Mohammad Rizwan v Travis Head: who is the best all format batter of the world?

[gazza619]

There is no solution

Only absolution

Rizwan is the absolute. Head has a poor away Test record

Back to blabbering when facts are against you

 

[Rana]

Back to blabbering when facts are against you

What’s the problem now? I’m saying exactly what you said or want to say in favour of Rizwan? You should be appreciating not hating.

 

[mominsaigol]

Travis Head has a poor away test record

This automatically qualifies Rizwan as the GOAT all format player!

@Major Claimed rizwan is the 2nd greatest odi batsmen for pakistan all time after Babar. He won't reply to this

To put into perspective it's cause pakistan just doesn't have a 50 avg batter so rizwan >> Lara because avg and Sr are same across one ball and 2 ball eras according to Misbah fans.

Only pakistani fans can claim that a barely 40 avg batter in odi who's probably gonna drop to 39 to 38 avg in 2025 with only 3 centuries in nearly 10 years of playing international cricket with 2 of those centuries being achieved against c string Australia on pindi flat tracks in losing causes, is now suddenly crowned as Pakistan's 2nd greatest odi batsmen.

Rizwan > Inzi, Miandad, yousaf, Saeed, Ijaz and God knows who else.

If rizwan is pakistan's 2nd greatest odi player then pakistan shpuld ask ICC to rennounce their membership status

 

[Rana]

@Major Claimed rizwan is the 2nd greatest odi batsmen for pakistan all time after Babar. He won't reply to this message cause I'll smoke him on this topic

To put into perspective it's cause pakistan just doesn't have a 50 avg batter so rizwan >> Lara because avg and Sr are same across one ball and 2 ball eras according to Misbah fans.

Only pakistani fans can claim that a barely 40 avg batter in odi who's probably gonna drop to 39 to 38 avg in 2025 with only 3 centuries in nearly 10 years of playing international cricket with 2 of those centuries being achieved against c string Australia on pindi flat tracks in losing causes, is now suddenly crowned as Pakistan's 2nd greatest odi batsmen.

Rizwan > Inzi, Miandad, yousaf, Saeed, Ijaz and God knows who else.

If rizwan is pakistan's 2nd greatest odi player then pakistan shpuld ask ICC to rennounce their membership status

Major sab is one of the modern cricket analysts who know how to appropriate Rizwan to the current context of international cricket MashaAllah

 

[mominsaigol]

Major sab is one of the modern cricket analysts who know how to appropriate Rizwan to the current context of international cricket MashaAllah

Anytime babar and rizwan fans see a good game of cricket being played by these 2 all of the sudden we hear arguments such as

Rizwan and Babar are > Travis head
Rizwan and Babar are top 1 and 2 greatest odi players for pakistan all time
Rizwan is the greatest wicket keeper batsmen of all time

And God knows what else.

Like bhai, just enjoy the game? I support babar in odi alot, and I'm super happy that he's finally getting some form back. But these fans make me hate babar because of all this overglorification.

Babar is a latham level batter and in context that's a good addition to the pakistan team.

No need to act like he's international class againat people like Butler, Travis who are leagues >

 

[Rana]

Anytime babar and rizwan fans see a good game of cricket being played by these 2 all of the sudden we hear arguments such as

Rizwan and Babar are > Travis head
Rizwan and Babar are top 1 and 2 greatest odi players for pakistan all time
Rizwan is the greatest wicket keeper batsmen of all time

And God knows what else.

Like bhai, just enjoy the game? I support babar in odi alot, and I'm super happy that he's finally getting some form back. But these fans make me hate babar because of all this overglorification.

Babar is a latham level batter and in context that's a good addition to the pakistan team.

No need to act like he's international class againat people like Butler, Travis who are leagues >

Fair is fair bro, the Rizwan+Babar fans have suffered a lot of torment recently. They have been pulverised. They have lost their confidence, belief and trust in cricket. They have not been able to make sense of anything. Every argument they have presented in favour of them is shot down within seconds. It’s not like how it was in 2021. What’s unfortunate for them is people have woken up.

I guess if a few weeks/months/matches of rejoice are there, let them have it. You know it and so do I, chaar din ki chandi, phir andheri raat.


Let them feel like themselves when they can, they have suffered too much.

 

[Kianig89]

Head is the best, but Rizwan the captain is doing very good add to it he is scoring some runs , hopefully he will go from strength to strength

 

[mominsaigol]

Fair is fair bro, the Rizwan+Babar fans have suffered a lot of torment recently. They have been pulverised. They have lost their confidence, belief and trust in cricket. They have not been able to make sense of anything. Every argument they have presented in favour of them is shot down within seconds. It’s not like how it was in 2021. What’s unfortunate for them is people have woken up.

I guess if a few weeks/months/matches of rejoice are there, let them have it. You know it and so do I, chaar din ki chandi, phir andheri raat.


Let them feel like themselves when they can, they have suffered too much.

In terms of pure talent, Babar is just a latham, Labu, will young, Alex Carey level odi batsmen. Don't get me wrong it's good since pakistan has had to deal with rubbish like maqsood, shehzad etc over the years.

Having someone like Labu is a god send for a team like pakistan.

the proper talents for pakistan which sadly were wasted were fakhar zaman who while onsong is no less then the likes of Warner, Qdk, Travis etc however due to inconsistency, Drops and pcb propaganda he doesn't reach their status. Talent wise he's up their.

Saim ayub is another who can reach their status as well since talent wise he is in that class.

Haris sohail was another one who if handled well could have reached eoin Morgan level caliber as a player.

The rest aren't that good however. As while saud and kamran are improvements over some, they aren't haris sohail level in talent.

Rizwan on the other hand is essentially a bavuma or Dean foxcroft level batter in odi

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Back to blabbering when facts are against you

Always. Kaptaana and King have hurt them, Pakistan's wins are hurting them. Let them hurt more. Hopefully big 3 of Babar, Riz and Ayub will lead Pak to a CT win in Lahore and these guys will vanish forever.

 

[jamie smith fan]

In terms of pure talent, Babar is just a latham, Labu, will young, Alex Carey level odi batsmen. Don't get me wrong it's good since pakistan has had to deal with rubbish like maqsood, shehzad etc over the years.

Having someone like Labu is a god send for a team like pakistan.

the proper talents for pakistan which sadly were wasted were fakhar zaman who while onsong is no less then the likes of Warner, Qdk, Travis etc however due to inconsistency, Drops and pcb propaganda he doesn't reach their status. Talent wise he's up their.

Saim ayub is another who can reach their status as well since talent wise he is in that class.

Haris sohail was another one who if handled well could have reached eoin Morgan level caliber as a player.

The rest aren't that good however. As while saud and kamran are improvements over some, they aren't haris sohail level in talent.

Rizwan on the other hand is essentially a bavuma or Dean foxcroft level batter in odi

can bauma or foxcroft score 131 in a wc???

 

[jamie smith fan]

Head is the best, but Rizwan the captain is doing very good add to it he is scoring some runs , hopefully he will go from strength to strength

head and riz is no comparision riz is a wk bat whil head is a proper bat,riz should be compared with carey,jamie smith,pant,latham,blundelletc

 

[Mamoon]

not in Test matches... Carey is more reliable!

No Australian keeper of the last 15 years (post Gilchrist) has been better than Rizwan in any format. Rizwan walks into any post 2008 Australian team in any format.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

No Australian keeper of the last 15 years (post Gilchrist) has been better than Rizwan in any format. Rizwan walks into any post 2008 Australian team in any format.

Excluding Healy and Gilchrist, I would make that all time actually.

 

[mominsaigol]

can bauma or foxcroft score 131 in a wc???

Bavuma can 100%. That 131 is an outlier innings. Imam has a 151 vs England. Umar akmal has 102 not out vs Afghanistan when Pakistan was 50-4 chasing 220 etc etc.

Outliers exiat for any player.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

With all due respect, Rizwan would never find a place in the Australian dugout, mainly because their not looking at things like you are.

Carrey and Inglis are impact players, inglis especially, his 100 againat Ireland is > What rizwan can feasibly play and while inglis isn't a proper batter in that sense, theirs a reason he bats at no 7 for Australia and complements them well at that no.

No 1,2 3, 4 and 5 is reserved for Marsh/Smith/Jake Fraser/travis/Maxwell/labu.

In no universe would rizzu be allowed any of these numbers beyond no 7 as he doesn't replace any of these guys and unfortunately his style of play is not suitable for that no 7 slot, to top it off he averages 11 at no 7.

Meanwhile Travis replaces any opener in pakistan no question.

Seriously with a future 11 of

1) Travis Head
2) Jake Fraser
3) Marsh
4 ) Steve smith
5) Labu
6) Maxwell

^^ Where do you think rizwan fits in this?

Any opener?

I would take Fakhar & Saim over head without question.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Any opener?

I would take Fakhar & Saim over head without question.

Head doesn't open in tests to start with.

Just because he s scored a few hundred s against an average indian attack besides bumrah and enjoys bashing them doesn't make him the best thing since slice bread.

He s got 9 test hundreds in 53 Tests at 31 years of age.

3 against the indians , 2 against the english , 1 against the kiwis and the other 3 are against the weaker tests sides in Sri lanka (1) and west indies (2).

 

[gazza619]

Riz had an ordinary test.
Head had an ordinary test.

Despite an ordinary test, Riz still contributed massively with the gloves by taking 6 good catches.

This thread is laughable to say the least.

What next…..“who has the better moustache”?

 

[emranabbas]

Anytime babar and rizwan fans see a good game of cricket being played by these 2 all of the sudden we hear arguments such as

Rizwan and Babar are > Travis head
Rizwan and Babar are top 1 and 2 greatest odi players for pakistan all time
Rizwan is the greatest wicket keeper batsmen of all time

And God knows what else.

Like bhai, just enjoy the game? I support babar in odi alot, and I'm super happy that he's finally getting some form back. But these fans make me hate babar because of all this overglorification.

Babar is a latham level batter and in context that's a good addition to the pakistan team.

No need to act like he's international class againat people like Butler, Travis who are leagues >

Babars biggest enemies are his own fans with all this over glorifying stuff. When fans are going to make tall claims about babar and there is no perfomance to back it up, its obvious going to be question asks that's when they don't like it and label you a hater.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Aesthetically tough competition between the two.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Anytime babar and rizwan fans see a good game of cricket being played by these 2 all of the sudden we hear arguments such as

Rizwan and Babar are > Travis head
Rizwan and Babar are top 1 and 2 greatest odi players for pakistan all time
Rizwan is the greatest wicket keeper batsmen of all time

And God knows what else.

Like bhai, just enjoy the game? I support babar in odi alot, and I'm super happy that he's finally getting some form back. But these fans make me hate babar because of all this overglorification.

Babar is a latham level batter and in context that's a good addition to the pakistan team.

No need to act like he's international class againat people like Butler, Travis who are leagues >

Don't forget king Boucher .

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Any opener?

I would take Fakhar & Saim over head without question.

Bhai Head has won the World Cup on his own. What have Fakhar and Saim achieved yet?

 

[mominsaigol]

Babars biggest enemies are his own fans with all this over glorifying stuff. When fans are going to make tall claims about babar and there is no perfomance to back it up, its obvious going to be question asks that's when they don't like it and label you a hater.

I genuinely feel for Babar but it is kinda his own fault as well. I mean he himself promoted this agenda in the first place?

Like have you ever seen Steve smith call himself the test king and greatest test player of this era?

Steve smith is literally top 5 test players of all time. His prime is a monster with him avg 70 to 86 year by year, yet he never overglorified himself.

Even Indian players don't overglorify themselves, yes Indian fans do which is annoying but the players themselves don't.

In babar's case he himself created his own marketing hype and started calling himself the Bradman of the modern era.

Babar and Shai Hope are the 2 biggest cons of odi cricket in the modern era however atleast west Indies cricket fans aren't pretending that shai hope is >>>> Lara or Viv like pakistani fans pretend that Babar is > Yousaf, inzi or saeed when he isn't even in bootlickin distance of those 2

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Bhai Head has won the World Cup on his own. What have Fakhar and Saim achieved yet?

Fakhar won CT 17.

Short memories.

 

[mominsaigol]

Don't forget king Boucher .

Boucher is still a better batsmen then rizwan and I stand by it.

Babar, Rizwan, Shai Hope and kane Williamson (In test cricket) are the 4 biggest cin artists of this era.

However in williamsons's case he is still a good test player and no one overglorifies him, he himself doesn't believe his stats are reflective and are on kallis tier.

Same case with shai Hope, no one believes he's > Lara or Viv despite avg 49-50 with 17 odi centuries.

Babar and rizwan fans are delusional beyond belief.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I genuinely feel for Babar but it is kinda his own fault as well. I mean he himself promoted this agenda in the first place?

Like have you ever seen Steve smith call himself the test king and greatest test player of this era?

Steve smith is literally top 5 test players of all time. His prime is a monster with him avg 70 to 86 year by year, yet he never overglorified himself.

Even Indian players don't overglorify themselves, yes Indian fans do which is annoying but the players themselves don't.

In babar's case he himself created his own marketing hype and started calling himself the Bradman of the modern era.

Babar and Shai Hope are the 2 biggest cons of odi cricket in the modern era however atleast west Indies cricket fans aren't pretending that shai hope is >>>> Lara or Viv like pakistani fans pretend that Babar is > Yousaf, inzi or saeed when he isn't even in bootlickin distance of those 2

When did Babar call himself Bradman of the modern era. Please share a link.

That's a crazy statement to make I'm surprised I missed it.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

Boucher is still a better batsmen then rizwan and I stand by it.

Babar, Rizwan, Shai Hope and kane Williamson (In test cricket) are the 4 biggest cin artists of this era.

However in williamsons's case he is still a good test player and no one overglorifies him, he himself doesn't believe his stats are reflective and are on kallis tier.

Same case with shai Hope, no one believes he's > Lara or Viv despite avg 49-50 with 17 odi centuries.

Babar and rizwan fans are delusional beyond belief.

No one believes head is sobers level because he s bashed around the indians but you and your ilk do.

 

[Rana]

Aesthetically tough competition between the two.

Rizwan is more elegant. Shades of Ian Bell and Jayawardane

 

[mominsaigol]

No one believes head is sobers level because he s bashed around the indians but you and your ilk do.

No i don't believe that and I never claimed it. The only time I claimed Travis > Kohli and Sachin was to annoy @jeeteshssaxena because he along with other Indian posters frequently insult Travis cause they can't handle the fact that Travis head has made them feel as helpless as Mattew hayden once did.

Travis is in the class of gilchirst and Warner however the issue is, he probs won't be remembered as much mainly cause he started his career late. Hence he'll retire with a similar avg to those 2 and a higher sr, but he won't reach their century tally.

He just like Warner is mostly a htb in test cricket and in odi and t20 he is a goat player but sadly he doesn't have the time to reach their cemtury and runs tally.

Talent wise Travis is = Gilly and Warner.

Only delusional fans can put someone like saim ayub or fakhar Zaman > Travis, let alone even lesser and more rubbish players like rizwan > Travis.

 

[mominsaigol]

When did Babar call himself Bradman of the modern era. Please share a link.

That's a crazy statement to make I'm surprised I missed it.

Ramiz raja said so. Babar didn't claim it however Babar was literally allowing ramiz to run his campaigns and PR when he was chairman.

He knew full well what ramiz was doing. Infact in test cricket he was personally visiting grounds and checking how pitches were curated to inflate his test avg.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Ramiz raja said so. Babar didn't claim it however Babar was literally allowing ramiz to run his campaigns and PR when he was chairman.

He knew full well what ramiz was doing. Infact in test cricket he was personally visiting grounds and checking how pitches were curated to inflate his test avg.

Oh right. You are stretching things a lot recently. Big difference between Babar saying something and Rmaiz

 

[mominsaigol]

Oh right. You are stretching things a lot recently. Big difference between Babar saying something and Rmaiz

Bro "He himself created his own marketing hype"

^^ It would entail he ran his pr campaigns.

Obviously babar or any player isn't gonna go on media and say the words "I am the Bradman of this era "

What's funny is that rizwan verbatim agreed with a tweet from Hasan Ali who called him "The t20 Bradman of thos era" and rizwan liked it and retweeted it .

Bas ais ki kami rahe gi hai.

 

[Rana]

Riz had an ordinary test.
Head had an ordinary test.

Despite an ordinary test, Riz still contributed massively with the gloves by taking 6 good catches.

How did Rizwan have an ordinary Test? His 3 runs in the second innings could have been the big difference between 1-0 Pakistan. Pakistan picked up 3 wickets for 4 runs, all they needed was 2 wickets!

 

[shaz619]

I mean I'm from Lahori origin as well and I don't defend any lahori cricketer.

If a good player emerged from lahore I'll support him. Infact Babar is from lahore and still lives in Lahore and I don't support him at all.

I only like Babar in odi, however even then I view him as just an okay odi batter. He's honestly nothing special even in his prime in odi? He's really just shai hope level in odi and rubbish in t20 and test cricket

There are some posters who have said Rizwan is mainly criticised because he’s not from the Punjab lol and that he would have a bigger following otherwise

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

No i don't believe that and I never claimed it. The only time I claimed Travis > Kohli and Sachin was to annoy @jeeteshssaxena because he along with other Indian posters frequently insult Travis cause they can't handle the fact that Travis head has made them feel as helpless as Mattew hayden once did.

Travis is in the class of gilchirst and Warner however the issue is, he probs won't be remembered as much mainly cause he started his career late. Hence he'll retire with a similar avg to those 2 and a higher sr, but he won't reach their century tally.

He just like Warner is mostly a htb in test cricket and in odi and t20 he is a goat player but sadly he doesn't have the time to reach their cemtury and runs tally.

Talent wise Travis is = Gilly and Warner.

Only delusional fans can put someone like saim ayub or fakhar Zaman > Travis, let alone even lesser and more rubbish players like rizwan > Travis.

If someone believes Boucher was better than Riz and creates fake stats to do it is not only delusional and disingenuous but it shows the character of the individual and their hate.

Anyone who hate s any player personally and goes out their way to malign them is no Pakistani supporter and cant be taken seriously.

Any constructive criticisms and expressing opinions is what forums like this should be all about.

I've already dissected head s career and what's been established is he loves bashing indians and struggles against Pakistan in Tests.

Head v Pakistan 295 runs in 10 Tests with an average of 22.69 and a highest score of 72 at a strike rate of 53.24. facts.

 

[gazza619]

How did Rizwan have an ordinary Test? His 3 runs in the second innings could have been the big difference between 1-0 Pakistan. Pakistan picked up 3 wickets for 4 runs, all they needed was 2 wickets!

What are you trying to prove here?

 

[mominsaigol]

If someone believes Boucher was better than Riz and creates fake stats to do it is not only delusional and disingenuous but shows the character of the individual and their hate.

Anyone who hate s any player personally and goes out their way to malign them is no Pakistani supporter and cant be taken seriously.

Any constructive criticisms and expressing opinions is what forums like this should be all about.

I've already dissected head s career and what's been established is he loves bashing indians and struggles against Pakistan in Tests.

Head v Pakistan 295 runs in 10 Tests with an average of 22.69 and a highest score of 72 at a strike rate of 53.24. facts.

What fake stats did i create? I verbatim said he avg 50+ at no 4 and showed it on howstat? How is that a fabrication when it's written piece of information

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

What fake stats did i create? I verbatim said he avg 50+ at no 4 and showed it on howstat? How is that a fabrication when it's written piece of information

I showed you that was the epic Zimbabwe knock he played not his overall batting average at 4.

 

[Rana]

What are you trying to prove here?

I’m proving that Rizwan’s contributions are worth gold. Whatever he does can and will be the difference. His 3 runs on such a deck gave Pakistan 3 runs of a passage where they picked up 4 wickets!

 

[mominsaigol]

Shaz, if Rizwan was from Lahore or Karachi, he would be recognised as the ultimate Pakistani since 1947.

There is a clear agenda to bring him down because he is not from those two big cities. It’s his only crime.

He'd be a much better player if he was actually born in these cities.

For all their criticism I have personally seen young kids aged 11 to 15 play at gym khana cricket grounds all dressed in professional uniform with professional coaches and umpires.

Their techniques are ironed out properly and they go through alot of grit and determination.

That's why typically Pakistani players from karachi are the best cause if you look at saim ayub, Saud shakeel etc they have excellent techniques and also play unorthodox and innovative strokes, Something that no one else from any other city does.

Saim is 22/23 and his technique is more compact then 90% of the bench strength and playing 11.

Shan is an exception but that's because he's mostly a UK/Pakistani citizen. Ik he isn't a national, but most of his education comes from their. Ran away from UK cause frankly he wouldn't survive in their system.

 

[mominsaigol]

I showed you that was the epic Zimbabwe knock he played not his overall batting average at 4.

Your trolling yourself now.

Sort it out.

What does Boucher avg at no 4 sr and avg wise. Say the numbers. Right now.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

What does Boucher avg at no 4 sr and avg wise. Say the numbers. Right now.

Look at the posts where I have shown the stats.

You conveniently missed out the other 6 innings stats next to the one you wrote.

Go look it up.

 

[gazza619]

Rizwan’s contributions are worth gold.

agreed.

 

[mominsaigol]

Look at the posts where I have shown the stats.

You conveniently missed out the other 6 innings stats next to the one you wrote.

Go look it up.

No, answer this what are his stats avg and sr wise at no 4. Answer right now

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

No, answer this what are his stats avg and sr wise at no 4. Answer right now

You conceded at the time when your fake stats were exposed and now your twisting and turning again to no avail.

You made the claim on boucher therefore the onus is on you to back it up.

Simple.

If you cant manage it get one of your boys to help you out.

I'm sure if you ask nicely they will jump at the chance to go against Riz.

 

[mominsaigol]

You conceded at the time when your fake stats were exposed and now your twisting and turning again to no avail.

You made the claim on boucher therefore the onus is on you to back it up.

Simple.

If you cant manage it get one of your boys to help you out.

I'm sure if you ask nicely they will jump at the chance to go against Riz.

Back it up? I just showed stats at no 4 and their already listed on howstat .

I'll ask again, Whats bouchers stats at no 4, go check howstat and then come back to me.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

You conceded at the time when your fake stats were exposed and now your twisting and turning again to no avail.

You made the claim on boucher therefore the onus is on you to back it up.

Simple.

If you cant manage it get one of your boys to help you out.

I'm sure if you ask nicely they will jump at the chance to go against Riz.

1.5 posters have an agenda against Rizwan. My suspicion is that these 1.5 people have Indian links. Rizwan is a wicket keeper of course he won't have stats like Brian Lara lol...Head is a good player but a HTB so far with 0 centuries in tests in the opposition's den. He is the perfectly tullaybaaz and has basically only been successful vs home against India (especially against bowlers not named Bhumrah).

Rizwan has his flaws but when people have to twist stats you know he is doing well.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Oh right. You are stretching things a lot recently. Big difference between Babar saying something and Rmaiz

Stretching? He clearly mentions that Babar himself started calling himself that. That's slander pure and simple and outright lying.

 

[Major]

You conceded at the time when your fake stats were exposed and now your twisting and turning again to no avail.

You made the claim on boucher therefore the onus is on you to back it up.

Simple.

If you cant manage it get one of your boys to help you out.

I'm sure if you ask nicely they will jump at the chance to go against Riz.

I dont know about the fake stats story. Elaborate or tag me there plź, this gotta be funny

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

In babar's case he himself created his own marketing hype and started calling himself the Bradman of the modern era.

Please prove it. This is a big claim. @BouncerGuy @MenInG i understand having opinions but it should be against the rules to claim something like this about a player of Babar's stature with no proof?

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

1.5 posters have an agenda against Rizwan. My suspicion is that these 1.5 people have Indian links. Rizwan is a wicket keeper of course he won't have stats like Brian Lara lol...Head is a good player but a HTB so far with 0 centuries in tests in the opposition's den. He is the perfectly tullaybaaz and has basically only been successful vs home against India (especially against bowlers not named Bhumrah).

Rizwan has his flaws but when people have to twist stats you know he is doing well.

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There is no doubt they think any batter that scores against the indians is bradman or sobers esque which shows their cricket capacity.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

I dont know about the fake stats story. Elaborate or tag me there plź, this gotta be funny

Basically boucher has played 6 innings batting at 4 in ODI s.

In 1 particular match he scored 140 odd versus Zimbabwe which boosted his average against them to 40 odd and he highlighted this as his overall career average at 4.

The other innings were scores of 0 , 14 , 27 and a few others if I remember correctly of the top of my head.

Anyone can go on cric stat and check those 6 innings with 2 against Zimbabwe.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

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No real supporter of Pakistan cricket would make personal attacks against any player.

These forums are designed for supporters to offer their opinions and make constructive criticisms.

Any player that does well is a credit to the country.

With Riz winning in Aus and SA it has confused the narrative for them now they have to get personal and create random stats or matchups to make themselves feel better.

Wasim Bari was the best out and out keeper Pakistan has ever produced from listening to people in the know.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Imagine Rizwan doing that Travis head celebration lol

 

[mominsaigol]

Basically boucher has played 6 innings batting at 4 in ODI s.

In 1 particular match he scored 140 odd versus Zimbabwe which boosted his average against them to 40 odd and he highlighted this as his overall career average at 4.

The other innings were scores of 0 , 14 , 27 and a few others if I remember correctly of the top of my head.

Anyone can go on cric stat and check those 6 innings with 2 against Zimbabwe.

Again lies, I asked what were vouchers stats at 4. Again list them right here and right now

 

[BouncerGuy]

Please stay on topic. Do not turn it into a rizwan chat

 

[Ab Fan]

Rizwan is better, he is a keeper batsman who averages 41.

Head is a specialist batsman who averages 43.

I will choose the former.

Note :- I learnt this coming from Pant’s thread. This is not my opinion.

 

[Ted123]

Head is a game changer and a genuine match winner but not as consistent.

Rizwan is a consistent run scorer and a good keeper batter but not someone you would fear of taking the game away.

It’s two different batsmen and comparing them is tough.

Head vs Pant or Rizwan vs Pant would make more sense.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Head is a game changer and a genuine match winner but not as consistent.

Rizwan is a consistent run scorer and a good keeper batter but not someone you would fear of taking the game away.

It’s two different batsmen and comparing them is tough.

Head vs Pant or Rizwan vs Pant would make more sense.

Head is a game changer only when he is playing in Australia and only when the openers have seen off the tough conditions. Biggest FTB and HTB of all time. If he had to wicket keep and bat like Rizwan, he wouldn't average more than 20.

 

[Rana]

A gritty 50 against West Indies

Head would have got out for 0

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

A gritty 50 against West Indies

Head would have got out for 0

If it was in Pakistan he would not have crossed 20s as his average in Pakistan is in the 20s, like the HTB he is.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

A gritty 50 against West Indies

Head would have got out for 0

I want you to admire Rizwan at least once in your life.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Two champions batting right at the same time across the border in two different leagues

 

[Bhaijaan]

Rizwan won the battle today with a belligerent century while Travis bhai is playing second fiddle to young Abhishek Sharma right now