Mohammad Yousuf "I've heard that Babar Azam was crying after the defeat to Afghanistan"

[ArabKnight]

I don't know why people don't get it, that Abrar is in the reserves, he cannot play unless there is a medical emergency for a player in the 15 player main squad. Only ones we haven't tried are Agha and Wasim, and we all know how Wasim is doing these days.

I was implying he should’ve been included in the XI from the start, not the reserves.

 

[Cryin Out Loud]

I have very little sympathy. His tears would have had more meaning had he cried (ie prepared, selected, strategised) well on the months leading up to the Afghanistan game.

This is just typical subcontinental drama to create pathos and sympathy to an emotional audience - oh look he cried, bechara.

Cry me a river.

 

[deltexas]

Why does Yousuf or insiders have to leak everything to the public? Can't a grown man cry in peace without Yousuf telling the whole world that he cried - this is simply pathetic. Fine, Criticize babar for his cricketing performance but to put his personal moments out there to the world is just not on.. and more so by that characterless person Yousuf who had fights with quite a few Pak players..

As a person babar is a good and humble guy...these jealous toxic ex players want to hurt him and his team and can't hide their glee when the team doesn't perform..Feel sorry for babar as he's being singled out. It's a collective failure including the coach players backroom staff , PCB management etc..even ricky Ponting cant make these 11 win a WC..

 

[deltexas]

Also did Yousuf cry in 1999 when pak was thrashed by aus in the final? If not why? Did he not care about the defeat- more an abject surrender. Did he reveal any dressing room stories from that day? Or the fairly corroborated knowledge that some team members went clubbing the day before the final? Yousuf is a pathetic man..

 

[ArabKnight]

I have very little sympathy. His tears would have had more meaning had he cried (ie prepared, selected, strategised) well on the months leading up to the Afghanistan game.

This is just typical subcontinental drama to create pathos and sympathy to an emotional audience - oh look he cried, bechara.

Cry me a river.

It’s like how a baby is crying out loud for attention & sympathy. 100%

 

[Major]

Dude, you are on record here saying that this is pretty much the best team in Pakistan and now you're saying that Abrar and Saim Ayub were missing.

The only reason you are saying this now is because Misbah wanted them .

I also said that shadab and nawaz cant spin and i was for usama mir being part of the playing 11.

Point is, babar should had ignored the advice of the ex cricketers in the meeting. Now look who got proven right and who got proven wrong.

Also i have been critisizing babar for creating the situation where abrar couldnt get selected because during the england t20 series he had to play his friend.

But as usual, you will read half of the stuff

 

[CerebralPatriot]

Want to feel bad for the guy but really can’t

These tears are the consequences of 4 consecutive years of political meddling in order to rid the name of a great captain from the history books

We had everything before and it was all running well. Babar should have just refused to part take in Ramiz and Misbah’s coup against Sarfraz and did what he does best, bat.

Unfortunately his ego was too big, he thought he could become our next Dhoni. Well turns out he was more like Misbah 2.0.

Now the consequences are here. The tears are out and retribution is coming

 

[ArabKnight]

While I have been advocating for Abrar Ahmed’s selection & induction into the playing XI before the Pakistan WC squad was even announced!!! I bumped his thread whose last post was 3 months ago. Mind you that this man has not played any LOI matches in his career. So it was a bold and intelligent strategic post by me.

This this post right here:

Are we going to go with him in the WC?

He’s a magician spinner.

The World Cup is in India again.

Guess who was the best bowler of Pakistan the last time we played WC in India? It was Saeed Ajmal.

We need Abrar Ahmed and unleash him on the teams. He’s a wildcard that no team will be able to read if he bowls good.

Pakistan is a sorry team. We need this bowler. Babar is a timid defensive captain that bowls spinners in the middle. We got no good spinners. Need him in the middle.

India is a spin nation.

This is an example that when you are on the HAQ, you don’t have to dance & do mental gymnastics to prove yourself right. Your words & actions speak for themselves.

 

[Mahee]

this is utter nonsense....why should anybody cry for this...remember nobody cares 50 over format....T20 is extremely popular worldwide and we all know Pakistan is good in T20s...My suggestion to PCB and players is just forget about 50 over and Test formats....just don't play them and stick to T20 where you're good at.

 

[JattMaula]

this is utter nonsense....why should anybody cry for this...remember nobody cares 50 over format....T20 is extremely popular worldwide and we all know Pakistan is good in T20s...My suggestion to PCB and players is just forget about 50 over and Test formats....just don't play them and stick to T20 where you're good at.

PCB has already moved in that direction.. And it's the right approach for a team with limited resources.

Dutch also don't want test status. Same reason. Some Irish cricket folk also regret getting test status. PCB is same imo.

 

[Vikram1989]

It’s not hard to get a medical certificate.

I think it will be verified by icc medical team and there after a decision will be made. If pak gets caught it will be icing on the cake of this disastrous world cup.

 

[mominsaigol]

I somehow did not notice any big/major changes to players becoming more fat. I guess I did not notice things as much. I wonder if anyone has before+after pictures to share.

Fat shaming is bad BUT if you are getting paid to be a fit athlete to represent your nation and you let yourselves go then it is absolutely fair game.

Bro just look at haris Rauf in his new picture lol,

Also fat shaming is bad, bit not when you're representing your whole country

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Gotta feel for Bobby. He's not the greatest tactician.

But fans wanted him to be Mike Brearley in captaincy and peak Virat Kohli while batting.

Bobby is not born as genetically gifted as Indian batters nor as intelligent as Dhoni nor does he have the courage and power of a Rohit Sharma.

Nor does he have bowlers like Bumrah, Shami, Siraj Kuldeep at his disposal.

He has village level spinners and a village level enforcer like Haris Rauf who can't hit a line and length even if his life depended on it.

How can you expect him to win a World Cup with all that

He himself is a nice, boring guy who can stat pad his way to tons like peak Hashim Amla and cannot win matches on his own

The problem is when he tried to live up to expectations of some very delusional fans instead of trying to be the best version of himself .


Give him the personnel that more talented sides possess and this team would be in a much better place.

You can't perform miracles when half the squad is full of mediocre talentless cricketers.

 

[mominsaigol]

Being slow is good if you can spin. Slow and spinning is a nightmare for batsmen to face because they can't leverage the pace.

But if it doesn't spin, then slow is suicide.

 

[Major]

Gotta feel for Bobby. He's not the greatest tactician.

But fans wanted him to be Mike Brearley in captaincy and peak Virat Kohli while batting.

Bobby is not born as genetically gifted as Indian batters nor as intelligent as Dhoni nor does he have the courage and power of a Rohit Sharma.

Nor does he have bowlers like Bumrah, Shami, Siraj Kuldeep at his disposal.

He has village level spinners and a village level enforcer like Haris Rauf who can't hit a line and length even if his life depended on it.

How can you expect him to win a World Cup with all that

He himself is a nice, boring guy who can stat pad his way to tons like peak Hashim Amla and cannot win matches on his own

The problem is when he tried to live up to expectations of some very delusional fans instead of trying to be the best version of himself .


Give him the personnel that more talented sides possess and this team would be in a much better place.

You can't perform miracles when half the squad is full of mediocre talentless cricketers.

i get it you took this as an oppurtunity to praise your Indian players.

Thing is, Babar is as dumb as a captain as Tendulkar was

 

[Major]

Being slow is good if you can spin. Slow and spinning is a nightmare for batsmen to face because they can't leverage the pace.

But if it doesn't spin, then slow is suicide.

I will still take him due to his mystery factor.

The issue with being slow is that in a series you will lose out. But in a tournament you have advantage cause everyone plays you once.

His googly is still better than what Shadab has bee throwing out

 

[Nikhil_cric]

i get it you took this as an oppurtunity to praise your Indian players.

Thing is, Babar is as dumb as a captain as Tendulkar was

Tendulkar was a much smarter man than Bobby, unfortunately. Just didn't have the support of the board or senior players. But Bobby is not even a fourth of the batsman SRT was to be fair

 

[Kianig89]

Gotta feel for Bobby. He's not the greatest tactician.

But fans wanted him to be Mike Brearley in captaincy and peak Virat Kohli while batting.

Bobby is not born as genetically gifted as Indian batters nor as intelligent as Dhoni nor does he have the courage and power of a Rohit Sharma.

Nor does he have bowlers like Bumrah, Shami, Siraj Kuldeep at his disposal.

He has village level spinners and a village level enforcer like Haris Rauf who can't hit a line and length even if his life depended on it.

How can you expect him to win a World Cup with all that

He himself is a nice, boring guy who can stat pad his way to tons like peak Hashim Amla and cannot win matches on his own

The problem is when he tried to live up to expectations of some very delusional fans instead of trying to be the best version of himself .


Give him the personnel that more talented sides possess and this team would be in a much better place.

You can't perform miracles when half the squad is full of mediocre talentless cricketers.

the last two lines are naked truth , Pakistan did not have quality players case closed.

 

[Major]

Tendulkar was a much smarter man than Bobby, unfortunately. Just didn't have the support of the board or senior players. But Bobby is not even a fourth of the batsman SRT was to be fair

who is even talking about batsmanship? Everyone is discussing captaincy here.

How is Tendulkar any smarter when he was no different as a captain.

oh I see, cause tendu is an Indian, and you have to give him the edge someway.

 

[mominsaigol]

There certainly was moments of fortune in 1992 and 2017. But overall, they played much better cricket. 2022 WT20 side won less than 60% of their matches.

Have you noticed how toxic Misbah's undercover and open book fans are here when it comes to the 2017 success? They say anything to discredit it.

I remember arguing with one person who had like 32 comments only amd said he wanted an open discourse with me about misbah vs sarfraz who's the better captain.

His argument was sarfraz victory was a fluke of flukes.

I asked him, okay what if the entire CT was played, same players, same situation but misbah was captain.

He said then it wouldn't be a fluke because misbah is brave

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Had to mention 6 indians in a thread unrelated to india

Replace with names of Saffer/Aussie cricketers if you wish .

Point stands.

 

[mominsaigol]

Very good point about the Afghanistan t20 series.

We are sold this dream that babar and Riz are the greatest partnership in history.

Then when another new opening pair are given a chance and take a couple of matches to get going, they say haha I told you! Surely you didn’t expect them to become Goats in their first game did you.

What happens after that, neither of them get much a look in from that point.

I mean these guys are so insecure that babar and Riz last minute said “we don’t want to rest” and tried to railroad their way in to that team vs Afghanistan in that series

Even that logic didn't make sense. Saim dismantled an entire All star afg team in a way babar who's played 100+ matched can't even dream of doing. . They just pretended as if the 3rd t20 doesn't exist and focused on the first 2. Lol.

 

[Major]

Even that logic didn't make sense. Saim dismantled an entire All star afg team in a way babar who's played 100+ matched can't even dream of doing. . They just pretended as if the 3rd t20 doesn't exist and focused on the first 2. Lol.

you cant bash Babar the captain. Just like how Saim in his early days has done pretty decent, Babar in his early days took Steyn apart and Steyn was like that balla for Pakistan that we couldn't defeat.

Babar's captaincy is an issue, but his batting is a non issue really. The guy can score 45-50 runs and still get bashed in batting cause his caliber is very high

 

[mominsaigol]

you cant bash Babar the captain. Just like how Saim in his early days has done pretty decent, Babar in his early days took Steyn apart and Steyn was like that balla for Pakistan that we couldn't defeat.

Babar's captaincy is an issue, but his batting is a non issue really. The guy can score 45-50 runs and still get bashed in batting cause his caliber is very high

Steyn was the end of his rope given how he did in 2015 wc but fair point.

But that's not what im trying to say. Babar is a class batsmen but mickey told him he's born to bat at 3 in all formats. He should have sucked it up and played at no 3.

Reason he's playing at opening is because it's his comfort zone. In opening t20 you can take a bit of time before accelerating. It's also the easiest position to get a t20 century and babar has always been milestone obessesed with the "The King Stands Tall Yet Again" drama.

An all star player especially one who is ranked no 1 and is supposedly superior to ATG's like kohli and rohit should be able to get out of his comfort zone especially if one of the criticisms about him is that he can't take the game away due to his inability to dominate the bowling.

Take rohit for example. He was mocked in the middle order for being clueless against swing and just a horrible slow tuk tuk striker. Rohit gets out of his comfort zone by opening where it swings the most and in the past 1000 pp 1 balls he's hit 38 sixes where as Pakistan combined have hit 2.

Kohli Im 2012 was considered a bunny against inswing and outswing, so much so thay after Pakistan series India was considering maybe bringing him at no 4 because when openers fall early he can't play swing. What does kphli do? Practise in nets so much that an entire video documentary about how he overcame his swing weakness is made about him. That's why when even Peak shaheen was bullying India with that killer Inswing, Kohli was the only one who kept dominating and kept treating Pakistan like a joke.

Babar needs to get out of bi's comfort zone, him promoting himself just sends a bad message In general

 

[ArabKnight]

I think it will be verified by icc medical team and there after a decision will be made. If pak gets caught it will be icing on the cake of this disastrous world cup.

It’s a risk I’m willing to take honestly. If it doesn’t work, I would play with 10 players, no spinner.

 

[Ali Active]

Why is babar crying now imo he completely deserves it
he was completely power hungry and stubborn he only picked the squad of his choice. said he won’t take anyone else now why u crying??
Pcb Gave dumbest guy so much power . he deserves to cry
whole nation has cried. because of one guy’s stubbornness

 

[Mainul]

Why are players crying? Pakistan is still not out of WC. Normally I have seen players crying when they crash out of tournament.

Yes, it depends on other teams, but still.

Their body language looks terrible. I don't think they believe that they can still go into semis.

 

[mominsaigol]

you cant bash Babar the captain. Just like how Saim in his early days has done pretty decent, Babar in his early days took Steyn apart and Steyn was like that balla for Pakistan that we couldn't defeat.

Babar's captaincy is an issue, but his batting is a non issue really. The guy can score 45-50 runs and still get bashed in batting cause his caliber is very high

Gonna comment 2x, cause I missed your 2nd point.

Babar's caliber is not High. Its as high as his fraud ranking.

Babar is a good batsmen, he's a very very good batsmen, but people are living on cloud 9 pertaining Babar.

Against minnow bowling, Babar is the best at bullying, even superior to chacha at minnow bashing. Against quality bowling every player in our squad is clueless except Babar who can atleast hang in their and do alright.

The only person who was superior to Babar in our squad was fakhar when in form, cause fakhar stats wise may not seem as consistent as Babar but that's cause he plays for the team, fakhar has played knocks against quality bowling like the ct 2017 India knock or the 194 sa knock, Babar can't dream of ever playing such knocks.

And when fakhar was in form and faced a minnow like Zimbabwe then a 200 or 180 score against d string nz was on.

Babar does not have a high caliber. He is an okay batsmen. Its just everyone loves mediocrity.

It's just not our bowling that is bad in this tournament. Our batting is beyond terrible. But because the bowling and fielding is even more horrendous, fans are holding on to batting as a hope mechanism. Everyone is spineless except chacha and fakhar. But fakhar is out of form, and chacha is medicore. Chacha is a minnow basher, but to his credit he atleast plays for the team and gives it his all and is the only team member who has a thick skin unlike Mr no 1 who's crying golden rupenzel tears in the locker room.

 

[Mamoon]

Want to feel bad for the guy but really can’t

These tears are the consequences of 4 consecutive years of political meddling in order to rid the name of a great captain from the history books

We had everything before and it was all running well. Babar should have just refused to part take in Ramiz and Misbah’s coup against Sarfraz and did what he does best, bat.

Unfortunately his ego was too big, he thought he could become our next Dhoni. Well turns out he was more like Misbah 2.0.

Now the consequences are here. The tears are out and retribution is coming

What was running well? Your tap water?

Because if you are talking about Pakistan’s performances under Sarfaraz, they were the opposite of “running well”

Starting with the 2018 Asia Cup humiliation where Pakistan got owned by India (twice) and Bangladesh after a lot of trash-talk,

Pakistan lost 24 of its last 31 ODIs including a 8 match losing streak against the top 6 sides in 2018.

The World Cup 2019 was nothing to write home about either with Pakistan getting dumped in the group stage with the third worst NRR among all teams.

In Test cricket, Pakistan lost back to back series in the UAE and also got blanked in South Africa.

In T20Is, Pakistan was bashing B and C teams because in 2018-19, teams were focused on ODIs as they were preparing for the World Cup.

As soon as Sarfaraz faced South Africa and England with their main players available, he lost a T20I series to both teams.

Starting from January 2018 to July 2019, Pakistan cricket was in complete shambles and playing like a minnow.

15 month of mediocrity is more than enough to sack the captain irrespective of the CT win in 2017.

At an individual level, during this period, Sarfaraz had the following performances:

Tests: 11
Batting average: 24
50+ scores: 2

ODIs: 34
Batting average: 32
50+ scores: 2

T20Is: 20
Batting average: 32
50+ scores: 1 (vs Scotland)

Not only was the team in shambles in terms of results, Sarfaraz himself was in complete shambles as an individual player.

How do you expect a captain to keep his job when the team is getting humiliated left, right and center while he himself has just 5 50+ scores in 65 matches across formats?

Misbah made the right call by booting him out and ending his misery. It wasn’t politics. It was justice. It was accountability.

Just because things didn’t work out afterwards doesn’t mean it was a bad decision and it doesn’t mean that we should now revise history.

Sarfaraz had to be kicked out of the team. It was the only solution at the time. His succession plan could have been handled in a much more refined way but getting rid of his was 100% the correct decision.

 

[Sunzi]

Not nice to see this and I dont personally want to vilify him. He is one of the few substantiated stars that we have. I feel for him.

There is something heartening about hearing this though because I want to know that the players representing the nation feel what I feel at the moment.

I hope, however, that this doesn't result in sympathisers overlooking a shambolic Asia Cup and World Cup.

 

[CerebralPatriot]

Oh for gods sake the anti Sarfraz brigade is back

Pakistan lost 24 of its last 31 ODIs including a 8 match losing streak against the top 6 sides in 2018.

The World Cup 2019 was nothing to write home about either with Pakistan getting dumped in the group stage with the third worst NRR among all teams.

Your the one who is always saying the results of bi-laterals don't matter so why are you bringing this up as a counter argument against Sarfraz's captaincy. Anyway's from those 24 games lost, 5 were against Australia playing our B team. If anything that goes to show that Sarfraz was man enough to rest a series or two and test out new blood, something which our current captain will never do

I've repeated this same point regarding the 2019 world cup for years, we should have made the semi's the only thing that went against us was luck. Our game vs Sri Lanka was rained out, England lost 2 out of 2 games vs Ind and Nz and even 1 loss would have had us in the semis. Fact is under Sarfraz we were able to beat the two world cup finalists and that in itself is a big achievement

In Test cricket, Pakistan lost back to back series in the UAE and also got blanked in South Africa

All of our captain have been blanked in South Africa so I wouldn't blame him for that. Anyhow your forgetting that we beat Australia at home (something else Babar couldn't achieve) and we also drew a series with England away, the same England team that beat India 4-1. Again that by itself just shows what a leader he was

In T20Is, Pakistan was bashing B and C teams because in 2018-19, teams were focused on ODIs as they were preparing for the World Cup.

A win is a win and under Sarfraz we had won 13 consecutive T20 games. Doesn't matter if it's vs A, B or Z teams, winning 13 games in a row is incredible. Anyway the first game we lost after that streak didn't even occur under Sarfraz's captaincy so once again your being intellectually dishonest

Tests: 11
Batting average: 24
50+ scores: 2

ODIs: 34
Batting average: 32
50+ scores: 2

T20Is: 20
Batting average: 32
50+ scores: 1 (vs Scotland)

An average of 32 batting at 6 in ODIs and T20s is good. His average of 24 came from the fact that he was always forced to martial the tail and whenever he did get the opportunity to bat with the top order he would score plenty (see his innings in the 2nd test vs Australia)

Misbah made the right call by booting him out and ending his misery. It wasn’t politics. It was justice. It was accountability.

Joke of the century. Misbah always held a grudge against Sarfraz. That was clear in the 2015 world cup where he choose an unfit and washed up Jamshed over Sarfraz to open and when he was forced to select Sarfraz, he received a rude awakening. Sarfraz was our match winner in that tournament just as his captaincy was our match winner in the 17 CT

 

[Mamoon]

Oh for gods sake the anti Sarfraz brigade is back


Your the one who is always saying the results of bi-laterals don't matter so why are you bringing this up as a counter argument against Sarfraz's captaincy. Anyway's from those 24 games lost, 5 were against Australia playing our B team. If anything that goes to show that Sarfraz was man enough to rest a series or two and test out new blood, something which our current captain will never do

Results against B and C sides don't matter because it doesn't reflect the actual capability of the team, but a bilateral series a against a full-strength top team is the most reliable litmus test.

One-off upsets can take place in tournaments, but over the course of a series, the stronger team will almost always prevail. After winning the CT and blanking a hapless Sri Lanka 5-0 in the UAE, Sarfaraz's Pakistan showed its true colors in 2018-2019 and got exposed big time once they started playing series against full-strength opposition in ODI cricket.

In January 2018, Pakistan went to NZ for a 5 match ODI series and lost 5-0 against a full-strength NZ. In September 2018, Pakistan got humiliated by India twice and Bangladesh in the Asia Cup in the UAE.

Prior to the World Cup, Pakistan lost the ODI series vs England 4-0 and the only reason they didn't get whitewashed is because one of the matches was rained off.

Speaking of being a man enough to rest and test new blood, Sarfaraz's replacement against Australia in the ODI series (Rizwan) scored 2 hundreds in 5 games, something Sarfaraz couldn't achieve for years. He was so insecure and felt so threatened by Rizwan that Rizwan couldn't even get into the 15 man squad for the World Cup.

Sarfraz was completely out of sorts when Rizwan grabbed his chance and scored 2 hundreds against Australia, which meant that Sarfaraz made sure that Rizwan stays out of the picture so that he is not displaced. However, life comes at you fast and after the World Cup, Mickey was not there anymore to protect him and Misbah made the right call by not only sacking Sarfaraz as captain but also by replacing him with Rizwan.

I don't like Rizwan, I don't like his antics and all the fake injuries etc., but there is no doubt that he is a far better WK batsman than Sarfaraz ever was especially in white ball cricket.

I've repeated this same point regarding the 2019 world cup for years, we should have made the semi's the only thing that went against us was luck. Our game vs Sri Lanka was rained out, England lost 2 out of 2 games vs Ind and Nz and even 1 loss would have had us in the semis. Fact is under Sarfraz we were able to beat the two world cup finalists and that in itself is a big achievement

Not luck but Pakistan's mediocrity went against Pakistan. Pakistan had one foot out of the door after match 1 when it got bundled for 103 against the West Indies. That thrashing nuked the NRR and Pakistan was playing catch up since that game. This happened after Pakistan were given the luxury of playing a 5 match ODI series vs England in England immediately before the World Cup. They had all the time in the world to prepare and get acclimatized to the conditions and this is what they produced in the opening game.

Furthermore, please don't give me that nonsense excuse that the Sri Lanka match was washed out and we would have beaten them by a million runs or 50 wickets and qualified for the semifinals. If Pakistan and Sri Lanka could beat England, if Bangladesh could beat South Africa, if West Indies could steamroll Pakistan and if Afghanistan could push India and Pakistan to the last ball, Sri Lanka could have also beaten Pakistan.

Besides, the India vs New Zealand match was also washed out and New Zealand beat India twice in the World Cup - warm up and semifinal. It is possible that they could have also beaten them in the group match which would have eliminated Pakistan regardless of the outcome of Pakistan vs Sri Lanka.

Pakistan did not deserve to qualify for the semifinals based on the matches that actually took place. Pakistan had 8 completed matches and their fate was in their hands but they weren't good enough. No one forced them to lose to India and Australia. Where was Sarfaraz's great captaincy when Rohit Sharma was going bonkers and he was yawning with his belly sticking out?

And so what if Pakistan beat both finalists? Do you want ICC to present a special "Beat Both Finalists" trophy to Sarfaraz? It is not an achievement at all, especially when Pakistan got hammered by a team that finished second last (West Indies) and had to rely on umpire blunders to scrape past the team that finished last (Afghanistan).

West Indies only won 2 out of 9 matches and one of them came against the great captain Sarfaraz.

Beating England and New Zealand was an 'achievement' but what would you call this?

Pakistan 105 all out (21.4 overs)
West Indies 108/3 (13.4 overs)

All of our captain have been blanked in South Africa so I wouldn't blame him for that. Anyhow your forgetting that we beat Australia at home (something else Babar couldn't achieve) and we also drew a series with England away, the same England team that beat India 4-1. Again that by itself just shows what a leader he was

If Sarfaraz was that great a captain, how come he couldn't do anything different or anything better compared to the previous captains in South Africa?

I'm not forgetting that Pakistan beat Australia 1-0 in the 2018 UAE Test series. What you are forgetting - or choosing to forget - is that that series was playing on turning tracks unlike the highways that were dished out to Australia in 2022. You can't compare the two series and besides, beating Australia in a home series doesn't make up for losing at home to Sri Lanka and New Zealand. Winning home Test series is the minimum requirement for captain who is hailed as some great and legendary leader by his delusional fans.

Also, how can you compare a 2 match Test series with a 5 match Test series? Pakistan drew with England only because it was a 2 match series not 3, 4 or 5. Considering how awful Sarfaraz's captaincy was in Tests, there is no way he would have avoided a defeat in England.

A win is a win and under Sarfraz we had won 13 consecutive T20 games. Doesn't matter if it's vs A, B or Z teams, winning 13 games in a row is incredible. Anyway the first game we lost after that streak didn't even occur under Sarfraz's captaincy so once again your being intellectually dishonest

No, a win is not a win. Context matters.

This is the same arrogance and false sense of achievement that we saw with Babar, the current Pakistan team and their delusional fans. Number 1 ranking this and that, best fast bowling this and that. All of that blew in their faces once they started playing against full-strength sides.

Sarfaraz had the same story in T20Is. He kept beating B and C sides in series and he was lucky there was no T20 World Cup in that period otherwise he and his team would have been exposed just like Babar and his team got exposed.

An average of 32 batting at 6 in ODIs and T20s is good. His average of 24 came from the fact that he was always forced to martial the tail and whenever he did get the opportunity to bat with the top order he would score plenty (see his innings in the 2nd test vs Australia)

He wasn't marshalling the tail; the tail was marshalling him. He hid behind tailenders like Hassan, Amir and Wahab on numerous occasions because he didn't have the confidence to bat above them. If you have more faith in your bowlers to slog quick runs at the death than you have in yourself, should you really be in the team? Definitely not.

Sarfaraz didn't hide in the lower-order because he was selfless; he hid because he wanted to protect himself. If he was selfless, Rizwan would have made the World Cup squad after his performance against Australia in the ODI series two months prior to the World Cup.

Joke of the century.

Joke of the century is claiming that Sarfaraz was a great captain, his team was performing really well and sacking him was a bad decision.

 

[Snowflake]

This is something that Babar does after every game.....

Well Babar, you had a staff that advised you to go with Abrar, Saim Ayub. You did not listen...

If he cant take it and has to cry than maybe just resign. Like you had played previous ICC events, didnt you find out that you suck by than?

Do we know for sure that Saim Ayub was recommended but turned down by Babar?

 

[sweep_shot]

Pakistan should move away from Babar era right after the World Cup.

Babar should play entirely as a batter.

 

[Major]

Do we know for sure that Saim Ayub was recommended but turned down by Babar?

Yes, misbah and hafeez have confirmed this.

 

[Saj]

If South Africa bat first tomorrow, a lot of Pakistani cricket followers could be crying tomorrow!

 

[Mockingbird]

If South Africa bat first tomorrow, a lot of Pakistani cricket followers could be crying tomorrow!

Not too sure about that, batting under lights is much easier in Chennai.

 

[emranabbas]

If South Africa bat first tomorrow, a lot of Pakistani cricket followers could be crying tomorrow!

Batting first or second target should be not to take Temba Bavuma's wicket

 

[hassan918]

Mickey Arthur during the press conference after South Africa loss.

[Reporter:]

When your team plays as competitively as they did tonight, and they've lost the three previous games, and they give it everything, and they still go down, how do you get them off the floor?

[Mickey Arthur:]

Yeah look, tonight is a totally different feeling in that dressing room to the Afghanistan game. The Afghanistan game was - we were average in all departments. Tonight, we were okay with the bat, I thought we were very good with the ball. And tonight, I'm really proud of those [players] because they fought right to the bitter end.

We were below par with the bat, I think. As I said, I thought 300 was the par score - But our bowlers had given us a real chance there and they've given it everything. It's a really disappointed dressing room and our players I know we can be proud of tonight because they've left everything, everything on the ground. They've given it their best shot. And that's all you can ask.

 

[Snowflake]

Yes, misbah and hafeez have confirmed this.

Really getting difficult to support Babar as skipper

 

[MenInG]

Really getting difficult to support Babar as skipper

Think he will now be removed or resign.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Incase Pakistan qualifies for semis, will people keep Babar as the skipper or will the narrative remain the same??

 

[mominsaigol]

Misbah is such an oddball for me.

If he admits to certain things such as wanting an aggressive opener in saim ayub at the top,

Why doesn't misbah ever implement such changes when he had the power to do so all those years ago?

 

[pakistani pride]

I saw Babar laughing and exchanging shirts with a player from Afghanistan, he is there as a tourist. Batting wise 0 impact.
What we all know is that the Afghanistan player did after winning the MOM award.

All drama.

 

[BouncerGuy]

I saw Babar laughing and exchanging shirts with a player from Afghanistan, he is there as a tourist. Batting wise 0 impact.
What we all know is that the Afghanistan player did after winning the MOM award.

All drama.

There is nothing wrong in exchanging shirts. It is not a thing that you don't care about your team and all. It is more of a respect factor. You see these type of things in other sports as well.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Just witnessed Yousuf in a tv debate where he was going on and on about why he was removed from team in 2007

The anchor realized that Yousuf was trying to take the decision to a different direction and tried to divert to the point but Yousuf kept on talking about himself.

Eventually Yousuf just said on air that please bring anchors who understand the game.

Don’t know who was rude here the anchor or Yousuf but didn’t make for good TV. Very awkward and cringeworthy stuff

 

[Bhaijaan]

Throwing tantrums on live TV in this age. Can’t imagine what a liability he must have been as a senior player.

@Mamoon @Rana

 

[Rana]

Throwing tantrums on live TV in this age. Can’t imagine what a liability he must have been as a senior player.

@Mamoon @Rana

He was an extremely difficult person to handle as a player. Isn’t the type that openly dissents, but a very shifty guy behind everyone’s back

 

[VForVendetta]

He was an extremely difficult person to handle as a player. Isn’t the type that openly dissents, but a very shifty guy behind everyone’s back

The kind of guy who holds a grudge against you long after your death. Pure class as a batsman unfortunately lacked the grace as human being.

 

[mominsaigol]

I met Mohammad yousaf irl once. Dude was a very chill guy. Met me, talked to me, and unlike shahid afridi who I also met, Afridi just did some signings and basically ignored everything, yousaf had a good conversation with me before signing autograph and parting. It felt warm and comforting.

So I'm shocked that people are claiming he's a grudges type of guy

 

[Rana]

He was an extremely difficult person to handle as a player. Isn’t the type that openly dissents, but a very shifty guy behind everyone’s back

Exactly. Would never trust this guy at face value

 

[mominsaigol]

Exactly. Would never trust this guy at face value

Bro, did you just reply and agree with yourself?

 

[Rana]

He will think that he did well, and will be back into power as soon as PTI returns with Ramiz Raja as chairman

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Rahmanullah Gurbaz revealed that he could empathise with Babar upon seeing his emotions after requesting him for his bat after the game. Speaking to Pakistani influencer Momin Saqib, Gurbaz said:

“That moment I will never forget about Babar. We beat Pakistan, and then I asked for his bat. Once he brought the bat, he was so disappointed and I can feel as a player."

“I can feel that you know, when you lost the game and then this, especially in this kind of situation. He was under so much pressure. I remember that I also felt emotional, he is one of the best players, one of the best captains, that much stress."

“Trust me, I was trying to not say this in front of the camera, but I want to say that he was about to cry. He was so disappointed, I have never seen any player like that. Everyone was against him, but I salute Babar bhai, he was so strong, he just kept going, he never gave up. I can say, he is one of the best.”

Gurbaz had also tweeted a picture with Babar a few days after being gifted with the bat with the caption: “Wonderful gift by a wonderful player and human being. Truly gentleman. Chin up, stay strong and keep shining.”