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Mohammad Rizwan "The criticism seems to be dying down a bit, so I must be doing something right"
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This series isn't insigificant at all though. It's actually crucial for Pakistan as a whole that we display a good brand of cricket and have a competitive series played in the right atmosphere.
The way Rizwan has performed in in this series is priceless. Pakistan has it's izzat back because of him.
Can you just imagine how bad the scorelines would be if Rizwan wasn't there and...*shudder*....we actually had the fat fixer in his place? England and the rest of the World would consider us a laughing stock and we wouldn't see England return for another 50 years.
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Literally the one guy who is performing is the one being criticized the most....He has his weaknesses but to axe him? In this team? You wont even cross a 100 as a team 50% of the times. He lost us the WT20 semi? He is probably the only reason we got to that semi in the first place. Same for the Asia cup probably. Criticism is okay but the hatred our main players get here is absurd.
This is a great point. He should use these series to try out different strategies to deal with his weaknesses. If he gets out, he gets out. This a prep series - do some prep.
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Exactly, its not Riz's job to cover the shortfall of others, he needs to play for maximum impact. This sort of mindset where he has to think about others failures is the mindset that Misbah supporters were spouting for years to protect their hero.
I thought we had moved on from this sort of minnow mentality.
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Rizwan is more than entitled to do that if he is the captain and is batting at 4
Not as a non/captain opener.
He is playing as an opener! He gets 6 overs to face where only 2 fielders are outside. He needs to utilise those 6 overs like a true powerplay opener, not some kind of Good Samaritan
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What I am showing is not some big revelation as everyone knows about it. But there it is, clear for all to see where he can make massive improvements to make use of the PP more.
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He’s been found out. He isn’t hurting the opposition at all
England have botched two easy chases tbh. But his fans will tell us that he is some kind of Brian Lara of T20 who is head and shoulders above all batsman on the same track
After being found out in these 5 matches has still has managed more t20 50s then sharjeel’s whole career in t20s. Let that sink in.
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Sharjeel is a team player. Players like Sharjeel don’t count 50s, like the Rizwan fans do.
We count 16 balls 30’s. We count momentum. We count impact. We count providing that push for the middle and lower order to carry on scoring. Not sucking the life out of the innings for our player’s 50
In this series alone Rizwan has won more t20s for Pakistan then sharjeel did. So much for the impact. Never have been a fan of rizwan but will support him against blind haters.
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16 ball 30s in 1 games and then 0, 5, 10 scores. Just rest it, you come off an someone who has never stepped on a cricket field. “He has been found out” lol and breaking every possible T20 record that probably no one will ever get close to
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Rizwan can score a 40 ball 50 every game for my team. With that kind to consistency, it’s the job of the rest of the lineup to make the remaining 80 balls count.
I don’t think we remember what our batting lineup was prior to Rizwan Babar. We were habitual 20 for 3, 30 for 4 team
I don’t think we remember what our batting lineup was prior to Rizwan Babar. We were habitual 20 for 3, 30 for 4 team
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Watch another sport man. Why are you wasting you time and energy watching something you don't understand at all? 30k+ posts to say this? It's time to retire.
Match 1: 68/46 SR 148. 1 opposition player with significant score surpasses SR (lower order). Loss
Match 2: 110/66 SR 166. 1 opposition player with significant score surpasses SR (middle order). Win
Match 3: Failure. Loss
Match 4: 88/67 SR131. 3 opposition players with significant scores surpass SR. Win
Match 5: 63/46 SR 137. 1 opposition player with significant score surpasses SR (138 for Moeen, lower order). Win
Seems to me Rizwan is your most important player. No other opener or even top order player in the series seems to have done better. His SR is healthy- not incredible but healthy and given his average & influence, it's a clear win.
He's only getting outstruck occasionally (and often not by much) but not by many and occasionally a lower order power/pinch hitter comes off, that's t20.
If other top order players from either side had got near him or even struck as fast as him, maybe people could criticise but they haven't.
Ducket has had a good series in the middle order. Doesn't mean Rizwan hasn't also played very well.
Match 2: 110/66 SR 166. 1 opposition player with significant score surpasses SR (middle order). Win
Match 3: Failure. Loss
Match 4: 88/67 SR131. 3 opposition players with significant scores surpass SR. Win
Match 5: 63/46 SR 137. 1 opposition player with significant score surpasses SR (138 for Moeen, lower order). Win
Seems to me Rizwan is your most important player. No other opener or even top order player in the series seems to have done better. His SR is healthy- not incredible but healthy and given his average & influence, it's a clear win.
He's only getting outstruck occasionally (and often not by much) but not by many and occasionally a lower order power/pinch hitter comes off, that's t20.
If other top order players from either side had got near him or even struck as fast as him, maybe people could criticise but they haven't.
Ducket has had a good series in the middle order. Doesn't mean Rizwan hasn't also played very well.
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Finally, some sense. Pakistani fans can be the most ungrateful bunch out of every fanbase in existence. They will go after the guy who is doing things right (albeit with some limitations) but those limitations pale in comparison to the duds contributing next to nothing game after game after game.
He is the least of our problems and the best wicketkeeper batsman in the country by a mile, and one of if not the best t20 keeper bat in the world atm.
Yup and the constant lying down due to cramp, injuries etc just adds to the sense of his “heroism” that his fans lap up to make him out to be some Lone Ranger.
I know yesterday he was genuinely injured, but every match he goes down with something or the other. It even prompted David Gower to comment “is he sponsored by a medical company?”!
And if he is genuinely struggling, then have a rest! This series should not only be about winning at all costs. Prepare for the World Cup and don’t kill yourself doing it. Preserve yourself for the big tournament. I would rest him now at least for the next match.
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Good to know Serbia and bulgeria plays cricket..
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Posters continue to make a fool of themselves...
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Strange that even wins mean nothing for people.
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It's astonishing.
People harp on about strike rates and Rizwan's inability at the top...
Yet they forget that just two games ago the two openers took Pakistan to a victory chasing 200.
If the wicket is good and conducive to scoring quickly both our openers do well. When the wicket is not so good, and almost all batsmen fail (including the opposition) they more often then not get us to a competitive total.
Every ounce of logic tells you that by removing Rizwan from the top will lead to more collapses which will result in failures. But why apply logic when you hold a personal grudge against someone?
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You cannot but appreciate his consistency. Dhoni level consistency when he started his career. He would somehow scrap around and make runs. Rizwan is a bit like that.
Lost game 1 but when your opener makes 68 @147 SR, he has done his job perfectly. It's the rest who didn't fire from his platform.
There's a few England players striking quicker than Rizwan. But no Pakistani's (Babar about the same). And the English striking quicker all have the luxury of middle order, shorter stays, bang a quick 20-30.
Why is the heat on the openers who are drastically outperforming their opposite numbers and not the middle order who are being drastically beaten by all their opposite numbers?
Englands middle & lower order crushing Pakistans who have contributed very little.
Rizwan is striking at 140 across the series. Slightly better than Gayles t20i SR. Some people will never be happy. Openers striking at 140 is not a problem. Not one little bit.
Why can't the middle order cash in? They have almost never had to rebuild or consolidate- they have had freedom to play. The question then should be is there a pinch hitter/floater to send in to maximise the platform? Some strategic flex to the batting order to capitalise on what is theoretically a perfect platform?
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I think there’s a legitimate question about his scoring areas. I was pretty worried when I saw England block up his scoring areas behind and on square leg. I’d like to see him be bolder in just finding gaps in the cover region. He doesn’t need to find boundaries, just hit those gaps. It’ll give bowlers something to think about and manoeuvre the field around. These are the games where you try out new strokes. He has to try it in this series, which means lesser than the world cup. Otherwise how will he ever have confidence in those strokes.
Good point
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Rana & Co. do not represent the 'Pakistani Fans'. Sorry.
Very very grateful to have Babar, Riz, Shaheen, Rauf, Shadab in this team.
I agree. Calling them fans while they hope players and the team fail so they can’t get a joy out of it.
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Because I don’t like Rizwan’s T20 opening so I am not a fan?
I was always right. Rizwan fans are not Pakistan fans
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Continued attempts to shutdown just to voice legitimate concerns or alternative point of view.
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Its not to do with liking or not liking Its the blind hate that spews from you all the time against him which is the issue and totally detracts from once in a while when you may have a relvant point
The whole team is failing bar rizwan whos carrying the batting on his shoulders but instead hes the issue and the problem?
You dont know how ridiculous you come across these days
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What blind hate? I will not be silenced for the wrong that I have seen! I am the last remaining voice of truth on this matter
One man, one player has totally unbalanced a perfectly competitive T20 side.
His failure in the middle order. Promoted to the top and is not playing T20 cricket as a proper T20 opener should, yet the entire team has gone to the dogs because of him.
This is the voice of truth. And the truth is, you people cannot handle the Truth! Hence now you label me as a traitor, a non representation of you!
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Why do you think that is?
Do you not think he knows how his star is fading and people are sick of his anchoring? I respect the fact that he has heard the criticism and has done something about it!
Because Babar likes the field being spread so he can pick up singles and doubles before he plays his shots and rizwan has a release shot and has more of a power game.
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you are just hating him, God knows for what ?
what if we bench him. who do you think is his replacement ?
you are just hating him, God knows for what ?
what if we bench him. who do you think is his replacement ?
Not a big fan of Rizwan but I l stand with him.
Failure is coming from middle or lower middle order.
Rizwan and Babar are doing a decent job.
Rizwan has been consistently good.
People complaining g about Rizwan also complained about Awais zia the hack.
Failure is coming from middle or lower middle order.
Rizwan and Babar are doing a decent job.
Rizwan has been consistently good.
People complaining g about Rizwan also complained about Awais zia the hack.
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By this logic Dhoni destroyed Indian team by promoting Rohit as opener since he was failing in the middle order. Atleast have some shame when you come with this nonsense
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We have won more games with Rizwan as an opener than any other side has in our history. Babar as a result has the best win percentage as captain lol.
Genuinely curious what was so competitive about our previous teams. Our 2009 winning team made par scores of 140, 130 and defended it with their supreme bowling
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Stick to playing Gully cricket
Look at the name and the quality of the player you are comparing Rizwan with
)Also, did Dhoni have a huge hole in his middle order to not consider before promoting Sharma to open??
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I feel sorry for those who criticize Rizwan all the time - the guy's like the Energizer bunny
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Some players have a ceiling. I have not watched ball by ball of every innings of his. So can't make comment. But clearly, people are divided on this. The tempo of his innings, Lack of acceleration skills are often called out by his detractors. This is where you need players who can complement each other. For every Amla you need an ABDV. For every Smith you need a Maxwell. Rightnow he has none. So his innings at times can look worse than it is.
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Some people will try to debate with a wall to achieve some sense of inner satisfaction.
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Smith used to have a very good accelerating game back till 2019. It's just that he isn't what he used to be. He was pretty good in LOIs till then with or without Maxwell.
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How long's he out for?
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Rohit was a failure before he was promoted to top. I don't think his rise has been no different than Riz. Just that he has played for much longer now. India too had a middle order problem since they were top heavy for long time (still are kinda). So by your logic we can say to Rohit to drop down as he is blocking place of Ishan kishan etc and being selfish.Stick to playing Gully cricket
Look at the name and the quality of the player you are comparing Rizwan with
Also, did Dhoni have a huge hole in his middle order to not consider before promoting Sharma to open??
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Congrats Rana, your boy Rizwan isn't playing today.
As a true fan, unlike you, I still hope that his replacement (Haris) plays really well and Pakistan wins!
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Without a doubt, I feel very happy. As if a massive burden has come off my shoulders. I feel like Jonny Depp winning his case against Amber Heard.
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Is Rizwan injured or being rested?
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Call me crazy but it didn’t feel like we batted better at all with Rizwan out. Except Babar the one guy who wouldn’t be anyway given he’s an opener too. Middle and lower order didn’t seem more free flowing that we were expecting.
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What does Rizwan put his fine form down to?
Pakistan opener Mohammad Rizwan...
"Some secrets you can't say in front of the camera but I always believe in hard work. I try to do more than every player, I always think like that."
Pakistan opener Mohammad Rizwan...
"Some secrets you can't say in front of the camera but I always believe in hard work. I try to do more than every player, I always think like that."
Correction Baba & Rizwan should bat till 20th over pathetic middle order cannot be trusted to play out 2 delivery’s, all hail Masoods half century today!!
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The one man run machine - doing his thing - again.
Pointless Rizwan innings following 1980's ODI template. 50 of 38 deliveries and 78 of 50 deliveries. He is putting everyone under pressure.
Time to stop saying that we should with happy with this because middle order isn't scoring, middle order isn't scoring because they are just not getting enough balls and being asked to play one in a 20 match type inning every single innings they bat.
You are out of your mind. Makes no sense.
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Even if he doesnt play Pakistan scores 160 to 170.
What difference does he make??
What difference does he make??
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Do you actually think we would have got to that score today?
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This is Bangladesh and these were the favourable conditions apparently
What’s the difference to his scores in UAE and Pakistan?
What’s the difference to his scores in UAE and Pakistan?
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The one match he didnt play Pakistan still got 170.
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Rizwan is the only consistent batter that’s doing well instead of blaming Babar,Ifti,Asif and Haider people blame him…
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One match is enough to justify that stat?
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The one match Rizwan didnt play Pakistan still scored 170.
Burden of proof is on you to prove if Rizwan doesnt play Pakistan crash to 120 all out.
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Then let him rest the entire series and get your proof.
But he will NEVER because it will be obvious Pakistan would not miss him.
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Rizwan is not ideal but he is not the biggest problem in the team. No 4 got exposed around after 12.5 overs. They had decent time to make an impact but couldn’t. They scored only 31 runs from 23 balls.
Teams are dependent on finishers like Miller, Tim David, hadrik, Livingstone and Moeen Ali. They don’t need 100 balls to make an impact.
At least Rizwan is a WK batsman, he can be excused due to lack of options. Babar can not be forgiven primarily because he is a pure batsman, he needs to up his game and show more intent.
Teams are dependent on finishers like Miller, Tim David, hadrik, Livingstone and Moeen Ali. They don’t need 100 balls to make an impact.
At least Rizwan is a WK batsman, he can be excused due to lack of options. Babar can not be forgiven primarily because he is a pure batsman, he needs to up his game and show more intent.
And England chased it down in 14 overs. Playing conditions matter a lot.
The previous game Rizwan 63 helped us post 145 and defend it.
Without Rizwan this team will struggle to post even 150 consistently.
Yes they need to break opening combo and play an explosive opener. Babar should play at 3 he can do no worse than Shan at that position
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Babar played a very similar innings to Rizwan and the middle order & lower middle order flopped. It was a similar pattern .
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Babar shouldnt open either.
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I feel Rizwan can open till we find decent replacement for him(WK batsman). Babar should not open
Fakhar opening will not solve the lack of quality finishers
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Hagley Oval, since 2006, 69 T20 have been played here and the average score is 160. The highest chase by any international team is 154 by England.
We scored 167 thanks to Rizwan.
Please take this L today and sit quietly, you have absolutely no clue
That's because Babar got 87 there the one match both failed we got 142 last time I checked 142 is 15 percent lower then 170.
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That is your sample size?
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You seem to do a lot of research for every ground Rizwan features on
This is a below par score on a road and against one of the weakest attacks in world cricket. But it’s a standard Rizwan knock
He makes no difference whatsoever
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