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Mohammad Hafeez undergoes bowling action test in England [Update Post #202]

You need to get your priorities straight before me, there is no need for us to play a cheater like him. If we gave the amount of oppurtunities someone else insted of him, i am sure they would have doubled the amonut of matches Hafeez has won for us and perhaps could have scored some runs outside SC. Plus i hate hyprocites like him and we all know the reaons why he's in the team.

Again, you didn't understand the point of my post. You are confusing a players ability vs. insulting him by saying that he shouldn't play and should fail the test. Why would you wish that on anyone?

He has won matches for Pakistan, can't call him a cheat because he was bowling and the ICC allowed him when called out went and rectified his action and came back. Leveling allegations of cheating on him are again going over the top.
 
Yes just like Harbjhan's action is clean... lol

Ashwin's action is the cleanest in world cricket. Anyone who says otherwise is demonstrating either an obvious bias or their ignorance or likely both
 
They should ban this cheat once and for all, he has a clean action but chucks when he feels like it and look how many times he has been recalled already, there must be a law out there right that if he is called again he should be banned even without a test ?

Shoaib Akhtar was also recalled many times
 
Again, you didn't understand the point of my post. You are confusing a players ability vs. insulting him by saying that he shouldn't play and should fail the test. Why would you wish that on anyone?

He has won matches for Pakistan, can't call him a cheat because he was bowling and the ICC allowed him when called out went and rectified his action and came back. Leveling allegations of cheating on him are again going over the top.

well said.

Hafeez' batting has irritated me throughout his career. And his stubbornness about dropping down the order. If he played in a Moeen Ali type role throughout his career and batted at 6 or 7, he would have won many more matches for Pak.

He has played some stunning innings in the UAE in tests and some good ODI innings (averaging low 30's). But he should bat lower down the order.
 
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The cheat may or may not slither his way out of trouble, but one thing is for certain. He will get suspended on an annual basis because he can't stop himself from selectively throwing the ball. I know we are very soft on our morally corrupt players and like to apologize for them, but Hafeez needs to be booted out for his cheating more than anything.
 
Look mamno bhai, you cant just call a player morally corrupt based on the asusmption that he "selectively throws the ball". No one has any evidence that he "selectively" chucks it. Hafeez has been one of the few seniors over the past couple years who has put the team performance over his individual gains and has strayed far away from controversy off the field. Calling him morally corrupt doesnt really align with his behaviour on or off the field.
 
The cheat may or may not slither his way out of trouble, but one thing is for certain. He will get suspended on an annual basis because he can't stop himself from selectively throwing the ball. I know we are very soft on our morally corrupt players and like to apologize for them, but Hafeez needs to be booted out for his cheating more than anything.

what are ur expectations from ICC this time about the cheat??
 
Repeat offenders need to be banned for multiple years. However, ICC have been very soft on him. I don't have high hopes.

ICC ko hamari cricket k behtari k liy ye qadam uthaana parhay ga warna hamar aamir sab is never going to drop this cheat.
 
well said.

Hafeez' batting has irritated me throughout his career. And his stubbornness about dropping down the order. If he played in a Moeen Ali type role throughout his career and batted at 6 or 7, he would have won many more matches for Pak.

He has played some stunning innings in the UAE in tests and some good ODI innings (averaging low 30's). But he should bat lower down the order.

One thing i do not understand why people think that he does not want to bat lower down the order. Does he make the decision? If team management does not want him to use lower down the order then it is not his fault.
 
Look mamno bhai, you cant just call a player morally corrupt based on the asusmption that he "selectively throws the ball". No one has any evidence that he "selectively" chucks it. Hafeez has been one of the few seniors over the past couple years who has put the team performance over his individual gains and has strayed far away from controversy off the field. Calling him morally corrupt doesnt really align with his behaviour on or off the field.

Team performance over individual gains? hahahaha

You have no idea how the Professor operates.
 
Team performance over individual gains? hahahaha

You have no idea how the Professor operates.

You cant really say i have no idea how the professor works without giving me relevant examples about your point. Give proper examples instead of laughing it off. He's much more selfless and a better team player than someone like afridi who has tried to hog the lime light time and time again.
 
You cant really say i have no idea how the professor works without giving me relevant examples about your point. Give proper examples instead of laughing it off. He's much more selfless and a better team player than someone like afridi who has tried to hog the lime light time and time again.

Are you new to reading PP? Just go through some of his threads man. It's been discussed to death.
 
One of the most shameless individuals to play for Pakistan and he needs to be booted out for good precisely for his tendency to be an outright cheat, while maintaining a gentleman-like public profile.

I don't wish to see him wear the green shirt again.

Why do you think he is shameless? He has played the game with dignity for as long as he has played. Last time i checked he hasnt really been involved in any corruption scandals which would label him as being "shameless" and a "cheat".
If he is cleared then i dont see why he shouldnt be in the team as an allrounder. He has the experience with the bat and ball and frankly he makes the team on merit solely based on how accurate he is with his bowling.
 
Are you new to reading PP? Just go through some of his threads man. It's been discussed to death.

I've been lurking on these forums for almost 3 years but just signed up recently. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but i dont think that hafeez fits in the category of selfish players that have plagued pak players over decades.
 
Why do you think he is shameless? He has played the game with dignity for as long as he has played. Last time i checked he hasnt really been involved in any corruption scandals which would label him as being "shameless" and a "cheat".
If he is cleared then i dont see why he shouldnt be in the team as an allrounder. He has the experience with the bat and ball and frankly he makes the team on merit solely based on how accurate he is with his bowling.

Chucking is not worse than fixing, but it is cheating nonetheless. He has been reported for his action thrice, which means that he is well aware of what he is doing. He has bowling for 15+ years now and he knows that his action is not clean, which is why he resorts to chucking every time he is under pressure to perform.

He doesn't merit a place in the team anymore, and he is only accurate with the ball when he chucks.
 
I fear he will play another couple of years after get ban this time.
 
In order for our ODI and T-20 team to do the best it can, it is imperative that we have the services of Hafeez the bowler who can provide with 10 guaranteed economical overs or 4 guaranteed economical overs with a bonus wicket or two hence providing further ammunition for the other bowlers to maintain pressure and to attack. This is literally the difference bw a 300 total and a 240 total
 
Hafeez told me earlier that the results are due to be announced tomorrow.
 
What do you think about the news - good, bad ?

half good but considering he will be applying for reassessement it makes no sense to ban him temporarily.but icc has been smart here and they will ban him 2 month before world cup and will destory our potential but if Micky has the balls and understands criket he should not allow this cheat again in the team.
 
half good but considering he will be applying for reassessement it makes no sense to ban him temporarily.but icc has been smart here and they will ban him 2 month before world cup and will destory our potential but if Micky has the balls and understands criket he should not allow this cheat again in the team.

Micky, a Level 4 professional coach with 15+ years of international experience in 4 continents, allowed him to do what he did in 1st 2 ODI against SRL, and Sarfraz obliged, before that he played MoHa at 3 dropping Babar at 4 fr his 29 @ 60 SR, in a match WI successfully chased 310 - do you think it's at Mickey's hand?
 
Micky, a Level 4 professional coach with 15+ years of international experience in 4 continents, allowed him to do what he did in 1st 2 ODI against SRL, and Sarfraz obliged, before that he played MoHa at 3 dropping Babar at 4 fr his 29 @ 60 SR, in a match WI successfully chased 310 - do you think it's at Mickey's hand?

GHQ RAWALPindi must be involved.
 
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