of PAK as a major player in what has to be the smallest community of global sports. If it was his regular action, I could have given better marks that PCB is trying to protect one of it's players, who can't change his action at this age and cricket is his bread and butter.

But this guy is a reckless cheat - he can bowl with fair round-arm action, at least acceptable one; but he deliberately went for chucking when his spot and his team was in a tight corner, and his Captain/Coach/Selector had the support for that tactics - which is blunt disgraceful cheating.

PAK management could have easily avoided bowling with him much and give a clear instruction that don't try beyond your round-arm action, like they did in CT and ICC won't have intervened - guy could have played 2/3 more years in PLs & SLs as all-rounder to earn his bread. But, they couldn't resist (& that too, I must say against this SRL side), and which way it ends won't benefit PAK cricket, neither reputation.

I wish commonsense prevails in every corners holding stakes here.

no no....it will be worst scenario .

 

[Pete Rose]

I am sure by now there’s a regular entry in pcb annual expense report.
‘Allowance for hafeez action training and clearance’ x 3 per year.

 

[Syed1]

I am sure by now there’s a regular entry in pcb annual expense report.
‘Allowance for hafeez action training and clearance’ x 3 per year.

That would be minuscule compared to Sethi's 40+ fully expensed trips abroad in a year.

 

[Khan12]

Pathetic post. You need to get your priorities straight.

He is a cricketer that represents Pakistan and has helped Pakistan win games.

I hope he passes the exam, he will stay in the team if he performs. Stuff like this is uncalled for.

You need to get your priorities straight before me, there is no need for us to play a cheater like him. If we gave the amount of oppurtunities someone else insted of him, i am sure they would have doubled the amonut of matches Hafeez has won for us and perhaps could have scored some runs outside SC. Plus i hate hyprocites like him and we all know the reaons why he's in the team.