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Mohammad Rizwan v Travis Head: who is the best all format batter of the world?

topspin said:
Younis Khan averaged 50+ with a strike rate of 140 (almost identical to Shahid Afridi) in Pakistan's 2009 WT20 winning campaign. His captaincy was exceptional.

He has produced multiple standout ODI knocks that eclipse Babar’s finest effort, his 2019 World Cup century against New Zealand.

Stop talking out of your backside.
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Relevance of the bolded?

One century in world cup is the entirety of your stand out YK knocks?

Think you need to take your advice as per the last sentence.
 
Raja Ishtiaq said:
Younis Khan was a terrible ODI player.

Can't believe this argument is taking place lol
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He was not a “terrible” ODI player. You don’t have a clue what you are talking about. Let it go. Even with an average of 31 during the era he played in, he is a superior batsman to Rizwan and Misbah in One Day cricket. His skills were far superior to both.
 
Rana said:
*im going to have to break character here for a bit

@topspin bro, you need not waste time with these covid/Misbah’s najaiz cricket fans when discussing the standards of cricket during the eras. Younis Khan in Test cricket has played some of the unreal innings that guys like Babar+Rizwan will never play even as a combined entity.
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That was an excellent read. I’m fully in agreement with you—your call that the Babar v Khawaja debate was a pointless exercise has been vindicated yet again by this group of ignoramuses.

The Misbah/Babar/Rizwan cult is unbearable and remains the main reason the quality of this forum has declined.

Rana said:
Some of his ODI innings were elite too. When he was on, the guy was an absolute delight to watch. I firmly believe he was on course to become Pakistan’s solid number 3 who set the pace and tempo of the innings around the 2007-8 time (maybe even before it). I remember back then I was in total awe of players like Ponting because they were setting the tempo for their side by bossing it at 3. Punter always batted at a strike rate close to a hundred. He never really celebrated a 50, it wasn’t job done for him. He had that attitude. I wanted a player like that for Pakistan and for brief moments I thought YK was easing into this role.
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Babar fans act as if we’ve forgotten, but anyone who watched cricket in the 2000s knows Younis produced far more innings that outshine Babar’s best effort in the 2019 World Cup. That’s exactly why they fall silent whenever this point is raised.

Ponting was a joy to watch. He made that 2003 WC hundred look so easy. Did you know Babar has a higher average and strike rate than Punter? You know what that means right? :ROFLMAO:

Rana said:
Pakistan have had too many years of turbulence, politics and infighting as soon as Inzimam stepped away and then you had a slow crawl in of players like Misbah, whilst a drama queen like Hafeez was getting louder and louder with his stuck up attitude! Shoaib Malik as usual doing his “cloak and dagger” politics whilst falling out with everyone. Yousuf continuously living in a delusion of royalty within his head and Shahid Afridi with his menopause tantrums that he would randomly throw here and there.

All of these chawwals (although good cricketers) were kept in line during the Inzimam+Woolmer era! They were all let loose like a bunch of wild, toxic pendus and it basically ruined what could have been a great era for Pakistan cricket because the players were still top quality as they had fine batsmen and top class fast bowlers.

YK the proper no.3 ODI batter was lost in this period.
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Raja Ishtiaq said:
Relevance of the bolded?
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You claimed that "he looked lost out there" but that couldn't be further from the truth if you go by what he actually accomplished.

Raja Ishtiaq said:
One century in world cup is the entirety of your stand out YK knocks?

Think you need to take your advice as per the last sentence.
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Babar's best ODI innings is the 2019 World Cup hundred against New Zealand. I'm sure you would agree. Here's the thing, I can name multiple innings from Younis Khan that eclipse this.

So him "looking lost" should belong to the trash can. You have no idea what you're talking about.
 
Rana said:
He was not a “terrible” ODI player. You don’t have a clue what you are talking about. Let it go. Even with an average of 31 during the era he played in, he is a superior batsman to Rizwan and Misbah in One Day cricket. His skills were far superior to both.
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Mahela Jayawardene was seen as a solid ODI batsman, and his numbers line up almost identically with Younis Khan’s. As you rightly pointed out, they haven’t got the slightest clue.
 
TheSultan said:
10k runs at over 50 average. What else do you want?
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acha so we are talking about averages here? Have you bothered checking YK’s stats in white ball vs Babar’s stats in white ball?

YK was such a bad white ball player then he would struggle to get into Pakistan’s B team today.
 
gazza619 said:
acha so we are talking about averages here? Have you bothered checking YK’s stats in white ball vs Babar’s stats in white ball?

YK was such a bad white ball player then he would struggle to get into Pakistan’s B team today.
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If you’d read my post I’ve already addressed the babar average. If you can’t read properly or pretend you can’t, don’t waste my time.

This is not an auntie meeting. Answer quick or be gone
 
@Rana

This reminds me of when Major claimed "Misbah > Inzy in ODIs" purely on the basis of a higher average, forcing Mamoon to open a thread just to correct him.

Major continued to insist that Misbah was superior to Inzy, only to be shut down by the OP, who highlighted that he wasn’t just behind Inzy and MoYo, but also Younis Khan. The breakdown exposed how averages and strike rates vary across eras.

Like Major, these simpletons are detached from reality, either because they didn’t watch enough cricket in the 2000s, never understood that era, or are simply agenda-driven posters. My question to you is, which do you think it is?
 
topspin said:
@Rana

This reminds me of when Major claimed "Misbah > Inzy in ODIs" purely on the basis of a higher average, forcing Mamoon to open a thread just to correct him.

Major continued to insist that Misbah was superior to Inzy, only to be shut down by the OP, who highlighted that he wasn’t just behind Inzy and MoYo, but also Younis Khan. The breakdown exposed how averages and strike rates vary across eras.

Like Major, these simpletons are detached from reality, either because they didn’t watch enough cricket in the 2000s, never understood that era, or are simply agenda-driven posters. My question to you is, which do you think it is?
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I suggest you focus on discussion rather than using <<<>>><<<>>><<<>>vs>>>>>>vs<<>>>.
 
READ THE TITLE AGAIN BEFORE YOU POST HERE... TAKE YOUR USELESS, IRRELEVANT POSTS SOMEWHERE ELSE...
 
gazza619 said:
I suggest you focus on discussion rather than using <<<>>><<<>>><<<>>vs>>>>>>vs<<>>>.
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Bro I can't think of any cricketer that they haven't compared to Babar/Rizwan and Misbah.

These guys are absolutely clueless about Pakistan cricket. These English fans are just licking their wounds after the thumping in the first Ashes test. Lashing out at RizBar is the only way they know how to cope
 
YK was a terrible Odi player, no two ways about it.

Nostalgia merchants are forgetting the amount of times that guy let down Pakistan especially in tournaments.

Dravid averages nearly 40 with str rate of 70 in Odis and 11k runs, we still don’t call him a world class Odi player, Pakistani batting standards are just too low.
 
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